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I have one of those AWT CO. carburettors on my 1914 Metz Model 22. The engine starts well most of the time. The rare occasions when the engine is hard to start is usually on a very hot day after an extended period of driving. When running the engine runs very well and is quite responsive. My bigges...

Hi Stephen,
I have this rear cross member with the brackets intact. If you have not found one yet, please let me know and I will salvage it. Bill.

I was at Lang's yesterday to pick up an order. Business (mostly) as usual. Yes, a slightly reduced workforce due to Pandemic protocols, but they are taking orders and parts are going out of the door. Steve and Don were absent, being somewhere in New Hampshire getting a load of used Model T parts.

All three of the brackets are sold pending receipt of funds. Thank you MTFCA, Bill.

For Sale are three license plate brackets which attach to the radiator neck. Number One has a bit of damage, but is complete. Numbers Two and Three are undamaged but both lack the rear part of the clamp. $15.00 each plus shipping. If interested please send an email to: billsmodeltshop (at) gmail (d...

Back to the top with a lower price. Last try before the scrap pile.

For Sale is a pair of 1913-14 rear fenders. These fenders are solid but they do need some work. One is missing the running board flange. There are some splits. Both have received repairs to hold the fender iron brackets and only one bracket is present. One fender has a nifty aftermarket fender to sp...

For Sale is a 1915 hood. This is a tired, worn, and repaired hood. Someone repaired this with rivets and body filler. Has dents and dings. This might be just what you are looking for to put on your Barnyard Cruiser, or maybe it is Yard Art. $10.00 plus shipping or come pick it up. If interested ple...

Oh my Hank, that is beautiful! "Almost" too nice looking.

Don Allen (RustyFords) wrote: "my thermometer noted temps just shy of 100 degress" My goodness, isn't that WAY lower than Normal Operating Temperature (NOT) for a Model T? I had always understood that NOT was around 190 degrees. Running any engine colder that at its designed operating temperature r...

Well, you can add my name to the list of folks who's first car or truck was a Model T. I was introduced to the Model T in 1967 at the age of thirteen when we "woke up" the 1923 TT which my grandfather had put up on blocks in the barn in 1948. In 1970 I was able to purchase a very sorry 1924 TT chas...

I wish that I had seen this thread a week or two ago. I just now clicked on the link for the Metz for sale ad and it is gone. I guess that the car is sold. No, I don't need another Metz, but I would have enjoyed reading the description and studying the pictures. Dang, story of my life: A day late a...

Hi Alex,
I do have one. Please email me if interested. Located in southern New Hampshire. Thank you, Bill

Just tried to post pictures from this phone and I guess that I am not smart enough for this smart phone.

It would seem that this problem, while vexing, aggravating, and more than disappointing, does not happen often, thankfully. It is not a new problem. About fifteen years ago I bought a high flat tube radiator from Brassworks and encountered this very problem; the neck was in the wrong location resul...

Gasoline here varies from one station to the next and prices range from $1.88 to $1.95.

Kerosene is STILL at $4.25 per gallon. Boo, hiss.

Looking forward to more opportunities to give rides to my grandchildren.

Wash Your Hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxOJ7hh3H-I

In hope of perking up the spirit of forum readers, I am dredging up a tour report which I posted a few years ago. At that time a couple of folks liked it and perhaps you will, now, as well. Buck up, Lads and Lassies. We'll get through this! The link: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/8010...

Meanwhile, here in America:

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John, I am so happy for you that you found the AWT Co. name plate. They are hens teeth for sure. Your initiative to return to the seller and have another look certainly paid off. So, um, er, does he have any Metz bits kicking around? To Allan Bennett: Thank you for reminding me that Uncle Stan has ...

The Holley H-1 does look much like the American Watch tool Company's aluminum carburettor. I have no idea if any of the parts interchange. I can report that the float and float bowl gasket from a Holley G Do Not fit. It is my understanding that the Metz Model 22, introduced in 1912, came equipped w...

Thank you, Chad, for promoting this exciting event. For those of you who have never attended a Model T Snowmobile meet AND have the ability to get to this meet, GO! Riding in one of these wonderful machines is a hoot. If you can drive you Model T car to the meet, well, that will make the day comple...

I received my copy today.

It is Fantastic! Clear images on heavy weight paper. This is very nicely done.
I am quite pleased with this and I am sure you will be as well.

A big Thank You, Donnie, for producing these, Bill.

For Sale is a water outlet water pump. This has been on one of my shelves for years and it is time to move it along to a new home. There is no manufacturer's name present. On the left side there is "N C 1" , I don't know what that refers to. $60.00 includes domestic shipping. Please email me at: bi...

Hello Tim, Well, that does look to be "same church, different pew." Thank you so very much. I wondered if it was for "one of them Bow Tie cars." Now to see if it can find a new home. This forum and all of its members is a wealth of knowledge. Thank you again, Bill

Greetings All, This exhaust manifold heater shroud needs to leave my shelf for a new home. I have no idea what engine it is for. It is not for any Ford that I am familiar with. It looks to fit onto an exhaust manifold on the left side of the engine, given the orientation of the cast in letters. I l...

Hello Scott,

I will buy one of your Float Valve tools AND a float valve, too.

Sending an email as well. Thank you, Bill.

The Holley H-1 bears a resemblance to this carburetor made by the American Watch Tool Company of Waltham, Massachusetts. The big difference is that the body is made of aluminum. It has the same miserable style of float valve. I have done battle with it countless times, seldom with long lived succes...

Hi Mark,

There were a couple of posts about this topic on the old forum. There may be more. Here are two links. Enjoy. Bill

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/215469.html

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/41 ... 1420073941

Greetings All, I almost skipped this thread as I do not use a TW timer. I have nothing against them in any way, I just havent purchased one as I have working timers on my cars. This discussion of arcing and the burning of the insulating ring on the sides of the contact pad captured my interest as I...

Well, I did make my way out to where my HCCT is currently in storage. I could not make out any numbers on either side of the base of the machine. It has been painted and that may be obscuring any markings. Sorry. I did take a picture of it. I hope this is of some use. Thank you gentlemen for undert...

I have one which is somewhat buried at this moment. I will dig my way to it tomorrow and look for a number.

My humble offering from my collection:

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The book "This Was Trucking" contained several pictures by Darius Kinsey, a noted photographer of the period. He spent some amount of time in the Pacific Northwest documenting the logging industry. Here are two of those pictures. I think that the trucks may be Morgans. H1294-L15619861.jpg \ LogTruc...

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Hello Mack and Everyone, I, too, applaud your efforts to see if anyone is in need of that most interesting trunk and pickup bed. It reminds me of a similar, but earlier, unit seen at a swap meet by someone who posted pictures on the forum. I saved the pictures but, sadly, not the name of the poster...

When I went for a mid-winter's romp some years ago, to escape cabin fever and to shake off the dust, I found myself on this snow covered dirt road. There were a few slippery places and I wished that I had my Weeds with me. I got home without undue trouble.

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This is in beautiful downtown Keene, New Hampshire and just a two or three minute walk from Central Square. There is a similar wall sign quite close to this one, but I have no picture of it. I shall try to capture an image of that one in the next few days to post here. 18198997_10154636501801819_19...

If you are wanting to keep water, from the rain or from washing your Model T, out of the spark plug depressions you could find or fabricate one of these period accessory troughs which catch the water and divert it away from the engine. 102_0253.JPG Of course, after washing your car you do open the ...

Good Morning Donnie,

Please add my name to your list of those who want a copy. Thank you for undertaking this endeavour. Bill.

For Jim and others who have not been up close and personal with a Hand Cranked Coil Tester, they are heavy, top heavy, and unwieldy things. While there are several different styles regarding meter(s) and location of the coil receptacle, they all weigh about 100 pounds. HCCT Ford #18-Z-245.jpg They ...

The Old Timers always recommended to put brook water in the cooling system and never pond water. The pond freezes over but the brook never has. Look in the barn now for your Weeds. Are they where you hung them after last winter? Mount them BEFORE the snow gets too deep. 15781766_1361502210566507_29...

" I received an email of thanks from Melanie this morning... she's inundated..."

Wonderful! That is the best thing that I have heard all day.

I will highly recommend this book. There are only a few Ford Model T specific tips in this book. Most of it regards construction and function of non-Ford automotive engineering. The well written and very understandable information is a pleasure to read and quite rewarding. "Huh, so THAT'S how it wo...

Marty, I just love that story.
It will live on for decades and grow better with each retelling. Bravo!!

On our way to prison: 36271746_10100166759619634_4806028628531871744_n.jpg These grandchildren of mine call the grandfather on their father's side "Grandpa." They distinguish me as "Grandpa Model T." If we do not introduce children to our cars who will be interested in them after we are gone?

The sign on the RV indicates the New Hampshire vendor NH Snocar, started by Brian Moriarty:

https://nhsnocar.myshopify.com/

Bermuda Bell?

A few additional random snow themed pictures. 100_5830a.jpg R1-06626-018A_0001a.jpg The following pictures were taken years ago on the first day of spring. The precipitation was somewhere between wet snow and white rain. 199155.jpg Upper Arch Street at RR Tunnel .JPG I had taken the coupe out to ta...

I have never been to Chickasha. I did add it to my Bucket List when I began to create one a few years ago. I guess that I will now have to put together some sort of plan. There really are few items I truly need and seek, but it would be enjoyable to stroll the grounds and look. Meeting many of you ...

Here are a few additional pictures to offer encouragement for you Intrepid Motorists. This is just a few miles from my home. Near Stonewall Farm 010.JPG A trip to the annual Ice Harvest at Musterfield Farm in North Sutton, NH was a 115 mile round trip. 719669 (1).jpg The Snowmobile Meet in Tamworth...

Here in New England and, I suppose, other northern climes, the last organized tour of the season is called The Frostbite Tour as the day may begin with the temperature in the low to mid thirties. The day may warm into the forties or even the fifties. There have been a few balmy tours resulting in t...

Hello Martin et al, Ford DID use cotter pins, split pins on the strap carriage bolts and plain hex nuts. I apologise for the poor picture quality. I always appreciate all of the time and effort which you put into your drawings. Thank you, Bill Gas Tank Strap Hardware 001.jpg Gas Tank Strap Hardware...

Hi Richard, First, I don't have any gray tires, but I have replaced, just a few months ago, the all white tires on my Metz. They are PJA brand, size 30 x 3, and likely were mounted in the late '60s or early '70s when a previous owner restored the car. I have put maybe 250 to 300 miles on these tire...

Hi Jim, Foe? Um, Friend Of Everyone? Well, that's what I will run with. Drive the cars, HAH! I haven't driven the Model T since July 7th and the Metz not since July 13th. My health is okay. I have been up to my eyeballs with, um, er, well, "things to do." Be well and keep the shiny side up, Bill

Hi Mark, This battery box was only used on the passenger car and never on the truck. It was mounted on the running board. This was used only in 1919 and the trucks did not get the starter/generator package until 1920 at the earliest. The trucks used the same battery box as used on the cars in the b...

Hi Fred, That badge is from the MOALs. The Maine Obsolete Automobile League. Although the badge has the outline of a Model T radiator, I think that the club accepted all makes. I am not sure if they still are a functioning club and have meetings. Perhaps Mr. Google would know. Nice badge. Best Rega...

Hi Craig, If I recall correctly, Ford did supply that battery box in 1919 when they introduced the starter and generator on the closed cars. Apparently they didn't have ready the battery carrier and its box which we are so familiar with and, of course, the changes which would be required on the ass...

Steve's oil gauge:

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I have not traveled up this road to confirm the accuracy of this sign.

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Hi Dennis, Oh my goodness, that poor little car is LOADED! Is the rear suspension bottomed out? When you have a chance, could you share some pictures of the running board kitchen box and any other camping specific creations that you have on board? I am always on the lookout for ideas. I hope to do ...

Hi Robert, A few years ago an acquaintance bought a similar ('18 or '20??) Buick. Unrestored, very original and correct. It's engine was stuck, also. After some probing, he concluded that the waterpump was seized. On his car the the shaft from the distributor through the H2O pump and to the timing ...

I have shared these thoughts before: I do, genuinely, admire polished brass bits. I applaud the great amount of time, effort, and dedication which is needed to produce the brilliant shine, the warm glow, and the desired luster. I also understand that there is some therapeutic benefit to the time sp...

Hi Dave, Thank you for sharing the picture of the Rambler. It brought back memories of the two Ramblers which my parents had as my brother and I were growing up. There was a 1959 station wagon with those vestigial tail fins. Ours was light blue. Rambler 1959 627.jpg That car was replaced by a 1964 ...

As stated above, one can turn wood on a metal lathe. You can't turn metal on a wood lathe. You should try to keep the sawdust out of the "works." Cleaning that sawdust out of lubricated areas is a PIA. I often use aluminum foil to catch debris as it is created. It forms well to almost any shape and...

Wow Dave, that is quite a transformation!
Congratulations on a good looking job.

Ford DID use zinc hubcaps for a period of time during 1925.

Rich Eagle wrote: " Those Metz cars are delightful and seem like good cars when adjusted properly." Rich, I am so pleased to hear you say that. I think that they are good, decent cars when properly dialed in and not at all deserving of the lousy reputation they suffer from now. Metz won the 1913 Gl...

Hi Bob,

No, it is not a Metz radiator, well, it is not for the Model 22 or the Model 25. I can't speak to the later 6 cylinder cars, but I doubt that it would fit.

Could it be intended to be used with one of the period aftermarket speedster kits with a higher radiator shell?

I recently had to repair the muffler on my '14 Metz. On July 13th I drove the Metz to the annual Metz Gathering at the Waltham Museum in Waltham Massachusetts, that being where Metz cars were built. The round trip was about 150 miles. 0713191443a.jpg Well, as I was checking over the car a week late...

Hi Chad,

I probably have several of those brackets around here in the condition which you describe. I will look tomorrow.
I suspect that several would fit in a flat rate box. Yours for the postage cost. Good luck with your project, Bill

My grandfather bought this 1923 TT from the used car lot at the local Chevrolet dealer in 1930 for $25.00. It was sold new, as a chassis only, by Safford Ford here in Keene, NH to The Morgan Manufacturing Company, also in Keene, some time late in 1922 or very early in 1923. A part of the sales agre...

Hi Jon, The "coil" terminal of the ignition switch receives power from which ever side the key is turned to, that being magneto or battery AS FORD BUILT IT. For your application you could wire the fuel pump to "coil" and then turn the key to "BAT" to power the fuel pump. You WILL need a seperate sw...

Anything to be a bit more noticable.

Hmm. Hatfield, MA is about 50 miles south of me and "friendly" roads are available. It is doable. I am quite busy with, um, ah, other projects (I haven't touched my T since July 7th) and have been "telling" myself that I haven't got the time to attend a local show on that same day which often draws...

Oww Rob, boy, that got your attention. At our ages everything takes longer to heal compared to when we were younger. Some cars can be fitted with a self commencer easier than other cars. Some of us like to hand crank and some of us have to hand crank. Rolling down a hill and popping the clutch ofte...

Hi Dan,

I believe that what you have there ARE front radius rod ball cap studs used only on the 1909 and 1910 cars. I am sure that the Ford engineers had a good reason to make the change. Best Regards, Bill

Hello Robert, First, I do not own an Orient Buckboard, although I do have a Metz Model 22 and a Waltham made pocket watch. I have thought that the Orient buckboards look like they would be fun cars for a one and two cylinder car tour, possibly a good parade car, and grand fun for the local ice crea...

Hi John, The valve goes at the top. As to the the valve at the front or at the back, I have see it both ways in period photographs and on restored cars. I suspect that tank orientation was entirely owner preference and convenience. For some, it might have been easier to have the valve at the front ...

Hi Joe, Mine has the numbers " A T612 B 4 " and are on the early cast iron intake manifolds. As I understand it, Ford used the same mold for the first iron manifolds as they had been using for the aluminum manifolds. I will be installing this one on my Feb/March '14 touring 1914 Cast Iron Intake Ma...

Well, no and yes.
The grub screw for oiling the shaft is present. Part number 3980.
There are two different styles/shapes of fan blades.

Cartouche is owned by Mac's. I guess that you could call it a side or back room operation. And, yes, they do sell it to most of the Model T parts vendors.

Wow Don, that's Great!

Thanks for sharing, Bill

For Burger

It has been my understanding that the '24 and '25 model year coupe bodies were built by Budd.

Email sent

Hi Larry, First, I will state that I do not know. The picture below does not show that detail. 892197.jpg One can see that the line does sit inside the frame as it runs forward from its clamp, but the area of the wood block is not in the photograph. This pictures suggests that the gas line is routed...

Hi Shane, WOW! You have talent and moxie. Thank you for taking the time to photograph all of your work and then painstakingly create this photo essay of your work. Most impressive. I enjoyed meeting you last summer at one of the Epping flea markets.You described you speedster project to me and it so...

A few pictures of my grandkids.

Hi Jim (fozz71),

Your polished hubcap looks good.

Ford used zinc hubcaps for a while in 1925 and only in 1925. I don't think that they were one of Ford's "Better Ideas." Perhaps your caps are zinc?

I envy all of you with heated shops as I have no heat. Heavy sigh.

I am planning to attend. There is a bit of snowfall predicted for that area today. Tomorrow should be calm, but cloudy with temperatures rising to the low to mid thirties. It is a fun meet with a very good area for the snowmobiles to traverse and, of course, rides are offered. "Come On Down!" A pic...

I am not in the habit of naming my vehicles. At 64 years old I have owned more than a couple of cars and trucks and gave a name to only one: a 1966 Volvo P220 and I called it Ilsa, after the Ingrid Bergman character in the movie "Casablanca." My girlfriend thinks that all vehicles should have a name...

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