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Authentic Top Trim Pieces
Am thinking about rebuilding the top on my ‘23 runabout. I have these pieces that were used to finish the ends of hidem welt. The top one was near the arm rest. Thinking one in the middle is model A rather than T. The bottom one was on the top trim.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
I have seen the style on the second picture on what I believe to be fairly original cars.
I don’t know a modern source.
I don’t know a modern source.
Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
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Mark Strange
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
You have a lot of priming and sanding to do on that top one, I've done it, and to me it's worth it for a non obtainable part. It would be nice for someone that does stamping to be able to remake that part. If there is someone out there that can do it, I have a NOS spear to loan.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
A friend contacted me with pictures of trim ends available from Macs. One looks very similar to the one I have previously seen on Ts.
Apparently Macs has several other styles in their catalog.Tony Bowker
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
La Mesa, California
1914 Touring, 1915 Speedster, 1924 Coupe.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
These are photos of an original 1924 touring.
1922 Coupe , 1926 Touring
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Thanks Jim for posting. I can always rely on you to post important information with no guessing allowed!!
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Ok guys. So, it appears that I’m missing one of these. Anyone have one to spare that is as crappy as mine?
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I have just one, a couple shades better. It’ll be in the mail. T
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Mark: When you get mine, you'll have an extra! Happy Thanksgiving!
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
So, I would like a little more edjumacashion about these end pieces...
1) Is the end for the top the pointed end and the end for the armrest square the end?
2) Is the arrow-head shaped piece (finger pointing #1) the same as the rusty ends (#4 & #5 from the left) but the notches out of the corners?
2b) Could a #1 be made from a #4 or #5?
3) Was the non-notched type used? If so, when?
I presume these would only been used with the hide 'em welt used from about 1923-1925?
: ^ )
Keith
1) Is the end for the top the pointed end and the end for the armrest square the end?
2) Is the arrow-head shaped piece (finger pointing #1) the same as the rusty ends (#4 & #5 from the left) but the notches out of the corners?
2b) Could a #1 be made from a #4 or #5?
3) Was the non-notched type used? If so, when?
I presume these would only been used with the hide 'em welt used from about 1923-1925?
: ^ )
Keith
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Thanks Tim!
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
It looks to me like some of those that Tim posted could be made to look very close to an original with a bit of time and a Dremel with a cutoff wheel. Dave
1925 mostly original coupe.
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Re: Authentic Top Trim Pieces
The problem with converting a common style spear to the Ford style is the Ford style is bigger. Yes, you can alter a common one to have the tails like a Ford one, but it still will not be correct. The Ford spear is wider from top to bottom.
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The spears posted above as far as I know were only used by Ford. They can't be made from anything. If someone with a metal stamping business would be willing to make a die to stamp these, I'm sure it would be a big seller for the purists.