Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Can’t log in? Having a problem with the Forums? Have a question about how something works? Get support here.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI
MTFCA Number: 28762
MTFCI Number: 22402

Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by DHort » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:21 am

I click on attachments, and add file. The photo shows up, but there is a yellow triangle under status. It tells me that it does not know the dimensions of the file. Everything is good on the desktop and I can transmit the file with no problems. What is this software looking for? This is a frequent occurance. Thank you.

User avatar

Tbird
Posts: 1086
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:51 pm
First Name: Mike
Last Name: Bird
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1912 Delivery Car
Location: Goshen IN

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Tbird » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:27 am

It sounds like perhaps some of your photos might be in a portrait view. If the photo is taken in portrait view you need to reorient the photo to landscape to upload it.

User avatar

CudaMan
Posts: 2385
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:17 pm
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Strange
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1924 Cut Off Touring (now a pickup)
Location: Hillsboro, MO
MTFCA Number: 30944
MTFCI Number: 23667
Board Member Since: 2013

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by CudaMan » Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:35 am

Let me try to drag and drop a portrait view pic - seems to have worked for me. :)

Maybe portrait only works if you drag and drop?
Attachments
IMG_7588.JPG
Mark Strange
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 6463
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:17 am

The few times I've received the dreaded yellow triangle it had to do with excessive image size. In those instances it took minimal resizing to post the picture.

IMG_4096.JPG
This photo posts full size, as they usually do for me. I don't understand why a few of the same size are rejected as too big.

Screen Shot 2020-09-13 at 10.03.07 AM.png
The scenery/portrait thing is new to me. I don't see anything about it here.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


ModelTWoods
Posts: 1049
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:53 am
First Name: Terry
Last Name: Woods
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1927 Model T coupe, 1926 4 door sedan
Location: Cibolo (San Antonio), TX
MTFCI Number: 20180

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by ModelTWoods » Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:07 pm

EVERY photo that I take with my cell phone, without exception, is way to big to down load, I, as a matter of routine, take the photo to "paint" and reduce it in size 50%, before trying to post on the Forum.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 6463
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Steve Jelf » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:37 pm

Terry, what are the dimensions and file size of your original photos? I don't have a solution, just curious.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI
MTFCA Number: 28762
MTFCI Number: 22402

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by DHort » Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:32 pm

Mine is 4096 x 3072 pixels. 3.27MB in size

User avatar

ChrisB
Posts: 363
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2019 1:38 pm
First Name: Chris
Last Name: Brancaccio
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1909 Roadster 1915 Coupelet 1923 Coupe 1926 Touring
Location: Calgary AB
MTFCA Number: 443
MTFCA Life Member: YES
MTFCI Number: 23136
Board Member Since: 2005
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by ChrisB » Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:48 pm

Picture size should not be a problem, the maximum size is over 20 MB and the system will resize both the thumbnail & the larger picture.

If you like you can email me the pics that don't load & I can experiment.

Chris
Chris Brancaccio
MTFCA Webmaster
MTFCA Forum Admin

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:48 pm

When I post vertical picture, portrait I believe, I get the dreaded triangle which indicates a limit of 1200 pixels high and 2400 pixels horizontally. So I have to reduce the picture so it’s less, then it works fine.
Chris I’ll send you the latest one to fail. 😊
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 6463
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Steve Jelf » Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:53 pm

So portrait means vertical and scenery means horizontal? I've never heard of that before.


So what is this?


IMG_92-93 copy 3.jpg
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

Mark Nunn
Posts: 1105
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 am
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Nunn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Runabout
Location: Bennington, NE
MTFCA Number: 50321
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Mark Nunn » Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:22 am

ChrisB, I have NEVER been able to post jpg photos from my phone or from my computer. That is regardless of file size. I get an error message which states that it is not possible to determine the dimensions of the image. I have to open the jpg in Paint and save it as a gif file. The gif error message says that the image must be, at most, 1600 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high. I resize to those values or less. Any photo that I can post is smaller than 900 kB. I don't post many photos because it's too much work. If the attached file results in an error, I have to edit it smaller. I can't save a file hat I've already attached to the post. I have to shut down the "Post Reply", resave the smaller file then start over. Repeat.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 6463
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Steve Jelf » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:03 am

Mark, that sounds like your problem is the source of your pictures. Nearly all the pictures I post are jpegs, mostly full size. If you look at the screen shot I posted on Sunday you'll see that photo files from my camera are coded with file size, dimensions, and other info. Try posting jpegs from a different camera and see what happens.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring


Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI
MTFCA Number: 28762
MTFCI Number: 22402

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by DHort » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:12 am

Chris is looking into it. I sent him a picture that will not post here. I can send it to other phones. I can e-mail it. But it will not post here. Has to be the software of this site.


Dallas Landers
Posts: 2786
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 12:26 pm
First Name: Dallas
Last Name: Landers
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 26 Rpu, 23 TT, 24 coupe,
Location: N.E. Indiana
MTFCA Number: 49995

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Dallas Landers » Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:28 am

Nope! Its just you Dave! :D

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:15 am

Steve, I downloaded your picture and it is 553 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high. The 1200 appears to be the upper limit from my experience.
The terms portrait and scenery are usually referenced as to how the picture is presented. In your case it is clearly presented as a portrait even though we all know its scenery presented rotated 90 degrees.
The limits I have found on pictures used in this site cannot exceed 1200 pixels vertically and 2400 pixels horizontally.
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

Mark Gregush
Posts: 4956
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Gregush
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 cutdown PU, 1920 Dodge touring, 1948 F2 Ford flat head 6 pickup 3 speed
Location: Portland Or
MTFCA Number: 52564
Board Member Since: 1999

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Mark Gregush » Tue Sep 15, 2020 11:21 am

Steve Jelf wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:53 pm
So portrait means vertical and scenery means horizontal? I've never heard of that before.


So what is this?



IMG_92-93 copy 3.jpg
Going up a really steep hill in a Model T! I would say it's a landscape on it's end. My computer software (windows 10) calls out landscape or portrait. Most portraits are done with the long sides vertical and landscape horizontal. Unless you are shooting in a square format (look at your old 35mm negatives), then all bets are off. When I was still shooting film with a 120 format, I could turn the camera so would take a wider shot when doing cars or landscape.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup

User avatar

TWrenn
Posts: 3389
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:53 am
First Name: Tim
Last Name: Wrenn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '13 Touring, '26 "Overlap" Fordor
Location: Ohio
MTFCA Number: 30701
MTFCI Number: 24033
Board Member Since: 2019

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TWrenn » Wed Sep 16, 2020 8:52 am

Mark, with all due respect, I think you meant to say 35mm you would turn the camera. 120 format is square pics, except in the unusual case of a Mamiya RB 67, which stood for "6x7" mm, it had a revolving back to switch from portrait to landscape format.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 6463
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Sep 16, 2020 10:53 am

Steve, I downloaded your picture and it is 553 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high. The 1200 appears to be the upper limit from my experience.

That's because this website automatically resized it. The original is 2699 × 5864.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:39 am

Strange as the site did not resize mine. I wonder why. I sent mine to Chris with no response to date.
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:56 am

Picture that failed

Oh I can’t post it but here is the error message 😊
Error message
Error message
In case you can’t see the small print, it reads:

The picture must be at least 0 pixels wide, and 0 pixels high and at most 1600 pixels wide and 1200 pixels high. The submitted picture is 1200 pixels wide and 1600 pixels high.

Comment
It was my understanding that this BBB site would sccept any size picture and resize to make it fit. It now appears the system does not always function correctly. Some large pictures are resized and other rejected. Of course there has to be a reason but it is beyond my capability to know what is the cause. Maybe the web masters can either find the cause or contact BBB to investigate. 😊
Last edited by TonyB on Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:59 am, edited 1 time in total.
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

Steve Jelf
Posts: 6463
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:37 pm
First Name: Steve
Last Name: Jelf
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 touring and a few projects
Location: Parkerfield, Kansas
MTFCA Number: 16175
MTFCI Number: 14758
Board Member Since: 2007
Contact:

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Steve Jelf » Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:57 am

I wonder if the posting problem has to do with phone cameras. Maybe some of them don't embed the data required by the website software. Pure speculation. I don't know.
The inevitable often happens.
1915 Runabout
1923 Touring

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:02 pm

I’m using an Apple iPhone 10 with 13.7 OS
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

TRDxB2
Posts: 5410
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
First Name: Frank
Last Name: Brandi
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedster (1919 w 1926)
Location: Moline IL
Board Member Since: 2018

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TRDxB2 » Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:08 pm

Using a Windows 10 Laptop. I "copied" (not download) Jeff's photo directly into Paint and it appeared vertical and complete. I rotated it 90deg to the right & it chopped off part of the left side. I then rotated it back to the left 90deg and it appeared complete and vertical. I then selected the image and moved it to the right so there would be room for the vertical image to be rotated within the page. I rotated right and the rotation kept the entire photo. I then cropped off the surrounding white area and did not resize it. I then saved as jpeg and then attached that photo here and was surprised to see it smaller than the original
jpan.jpg
jpan.jpg (31.61 KiB) Viewed 9290 times
I then went back to paint and selected that saved image and resized it 200% and posted it below. The forum software appears to have adjusted the size of the image.
jpan.jpg
I then downloaded/saved the image and checked the pixel size was 600x277 same as the copied ones. When I opened it in Paint there was no extra white area and it rotated to the right without chopping off any of the image. So Paint behaves differently on how the image is introduced to it. When I attached it to this post the Forum software again adjusted the image
jpan orig.jpg
jpan orig.jpg (34.78 KiB) Viewed 9290 times
In all 3 attempts the aspect ratio of the original image was maintained - just a bit smaller. So... It would appear that some manipulation of photos may be necessary for them to appear they way you want.
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Wed Sep 16, 2020 5:07 pm

This is the picture I tried to post but here I reduced the pixel count to 720 high and 540 wide
09 leaving 720 hi
09 leaving 720 hi


This version is 1280 by 960
09 leaving 1280 hi
09 leaving 1280 hi
This is the original 4032 x 3024
Error message
Error message
Strange that the pixel count in the error message is different than the value given by my photo editor. ☹️
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.


Topic author
DHort
Posts: 2461
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 1:30 pm
First Name: Dave
Last Name: Hjortnaes
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 24 Speedster, 20 touring
Location: Men Falls, WI
MTFCA Number: 28762
MTFCI Number: 22402

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by DHort » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:30 pm

Wonder if Chris is having any luck with this issue?

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:20 pm

I email my failing picture to Chris but I have heard nothing back to date. 😊
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

AdminJeff
Posts: 988
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:32 pm
First Name: Jeff
Last Name: Stevenson
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1921 Touring
Location: Wilder Idaho
MTFCA Number: 50006
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by AdminJeff » Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:36 pm

As I thought, no problem... you need to zip the ORIGINAL file and send it fir me to really see what's wrong.

Jeff
Attachments
14266259-C70D-4A70-83C8-5B1D263D64EF.jpeg
Assistant WebSite Admin
1921 Model T Touring, 1930 Model A Roadster
Voltage Regulators, Starter & Generator Repair
www.modeltregulators.com
www.modeltstarters.com

User avatar

AdminJeff
Posts: 988
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:32 pm
First Name: Jeff
Last Name: Stevenson
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1921 Touring
Location: Wilder Idaho
MTFCA Number: 50006
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by AdminJeff » Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:10 pm

4032x 3024
Attachments
9A0BB50E-0584-4C5A-8C84-C5087E27C054.jpeg
Assistant WebSite Admin
1921 Model T Touring, 1930 Model A Roadster
Voltage Regulators, Starter & Generator Repair
www.modeltregulators.com
www.modeltstarters.com

User avatar

TonyB
Posts: 663
Joined: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:15 am
First Name: Tony
Last Name: Bowker
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1914 touring
Location: La Mesa, CA
MTFCA Number: 32
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2005

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TonyB » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:28 am

Jeff has made an adjustment to the BBB web site.
This is my picture that would not upload.
1909 on its way to Quebec
1909 on its way to Quebec
Success
Thanks Jeff😊😊
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.

User avatar

Mark Nunn
Posts: 1105
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 am
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Nunn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Runabout
Location: Bennington, NE
MTFCA Number: 50321
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Mark Nunn » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:12 pm

New phone photo test
PXL_20210125_180918054.jpg
Dog gonnit. It worked.

User avatar

Mark Nunn
Posts: 1105
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 8:01 am
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Nunn
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1926 Runabout
Location: Bennington, NE
MTFCA Number: 50321
Board Member Since: 2017

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by Mark Nunn » Mon Jan 25, 2021 1:25 pm

New phone. Photo test 16:9
PXL_20210125_182353763.jpg
Success.

User avatar

TRDxB2
Posts: 5410
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm
First Name: Frank
Last Name: Brandi
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Speedster (1919 w 1926)
Location: Moline IL
Board Member Since: 2018

Re: Why do I have pics I cannot upload

Post by TRDxB2 » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:03 am

DHort wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:21 am
I click on attachments, and add file. The photo shows up, but there is a yellow triangle under status. It tells me that it does not know the dimensions of the file. Everything is good on the desktop and I can transmit the file with no problems. What is this software looking for? This is a frequent occurance. Thank you.
The forum software has two parameters that is checks against uploaded images. If they exceed one of them you get the yellow triangle. One is the image size in bytes and the other is the image width in pixels. These values are set by the sites administrator.

I tried to explain the possible reason for the sideways images https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3646
The past is a great place and I don't want to erase it or to regret it, but I don't want to be its prisoner either.
Mick Jagger

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic