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Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by henryford2 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:07 am

Looking to buy a set of safety hubs for a large drum axle with wire wheels. Looking through the vendors offerings I've notice some differences between designs. I'm soliciting people to share their experiences and opinions, pros and cons on those that they may be familiar with.
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This is the Stoltz (Model T Ranch), 2 "O" rings and a needle roller bearing (is this necessary and a good application for this type of bearing) and a wide groove to I assume allow the "stub" to move both radially and length wise? It appears from their catalog pictures that both Lang's and Snyders carry the Stoltz hub.
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This offering is from MAC's a single "O" ring, no needle bearing (?) and a narrower groove.
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I believe this to be a McEachern hub, no needle bearing, no groove. I know there is quite a controversy between locking the hub in tight and allowing it to float.

Not aware of any others out there. Thanks

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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by Henry K. Lee » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:32 am

Sent you an email Joe.

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Post by Dan McEachern » Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:34 am

Joe- - I got your e-mail. Will respond today. Dan


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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by Les Schubert » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:17 am

I have made my own for many years. I have always let them float. If you actually torque off/ break a axle the friction of the close fit (about.002-.004 clearances) to the tube along with the O ring will easily keep the wheel in place while you stop. Just my opinion.
Now I just might install a set screw in a installation I’m doing this winter as it will have a Bailey locking differential, so you wouldn’t immediately know if you broke a axle!!

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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by kelly mt » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:52 am

I'm running a set of Stoltz hubs on my Roadster. No issues, work great.

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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by henryford2 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:28 pm

Thanks everyone, bought a pair from Dan.


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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by Mark oconnor » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:25 pm

I have a McEachern hub on my T. I have oil leaking out onto my brakes. What kind of seal does this have, and how do I get to it. I removed the Allen head set screw from the axle housing. I can't pull the hub out

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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by henryford2 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:24 pm

I'm sure Dan can supply you with the correct part number on the seal. As far as not being able to get the hub out perhaps whoever installed the hubs allowed the set screws to score the hub preventing it from pulling out? Again Dan would be of more help and can be contacted through the site. Good luck, Joe


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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by Philip » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:29 pm

I made my own if I make any more I will tap the flange holes and bolt them from the outside
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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by Nv Bob » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:17 pm

I put in 3 sets on Dan's Mceachern one with stock brakes wood wheels one set on Brid havens brakes with dayton wires
And cueently set on Mclaren wire and custom drum brakes
After i installed everything o drill the grease cup hole into the hub and bolt and jam nut setup hold it
There an O ring and inner surface has neopreme seal
Never had any trouble


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Re: Safety Hub Options Preference and Opinions

Post by Dan McEachern » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:20 am

Mark- if you need help send me an e-mail. dmcgears@yahoo.com. Did you get the wheel hub loose from the axle taper? if so, the wheel should slide out. Dan

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