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We drove ours to Walt's Chicken Shack and got some take-out then went to a local park to eat our supper. Nice evening ride and good meal.

I'd like to know how many serial numbers are between ours and the 5 millionth one.

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Model Ts aren't supposed to have distributors.

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Our '21 Touring will be 99 years old tomorrow, the 28th. I hope the weather will be nice so we can go for a drive.

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Since I was in 4th grade, I have always wanted a Model T Ford as a daily car. They're just beautiful machines, what can say. Well, fast-forward 6 years and I am now on the fence between a Ford Model T going 45 mph and a Ford Model A going 65 mph. It's hard to choose between vintage qualities and re...

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My wife and have ridden the '21 touring some, just waiting for the guy to call saying he's ready for me to bring it to get the top installed.

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Years ago my cousin's husband and I went, in my car, to buy three small pigs. The seller caught the three we picked and put them in burlap sacks, tying the sacks closed. We put the sacks in the rear floor of my car and started home. A short way down the road I checked the rear view mirror and found ...

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This is the one I meant to post earlier.

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My reply might be a little OT but we went to drive-in church last Sunday, in our Model A. Here's a pic thru the windshield of the preacher in the bed of a truck. He was wearing a mic.

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I went to the local NAPA store and bought a gallon of Ru-glyde. That should be a life time supply at my age.

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I've had both front tires off and back on the wheels on the front of our '21Touring at least once each, maybe twice on one. I found that Go-Jo hand cleaner worked very well for mounting lube. I'm now dealing with at least one rear, maybe both. I wonder if the hand cleaner would work too well on rear...

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A good spring cleaning/reorganizing for my garage is way overdue. I need to make a place for everything and put everything in it's place. I've had a spare flywheel and magneto for quite some time,as well as a transmission shaft. I think the smart thing to do would be to build a HCCT. I've looked at ...

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Almost looks "cartoonish" doesn't it?

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I suggest that those of us that have other interests besides Model Ts try to get in the habit of visiting the OT category often, and liven it up a bit. Those not interested can stay on the T page and be happy. James and Robert be prepared to get blasted for posting this. I can almost predict by whom...

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You can pinch your fingers and hands easily when trying to use those as a screwdriver. Ask me how I know.

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I'm wondering if somehow when I was wrestling the too-long stem into the tire, the bridge washer might have turned sideways, thus holding off the tire beads from the rim? Maybe I will find out when I break it back down.

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I did pretty much the same as Mr Carter in his how-to. My tube looked like the one in pic 6b when I took it out. Only thing is, the only stems I had were probably truck stems and were about 5" long. I had a little trouble getting the tube back in, with the long stem and might have "disturbed?" the s...

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I had a flat on the rear of our '21 Touring yesterday just as I got home with it. The rear tubes have rubber stems in them and the one that failed was because the stem broke off at the base. I removed the tube and put in a metal(brass) stem, like I have done earlier on both fronts. I used a bridge w...

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Judging from starter ring tooth "decay" I believe most engines, at least all that I have ever had experience with tend to stop in the same place, give or take a few teeth. I've known of folks removing ring gears from flywheels, turning them to a less worn spot and reinstalling them. A lot of work, b...

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I got our '21 Touring back together after replacing all eight valves. We rode it some and it seems fine. I got 11 free starts in a row the first day back together. Now I will start doing what I can to prepare it for the top installation. I have a top kit and have talked to a man not far from here in...

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I can look at pics like the middle one all day long. But I can't understand why anyone would want to make a T look like the car in the first pic. It's an acquired taste thing I guess, and in my three score + years I haven't acquired it. Oh well, to each his own, live and let live.

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I've got a free start from time to time with our '21 but today after I cleaned the timer and plugs when I got in it to go for a ride I got 11 free starts in a row. Then I "bumped" the starter with the switch off, tried it again and got 4 more. Several hours later I went out to the garage and got in ...

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I got the new valves in our '21 Touring and got the manifolds to stop leaking, after having them off and back on three times. Today I cleaned the plugs and the New-Day timer and it runs good again. I first thought maybe I should have set the valves a little closer but now that I fixed the exhaust le...

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The time came to reattach the exhaust pipe to the manifold today. I found that the plumbing wrench that I bought for .50 at the local flea market worked fine. Tomorrow I will clean the yellow paint off and "restore" it, giving it the attention it deserves.

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Guess I'll be ok 'cause I never took none of them wooden nickels Papa always told me not to.

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My manifold gaskets came from Lang's so I had planned to start Monday morning and finish putting the T back together. While cleaning the intake and exhaust ports with a wire brush on my grinder I also went across the core/expansion plugs. I'm glad I did because the center one showed to have a hole i...

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If you look closely you can tell that the head is a newer( '28) model. The '19 head would have one exhaust port, making for a unique manifold. The manifold on the engine in the pics of the car I posted is "home made". I believe '28 Chevrolet heads are a one year only and the only ones that are used ...

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This is for sale near me. I'm tempted. It's a 1919 Chevrolet 490.
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Forgive me Henry.

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I put the last 4 valves in today & cleaned the block & head to prepare for installing. Waiting on the manifold gaskets coming from Lang's. It's been apart since October.

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depressing photo.

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I got 4 of the valves back in. Halfway there! Ordered a new manifold gasket set from Lang's. I have a new head gasket already.

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We've had our '21 Touring since Sept 2016. 0910162001 (1).jpg Here is the first pic I ever took of it when I found it on a trailer for sale in a parking lot of a steak house in Pigeon Forge TN. 0204171256.jpg Here it is sometime later on the day it was ready for the first start up of the rebuilt eng...

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I went back to the garage and worked on it some more before I waited on a response. I had let some water spill down into the valve openings when removing the head and failed to blow it all out I suppose. The guide in #4 cylinder must have had a little rust formed in the weeks since tear-down. I wrap...

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Sometime ago a valve failed in the engine of our '21 Touring. I am replacing all 8 original valves that were reused when the engine was rebuilt. I am now able to work on it again and have all the valves adjusted except for #8. I have not installed the springs,washers, and pins yet and will have to d...

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As much as I like the extra "insurance" that turn signals provide, especially after dark, I cannot bring myself to install them on our '21 Touring or our '28 A Coupe. I hate the look of ANY add-on lights. They ruin the looks of the cars, in my eyes. If I find some magnetic or clamp-on lights that co...

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I used to be rather talented myself, 50 years ago. Probably not nearly as good as this guy though. I'm too shaky to draw a round wheel now. :( I'm gonna have my grandson watch this video with me when he's here again in a few days. We've bought him all the art supplies he has ask for and will get mor...

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My oldest grandson is an artist. I want to encourage him all I can. This is not him but this is good.

https://youtu.be/OeZi-OzKxMk

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For that kind of money I could buy a complete T, with a body.

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Our church leadership decided to cancel the usual Sunday school/Bible study and just have worship service, advising we forego the usual hugging and handshaking and go with elbow bumps instead. I can understand precautjons being taken in times like these, and I know that there will always be those am...

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I just noticed the banner that read "This is a Model T website " is missing. Just saying.

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I found a better heater that we had for our T. (thanks Larry) I had found a case of the genuine Clark fuel bricks some time ago.

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I too would like to have one of each. If anyone finds a good place to see a list of what was made please post a link. Thanks.

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My '52 Massey Harris Pony tractor uses a Continental 4 cyl engine.

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I need a brass carb, internal parts not necessary, for a display engine only, external parts/linkage would be nice. What do you have?

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For those who have adjusted valves in a T with adjustable lifters, have you found that the 10 degrees per turn of adjustment gets .001 adjustment to be true? I'm curious. I suppose only if the lifter is threaded 3/8x24 tpi ? Knowing that would make things a little quicker once you determine approxim...

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Makes me think,I'd like to stumble on a barn find deal in a Corvette. I would sell that thing and buy two or three more Model Ts!

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From either side that is a beautiful engine.

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Every time I need something for our Model A I wish Lang's had Model A parts. They're my go-to for T parts, like I said in an earlier post.

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I wonder if the tester could have driven it?

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2019080495134430.jpg This past summer I posted pics of my 9 and 11 year old grandsons both taking their first drive in our '21 Touring. I think they both gained at least one hat size that day. Papa was sure proud. Our 3 year old was ready to take his turn but we thought it better to wait another ye...

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Too much "butchery" depresses the crap outa me.

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Email sent.

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A good friend has a timer relocator that I am going to go have a look at. He's pretty sure he has the gear for the cam. I hope so. I guess the relocator isn't worth anything without it. He thinks it includes a "modern looking" distributor cap and wires. That part I don't much like. I really don't wa...

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I've been lazy, and busy with other things over the Christmas holidays and haven't got the new valves put in our '21 Touring yet. I have the head off and the old valves out already. The stems have been cut on the new valves and I have tried two or three and found that I will have enough adjustment w...

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Sellers should know that potential buyers, like me, can often detect a bad attitude or just a crappy personality in general by the wording of the ads. One seller on here I have seen has had some stuff several times that I would probably have bought but I'll be danged if I'll deal with him because of...

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I've been dealing with Lang's for about 3 years and the service has always been great.

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I've been meaning to try Evaporust for quite some time, but have not. I've sandblasted and used electrolysis with success for years on car parts, tools, garden tractor parts, Coleman lantern & stove parts, and other "stuff". My favorite local hardware store( actually the only one I shop at) has a 5 ...

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While watching the videos of the current, and the prior, southern California Holiday Motor Excursions it occurred to me that I sure hope some of the participants can drive their vintage vehicles better that they can park them. Next time you watch one see what I mean.

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It looks to me like someone was cleaning in up on a lathe and got a little careless.

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Personally, I'd like to see an absence of alcohol and rain. Seems like here locally around Christmas or New Years a family gets destroyed by a drunk driver every year. I hate to say it but it's true. In my opinion, bring back Prohibition.

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My handicap makes it difficult to access the timer on our T.

I believe I could service it much easier when necessary if it was relocated higher.

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A friend has a timer relocater, I guess. He was calling it a distributor but says you reuse the four original coils with it, so I'm guessing it must be a relocater(or?). I'm thinking about going to have a look at it. Anybody running one? You like it? Seems like a good idea to me.

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Good for you Allan. I hate to see them converted if they can't be "unconverted".

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I had actually thought about something like that. I might hit Harbor Fright tomorrow and see what I can find. I have some small(ish) needle nose vice grips but there might be something smaller and/or better.

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I just ordered all new valves for our '21 Touring after the #1 exhaust valve failed. The engine is a fresh, complete rebuild but the previous owner/rebuilder chose to recondition and reuse old valves. I am replacing them with new, one piece valves, after I had my local machine shop cut .050 off the ...

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I had seen only a few seconds and still shots of this video before. I love seeing more of it. Seeing all the Ts and T era cars is great and I love Henry's Quadracycle. I have studied pictures and videos of it for years and would love to build/own a good replica of it. The one "modern" addition I wo...

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I can't help thinking "what a shame". I'd like to have that body they took off!

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Good for you! Let's see more of the plane.

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Nice find. You might pay more for the headlights (and other things you need), than I paid for our complete '21 Touring!

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Here is a small transmission. A4F98B4B-1B77-433F-8229-9FCCABBD239D.jpeg Is it worth finding a home for these? 1FB2AA34-49B4-41ED-8D29-63E731A45985.jpeg Thanks! Matt You ask "Is it worth finding..." Well if you mean will it put money in your pocket, probably not so much, but it would be a shame to s...

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Yeah, he knows how to work on Model T & Model A generators and starters for the locals and even stocks parts for them.

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The generator has not worked on our '21 Touring in the 3 years since we've had the car. I've just been charging the battery monthly and putting off getting it fixed. Now the generator on our '28 A Sport Coupe has quit working too. I suppose I'll take them both to the local starter/alternator/generat...

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I just rewatched Mike Bender's video on installing valves and he said the norm is to have .100 taken off of new valve stems. Maybe I should call my machine shop guy in the morning and tell him to go .100?

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I got all eight new , replacement valves and found that, I believe, the stem to guide fit is good, but as-is with the lifters adjusted all the way "down" I had little or no clearance on some. Today I took all eight new valves to the machine shop and left them with him to get .025 ground off each ste...

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Problem is- remove more later means remove valves, replace gaskets, and another trip to the machine shop.

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The other seven valves came and I removed a few more of the old ones. I find that some valves have as little as .006 clearance with the adjustable lifters "run all the way down". Not knowing how much adjustment is available in the lifters but knowing that the valves will "sink" some as they seat in,...

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I get notification that I have a message from you, but no message content.

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I looked again and found "my other" valve spring compressor that will work on a T, then went to the local flea market and bought a Sunnen brand one that works even better, for $3.00.

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Anybody got a homemade valve spring compressor that works well on Ts? 'Specially one that will work on an engine with the manifolds still on. Let' see it, please.
Or, recommend a good "store bought" one. I've had an old one for years that , as it turns out, is obviously not for a Model T.

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1919 or not, if it runs and and has no serious mechanical problems, and has clean paperwork, and if the price is reasonable I wouldn't hesitate to buy it. It looks great!

Matter of fact- I have a nice '28 Model A coupe that I'd trade for it!

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20190929_131017.jpg 20190921_164347.jpg 20190921_163808.jpg The A runs and drives well. I would probably never find another as good as it if I trade it. It is an older restoration. I don't know exactly how old. I bought it from a friend that had owned it for three years and only driven it five or s...

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Recently we bought a '28 A Sport Coupe. I've already had thoughts about trading it for, or selling it and buying another Model T. We already have a '21 Touring so I'd like to have a different body style, maybe a closed car. I've found a '27 Tudor that is a pretty good looking, restored car. I really...

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My new (one) valve finally arrived today. It fits the guide fine. I believe the tappet will take up enough so I won't have to grind the stem.

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My new valve has not arrived yet but I found my micrometer and the stem "mikes" .312 so I should be able to use seven more like the one I have ordered. I have misplaced the keeper/pin that came out of the damaged valve and I don't really want to use the available replacements after what I've heard a...

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I will grind the stems if necessary but I don't have a liquid cooled grinder. I will buy a new stone for my bench grinder if that will get the job done. What kind of stone do I need to buy? :?: Meantime, can someone show me a good pic of valve seats, without any valves in them. I want to see if mine...

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I have heard/read that the pin style keepers (as original) that are offered by suppliers now are not hard enough and prone to fail so old ones should be reused. Can anyone confirm this info? Or, will replacement valves with split keepers directly replace my old valves? If I replace all the valves, a...

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There is no way I can "go back" on the rebuilder. I bought the car as-is about three years ago. The price was right enough and I did not get receipts for the engine rebuild on any of the other parts that were obviously new on the car. The seller was selling the car for the widow of the late owner wh...

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I guess I'm gonna need a bigger bottle of MMO. Here is the #1 exhaust valve out of our T. I'm ordering a new valve from Lang's today.

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Fordwright, you are certainly not alone. I too prefer 'em like they came. I DISLIKE rat-rods and T street rods, even T street rods when fiberglass bodies are used. I'm not real crazy about speedsters either. Seems like a waste not to build a whole car. I can appreciate Ts that are left "as found" bu...

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I found the reason for #1 not working. I removed the front side cover and turned the engine thru a few revolutions, with the hand crank, and found that the #1 exhaust valve is not closing. The engine is a fresh rebuild with 50 hours or less on it and has never given any hint of such trouble, until n...

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I took time to move a couple of coils around today. No change still strong spark on all cylinders but grounding out # 1 makes no difference. More checking tomorrow.

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I drove our '21 Touring yesterday for the first time in about six weeks. It ran good for about a mile on the way to the local store but not so good on the way home. I found, by grounding the plugs with a screwdriver, one at a time, that # 1 was not up to par with the rest. The spark looks strong and...

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We're thinking about buying this '28 A Sport Coupe.

It has a little more pinstriping than I would have put on but I can probably live with it. It runs, drives, and stops great.

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People don't realize that the problem with in car videos is like being a sled dog.. the scenery doesn't change unless you're the lead dog.

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The best word on graphics on a T is DON'T, but it's your car so do what you want.

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Good decision to leave it alone, Mike. Stick to your decision. You'll be happier in the long run.

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I'm planning to build a horseless carriage, like might have been done by a shadetree mechanic/builder around the turn of the century, from an Amish built buggy I have. The major modification, of course will be the front axle and steering, and the addition of a motor and transmission. The center pivo...

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I've been told that our '21 Touring is the only one with a drivers side airbag. Reckon what they mean?

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Thanks Rob.

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