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by Drkbp
Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:51 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: "The Ford Cheaper than a Horse"
Replies: 4
Views: 497

Re: "The Ford Cheaper than a Horse"

Ford worked a strong newspaper advertising program with their dealers.
Here is another "Cheaper Than A Horse" add.
May/June period of 1908, Winona, Minnesota
by Drkbp
Sat Nov 16, 2019 10:15 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: '24 T Barn Find
Replies: 20
Views: 1146

Re: '24 T Barn Find

Looks like a nice runabout and I would love to have it. :) It does appear to have a very faded 1980 Texas Vehicle Inspection sticker that would expire in August of 1981. With that plate, seems to indicate the car was street legal in Texas in 1980-81. Looks like a "runner"! Just needs a top and a qui...
by Drkbp
Wed Oct 16, 2019 7:28 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Small difference in 1913 Victor 1 side lamps
Replies: 4
Views: 277

Re: Small difference in 1913 Victor 1 side lamps

Thanks for posting the variation of the spade mount. The mount on the right appears to be a casting? The Victor Lamp Company and Corcoran Company were both owned by Thomas Corcoran and some of his brothers. The Victor "1" lamps seem to be a set that Mr. Corcoran could get together quickly to get a p...
by Drkbp
Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Running Board Acetylene cylinder ?
Replies: 12
Views: 814

Re: Running Board Acetylene cylinder ?

Ivan, The 20 inch tank is called a "B" tank at the welding supply houses where I find a few Prest-O-Lite offset valve tanks mixed in with the regular tanks. They are not the old style tank with the pressure gauge on the bottom which can't be filled here in the U.S. Marty, Keith has shown the best pe...
by Drkbp
Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: What do you do when the boss says “I want you to build a car that will beat the fastest racer in the world?”
Replies: 59
Views: 3000

Re: What do you do when the boss says “I want you to build a car that will beat the fastest racer in the world?”

The real highlight of the day is the "50 second track record" for our guy against "Wild" Bob Burman with the V radiator Ford Special racer pictured above! :) And the $1,000 bill... :D But there was another couple of great races easier to see in another news clip of the days events. ;) (Red dots on a...
by Drkbp
Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:55 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Hand cranking, left versus right hand
Replies: 25
Views: 1216

Re: Hand cranking, left versus right hand

Interesting post. Although I'm not quite 100% ambidextrous, I use whichever hand is "most convenient" to whatever I am doing; wrench, screwdriver, hammer, drawing etc. Years ago when I brought my first T home, a 1914, I had to crank it to get it off the trailer. I used the left hand which "seemed" t...
by Drkbp
Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Has anyone had experience with LED bulbs in a acetylene headlight?
Replies: 11
Views: 826

Re: Has anyone had experience with LED bulbs in a acetylene headlight?

As Allan says, Mangin mirror reflector.

Gas is about as simple and reliable as it could get using a Prest-O-Lite setup :) .
by Drkbp
Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:42 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Early vs. Late 1913 Fenders
Replies: 22
Views: 1158

Re: Early vs. Late 1913 Fenders

Ed, Beautiful car! I have one of those "1913's" with a 1914 style body. I suspect yours is a Beaudette body touring.? ;) There will be a "B" on the kick panel if it is a Beaudette. They also have the bead along the lower edge of the rear tub. Apparently, the 1914 style touring car began to appear du...
by Drkbp
Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:51 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Stewart speedometer chains
Replies: 4
Views: 563

Re: Stewart speedometer chains

If your swivel and speedometer are functioning properly, be sure and "lay the chain" prior to attaching to the speedometer head or you invite a jam and broken link. To flip the links all in the same direction: Insert chain in the housing, attach both clutches to chain and screw cable onto swivel. Le...
by Drkbp
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:28 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Interesting almost matching numbers.
Replies: 1
Views: 321

Re: Interesting almost matching numbers.

Allan,

Is the transmission stub shaft dated?

Ken P
by Drkbp
Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: New T owner with a few questions
Replies: 21
Views: 1573

Re: New T owner with a few questions

Lorien, The John Brown 16's also "fit" your runabout. You have plenty of headlights! :) I have a set on a my July 1913 '14 style touring. Most important part is the Mangin mirrors in them. The mirrors will also fit the Victor lamps that are on your car. A fellow has a post on the HCCA that he goes t...
by Drkbp
Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: New T owner with a few questions
Replies: 21
Views: 1573

Re: New T owner with a few questions

Do not try to move the windshield until until you turn the driver side hinge over the other way. It is on backwards.
The passenger side windshield hinge is on correct for it to fold to the rear. ;)

Then we can talk about a nice looking '14 :) with some Victor lamps we have to get lit! :D

Ken P
by Drkbp
Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: OLD PHOTO - Brass Era - Outback In A Ford
Replies: 9
Views: 1041

Re: OLD PHOTO - Brass Era - Outback In A Ford

Seems to be a 1915/16 chassis. Looks like it has the enlarged top radiator tank that was probably Australian. Maybe one of folks from there can comment on those. It does appear to have fork mounted electric headlights and three tier square kerosene side lamps. Canadian cars used spade mount side lam...
by Drkbp
Tue Jun 11, 2019 8:33 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Phot- An early Model T
Replies: 17
Views: 1894

Re: Old Phot- An early Model T

I have some Victor gas lamps like that and I believe lamps with the additional reflector are called "double reflector". They do look larger but it may just be the additional silvered rim behind the glass.
by Drkbp
Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:38 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Carbide headlights Dash flames don’t meet!
Replies: 13
Views: 1343

Re: Carbide headlights Dash flames don’t meet!

Greg, I use a acetylene regulator to check my burners before I put them in the headlight. I put the burner in a small vise and run a hose to it, crack the regulator to about 3 psi and check that they burn correctly. A small in line valve before the burner helps when you use tank acetylene. The burne...
by Drkbp
Tue Jun 11, 2019 9:23 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Carbide headlights Dash flames don’t meet!
Replies: 13
Views: 1343

Re: Carbide headlights Dash flames don’t meet!

Greg, It sounds like you have some burners that have been used with a carbide generator and have a slight lime buildup at the port opening. That will make the gas jet off center to hit the other jet on the burner. Also, check the two side ports on each tip and be sure they are clear. I have had some...
by Drkbp
Thu May 30, 2019 7:18 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Special Racer, it's about a wrap.
Replies: 17
Views: 1321

Re: Ford Special Racer, it's about a wrap.

Beautiful!! :)
Love your idea about the magnetic numbers. I vote for "12".. :D
Get your goggles ready!! 8-)
by Drkbp
Thu May 30, 2019 7:08 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old photo
Replies: 10
Views: 1030

Re: Old photo

Great photograph. Looks like a real Ford Delivery Car. :shock: Maybe one of the folks can comment further on that. :? It does have a Prest-O-Lite tank for the headlights which appear to be E&J. The sidelights are John Brown 100's and the front fenders appear to be 1913 style. Looks like the horn is ...
by Drkbp
Sun May 26, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Exhaust Deflector?
Replies: 3
Views: 478

Re: Exhaust Deflector?

I believe you are correct and it also protects the Stewart speedometer.
You can see the cable running from behind the shield to the right front wheel where the road gear is mounted.
The exhaust pipes appear to be the tapered like the early tail pipe.
Great photograph of an early Ford Model T racer.
by Drkbp
Sat May 25, 2019 5:22 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest
Replies: 13
Views: 1177

Re: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest

Rob, It doesn't mean that the 141 cubic inch motor wasn't used at all. Just not in that race, that's all. The 1910 A.A.A. Rules you posted were just a short version. Here is the full blown A.A.A. Rules for 1911: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015080121703;view=1up;seq=548 Stock cars ca...
by Drkbp
Sat May 25, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest
Replies: 13
Views: 1177

Re: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest

Rob, To answer your question (your May 19 post), the “Class B” refers to the "Class B Stock car" races at Winnipeg. The races were being conducted under A.A.A. Stock Car rules. The other cars listed with the Ford are “Stock car” racers and the Ford Roach is driving has to be a 176.7 cubic inch Ford ...
by Drkbp
Thu May 23, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1910 292 cubic inch Model T engine is going together.
Replies: 22
Views: 2359

Re: 1910 292 cubic inch Model T engine is going together.

That is really looking nice! 8-)
Lean, mean, racing machine!! :P

Ken P
by Drkbp
Mon May 20, 2019 5:24 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest
Replies: 13
Views: 1177

Re: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest

Rob, The one that got wrecked where the mechanic was killed is what I have in my notes. I believe you have them flipped. The wreck was the 4-1/2" x 4-3/4" engine racer built for the French Grand Prix race, which is a 302.2 cubic inch displacement Ford Special Depasse entered. It was in the New York ...
by Drkbp
Mon May 20, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest
Replies: 13
Views: 1177

Re: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest

Rob, You are really good at chasing this information down. Don't stop. It helps to dig out the other tid-bits as we read through the material. Great fun and fascinating stuff. Have to explore this stuff because it's the only way to figure it out, maybe! :lol: I think Roach raced but they only gave f...
by Drkbp
Mon May 20, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest
Replies: 13
Views: 1177

Re: Ford special racing motor description- starting with the smallest

The race entries for the Kirkfield Winnipeg Races, dated 17 September 1910, leave something to be desired. ;) The Motor Age Race Summary after the race clears up the Ford running in the 231 to 300 class. It didn't. :o The Ford was entered in the Dunlop Trophy 25 Mile "Free For All", not the "231 to ...
by Drkbp
Thu May 16, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo-What happened?
Replies: 11
Views: 1421

Re: Old Photo-What happened?

Isn't that a photo of the Johnstown flood of 1936?

KP
by Drkbp
Mon May 13, 2019 4:39 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 1108

Re: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?

Dobbin eyeing three ladies in the electric.
Back seat driver got its start right there. :lol:
by Drkbp
Mon May 13, 2019 12:11 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: What is the difference between Town Car and Landaullette?
Replies: 8
Views: 1067

Re: What is the difference between Town Car and Landaullette?

Here are two photographs of a 1909 stuck in the mud. :(

KP
by Drkbp
Mon May 13, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 1108

Re: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?

Thank you Trent, The car on the left does appear to have a wood type Troy windshield. Too small to tell, of course. Someone with better computer skills than I possess may generate a better image. There is a photograph in the Ford Times (Summer or Fall 1912 issue) of a 1913 Model T touring car displa...
by Drkbp
Mon May 13, 2019 8:18 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 1108

1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?

Great photograph of the Detroit Gas Company Building in 1908 ... Shorpy this morning.
Is the runabout in front of the bicycle a Ford? :?:
First cup of coffee so eyes may still be off center too. :)

Link to the photograph:

https://www.shorpy.com/node/24740?size= ... al#caption
by Drkbp
Sun May 12, 2019 3:17 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Another neat photo
Replies: 9
Views: 1120

Re: Another neat photo

Great photograph!
Very fine detail, please post more of these.
The plate appears to be "3-148 DC 1919" :shock:
A hundred years sure goes by in a hurry
by Drkbp
Fri May 10, 2019 10:47 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Rob, I hear you on the first cup of coffee! :) We had golf ball size hail storm at my Houston place last night and lost power, mess, house and one automobile damaged. :o :( There was only one Ford Motor Company driver, Frank Kulick, that reported to the A.A.A. officials by 20 February 1911, had his ...
by Drkbp
Fri May 10, 2019 12:15 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Rob,
Thank you for the summary.
Write-up is wrong in another place! :o
Mixed photos. :lol:
You gotta watch'em! ;)
He's running a lower neck 1910 radiator.
I think we are going to come up with a 161 to 230 cubic inch Ford Special in 1910. Just ;) watch
KP
by Drkbp
Fri May 10, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Racer drawing mystery - any idea what this is?
Replies: 9
Views: 810

Re: Ford Racer drawing mystery - any idea what this is?

Rob,

It's noted on the drawing and is the profile of the 7/16" deep part through the center line.
The thickness of the casting is also given, 1/16".
Also, give us a name for the dash can. :)

KP
by Drkbp
Fri May 10, 2019 9:03 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Racer drawing mystery - any idea what this is?
Replies: 9
Views: 810

Re: Ford Racer drawing mystery - any idea what this is?

Rob, Well, there you go! I didn't notice the elongated port on your can before. :o We had a bad hail storm last night and I just came back in. I was going to add to the earlier post that if you hadn't cut the hole in the Dash can you could position it with the surround. If you already went by the Fo...
by Drkbp
Fri May 10, 2019 7:19 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Racer drawing mystery - any idea what this is?
Replies: 9
Views: 810

Re: Ford Racer drawing mystery - any idea what this is?

Rob, I looked at those drawings last night and the two caps may be for a fuel/oil tank like is on what we have been calling the 49 car. I have clipped it below. The photo isn't very big but look right behind Frank's left arm. See how the cap sits up on the tank filler nozzle riser. The cap seems to ...
by Drkbp
Thu May 09, 2019 6:35 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Dan, Rob,
That's Rice racing the 6 car at the 1910 Algonquin. He wins! :D
Gruener is there too and he races the 5 car.
by Drkbp
Thu May 09, 2019 10:01 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Wayne, We have better records available than I would have imagined regarding Ford car numbers at New Orleans…. I tried hard to condense this but it is long. The Short Answer paragraph covers the car number issue, but if you are into detail, it follows. However, it does cover one of Ford’s greatest r...
by Drkbp
Tue May 07, 2019 7:18 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Forgot to add :( If we see some action photographs one day, we'll know where they were taken. Michigan State Fair Grounds track and Frank Kulick can make that Varooom up and down Woodward he talks about. :lol: Woodward seems to have been another of his race tracks. :!: The "50 second mile" Ford Spec...
by Drkbp
Tue May 07, 2019 12:48 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

I don't know about that. You are waaay ahead of us! :lol: Varoooom! Great project! I believe it is just a publicity photograph to promote, or report, the Hawthorne Race Card in Chicago. It could be another track somewhere else but doesn’t really matter. The photo Bucket I picked up on another site 6...
by Drkbp
Mon May 06, 2019 2:40 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Young Edsel has a non-Ford mag, no spark lever. Empty coil box makes a good glove box, 8-) …. like the 32 car (Elgin August 29, 1911) has a coil box but you see the Bosch mag next to radiator with its side piece missing. Note “bulge” on bonnet under belt-buckle. Bulges to clear magneto show better o...
by Drkbp
Sun May 05, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Wayne, The photo I posted above with Hatch and Kulick is actually Gruener’s 49 car, 176.7 cubic inch non-stock chassis racer :o So much for the short brake handle idea! The race Hatch entered the 38 car was Fox River too, not Aurora. :( Also, that’s a coil box and latch showing behind the firewall a...
by Drkbp
Thu May 02, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Wayne, Good spot! I didn’t notice that. :shock: Short brake handle seems to be a Kulick trait. Hatch races the “tall” handle. At first I thought I saw a coil box but looking closer it seems to be just a tag or something Kulick has stuck behind the hood former. Kulick and Hatch are in either the 42 c...
by Drkbp
Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:47 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Another Cool Photo
Replies: 7
Views: 1119

Re: Another Cool Photo

Great photo Larry, of an almost brand new car and we're going somewhere :D ...Check out the goggles! Look at those headlights. They seem to be a "Black & Brass" version of the John Brown 19. :o what's with that? The lovely Victor 1 has three side vents in the bonnet but they are in a straight line. ...
by Drkbp
Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:18 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Neat Photo
Replies: 11
Views: 1724

Re: Neat Photo

I was looking at that fine picture of the Town Car a little closer... Attached is a Ford factory photograph (note license plate) of the Touring car at that time. Note that the wood firewall is painted black. It's the style built until April 1915 because of difficulty encountered with the 1915 style ...
by Drkbp
Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Neat Photo
Replies: 11
Views: 1724

Re: Neat Photo

This is out of the Ford Times and was commenting on the "1915 Ford Line". Check out the 1915 Touring and Runabout :shock: Gas Lamps! They're missing the bulb horn and acetylene generator but looks pretty much spot on, Black & Brass E&J lamps. That was that crazy (early '15 model year) time, October ...
by Drkbp
Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Here is a picture that I got with no information. This fine thread, thank you Rob, let's me/us add some. It's new to me and I don't recall seeing it before so I'll go ahead on it. Frank Kulick is the driver and Hatch is riding mechanic. They have just passed the finish line at the top at Algonquin. ...
by Drkbp
Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:42 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Rob, Thank you very much for the Times article and I note the rights. Nice full article. Big deal to Ford Motor and I’m sure it’s full of details. I second Warren’s comment. I have been looking at those car numbers and can’t figure out “his” number from all the stuff we have been looking at the last...
by Drkbp
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:29 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Rob, “For comparison, the Ford Specials ran the mile at the New Orleans races in an average of about 55 mph.” Please don’t sell the large block 300 cubic inch Ford Specials short in the Mardi Gras races! Kulick wouldn’t like that :evil: The 300’s have a much better average speed than the small block...
by Drkbp
Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:47 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

MODEL T 13 CAR IN THE NEW ORLEANS FEBRUARY 25-27, 1911 RACES Rob, You’ve got a sharp eye for detail and I agree with you that the 13 car was at least entered in the New Orleans pro race. They did run some A races but you can’t see it in your St. Louis Post Dispatch newspaper column “TWO RECORDS GO A...
by Drkbp
Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:48 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Rob, That picture of the 12 car that Kulick drives in New Orleans is absolutely fine. The detail is as good as it gets. I went back after lunch today and compared it to the large engine Specials and I see exactly what you are talking about. Side by side and there is no doubt about the motor mount an...
by Drkbp
Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:26 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Wayne, I hear you on the speedster. I was sitting here in my Tony Stewart NASCAR racing jacket writing the above. Took quite a while to type that stuff. The leather cap and goggles kept getting in the way! :lol: Rob, Great picture on the New Orleans 12 car. Do you have a link to that Ford Times arti...
by Drkbp
Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:30 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Thank you Rob for bringing up two great race events for Ford and Frank Kulick. I'll go ahead and post this regarding New Orleans since we already talked about Brighton Beach and it keeps these two together. It is hard to make these concise but I'll give it a whirl. Really neat stuff and there are pr...
by Drkbp
Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo- Rushville NY, cars and gaspumps
Replies: 3
Views: 721

Re: Old Photo- Rushville NY, cars and gaspumps

Same spot today. Gas pump is gone and we are riding bikes...
by Drkbp
Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:43 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

It takes a bit of digging to put together the bore & stroke on these racers. It is the standard B&S to meet the "stock chassis" of the "B" class you just posted. Fun stuff, the #4 car is my car and Harvick is the man! Two more: The Cino 4-3/8" x 5" = 300.5 c.i. 3C racer and the Corbin 4-1/2" x 4-1/4...
by Drkbp
Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:36 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Rob, It's much easier to see what's going on in that Brighton Beach race that began this thread by looking at the race summary and the engine displacements involved. A big help is they added the car numbers in the summary for this meet. I have attached the Brighton Beach August 1910 Race Summary bel...
by Drkbp
Sat Apr 20, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.
Replies: 72
Views: 4380

Re: August 1910. Ford re-enters track racing.

Great thread! However, there is an error in the newspaper or periodical "write-up" regarding the first discussed eight-car race above. Rob caught it but it is confusing if you are not familiar with the way the cars were classed. Instead of "261 to 300 cubic inches", the writer should have said "300 ...
by Drkbp
Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:41 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Calcium Carbide
Replies: 7
Views: 945

Re: Calcium Carbide

I clipped the following add out of a 1904 issue of The Acetylene Journal, regarding the yield of a pound of carbide. At that yield, a pound should keep our T headlamps burning for about 2-1/2 to 3 hours using standard burners (3/4's). Knowing how much carbide to "charge" the generator for a certain ...
by Drkbp
Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:56 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo _ Auto Shop
Replies: 14
Views: 1538

Re: Old Photo _ Auto Shop

Square front fenders, no bill. Early '09 T at left front of photo.
Great photo.
by Drkbp
Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:45 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Identifying correct coil box for early 1913
Replies: 28
Views: 2147

Re: Identifying correct coil box for early 1913

Colin,

Did the Canadian body manufactures "date/number" the bodies on the front seat base like the U.S.?

Ken P
by Drkbp
Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Lurker no longer - Now a 1915? Model T Owner - Body # questions
Replies: 24
Views: 1922

Re: Lurker no longer - Now a 1915? Model T Owner - Body # questions

Correct rear axle.
A number of quadrant variations could be found on this early of a 1915. Even a '14 style brass one.
Probably an original dash, bulb horn.
by Drkbp
Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:32 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Lurker no longer - Now a 1915? Model T Owner - Body # questions
Replies: 24
Views: 1922

Re: Lurker no longer - Now a 1915? Model T Owner - Body # questions

Congratulations Andrew, You may very well have a very early 1915 touring car. The wider/shorter tag appears to be the body tag and someone did you great favor when they tacked it on the seat frame! It was located on the left of the dash just under the cowl which has marked the tag upper left corner ...
by Drkbp
Sun Mar 31, 2019 1:57 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gas Line Details For Headlights
Replies: 16
Views: 1653

Re: Gas Line Details For Headlights

Tim,
My mistake,
I should have put the whole photo up and an arrow to what I was talking about!
by Drkbp
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:43 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Racing T 1911
Replies: 10
Views: 1146

Re: Racing T 1911

Those strip down chassis were an absolute rage of the day. The Ford weight/horsepower ratio made them an instant race car! Street plates, a horn and maybe a magneto right behind the radiator. Seems he removed the rear body brackets and front fender supports. Who knows what he had in the rear end? Ad...
by Drkbp
Fri Mar 29, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Gas Line Details For Headlights
Replies: 16
Views: 1653

Re: Gas Line Details For Headlights

Thank you for posting the photos. The setup looks great and the tee and sleeve have that "thick wall" look to them. The photo below is on the assembly line and the little brass hose clamps sure look small. They installed the gas headlight hoses in the radiators before they came down to the line. I u...
by Drkbp
Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:56 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo- 1910 Ford touring
Replies: 5
Views: 995

Re: Old Photo- 1910 Ford touring

Appears to have a 1910 Ohio license plate.
Neat picture of an almost new car!
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:03 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: New Model T Times
Replies: 12
Views: 1655

Re: New Model T Times

The pilot holes, if any, were probably drilled in the "dash assembly room" where the men would know they were making a LHD or RHD dash. Factory photos show good access to both sides of the dash and the horn is mounted at that time. Otherwise, you would have unused pilot holes "showing" on the dash u...
by Drkbp
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:04 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Headlight Gas Line Routing
Replies: 37
Views: 3016

Re: Headlight Gas Line Routing

If using carbide, you may want to run the rear gas line as discussed above when you get a chance.
Keeps the moisture trap at the splash shield hose.
Do you have the frame clamp?
by Drkbp
Fri Mar 15, 2019 2:08 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Plant Glass Plate Negatives, Sleuthing Opportinity
Replies: 13
Views: 1488

Re: Ford Plant Glass Plate Negatives, Sleuthing Opportinity

I believe you are correct Jeff. That is probably Henry Ford and a young Edsel Ford taking a look at the construction from the new administration building. I thought about that yesterday when I flipped it. If you look at known photos of the two men, you will see the similar height relationship. Also,...
by Drkbp
Thu Mar 14, 2019 2:34 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Plant Glass Plate Negatives, Sleuthing Opportinity
Replies: 13
Views: 1488

Re: Ford Plant Glass Plate Negatives, Sleuthing Opportinity

The last one in your first set of negs looks like stacks of aluminum transmission covers.
I made it positive so it can be seen better.
by Drkbp
Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:46 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Headlight Gas Line Routing
Replies: 37
Views: 3016

Re: Headlight Gas Line Routing

A number of years ago I made a new 44" long "gas lamp tube assembly, rear" used on our T's from July 1912 until the end of gas head lamps. If your 1912 radiator had gas tube holes in the side panels and a cross-over, you had the rear gas tube Larry started this thread about. For mid-1912 thru 1914 g...
by Drkbp
Sun Mar 10, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Motor Company blueprints. Questions and information regarding -M- Ford Special racer drawings.
Replies: 9
Views: 1027

Re: Ford Motor Company blueprints. Questions and information regarding -M- Ford Special racer drawings.

You posted two wood gas tank support prints. Both of them for modified frames (not straight). The second print above is the " Gas Tank Support Block " (an elliptical tank) for the 410 racer pictured below in Ford Times. It also looks like the tank/mount on the "existing" racer that Ford has I have s...
by Drkbp
Fri Mar 08, 2019 10:21 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb
Replies: 16
Views: 1428

Re: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb

The Henry Ford/Frank Kulick factory "T racing" lasted about three years as laid out in " The Cars That Henry Ford Built ". Seems to also tie into what you are saying about Mardi Gras above Rob, but no mention of France or Spain. The point of all this seems to have been that Henry Ford wanted to ente...
by Drkbp
Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb
Replies: 16
Views: 1428

Re: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb

David, I believe you are correct. Ford had a stable full of these cars and ran them in the "Hill Climb" and "Track Meet" type events in the classes where the Ford's fit. "Hill Climbs", "Reliability Runs", "Track Meets" and "Road Races" were apparently the attention getting events of the day and the ...
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:31 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb
Replies: 16
Views: 1428

Re: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb

I think you are correct Rob. The first 1911 Algonquin picture you posted of Kulick, he is driving one of the smaller 176 cubic inch racers which has the engine and radiator in the normal position.The second Algonquin picture is the "New Racer" with the big engine: 389.9 cubic inch (in the June 1911 ...
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:43 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb
Replies: 16
Views: 1428

Re: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb

Looks like Ford ran just four cylinder cars at both the 1911 and 1912 Algonquin. The "289.9" is apparently a typo in the 1911 article and they were running two four cylinder blocks of different displacement, 176.7 and 389.9 cubic inches. They opened up both blocks for the 1912 effort at Algonquin an...
by Drkbp
Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:38 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb
Replies: 16
Views: 1428

Re: Ford Special racer in France, another hill climb

I just read an article in the June 14, 1911, issue of The Horseless Age. Lanahan, Gruener and Kulick were running a hill climb at Alogonquin with what appears to be Fords of different displacements. It noted they were "special". https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015080110672;view=1up;seq=...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:00 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo-Photo supply store!
Replies: 4
Views: 709

Re: Old Photo-Photo supply store!

Looks like a 1904 Autocar, lever steering version.
Dollar a pound!

Neat photo of the new car!
by Drkbp
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:40 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Original Canadian 1912 Engine Casting numbers
Replies: 12
Views: 1016

Re: Original Canadian 1912 Engine Casting numbers

This is right about the time frame of the "B" blocks.
What was the question/wrong with the 146,808 for a 1912 car?
Since you have it apart and the crank was dated,
I am curious what the date is on the transmission stub shaft?
by Drkbp
Sat Feb 23, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: O.T. But interesting Shorpy Photo
Replies: 17
Views: 1893

Re: O.T. But interesting Shorpy Photo

Nice write-up in the "Cycle and Automobile Trade Journal" , for April 1, 1903, on the Pierce Stanhope and Pierce "Arrow". They were covering the New York Show, of January 1903. The Pierce Arrow, the tonneau, a much larger 15 H.P. car. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015024325998;view=1u...
by Drkbp
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:59 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Questions about Victor #2 Lights
Replies: 3
Views: 463

Re: Questions about Victor #2 Lights

Looks like there are four variations of the Victor tail lamps for 1913/14. The round little Victor No. 1, embossed lamp cap, incuse stamped cap and a three lens version of the Model 2 square lamps as you pictured above. Another thread you might have already read: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 21, 2019 5:18 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: OT - Old Photo - Pre T - Ford Endures - Home of Superman
Replies: 5
Views: 820

Re: OT - Old Photo - Pre T - Ford Endures - Home of Superman

Nice introductory article on the new Ford Model N, Cycle and Automobile Trade Journal, June 1906. https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015068171399;view=1up;seq=180;size=125 On June 2, 1906, Henry Ford drove the author to Pontiac, Michigan, and back. It was a 49 mile round trip and the only ...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:22 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: A new 1914
Replies: 13
Views: 1877

Re: A new 1914

Rich,

Are these the photos?

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/496499.html

Great photos of the interior of an early '14 Touring.
by Drkbp
Tue Feb 19, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: A new 1914
Replies: 13
Views: 1877

Re: A new 1914

Horn bulb seems to be at a 45 degree angle.
Was the top boot part of the original equipment? Nice one on this new car.
Thank you for the great photo.
I'd seen this one too but didn't know the location info.
by Drkbp
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:42 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: A new 1914
Replies: 13
Views: 1877

Re: A new 1914

It is Ford's 1914 manufacturers plate on that new '14.
Must be early calendar 1914, no speedometer cable showing.
by Drkbp
Fri Feb 15, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Who Made These?
Replies: 3
Views: 1034

Re: Who Made These?

The friction igniters were marketed by numerous burner suppliers like Colt and Alco as a convenience over matches. Most were used in homes and businesses, as well as boats and automobiles. Many configurations Below is a Colt friction igniter like the one I installed in a Victor 6-inch gas lamp on my...
by Drkbp
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo - Early T With Odd Looking Bumper
Replies: 3
Views: 703

Re: Old Photo - Early T With Odd Looking Bumper

Looks like a Ohio 1914 plate on a new '14.
Victor carbide generator and E&J headlights.
Probably Victor side lamps too but definitely not E&J.
Thank you for the photo!
by Drkbp
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:57 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1915 side light font ring
Replies: 9
Views: 898

Re: 1915 side light font ring

Robbie,
What does the lamp look like?
by Drkbp
Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:43 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: OT - Old Photo - Pre T Ford...Possibly Model S
Replies: 9
Views: 982

Re: OT - Old Photo - Pre T Ford...Possibly Model S

The Elkhorn 09 banner is stuck in what looks like the base of the mount for a search/driving light on the center of the dash. Ford shipped some with a single driving light mounted on the dash front, a single gas lamp and maybe a MC POL tank. Those are small headlamps and an MC would handle them both...
by Drkbp
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo-Spooner WI
Replies: 10
Views: 1150

Re: Old Photo-Spooner WI

Neat Post Card. Cancelled in Chicago but can't see the date.
Motorcycle has the Prest-O-Lite MC tank mounted next to the top of the rear wheel.
by Drkbp
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Carbide burner tips can anyone tell what these are for?
Replies: 10
Views: 801

Re: Carbide burner tips can anyone tell what these are for?

Except for the ALCO tip, those seem to be like the Bray carbide gas burners.
Bray is British and you can see them offered on ebay all the time.
by Drkbp
Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:29 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Fleeing the Dust Bowl
Replies: 12
Views: 1462

Re: Fleeing the Dust Bowl

Seems to be a 1936 Tennessee farm license plate on the truck.
Also, a '35 Ford coupe in the far background .
Great photo!
by Drkbp
Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:49 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: E & J 466 Mounting Brackets
Replies: 1
Views: 351

Re: E & J 466 Mounting Brackets

Thank you Phil,

Ken P
by Drkbp
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:23 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: I need a lesson on E+J 666 head lamps
Replies: 5
Views: 814

Re: I need a lesson on E+J 666 head lamps

Keith,

Do you know if the E&J 466's have the same brass clad prop support like the 666's?
by Drkbp
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 13-14 with oil can picture
Replies: 20
Views: 1629

Re: 13-14 with oil can picture

I believe the radiator is probably off a '15/'16. The brass "t" for the hose to the rear gas line would be visible on a gas crossover tube. Hole in patch is also too small for a gas hose. Passenger fender without bead, 1913 style? Also, I believe I see 220,XXX for a serial number. Short boss. Anyone...
by Drkbp
Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:16 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Another early touring
Replies: 8
Views: 1269

Re: Another early touring

Great photo of an almost new (1911 plates) early car!
I believe Bob and Wayne have it, a 1910.
Appears to have the interrupted ribs on the running boards.
Nice view of John Brown 15 headlights and Model 60 side lamps.
Thank you, one of the reasons I followed the old site.
by Drkbp
Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:28 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Old Photo-Model S Mother inlaw roadster
Replies: 17
Views: 1947

Re: Old Photo-Model S Mother inlaw roadster

Got some "extras" on that one! Looks like a set of E&J gas headlamps and a Prest-O-Lite tank.
I believe the two-tiered E&J side oil lamps were included from Ford but what about the top?

Great photo Herb!

Ken