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Price is reduced - $350 plus the ride.

Campbell,
Thanks for the offer. But if you call up Mike at Classtique Upholstery, you'll find that new side curtains start at $1,350.... and just go up from there depending on the material you select. I think my asking price is more than reasonable so I'm sitting tight.

I have a set of Cartouche Side curtains for sale that will fit a 1915 through 1922 Touring car. The eyelets are brass for 15/16 as opposed to nickel for later years, but they can be changed out if you so desire. This set is about 20 years old but in excellent shape and still very soft and pliable. T...

The tires are sold, pending payment. Thanks David, and MTFCA!

I have three, never used 30 x 3.5 Non-Skids for sale. I'm not sure how old they are but they soft and pliable and show no cracking. I bought them for my Maxwell but I am selling the car so I don't need them. Prices is $500 for all three. Considering these are 400 bucks each nowadays, it's a bargain....

Still looking!

Craig... Oh, man... Thanks for the laugh!! I'm proud of me too!

And as far as the water pump is concerned, I have them on both of my Model T's. They make a difference in these West Virginia mountains!

I've had my unrestored 1915 touring for 20 years. I don't know how many miles we've toured, but I've run the wheels off it. In that time, I've had to pull the radiator and fix small leaks every 3 or 4 years. In 2019, I decided I'd had enough of that and made some changes that appear to have worked. ...

Dan - That's precisely why I posted this and why I want to see a photo of the actual tire they sell for my size. I can't trust the stock photo!!

Dan/All, See attached. This is from the sellers on Ebay. This looks like a solid letter to me. :( Here is the Ebay link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/175280456122?_skw=Non+skid+tires&epid=28012334532&itmmeta=01JCBBVBHBNXW2KQYVB4P886CQ&hash=item28cf8781ba:g:Bq0AAOSw-8VmBea8&itmprp=enc%3AAQAJAAAA8HoV3kP08...

Dan... Thanks. I tried to manipulate those photo's but wasn't able to get the clarity. I didn't want to spring 400 bucks and end of with a mis-match, but that does look correct!
Jim

I am trying to find a match for three older, BLACK, 30x3.5 non-skid tires I have. Can someone (who has bought new Non-skid's in recent months from the suppliers) please take a clear photo of the side wall font style, and post them here for me? It would be very much appreciated. I have sent two email...

Thanks for the link to Antique Auto Top hardware, but they don't have the design I am looking for. I don't want to drill into the seat back. I want to attach to the tack strip like in the photo's above.

Thanks for the lead, Gary.
Allan, many of the front tack strips are good since the roof was over them. The one in the pic is from a 1913 T I had years ago and the tack strip was fine. It was very rigid and held the weight of the Chase blanket just fine.

I'm looking for a robe rail for my model T. I don't want to drill into the front seat back. Whatever I buy must attach to the wood tack strip that the front seat upholstery attaches to. The robe rail in the pictures is perfect because it not only attaches to the wood tack strip, but the design is su...

All... thanks for the replies. It is a completely factory engine with cast iron pistons, and std bore. 13 years ago, I re-ringed the engine and installed stainless vales with oversized stems. The noise is internal and can be heard with a long screwdriver to the ear. When the car was put into hiberna...

Anyone ever had a knock that you only hear when the engine is cold, and only when you advance the spark? So, my 15 touring has 20 years with me in the seat. This is a tour proven car. Anyway, I spent two years sick and the car never moved. My health has improved so I took it out a few times this sum...

After 40 years at NASA, the one thing I have learned to trust, is empirical data. And this is where I run afoul of the current belief in the Model T community that "1913 cars were dark blue". Show me the ORIGINAL, UNRESTORED cars that are undeniably blue.... From what I have seen, and based on discu...

Pictures of the throttle rod and spark rod adjustable ends on my unrestored 1915 Touring, no. 679,2xx. Adjustable ends are at the steering column side. The rods appear to be bare steel and there are no jamb nuts. There are two different adjustable swivels - the timer rod has a ball joint with a nut ...

Larry, if that car had been on the east coast, it would have ended up in my barn!

Kim... If you don't mind sending four more my way, I'll take 1,2,3 and 4.

Now you just need a firewall and radiator and you can get her running!!

thanks Andrew. I know Tracy and Jeff well. I will contact them.

Thanks Wayne!

Awesome.. thanks Allan.

The other day, I tried to push some grease into the left rear Hyatt bearing on my 13, and it wouldn't take any. So, I pulled the grease cup to find a blockage. Thinking the old bearing sleeve slipped/rotated, I pulled the wheel only to find that a floating hub had been installed in the left rear - a...

I am researching the history of my 1913 Model T I just bought. It spent its entire life in East/Central, Pennsylvania and was owned by Carl Rustine of Stroudsburg, PA from 1953 until just a few years ago when he passed. Prior to that, it was owned by William "Billy-Buck" Zellner, a confectionary sto...

I have one of the earliest known Touring cars, (engine assembled in late January) and the car has many 1914 features. Regardless, the car is basically unrestored and has been in constant service for its entire life. The steering wheel on this car is of one-piece construction with about half the orig...

Kim, that is perfect. Talk to you then. Thanks!

I am looking for a correct set of brass hubcaps for my 1913 Touring. The attached photo shows the 1913 details very clearly. Note that the letters are very delicate compared to later caps which have much thicker letters and script. Also notice that the horizontal bar that is midway up in the letter ...

Stan - I blew up the upper left quadrant of the sanded area to the point where I could see the image at the individual pixels. The black fender is still seen to the left. Under magnification, the blue color of the original paint really starts to pop whereas the black fender to the left remains uncha...

Dan - They did use a red oxide in 1913 according to Bruce's book. I don't have it in front of me but it's in the 1913 section where he talks about the paint process.

Stan, I didn't know if the black layer under the green was from a previous paint job or if they put down red primer, a basecoat of black, and then a topcoat of dark green. Either way, that is how the colors stack up. Depending on what lighting is used affects how the color shows up. Add to that, the...

George - I took your advice and sanded a small area. I started a new thread (1913 Ford Touring... If it ain't green, what is it?)
I think it's safe to assume the car wasn't green based on the one sanding experiment I did. Here's a photo, but the description of what I did is in the other post.

Closing out my previous thread about the 1913 Touring I just purchased which was painted Dark green about 70 years ago, I took George Mills advice and found a discreet place in the front door jamb and started sanding. I didn't go wall the way to 2000 grit, but I did finish up with 800 and then rubbi...

Great conversation and thanks to everyone who has replied. I've been searching a little harder and I have found some spots that have "green under green". The largest area is the wood at the bottom of the doors where the top layer is flaking off. I have found no dark blue anywhere but have found blac...

Russ/Wayne/All.... Thanks for the comments and opinions. Keep them coming. This is the second 1913 I've owned. I bought it because last year, I sold the first one I had bought and I regretted it the minute it rolled down the driveway. Fortunately, I know where it is and it's in good hands. Anyway, I...

Stan - Thanks for the comment. And the accolades on the car. :) The only thing that makes me wonder is that most repaints back in the day didn't worry about doing a nut-and-bolt type restoration. Meaning, if this car was painted in 1920, the painter wouldn't have worried about taking the car apart t...

For years, 1913 Model T's were thought to be dark blue. Then, it became more understood that many of the later cars were black. There are many restored dark blue cars that were actually black from the factory, but were painted blue based on what was known at the time. Last week, I purchased the earl...

What is the spacing between the mounting bolt holes?

Thanks John! I am looking forward to relocating the car to its new home in West Virginia.

Hi John... I sent you another email.

Ed/All, Thanks for the replies! That was very helpful. I have a spare 15 engine sitting here that I am thinking about rebuilding, while I leave the other in the car. I have the notched coil sitting here as well, along with all the other parts. I know the day is coming where cranking by hand will com...

I am considering adding a starter to my unrestored 1915 Touring car sometime in the future. The question is; if I decide to install a flywheel with a ring gear, do I have to automatically have to install the cast iron hogs head for clearance? Or, if I don't want to make the conversion right now, wil...

We are less than two Weeks away from Luray!! Yes, the 10th annual Mid Atlantic Prewar Swap Meet is literally days away! And the current long-range weather forecast is showing perfect weather with partly sunny skies and temps in the upper 60’s! You can’t ask for a better time of year to walk a swap m...

We are less than two-months away from Luray!! (May 10 & 11 for the Swap meet, and May 12-14 for the MTFCI Spring Regional Tour!!) I am bringing: Model T engine parts Dodge Brothers Model T Front axle 1918 Coil Box - beautifully restored. Nice looking Black - n - brass era, Brass Radiator Various ot...

It is unfortunate that Chickasha is winding down. Everyone's always welcome at Luray.

Just had the Shenandoah valley Racket T'ers club meeting on Saturday night and plans for the Luray Swap Meet are falling in place. Almost half of the dealer spaces are now spoken for and they are going fast! Reserve your space now so you don't miss out on the fastest growing swap meet in the east! F...

Thanks Dan. This is indeed a great meet. As we get closer to the date, I'll post another thread so people can list what they are bringing to sell.

We’re headin’ for MAY, and that means LURAY!! Yes, the 10th Annual Mid-Atlantic Pre-War Swap Meet will soon be here, and that means it’s time to get ready for our 10 and 2 Event! So, buckle up, as the Shenandoah Valley Racket “T”ers brings you the 10th Annual Mid Atlantic Prewar Swap Meet , immediat...

The Rockies are sold, pending payment. Thanks MTFCA.

Use the email link under "Topic Author" to contact me and discuss. Thanks!

I have a new set of Rocky Mountain brakes for sale for Small drum brakes. From what I can tell, the kit is complete minus the brake pedal, which you can get from Langs. Price is $750 paid by check. If you want to pay via paypal, that is ok too, but you need to pay via "friends and family". I don't ...

Miss seeing you Larry! Looking forward to hanging out in my barn with you in October!

I will be bringing the following: - NOS Holley (Model S) 2-screw carburetor for someone who wants their 1913 to be complete and original. - Restored 1915 version of the Holley G with steel bowl - Wheel Bearings - Useable Brass hub fan - Rocky Mountain brakes (repro) - complete set, never used. - Som...

If you are coming to Luray to sell your parts, post some details in this thread to give folks a teaser so everyone knows what you have.

Spring is in bloom here in the south and Luray is right around the corner! The folks in the Shenandoah Valley Racket T'ers along with the MTFCI thought "Hey, what better way to enhance the swap meet than by adding a few days of touring after the meet"? Well, that's exactly what we did. So, load up y...

It will soon be MAY, and that means LURAY!! Yep, we are now LESS than EIGHT WEEKS away, from the 9th Annual Mid-Atlantic Pre-War Swap Meet!! BUT REMEMBER, There’s MORE!!! The MTFCI has joined ranks with the Shenandoah Valley Racket “T”ers to bring you THREE FULL DAYS OF TOURING immediately following...

It will soon be MAY , and that means LURAY !! Yes, the 9th Annual Mid-Atlantic Pre-War Swap Meet will soon be here…. BUT WAIT!! There’s MORE!!! The MTFCI has joined ranks with the Shenandoah Valley Racket “T”ers to bring you THREE FULL DAYS OF TOURING immediately following our regularly scheduled tw...

To those who had messaged me asking, the cylinder head is on its way to Kristian.

I have a 1913 head with the square casting marks on the top at each end. The previous owner of my 13 bought it as a spare. I have not magnafluxed it but it appears to be ok. Price is $350 plus shipping. If you are interested, email me and I will send some pics and scrutinize it a little better to ma...

The June/July cars were a real hodgepodge of parts. My car is a June 26 production (pictured in the thread about the original side curtains with Larry Smith). Sn 299,995. It has the 14 rear frame section, but with a 2 piece driveshaft. It also had a wood KW coil box while metal coil boxes were alrea...

Dan... I only have two others and the curtains are put away in storage. I cant post the pics because I'm getting a pixel size error. Email me at jlyons111@hotmail.com and I'll send them to you.

The original fasteners are still with the car. When I got it over 10 years ago, someone had put a horrible vinyl interior in it but had reinstalled the fasteners. I replaced the vinyl with the correct leather interior and was waiting to reinstall the fasteners when I got new side curtains. But to th...

Well, so much for posting photos of some of the details... The pixel size isn't right so they were rejected.

Hershey is here and for me, it usually starts on the Saturday before when Larry Smith flys in to Harrisburg, PA, get's his car, and drives 2 hours south, to my place in West Virginia. This has been going on now for that last five years or so - Covid and one botched flight not withstanding. This year...

All,
Thanks for he replies. I had already gone to the McMaster site and was planning on going that route. Just thought I'd see if there was someone out there already doing this. Since It's most definitely not a Ford, I'll probably have to go the custom route.

Mike... thanks for the info!

When not playing with my 1913 or 1915 Ford's, I'm working on my 1911 Model Q-11 Maxwell. The car is very complete but it underwent an "incorrect" color restoration in dark green and black, back in the 1950's (It should be light blue). In any event, I have the brass windshield but the long brass supp...

I have reached a point in this hobby - after a 45 year love affair with antique automobiles, that the age of restoring every car we find should cease. Frankly, the only cars (again, this is just my opinion) that should be restored, are the ones where there's just nothing left that you can do with th...

At long last, the biggest little swap meet in Virginia is officially less than TWO WEEKS AWAY! It’s finally May and time for LURAY! Looking at the long-range daily forecast, the weathermen are promising 76 degrees and partly sunny… perfect weather here in the valley for both days. And with that, I m...

Hi Richard... We are not doing the "manned vendor booth" like we did in the past. However, we have had a lot of request for it this year so it will probably be on the docket for discussion for next year. Thanks, and looking forward to seeing you there!

Folks, below is our current list of vendors for the Mid Atlantic Prewar Swap meet. We are less than 4 weeks away and more vendors are signing on each week!! You're not going to want to miss this! See you in May, at LURAY!! SPRING 22 - VENDORS NAME 1 Kirtner Bradley- Model T Ford Parts New & Used Som...

Mack Cole... We will not be offering the "Manned Vendor booth" this year. However, if it is of continued interest, show-goers can let us know and we can certainly add it back in the future.

Luray is only four weeks away! Please use this post to tell us what you are bringing to sell...or, equally as important, what are you looking for?
See you in May, at Luray!

Luray is only 7 weeks away. Make plans now to attend the 8th annual Mid Atlantic Pre War Swap Meet on May 13 and 14th. The vendors at Luray always manage to deliver and no one ever goes home empty-handed. Come for the parts and linger for the friendship. You won't be disappointed! See the attached f...

It's almost May, so let's go to LURAY!!
The Mid-Atlantics biggest little spring swap meet is a mere three months away! Start your preparations now and make sure you join us for our 8th annual event. For full details, go to www.mapwsm.com
See you there!

Guys.. this is great. Please keep the pictures and comments coming!

it's killing me! After all the months of anticipation, and then being stuck at home sick, I need to see some photos of the show! Post them here for everyone to see!!

Loaded up for Luray (partially) and stuck at home sick...

As of 5pm, the pipeline has restarted. For those concerned about travel to Luray, I can at least report on my region, that as of this evening, gasoline is available at the Inwood, West Virginia exit (exit 5 on I-81). Inwood is about 60 miles north of Luray. Hopefully, news that gas is flowing again ...

The pipeline is back up and running. Gas will be flowing soon. But even so, You can get plenty of gas at Inwood, West Virginia (exit 5 on I-81) which is about 60 miles north of Luray.

After months of planning and hard work, the 7th Annual Mid Atlantic Prewar Swap Meet in beautiful Luray, Virginia is now less than two-weeks away! We have 60 vendors coming from 17 different states, and will occupy 109 vendor spots. The long-range accu-weather forecast is calling for partly sunny sk...

The 7th Annual, Mid-Atlantic prewar swap meet in Luray, Virginia is almost here! We have vendors from Florida, Alabama, Michigan, New York... and all points in between. As of this writing, we have 49 vendors occupying 93 spaces - with 33 of those vendors coming from out of state! We've broken all of...

I am bringing a pair of 23 - 25 Fordor rear fenders, a 1913 well used block and what I believe is a post 27, after production ended block to sell. May have a few 2-cylinder Maxwell parts too.

Terry... looking forward to seeing you again!

Folks - Only 8 weeks until the Mid Atlantic Prewar Swap Meet in Beautiful Luray, Virginia! We currently have almost 80 vendor sites sold which beats our all time high record for our spring meet - and we are closing in on the attendance we experienced at our "one-time-only" fall meet. Use this thread...

The registrations are coming in at a good clip so it's not out of the question that we could possibly surpass our Fall attendance. I will post regular updates going forward as the event is drawing near. Also, when we get to the 5 week mark, I will begin a thread for vendors to post what they are bri...

So far, we have 61 vendor sites sold and more are coming in each week. We are on track to surpass our 2019 spring show (2020 being cancelled) so this is looking to be the best spring even we've had. We are pushing hard to break the attendance we had back at our "one-time only" fall meet!

Rich... Thanks! Southern hospitality is still alive and well here in the two Virginia's! I'll get the latest vendor numbers and post them later today. Looking forward to seeing everyone.

Folks,
Get ready... we are only about 10 weeks away from the Spring, 2021 Mid-Atlantic Prewar Swap meet in Luray!

All, Merle is still with us. I talk to him frequently and just talked to him on Wednesday. I've been good friends with him for almost 20 years and had the pleasure of having him at my house in West Virginia twice over the years, and in 2018, I drove to Sacramento and spent a few days with him. I mad...

Always glad to have new faces at Luray! We are less than 4 months away.

A Covid vaccination may be required to get on a plane, but not to attend the Luray meet!

Anyone who's been there before knows that our meet is the definition of "open-air". And we set up the vendors with plenty of room to spare...

Folks.. Don't forget to put May 14 & 15 on your calendar so you can attend the Mid Atlantic Prewar Swap Meet in beautiful Luray, Virginia. If you did not attend our "One Time Only" Fall event, you missed a spectacular meet. We worked tirelessly to bring you a safe, socially-distant swap meet with an...

Folks... anyone here recognize this center section? I know Model T's, Maxwells, and 60s era GM muscle. Outside of that, I'm lost. This was mounted in a 1906 Maxwell I just bought. Thanks in advance.

There will always be grain alcohol...

Thanks everyone!!! I'll let you know how it goes!

A few months ago, I pulled the engine from my 25 coupe. It's all patched up and ready to go back in now. Here's the question... if I remove the steering column, can I get the engine back in with the hogshead installed and the pedals adjusted and in their normal position? When I pulled it out, the ho...

Here is a BLACK 1913 KW carcass that I've had for some time. It clearly was painted over after being stained originally.

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