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where is the leak? And I know valve chamber, but where in the chamber? Initially, you said between 2-3, but have now repaired 4 places...are you able to see specifically where it is coming from? A gentle pressure on the block and some Snoop® Liquid Leak Detector will spot it if not obvious. https://...

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Probably safe bet it is missing its "exhaust" pipe for the now-heated air theoreticaly removed from the engine...

No doubt, some people and their money were separated by this thing.

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What a great story!

If the dealer has as good business sense as he does humor, he would indeed call local news for a puff piece.

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Kurt, I'd take two.

email sent

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Hi Bob!

good to hear from you!

News from FL about Suncoast T Club seems to be all good these days and I am happy to see that. Thanks for the ditty...I'd never heard that one before.

We still wear those lovely embroydered jackets your wife did...we love them. Tell her "Hi" from us.

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Perhaps I should not have posted the above but the term "racist" is tossed about by people often with a myopic view of a subject and zero belief that there could EVER possibly be a fundamentally sound reason for feeling or acting a particular way at a particular time. That term's use is overplayed a...

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Steve And LIncoln jailed journalists opposed to him and suspended Habeas Corpas...you got jailed and had no access to a judge...period. For younger readers who may not have learned in school or had living relatives who survived the period: History is littered with wrongdoings by well meaning and not...

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Let the Ultra Black cure over night before taking off of smoothe surface and then do other side. All in good time.

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clean the valve cover like you are doing. Apply Ultra Black around the perimiter and place the gasket on it. Lay the assembly on a surface plate or similar and lightly weight it. Let it cure and you'll be fine. When you assemble to the engine, grease the sealing boss on the engine, apply Ultra Black...

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I am definitly not the first to do this, but it has been a fun exercise in figuring things out, as well as being a satisfying turning exercise, and thought that somewhere some Walter Mitty of the Machine Shop would enjoy seeing. I also discovered during the process, that though the parts are simple,...

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Double thumbs up to Steve's comment

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Emails sent 1/9, 1/14, and spoke to Dave 2 weeks ago on the phone with a plan to hear back in a week (1 week ago).

Frustrating as I am guessing what I am looking for is now long gone.

Wishing everyone the best at Chaffin's and their customer base.

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Total Indicated Runout

The maximum excursion from a "0" point

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You would be fine with .004.

As important or even more important is the TIR of the output shaft after bolting onto the brake drum. You can have proper clearance on bushings, but if those bushings are not dead nuts, you will have more runout than the 4th main can handle.

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Ditto Wayne the blown 7's were remarkable and the film looked sped up. Other then the Rileys, I think the Buggati's sounded the most similar and brutally refined of the cars, and to think of how early they were compared to some of the others. I now understand why they are virtually cult classics...I...

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Jeff

you are absolutely right, and even at the best, I avoid night driving whenever possible.

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This is not to disuade you from your path. Just information to consider. For starters, the (purple) fluted lenses are not correct for your car. They look quaint, and someone stuck them in, but they're wrong. Original reflectors rob light. Replacement chrome reflectors rob light, age-tinted lenses ro...

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Not my T specifically, but made a batch of NH float valve tools. I ended up scrapping the "pin" design pictured, for a machined from solid and case-hardened design with a little heavier handle. Overall looks the same though. Wasn't happy with the cheapened design and went with what has worked for me...

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I know I am hoping for an answer yay/nay on my order from early last week.

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Les I am not sure why my link above did not go to the right place, but it indeed does not. I hope this link will go to the right place (at least I've tried it independently and it does). In 1920 Aluminum Manufacturers, Inc., formerly Aluminum Castings Co., was hoping to introduce Lynite forgings int...

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Scott

it is good of you to post this warning to Colin. No material with a copper content above 64% should ever be used. When it comes to acetylene, ALWAYS KNOW WHAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH.

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What a nice Tribute.

And the part about reusing aluminum foil really hit home! Both sets of my grandparents did that.

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It is little wonder why children of the depression often appeared so miserly with their money and "made do" with things when they clearly did not have to later in life. That kind of upbringing and experience can carry with you for life at best, or scar you for life at worst. I think it is amazing th...

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Any material removal will make them even more ineffective in panic use, and gain nothing in parking use other than to make the shoes have to expand even further to contact the drum, using precious cam availability. My opinion is there is nothing good to be gained by doing it and nothing bad in leavi...

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And some quick research shows that aluminum rods in the early days was Lynite, and was indeed drop-forged: https://books.google.com/books?id=mxlQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA306&lpg=PA306&dq=forged+Lynite+rod&source=bl&ots=CAg2zH_Il3&sig=ACfU3U0pxAe3KnfpwyQ6Vf37L7IN9BvWcQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj_x--V1ZfnAhXF3J4KHU...

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Les, this is not to pick a argument, but are you sure they are cast and not forged? That would be all the difference in the world. My concern is not with the material, but the manufacture of it.

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They're a great curiosity. I'd put them on the shelf. Those go back to a time before CNC machining. Machined rods from billet aluminum would be far better. And they're available. There is a reason every critical casting in Aerospace gets X-Rayed and a test coupon comes with them. Those may be wonder...

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Steve this is well beyond my knowledge/expertise, but long study of that picture leads me to believe you are correct in thinking it does not belong there. I would bet there should be a "pause" there...a flat spot on the shifter for that period of movement. It just doesn't look right...from lack of s...

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a little time in some water and it will be the size it's meant to be. It won't take long. At one time, that gasket WAS the right size...is't simply shrunk.

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Now, how fun was THAT?

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Les

I just reread your post. I didn't realize this was new. Probably missed a grind operation and I'd bet the supplier would gladly replace.

And Steve

I completely agree

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Tony I am guessing that as of July '13, no problems were found with the Beaudette bodies was indicative of the length of service and that they must have been marginally better, but the fact that you could buy the brace from Ford post purchase indicates to me at least, that regular service over month...

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Kenneth

interesting info about your car. Thanks for sharing.

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My experience has been that rear unbalance is all but undetectable under 35MPH. If I was to put in balance beads, I'd put 4oz in the rear and be done with it. On the front, it might be prudent to see if 4oz is even enough. After putting them in for others, I personally find the installation hassle a...

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Jeff, I would doubt that other years had similar very early introductions to new body styles. The 1913 was a significant design change and I consider it to be a particularly nice and interesting car...I have a Jan. 1, 1913 touring, myself. That said, the body design was a dud from robustness standar...

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Les

take a look at John Regan's response here: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/25 ... 1330324854

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To the top one time, then they're gone.

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You will need as a minimum, the same amount of weight (or more) as it takes to static balance your wheel on the car. So, with loose wheel bearing, if it takes 5 oz of weight to get the tire to not seek a particular spot, then you will need at least that amount in the tube. Due to the way the beads d...

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Everything is worn. Changing push rods means fitting them/reaming the boss' to match. To do that, you must pull the cam shaft. It and the bearings are worn...replace them, too? The cam gear will be worn...replace? Probably need an oversize cam gear since the new gear will not mesh well with the cran...

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Pull the valves, measure the guides. If necessary (and it will be), ream the valve guides to the next size up. Cut new seats with Neway valve seat cutters, buy new valves of correct stem diameter. Send new valves out to have seat angle reground (cheap insurance against shipping damage) and fit the v...

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I have used it and have reported results to the forum. It is GREAT stuff. I'd suggest that you buy the kit, and if the tank is really bad, buy an extra quart of the cleaner and extra gallon of the etch, separately. This will cover a larger area inside while processing, than a quart and will speed th...

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The Truth Is Out There...

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For me, they're red until I read them and then they turn blue. I have to "return to forum" at the bottom of the page (not use back arrow on browser) or hit refress (F5).

still working for me

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Steve

think about your reasoning on the oil holes being on top. If the oiler is on the centerline of the shackle bolt, oil will never exit the hole to lubricate the joint.

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Tim I remember a time when these were worthless. As a kid, my dad collected clocks (I later became a watchmaker for a period of time, years later) and in the 1960's there were two clocks that you didn't want to find in the pile of clocks bought out of garages and estates: Oak kitchen clocks and car ...

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Frank

on early shackles with the twist oiler, there is in fact a correct and an incorrect way to install them. Not just aesthetics, but right and wrong.

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I'm putzing around on a Stromberg OF, and have bought a couple more to rehab for myself. If you are doing the same and would like to refresh the throttle/choke plate screws, rather than reuse the old cruddy ones, take a look: Stromberg Throttle and Choke plate screws.gif Not sure there is enough of ...

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Excellent!

Welcome!

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The Part Number at regular suppliers is: 6212 That part is made with an orifice that is smaller than original, by a sizeable margin. It is fine for driving where high speeds are not sustained, or long hard hills are encountered. If either of those two conditions will be met by you, then you may want...

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My use of "periodically" was probably ill-advised. "Rare Occasion" would be more apt. Still, it happens. The casual mechanic may never encounter it, but do enough coil repairs, and you will run across it. Between iron core and primary, or between primary and secondary. Ohmeters will not catch this i...

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It is hard to believe this car did not sell in the US. The market is unfortunately as soft as I had feared. Even with customs and shipping, the new UK owner has likely scored a very good value, even if costs exceed its worth.

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Matt and Luke most anyone rebuilding coils and wishing to create high quality, long lasting and reliable coils will periodically run into a situation where using a Megger during the rebuild process is all but mandatory, unless their time has no value and they're happy with a rebuilt coil which will ...

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Tony it's nice that you guys lent a helping hand. As you implied, changing brands of timers is not a "one size fits all" situation. All that soot is undoubtedly from burning fuel far too late in the cycle to create an explosion. I've seen it numerous times. There often isn't even a detectable "pop" ...

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They do in fact look fine...just installed backwards Consider new lining material based on reverse band Purchase Repairing And Restoring The Model T Ford Transmission and also do some searching on the MTFCA forum for discussions on triple pin bushing clearance. Reading the book and studying the volu...

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Bruce, I read down through responses before I posted mine and I would do as you have suggested. I'd remove all of the remnants of the notches back to their root, to establish the "baseline" and silver solder a piece of curved brass into place, and refile the teeth with a triangular or similar, file....

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Don

asking this group for opinions is like asking a dog for fleas. You're gonna get 'em.

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Scott

I think that was an excellent route to take for aesthetics, safety, and (relative) ease of implementation's sake.

Thanks for sharing the results

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Thank you...I have just sent an email.

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Glen

I've called and not gotten through and left an email several days ago

How best can I place an order?

Thank you

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Glen

I've called and not gotten through and left an email several days ago

How best can I place an order?

Thank you

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It looks as if the removable bands have been ground on for clearance sake. They were installed backwards.

If I am correct in the tangs having been ground back, you will want to a) locate new old bands and b) install them with the removable ears on the driver's side

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after the perches are out is the time to press, twist, and otherwise slug it out with the axle. You will really want to do this when they're out: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/17 ... 1323767931

You will find out if the car was ever towed by the axle. If it was, then it's bent.

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1/2 of the cost to restore a similar car purchased "cheap" for $4K meaning, this car at $7500, is 1/2 the cost of the complete restoration of (some other) car purchased for (let's say) $4K. I guess I could have been more clear the first time around. Black T prices are trending downward and that is ...

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This appears to be a screaming deal and could put you into the hobby at 1/2 of the cost to restore a similar car purchased "cheap" for $4K. https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=9327 The most expensive T you can afford will turn out to be the cheapest in the end. Hit the road and start ha...

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First, see Wayne's photos of his runabout and you'll see his seat shelf sits well forward of yours and has all 3 bracket bolts going through it. This is where I mentioned you may have to shorten the 2 longitudinal body forming pieces which run along the top and bottom of the main rail. Here's the sa...

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Order some catalogues to have in hand. Body styles will be shown in the section where TOPS are sold. This will start showing you the differences in profiles or "looks" of the car. You mentioned this would be your first car. If by that you mean "first antique car" then that's fine. If you mean "my fi...

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and these:

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Mike

not out to shop yet but found these:

underside

joint

finished joint

sheet metal wood waiting for skin

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Mike it's all covered over now, but let me have a go at it and see what it is tomorrow Now, some things may have to be translitterated...the Miller plans used thinner material in some places than the actual wood was (I planed mine to correct thicknesses in each case). My point is that the seat riser...

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Robert sometimes those repro wrenches need to be kissed on a belt sander or a grinding wheel. I have an original wrench which fit an old nut just fine, but because I tour and wanted to carry a wrench (and not an original pristine one) I bought a repro wrench. Wouldn't fit the nut. Huh. Ground the su...

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Steve

I really like that cage. It's hard to impress folks how much energy is stored up and the potential human and shop damage that can occur with unfixtured parts if they get away under load...particularly with parts of this length. Kudos to you for a well thought out design. Thanks for sharing.

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Has taken awhile for my neurons to work properly. I seem to recall that the Miller plans showed the main rails at two different lengths in two different places on the drawings which caused great consternation. Your talk of how far back the rear part is from the crossmember jogged my memory. I left m...

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Thank you all for your responses. This first order will go ahead.

I will commit to making tools to fill requests up to Terry Miller. Further requests will be put on a waiting list, which hopefully will be filled without too much delay.

thank you all for looking

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John in Illinois you will solve the problem you're asking about. The following is for you after that: 1. you MUST measure the axle with proper and accurate tools to be CERTAIN that the diameter will give the proper press fit. Axles are often large by a thou or two and have very small burrs that will...

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Adam

that has got to be the best answer I've ever seen given for this sort of question

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Life is good

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This will install or remove my Full Flow Float Valve or the common commercial valve offered by vendors for your NH or Vaporizor carburetor. It will NOT work correctly on original valves as the pilot is a different size, nor will it work on Grose Valves. They come out with a screwdriver anyway, with ...

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Turn the engine over slowly by hand and have a helper shine a light on the roller assembly. Soon enough, a headed pin like a precision nail will present itself and you pull that out. That aligns the roller to the proper timing on the camshaft and that is what that funny washer is keeping in place.

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Here is the front of my sill. In your imagination, overlay the front of your all-wood sill over my wood/metal front end and you'll see that the metal side is able to swoope in where yours will be forced to bulge out too soon. As an edit, now that my pictures posted and can quickly compare to yours, ...

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The front end of the sill looks too blunt to me. If it is, it will push out the side panel too soon and use length to make that transition. I suspect that if it was less blunt, it would shift back some in the back. I first set my firewall pillars and then the cowl/door hinge pilars. Level the cowl. ...

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Ignacio

this is a creative and fun way to follow you along in an afternoon rather than spread over 3 years. Congratulations to you and very clever to post this.

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It looks like work was done on sheet metal on passenger's side. There is some slim chance it's wrong. I'd be inclined to work driver's side first since it's much sturdier than the side with the door. I had to go to great pains and make jigs, etc to fixture the door so that all would be good when I r...

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There should be a gap between the sill support wood (the wood plank screwed to the face/side of the main beam) and the seat riser. The sill metal wraps around it and the body metal wraps around the seat riser. The two metal pieces fit tight against each other. That gap in the wood allows the two she...

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Nice Matt
very pleased for you

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Should look like this. Note picture #3...I rejected this as an error as I removed material near the top which would have left a gap between the body and the trunk...this part got remade and I failed to take that picture...I did my own wood so had no one to blame but myself. You will be hanging metal...

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Good that you are acquainted with working brass. Just know that you're used to working with brass that is alloyed for what you're doing, and this has a very different grain structure than you're used to. It will kick your butt if you're not careful. Knowing brass gives you a leg up but be careful to...

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anneal, let it cool to room temp, bend a very little bit...repeat a lot of times

multiple annealings followed by thorough cooling during the process is mandatory, in my experience. It takes very little material movement for the metal to become very brittle again.

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Running the "better" foot switch in my cars. Many thousands of miles over 10 years. Correct sized cables, efficient starter and never a failure. Solenoids are not on my list of "must haves". Gather a group of 150 cars on a National Tour. Figure that some small percentage will have a solenoid. At the...

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Being energy independent as a nation for the first time in many many years, common sense says that ethanol has had it's day. Though not particularly easy to locate on the web, the EPA issued a report that ethanol is in fact doing the opposite of what the environmentalists claim: https://www.publicne...

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I would bet that the clerk typed in "car hauler" and the system logged it in as an enclosed trailer. Too bad they didn't code "utility".

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Would like to see how he'd get it up on the table...

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Tim

imagine in a few years if that boy rejects his gender and assumes a new one...then those acres would have been burnt for nothing!

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Mack, I have one comment. It is not a criticism, as you have built a lovely trailer...it is a safety warning which I hope you take to heart: Your extension springs need a containment device for safety...(!!!!!). If ever the springs let loose, at best they will cause damage and at worst, serious inju...

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Doug

welcome!
nice to see more "guests" becoming registered users.

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Jim as a kid, I did what you did, for my dad's T. Just couldn't believe it didn't have an air cleaner. After installation, our experience was just the same as yours. Performance suffered, and these are not cars that have a lot to spare. Others disagree and claim to have seen no performance degradati...

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Nice looking car, Mark

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Mark there may well be a need to check the link, but too long or too short, the low pedal has to go over-center for it to lock in place. The link will not prevent this or cause this. Only excess forward pedal travel will cause this and that is only due to excessively loose low band or worn out pedal...

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George I've seen you post some great metals stuff, but I'm not feeling this one. Super good bushing material, but from a design standpoint, I myself wouldn't make a shaft out of it. Now you're having to make hardened rockers and ultimately deal with a worn out shaft rather than knocking out some wor...

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low is so loose that it goes over-center with the high speed clutch linkage. Give the low band adjuster bolt a full turn and resecure the lock nut (bolt on passenger side of hog's head that has two flats on it). It was either too loose as adjusted after bands were done, or low drum is cracked and is...

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