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Don, I believe the bolts should be 5/16" coach bolts, with the nuts under the hood former. Here in Australia, coach bolts come with Whitworth nuts. On 5/16" bolts these nuts are bigger than those Henry used. If I make a special order for 5/16" UNC nuts, then I get the correct size, which is 1/2".
I love the way your hood fits.
Hope this helps. Allan from down under.
I love the way your hood fits.
Hope this helps. Allan from down under.
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Sounds right to me Allen, thank you !! Happy Easter to you and yours.
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So I'm cleaning up the door hinges on this century old machine and find a "heart" shaped stamping on each hinge. The initials "S W" stamped inside the heart. Anyone know who this could have been? Thanks in advance !!
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Don, Something in My memory brain is telling me it is Stanley works. ( Stanley hardware) They were a huge hardware supplier back then, and likely an off the shelf item for the builder. A search of cartouche marks on the interweb may be worthwhile.
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Tim you are absolutely right !! The following is from a FaceBook friend.
The S.W. in the heart design appeared "according to my sources", in
various configurations below the notched rectangle STANLEY logo, from c.
1920 to c. 1934. It was preceded by the "V logo" and followed by the
simple notched rectangle.
Before 1920 the Stanley Rule and Level Co. and Stanley Works
existed as two separate companies (it's a long story...) For some time
before the merger of the two firms in 1920, Stanley Works had been using
the heart logo with SW inside, in recognition of company stalwart William
H. Hart, who served the firm for 61 years and was Chairman of the Board
from 1915-18 (when he "retired" at age 84 and died the following year!).
After the merger, tradition has it that employees were invited to suggest a
new logo for the now united operation, and what we now call the Sweetheart
logo on Stanley tools was born. Although the use of the SW in the heart
was formally dropped in favor of the simple notched rectangle in 1934, the
older combination logo still came out of the plant on various product lines
until the old stock was used up over the next several years.
The S.W. in the heart design appeared "according to my sources", in
various configurations below the notched rectangle STANLEY logo, from c.
1920 to c. 1934. It was preceded by the "V logo" and followed by the
simple notched rectangle.
Before 1920 the Stanley Rule and Level Co. and Stanley Works
existed as two separate companies (it's a long story...) For some time
before the merger of the two firms in 1920, Stanley Works had been using
the heart logo with SW inside, in recognition of company stalwart William
H. Hart, who served the firm for 61 years and was Chairman of the Board
from 1915-18 (when he "retired" at age 84 and died the following year!).
After the merger, tradition has it that employees were invited to suggest a
new logo for the now united operation, and what we now call the Sweetheart
logo on Stanley tools was born. Although the use of the SW in the heart
was formally dropped in favor of the simple notched rectangle in 1934, the
older combination logo still came out of the plant on various product lines
until the old stock was used up over the next several years.
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Neat info, Don. Sad that Stanley has gone the way of the really cheap tool market.(got no time for crap tools ) I have some old Stanley stuff that I’ll have and use forever.
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Started to do some painting today on a few smalls. Painting once a year isn't enough, and it shows. Still very wet in these pictures.
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Don,
If I could paint that good just once a year, I would be ECSTATIC!!!! Geez, those look great in the photos. I realize, close up, you might be able to see some small defects but the photos look outstanding. Good Work!
Cheers,
Terry
If I could paint that good just once a year, I would be ECSTATIC!!!! Geez, those look great in the photos. I realize, close up, you might be able to see some small defects but the photos look outstanding. Good Work!
Cheers,
Terry
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Thank you Terry, I probably should have waited until it laid down and dried before taking pictures. Being that its still wet is shows every little piece of dust in it. I will have to wait until the morning to see what I actually have here. Either way it all gets wet sanded and then either clear coat or cut and polished. Just having fun during the lockdown !! Hope everyone else is too.
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Crowned rear fenders?
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Yeah, I question those fenders also. Mike Husted didn't think they were correct for a early '16 either. The hood, radiator shell and hood shelfs all appeared to be re-pops. They had no surface pitting anywhere and the radiator was newer also. So, more research has to be done on the period before I fork over more money on a maybe. I would also have to have the flat style fenders of the '15's to see if they would properly fit the deep fender wells on this body. The fender wells are just shy of 5" deep in the front where they meet up with the aprons. Talk to me Wayne !
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Bruce's book talks about the 1915 -1916 sedans starting on page 201. It mentions that 1915 sedans had an aluminum body and different splash shields and rear fenders from the "other models", but by 1916 it had a steel body and used the same splash shields and rear fenders as the "other models". It mentions that the rear fenders were attached directly to the body rather than using irons. The rear fenders do not appear to be crowned in the pictures in the book.
Bruce's book also has a special section on the entire run of the "Centerdoor" sedans starting on page 287.
Bruce's book also has a special section on the entire run of the "Centerdoor" sedans starting on page 287.
Mark Strange
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Hillsboro, MO
1924 Cut-off Touring (now a pickup)
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Yeah Mark, I've had some long discussions on the body and fenders and the entire car in general. The FaceBook groups I belong to have no definite answer. They do agree this car is transitional and may very well be correct OR incorrect. Until I get some solid proof that it's wrong I will go with what I got. Bruce McCalley's book is very much a gray area for this centerdoor time period. I guess he even admitted he couldn't be certain what he wrote was right. It keeps things interesting to say the least.
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I had a few discussions with Bruce personally when I was restoring mine. He admitted he didn't know for certain what the '16 model c-d sedans were like, or even IF they were originally built at all. Decent evidence that they were in fact built didn't come to light until after Bruce was gone.
In the first place. It MUST always be remembered that the "true" '15 model c-d sedans and the '16 brass model c-d sedans are two completely different animals. Although they look very similar from a distance (or in most photographs), in details, exact dimensions, materials, and trimming, they are VERY different. There IS reason to believe that a few transitional early '16 model c-d sedans had some carryover pieces. A long-time friend of mine had one that still had its factory installed gasoline tank under the rear seat! However, a previous owner had also installed a later front seat and square gasoline tank because of the fuel flow problems that rear seat tank became famous for. And his car was a Canadian built sedan, so that casts doubt about some differences from USA cars. My car had an identical rear seat structure as did his, and our two were the only c-d sedans I looked at that had that structure. Every other c-d sedan I looked at was different than ours, and I looked at about two dozen of them.
My '16 c-d sedan also had the early '15 sedan fenders on it. Unfortunately, my car had suffered a bad '50s restoration casting doubts on everything about it. There were good reasons to believe it had been the real thing, and a well known San Francisco Bay Area collector that had previously owned the car claimed the rear fenders were what the car had when he got it.
As for the rear fenders. I haven't seen a really definitive date given for when the crowned rear fenders began showing up on cars. Apparently, from past discussions on the subject, the rear crowned fenders started showing up late in 1916 model brass radiator cars. That detail rarely shows in era photographs. Usually, the picture is of some thing or some one else, and we get to hope to see such car details. Rear fenders were rarely ever the subject of era photographs. From many common angles photos are taken from, the crown does not show. Many times, one can "think" they can see the crown or not, but often it is as much illusion as it is a clear view. I have seen a few era photos that clearly did have the crowned rear fender on a brass touring car. But not many. And I have spent a fair amount of time studying multiple photographs of a single car just to study how both crowned and flat curved rear fenders look from different angles. In some of those past discussions, a few people having nice original late '16 model Ts, with good reason to believe the rear fenders were original to the car, have found the crowned rear fenders as early as late June of 1916, and several from July and August. I doubt that any T had the crowned rear fenders before late June of '16.
And as usual for me, that is my opinion from my memories of past discussions.
In the first place. It MUST always be remembered that the "true" '15 model c-d sedans and the '16 brass model c-d sedans are two completely different animals. Although they look very similar from a distance (or in most photographs), in details, exact dimensions, materials, and trimming, they are VERY different. There IS reason to believe that a few transitional early '16 model c-d sedans had some carryover pieces. A long-time friend of mine had one that still had its factory installed gasoline tank under the rear seat! However, a previous owner had also installed a later front seat and square gasoline tank because of the fuel flow problems that rear seat tank became famous for. And his car was a Canadian built sedan, so that casts doubt about some differences from USA cars. My car had an identical rear seat structure as did his, and our two were the only c-d sedans I looked at that had that structure. Every other c-d sedan I looked at was different than ours, and I looked at about two dozen of them.
My '16 c-d sedan also had the early '15 sedan fenders on it. Unfortunately, my car had suffered a bad '50s restoration casting doubts on everything about it. There were good reasons to believe it had been the real thing, and a well known San Francisco Bay Area collector that had previously owned the car claimed the rear fenders were what the car had when he got it.
As for the rear fenders. I haven't seen a really definitive date given for when the crowned rear fenders began showing up on cars. Apparently, from past discussions on the subject, the rear crowned fenders started showing up late in 1916 model brass radiator cars. That detail rarely shows in era photographs. Usually, the picture is of some thing or some one else, and we get to hope to see such car details. Rear fenders were rarely ever the subject of era photographs. From many common angles photos are taken from, the crown does not show. Many times, one can "think" they can see the crown or not, but often it is as much illusion as it is a clear view. I have seen a few era photos that clearly did have the crowned rear fender on a brass touring car. But not many. And I have spent a fair amount of time studying multiple photographs of a single car just to study how both crowned and flat curved rear fenders look from different angles. In some of those past discussions, a few people having nice original late '16 model Ts, with good reason to believe the rear fenders were original to the car, have found the crowned rear fenders as early as late June of 1916, and several from July and August. I doubt that any T had the crowned rear fenders before late June of '16.
And as usual for me, that is my opinion from my memories of past discussions.
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Ohhh BABY!! It laid down real nicely. The morning after results. Love that paint !
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Wow, that is nice nice!! Is this the super paint like the red paint $$$ you used on the Sedan? Good job Buddy.
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Basically the same... Thanks Joe.
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You do very nice work!
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Thanks Wayne...I follow the 50ft rule.
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Mirror mirror on the T, the reflection looks like a fatter me....
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It is nice to see someone follows Henrys way of applying paint using a paint brush, garden hose and dipping. Points should be taken off if they shine to much, we cannot have that. Mike
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That is a BEAUTIFUL paint finish. I can't wait to see the car all together.
1922 Coupe & 1927 Touring
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Oh yeah thanks Mike !! I used a hair brush and tree sprayer ! LOL...
Mr Pete Kerry thank you !!
Tough crowd here on this forum...
Mr Pete Kerry thank you !!
Tough crowd here on this forum...
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Nice Paintwork!! Thought you might enjoy seeing this photo, I would guess it has been posted here before.
Still crankin old iron
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I would not have thought of the hair brush as I have very little, very appropriate, the only thing missing is the hair dryer, that would count as
oven baked.
oven baked.
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Not unlike Mr. Husted's jokes, the lady is in her prime !! LOL.... I love ya Mike !!
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Did I understand you, when you said you use a hair net for a strainer? that being said what do you use rollers for? I hope all the rattle cans are of the
same batch # Mike
same batch # Mike
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Ok so after talking to master restorer Mike Husted I think I am ready to start ! Still don't know why I need a over the shoulder boulder holder but hey, if he says so....
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I think the perfume might be having an effect. You have to be careful with it. Which do you prefer, Lacquer or enamel?
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I prefer not to prefer because the second you prefer someone else prefers. It just ends up a contest as to who prefers to prefer what they prefer to prefer. You understand....
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I should add that epoxy can be a real killer fragrance, have you started your sheet runs today, love to see pictures of them, there best seen in flat panels, and belt lines but they are user friendly. I have to go get my batteries recharged this afternoon again so I do not loose that glow in the dark.
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I see you have the Dolly Parton paint kit ready to go!
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Excellent job and beautiful paint work to say the least! When finished, will this car be a true representation of what the factory produced in 1916 or will it be something more grand and beyond what mass production would look like?
<o><o><o><o> Tim Rogers - South of the Adirondacks - Forum member since 2013 <o><o><o><o>
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Tim it should look like the picture, except I will be adding the carriage lights. Thanks for asking...
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Outstanding job! Looks great
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Thank you Bill, this is the result of 5 hrs of spraying this morning. The paint is still wet and hasn't laid down. Fingers are crossed and prayers for the sprayer !
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A Black Beauty - hope to be lucky enough see it in person one day.
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That is a fantastic upholstery job. Mike
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Looks great Don! Good choice on the color.
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My late next door neighbor, a nationally known Cord 810/812 guy, used to say, "A talented amateur beats a highly paid professional every time!"
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The pink upholstery gives it that nice contrast. Excellent color choice. I believe this is the first car I have ever seen with a upholstered engine compartment, Keep up the good work.
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Don,
Your body paint should be well hard enough for close inspection now. Are you happy with the result ? Sure looks good from here !
Your body paint should be well hard enough for close inspection now. Are you happy with the result ? Sure looks good from here !
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Dick, I should have waited another month for the temps to come up. But being the impatient, quickly bored and forge ahead dummy that I am...I painted it anyway. So, the truth is each day it looks better and its because of the cooler temperatures of everything from the paint itself to the compressor air. I am going to wait a full week before wet sanding and cut and polishing but I'm pretty happy with it. This week I will be wet sanding the fenders and smalls I had already painted. I doubt anybody wants to look at pictures of that tho. Thanks for asking !
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I also should have added that Mike Husted and I talked about the effects of the borderline temperatures. The conversation lasted about an hour and although most of the conversation was garbled at Mr. Husted's end I picked up what I could. But be warned if you call Mr. Husted and you hear a continuous crinkling and I mean very loud crinkling it's actually caused by numerous Twinkies being devoured. And don't be surprised if a sudden burst of frustration comes very clearly across the phone. It's caused by the bottom cake of the Twinkie sticking to the paper wrapper. The ole Twinkie eater !!!
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DON, my hats off to you, super work, its been a hoot watching the progress, it will be great to see the ford on its first run, here is a photo i found years ago in a old buld. thank you for taking us along on its new life, very enjoyable,,greg.
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Thank you, thank you Richard. I very much appreciate that and if God is willing this thread and the story will live for some time yet. I often wonder if posting this entire project becomes a bit much? The truth is I had no choice. This car has been a history lesson like no other, to me. Being completely at the mercy of those that can help find some answers. It is a group project in every regard. Thanks again, be safe !! Cool pic !!
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4 days later and each day shows improvement on the paint. I will wait 7 days before working on it...
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You left out when the Werther's Original caramels stick to ones plate while talking is a problem.
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Dang it Mike, I was saving that one for later !! LOL
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When are you going to upholster that blue seat with that pink material? If you do not have enough I can look at the Goodwill store. That is about as cheep as it gets. You can get the padding out of old mattresses they will give them to you to haul them away.
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Never you mind Twinkie boy !! Besides I kinda like the looks of hot pink with a nice green piping cord....yeah that's the trick !!
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I know you did not find the word twinkie in the dictionary, you had to make a special trip to the market to find the spelling. How many did you buy?
They were $1.98 here this morning. I still like the use of old mattresses. With the savings you could buy more.
They were $1.98 here this morning. I still like the use of old mattresses. With the savings you could buy more.
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Well with your help I went and did it. I have to blame some one if it goes wrong. Thanks Mike
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Are you talking about the plunge saw Mike? Here's what I did this morning, Steve Culp said he would cut and polish his cars until he could read the label on the overhead lights. Steve is renown for designing and building the "Culp Special" acrobatic bi-planes. He now builds and designs modern speedsters. His work is beyond words.
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WOW! looking in at that paint job I see I need to shave!
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Ahhh you've needed a shave since day two of the lockdown Mr. Ketepary !! So I am cleaning up the dual socket headlight and ran across this.. FORD VICTOR. Does anyone know the story behind this? Just curious. Thanks in advance !
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Day 4 of wet sanding....you have to live it to appreciate it. Uhgggg !!!
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I'm just sitting here eating M&M's watching you wet sand
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Now I know why the steeps to the motor home are down. Sand once rest for an hour, sand twice rest for an hour, sand three times sleep for the rest
of the day.
of the day.
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Amen to that! I'm glad last summer when I painted and color sanded my 15 runabout, that the body was much smaller than your centerdoor or even a touring car.fordorgalore wrote: ↑Sat May 02, 2020 5:02 pmDay 4 of wet sanding....you have to live it to appreciate it. Uhgggg !!!
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You guys should color sand a full size Lincoln Town Car! When you get done if you have any skin left on your fingers the finger prints are gone and you can not pick up a wet glass of water without it slipping out of your hand. We always said sand it till you see the red primer. (We used gray primer, the red was blood)
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Almost done with cut/polish process. Taking the afternoon off and letting it get a tan.
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It is nice to see the table is set with a nice looking table cloth in the Engine compartment. Are you cooking Sunday dinner on the exhaust manifold?
Next you will have the good silver out.
Next you will have the good silver out.
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Lester take that Twinkie out of your mouth !! And put those caramels away you know how they stick to your teeth !!
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It is nice to see the easy chair in the background, it is the most important tool there is. You did not say what is on the menu?
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Don,
Your paint work is gorgeous!! Take it from one who did that last year on my centerdoor!
Dave
Your paint work is gorgeous!! Take it from one who did that last year on my centerdoor!
Dave
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I called about the wood for the 22 and it runs about $700 and that not all of it. Will pick it up tomorrow. Mike
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WoW ~~!! That seems a bit high, but I don't live in Idaho. Be safe Mike !!
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Got the wiring installed, set the timing, installed the low beams and aligned the hood for this 200th time.
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WOW! That is some car I'll bet you're proud of that baby.
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Beautiful!
Please post a link to a Youtube video of its first startup and run.
Please post a link to a Youtube video of its first startup and run.
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Thanks Dennis, and Mark I will try to do just that. I'm in no hurry to get it cranked up because I want to start mounting the fenders, running boards and a few others. I did have it running when I bought it and I have to figure out the Stromberg carb on this thing. So if anyone knows where the carb adjustment should be set for a good start please let me know. Thanks in advance !!
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Contact Stan Howe, he knows those Strombergs backwards and forwards.
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Thanks Mark, I will give him a try. So today after a century or so the carriage lights brighten the day once again. My special thanks to Jim Perry for trusting me as the caretaker of these jewels. Thank you Jim !!
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As of noon today Henry's little lady is finally fully dressed !!
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How did you get that done so fast? I'm three years in on a restoration and half as far along as you are! Don't you ever sleep?
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Time to get out your milk crate and go for a ride!
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Those carriage lamps make the perfect pigtails on Henry's little lady. Boy everything's beautiful. You better get some pictures submitted to the club magazine. She'll make the perfect "Centerfold Girl"
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Don, if there is an OldCar Festival, I had better see this car there- and get a ride!
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Cleaning up the bale handle and I found this marked on the shaft. It appears to be a $. Does anyone know what trademark this is?
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It looks like a piece of art, great job Don!
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Thank you Robt, I appreciate that !! Next week I will start on the interior. I've ordered the materials and should receive them within a week. It should be interesting to see if I can pull it off. It won't be anything fancy but I hope to do a "clean" job. Fingers crossed again !
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The Ford parts list from the 1920's. Clearly shows that the grip loop handles were painted originally. The body illustration shows many differences from the 15-16's including the door handles, window latches and more. Interesting stuff !
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She lightens up my life !! Completed the wiring, converted the system to 6v. They all work as they should including the magneto horn. On to the upholstery now.
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I am amazed by the results, and the speed at which you achieved such a fantastic automobile from such a messed up pile!
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Don, she is absolutely beautiful. That car could not have landed in better hands. This may sound nit picky, but to my eyes, those fluted lenses in the headlights look out of place. The plain lens shows all there is to see, and add to the wistful appearance of the early cars. You may see things differently, and that is OK too.
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I did not know that duck tape came in green. Is that better than sewing.
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That's masking tape, it allows ole farts to sew a straight line ! (or somewhat straight line. Sorta) Picked this up today. Industrial sewing machine that handles those door panels like its a Twinkie on Mr. Husted's desk !!
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Looks alot like mine Don. My foot feed is so fast, I cant get used to it. They will sew about anything that will fit under the foot.
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If twinkies came in that color green I would be in deep trouble. What's with that thread hanging down? must be a chain thread do not pull.
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When you get done with my wood clamps and sewing machine I will need it for my 22. and heavy on the Mr.
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Dallas, same here. It will take much practice before I take a chance on the panels. But I am excited to get to it.
MISTER HUSTED, as far as getting your clamps back....well I'm afraid you're screwed !! LOL
MISTER HUSTED, as far as getting your clamps back....well I'm afraid you're screwed !! LOL
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I need to get a good used industrial walking foot machine. My 1946 Singer 15-91 doesn't have a walking foot and it struggles to sew through more than two layers of vinyl. They make walking foot attachements, but the ones I have seen are made of cheap plastic and don't look like they would be up to the job.
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