Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Discuss all things Model T related.
Forum rules
If you need help logging in, or have question about how something works, use the Support forum located here Support Forum
Complete set of Forum Rules Forum Rules

Topic author
prew62
Posts: 1
Joined: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:58 am
First Name: Prewitt
Last Name: Scripps
Location: Virginia

Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by prew62 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:11 pm

Just purchased an air pump for my fuel tank to replace the one missing on my 1911 Chalmers. Was hoping to find out what oil or grease those of you who use hand pumps, use.

Thanks!

User avatar

Henry K. Lee
Posts: 5339
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:09 am
First Name: Henry
Last Name: Lee
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: Many
Location: South Pittsburg, TN
MTFCA Number: 479
MTFCA Life Member: YES

Re: Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by Henry K. Lee » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:43 pm

Vaseline is what I have always used!

Hank


Dan McEachern
Posts: 1188
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 11:08 am
First Name: DAN
Last Name: MCEACHERN
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: too many. '14 touring, 2 depot hacks, 2 speedsters
Location: ALAMEDA,CA,USA

Re: Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by Dan McEachern » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:11 pm

If it has a leather disc for a piston seal, use neatsfoot oil on the leather. I do admit to a little machine oil from time to time though.

User avatar

Kaiser
Posts: 1033
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:32 am
First Name: Leo
Last Name: van Stirum
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1923 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver
Location: Netherlands
Board Member Since: 2016

Re: Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by Kaiser » Wed Oct 23, 2019 9:37 am

Vaseline or neatsfoot oil may work great on an airpump, but gasoline fumes might dilute them, when using the airpump on a gas tank.
you could try the grease designed for use on gas valves, it is called 'EZ turn' and i believe Lang's sells it, it won't dissolve in gasoline, and an old trick ; a bar of soap might work, it's slippery and won't dissolve in gas, used it in the past to lubricate gas valves and even did a temporary fix on a carb float once to help a buddy get home.
His carb kept flooding, turned out he had a tiny pinhole in the float so it slowly filled with gas and sank, flooding the carb.
We drained the float ( took waaay longer than filling it, shaking the gas out through the pin hole) then gave a good coating with a bar of soap from the restroom of the gas station where we were stopped and it got him home the last 30 miles or so.
When in trouble, do not fear, blame the second engineer ! 8-)
Leo van Stirum, Netherlands
'23 Huckster, '66 CJ5 daily driver


YellowTRacer
Posts: 440
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:55 pm
First Name: Ed
Last Name: Archer
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1909 replica Transcontinental race car, 1915 2 man race car, 1918 American bodied speedster
Location: 1807 East Ave. Hayward, CA 94541
MTFCA Number: 19
MTFCA Life Member: YES
Board Member Since: 2009

Re: Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by YellowTRacer » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:24 pm

Right or wrong I've been using 30 wt. engine oil for 50+ years with no problems. Learned it from the old timers

Ed aka #4

User avatar

DanTreace
Posts: 3322
Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:56 am
First Name: Dan
Last Name: Treace
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: '23 cutoff, '25 touring, '27 touring
Location: North Central FL
MTFCA Number: 4838
MTFCI Number: 115
Board Member Since: 2000
Contact:

Re: Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by DanTreace » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:52 pm

Most older publications state to use vaseline for the cupped leather washers in air pumps.
Oil can work in the leather and make it soft, giving poor sealing.
The best way is always the simplest. The attics of the world are cluttered up with complicated failures. Henry Ford
Don’t find fault, find a remedy; anybody can complain. Henry Ford

User avatar

Mark Gregush
Posts: 4962
Joined: Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:57 pm
First Name: Mark
Last Name: Gregush
* REQUIRED* Type and Year of Model Ts owned: 1925 cutdown PU, 1920 Dodge touring, 1948 F2 Ford flat head 6 pickup 3 speed
Location: Portland Or
MTFCA Number: 52564
Board Member Since: 1999

Re: Grease for air pump for fuel tank

Post by Mark Gregush » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:31 am

From the Colman Company for care of the pump;
When it's time to take out your lantern, remember to oil the pump cup on the tank's pump plunger at least twice a year with a light machine oil. This allows the cup to seal against the inside of the pump barrel and insures the pump will work smoothly and push air into the tank properly.
They have a leather seal and are just as close to the fuel.
So now I have a question; is the leather piston in these a flat disk or cupped? If a flat disk I can see using just Vaseline, with the cupped type I would think it would need to be flexible so the air pressure on the down stroke can push against the side wall for sealing. The tire pump, Colman stove/lantern and lead melting burner all have cupped leathers and I have been using oil on them.
I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas! :shock:

1925 Cut down pickup
1920 Dodge touring
1948 Ford F2 pickup

Post Reply Previous topicNext topic