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Mark Osterman
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Authentic Top Trim Pieces
Am thinking about rebuilding the top on my ‘23 runabout. I have these pieces that were used to finish the ends of hidem welt. The top one was near the arm rest. Thinking one in the middle is model A rather than T. The bottom one was on the top trim.
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TonyB
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
I have seen the style on the second picture on what I believe to be fairly original cars.
I don’t know a modern source.
I don’t know a modern source.
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
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CudaMan
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
Mark Strange
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
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Original Smith
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
You have a lot of priming and sanding to do on that top one, I've done it, and to me it's worth it for a non obtainable part. It would be nice for someone that does stamping to be able to remake that part. If there is someone out there that can do it, I have a NOS spear to loan.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
A friend contacted me with pictures of trim ends available from Macs. One looks very similar to the one I have previously seen on Ts.
Apparently Macs has several other styles in their catalog.
- Trim end from Macs
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Tony Bowker
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Jim, Sr.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
These are photos of an original 1924 touring.
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1922 Coupe , 1926 Touring
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Original Smith
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Thanks Jim for posting. I can always rely on you to post important information with no guessing allowed!!
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Mark Osterman
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Ok guys. So, it appears that I’m missing one of these. Anyone have one to spare that is as crappy as mine? 
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I have just one, a couple shades better. It’ll be in the mail. T
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Mark: When you get mine, you'll have an extra! Happy Thanksgiving!
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
So, I would like a little more edjumacashion about these end pieces...
1) Is the end for the top the pointed end and the end for the armrest square the end?
2) Is the arrow-head shaped piece (finger pointing #1) the same as the rusty ends (#4 & #5 from the left) but the notches out of the corners?
2b) Could a #1 be made from a #4 or #5?
3) Was the non-notched type used? If so, when?
I presume these would only been used with the hide 'em welt used from about 1923-1925?
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Keith
1) Is the end for the top the pointed end and the end for the armrest square the end?
2) Is the arrow-head shaped piece (finger pointing #1) the same as the rusty ends (#4 & #5 from the left) but the notches out of the corners?
2b) Could a #1 be made from a #4 or #5?
3) Was the non-notched type used? If so, when?
I presume these would only been used with the hide 'em welt used from about 1923-1925?
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Keith
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Mark Osterman
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
Thanks Tim!
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
It looks to me like some of those that Tim posted could be made to look very close to an original with a bit of time and a Dremel with a cutoff wheel. Dave
1925 mostly original coupe.
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The problem with converting a common style spear to the Ford style is the Ford style is bigger. Yes, you can alter a common one to have the tails like a Ford one, but it still will not be correct. The Ford spear is wider from top to bottom.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
The spears posted above as far as I know were only used by Ford. They can't be made from anything. If someone with a metal stamping business would be willing to make a die to stamp these, I'm sure it would be a big seller for the purists.