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Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:30 pm

I looked at a TT today and it was in a very tight space, but I was able to turn the crank. It was easy to turn and when I put it in high or stepped on the peddle for low, the rear wheels did not turn! Could the drive shaft be disconnected? Could it be a broken crank? Next weekend I will be able to take a better look at it. Thanks


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Scott_Conger » Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:46 pm

Jonathan

the TT is a worm drive vehicle with very low gearing. Perhaps with 1 or 2 partial turns of the engine, you simply did not detect movement but there in fact WAS movement. Often these vehicles were fitted with an auxilliary transmission to give them an overdrive, or speed more similar to that of a standard T of the day. These transmissions frequently had a neutral.

Beyond that, not nearly enough information to analyze.
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by A Whiteman » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:25 pm

As Scott mentioned, the TT is low geared, so there should have been some movement, but depending how many turns you made,, that movement may have been very small.

Check if it has an auxillary gearbox installed - usually an extra gear shift pops up from the floor. If so this MAY be in neutral (which can be an issue but we will lead you through that later...).

If a rear axle is broken you may get no movement either, but like Scott said as well, there is not really enough info to define if there is a problem, and if there is one, it could be broken crank, broken rear axle, broken Ruckstell (if one is fitted in rear diff), broken output shaft or none of the above :-0


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:01 pm

Hello everyone, so i went to take a closer look at the TT today. I discovered that it is equipped with a 2 speed Ruxtull. To further search for the cause of the problem at hand, i removed the oil fill plug in the axle and told a friend of mine to turn the crank. I observed the driveshaft turning but nothing else. So the "disconnect" problem is in the axle, what could be a common problem as to what exactly is broken? Also the engine and trans has never been touched (Factory). Thank you


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Joe Reid » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:09 pm

Could be a worn Ruckstell in a neutral position which they are not supposed to have.


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:19 pm

Thank you Joe, Now the axle has this "neutral" no matter what position the shifter is in. And are parts available for a one ton ruxtull?

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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Steve Jelf » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:20 pm

...the engine and trans has never been touched...

How do you know? It's possible, but 90+ years is a long time.

are parts available for a one ton ruxtull?

Ruckstell parts come from Chaffin's, but I don't know how many are for the truck version. I'd call and ask.
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:28 pm

Steve... all i mean by that is that the engine still has the 2-piece valves and most likely hasn't been rebuilt, same goes for the trans. Well they sure look like they haven't been rebuilt.


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:28 pm

And thank you!!

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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by A Whiteman » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:34 pm

Ruckstells usually can't get 'stuck' in neutral. If they do it could be the thrust plate breaking (as happened to me...)

If that is the case you may find another by asking around. A replacement may take a bit of machining, but it is a 'doable' repair without spending too much.

Even with the plate broken I still had drive in 'low' speed. So try changing the lever to engage each speed to see if that is the case.

The mechanism is probably well and truly gummed up with the old thick oil setting like treacle, and that may also be holding the change lever from working the gears.
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:39 pm

A Whiteman... I have tried moving the shifter, it moves into both positions with a sharp "snap" but still the wheels do not move.


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Burger in Spokane » Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:54 pm

Call Tom at the Antique Auto Ranch. He can help get that Ruckstell squared away
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:01 pm

The guy wants 2500for it. What do you think
The guy wants 2500for it. What do you think
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:02 pm

Dump bed
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by A Whiteman » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:14 pm

If possible, pull the Ruckstell apart, all will be revealed :-)
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Don't start the job until you have the MTFA Ruckstell book (available from suppliers). It is a very helpful guide to pulling down, repair and re-assembly of the Rucklstell.

Have a go, it looks like all around the world we are going to be stuck at home for a while, so something to do :-)

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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by perry kete » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:19 pm

Jonathan,

Did you buy the TT ? I think the asking price of $2500 is very fair. If you decide you don't want it please send me a message because I would be interested in it.

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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Dallas Landers » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:57 pm

Looks solid. Would be nice to see it on the road once again.


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by d stroud » Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:00 am

Well Jonathan, how did you come out on the TT? I too think that's a very fair deal, the doors alone would be worth a good portion of the asking price if they are as good as they look and that dump bed is very fixable with a bit of work. Keep us posted. Dave
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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by jonathan » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:34 pm

Due to the stay at home order, we can't go and get it yet! :(


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Scott Gilham » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:47 pm

Just tell the Police it's "Essential" that you bring home this TT.....


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Re: Looked at a TT today

Post by Burger in Spokane » Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:53 pm

Nothing good can come from this, you know ....

First, you'll plug up a bunch of space in the shop. Then you'll waste a whole bunch of
time and spend a lot of money. And all the while, you'll have this burning sensation to
go drive it about an waste more time !!! And it never goes away !

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