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Stick your deutsche in yer hat! My grandparents were born in Austria, so if you don’t care about these visitors, I do and perhaps the vast majority of the worldwide model T community does. Getting our friends squashed like a bug would be a big black eye for all of us, and not so good for them, eithe...

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WTF ??? Why change a thread with something as important as this? Our German traveling friends need to know a TRUCK TRAVELING AT 70MPH can go over 100 ft a second ! That’s 31 METERS A SECOND ! They need to stay off the highway unless they want to make the evening news again, and a big grease spot as ...

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Please, No more highway driving unless you have a death wish. Even local state routes are getting a bit too scary for me.

I have modern rear axle floating hubs on my merc, and you just take out the bolt that secures them to grease them. Don’t those bearings secure the same way?

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Jim, can’t help with your question but I have a nice AK coil box, cheeeep. It’s a nice box, and didn’t look up if it’s for your unit, but think it is. Tmorsher@icloud.com if any interest. T 1318D94B-2814-4B3C-B739-689B9DFD34AE.jpeg 976158F1-303B-43BF-A3B1-302E3FBD95D2.jpeg 17E9A0D6-5576-4D0B-BFBC-34...

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Richard, I viewed your copper sample in your 6-24 post, and that gasket is symmetrical. The original is not. So, you are losing a bit of gasket surface in its use. I still think that hole could probably be walked into place, but perhaps better would be whoever made it, to be aware of the mistake in ...

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Richard , I believe your first picture shows the gasket put on backwards. There is a front and back to the gasket. That wouldn’t effect the bolt holes, of course , but if an annealed copper gasket was dropped on its edge in the package, it could certainly distort that much. I’d just try using a good...

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You keep outdoing yourself, Tom!! The first thing that came to my mind with that one pic was this. Looking at the positive, at least he isn’t sitting in a puddle while welding underneath there, although he could be welding a hole in the gas tank! .

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Thanks Ron, Lang’s has ubolts pictured, and I wasn’t aware they ever came with bearings. In my simple mind, unless you double nut the U bolt, you will eventually lose a nut. Some of us can’t handle losing too many nuts. Also , a rattle point with bolts. I don’t like to overthink things, but in this ...

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I believe they have always come with Ubolts. I installed one a long time ago and added simple pillow blocks to my install. Including those would add significantly to the price and you’ve heard of T people…………..FWIW , and I’ve been wrong before, but that’s what I remember, t

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Brian, I have a nice extra excess to my needs. It’s been checked and actually a really good radiator. Send me an email and I’ll get it down for pics. Tmorsher@icloud.com

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It wasn’t for sale, sorry. I offered to loan it to Tim. Here is another style, but this one will churn your milk into butter, I’m afraid.

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Thanks Pep, yes I missed that. Indeed, it is very close to what was used originally.

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John, if you have any decent upholstery shop nearly, it’s called cowl board. It’s treated to hold up well in an auto. A decent machine can sew through it, also. I need to run up town and get a couple sheets myself, so if you cannot find it, let me know size needed. It’ll be a lot cheaper than sendin...

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Sorry Steve, I believe it was made after Lindbergh’s flight, as it fits larger caps of the model A era. NOS to boot!

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From Dollidad pics

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Oldies from way back when….

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This guy did it for $3.95. That’s what the spray foam cost him. He already had the major components.

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We do a LOT of shipping. We love our postal people, and always have. I expect we always will. In my 50 plus years of selling car parts, the only thing that ever gets lost is peoples checks sent to us. I’ll let you figure that out. We had two checks supposedly sent from someone that never arrived. Th...

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I agree with Scott %100. I’ve never seen anything like that picture. Special order, perhaps? Wonder if the dealer had a lot of touch up after assembly? And oil and axle lube? Just such wonderful pics, I’ll be first in line to buy the book, Tom

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Norman, it’s a well accessorized lIzzy so could certainly have one of the various brands of “fillometers” that allowed the driver to just stick the hose between her legs to fill the tank.

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By the time of model Ts birth, things got a bit easier, at least to US Gauge standards. 60psi for 30”, 70psi for 30x3 1/2 . The invincible was patented in 1906 , so just perfect for the early T. Less is almost always more. A09733A4-1312-47D2-8D2E-6679249AD103.jpeg 3920CE6C-0F15-4EF0-AD32-31487387601...

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In the first couple years of motoring, you would want to purchase this tin litho encased beauty. You would then need to do some serious ‘ciphering’ before heading out. 0494D76C-FA0D-4E22-87BF-B33D23AD67F9.jpeg C97915CC-0BE7-4CF0-93B1-1A5C3527CA2E.jpeg 10DFDA9F-742A-405C-8A52-131E98A7E13B.jpeg DA7009...

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Norm, as a 50+ year collector of auto accessories , I’ve gotten an earful more than once. Believe me, ( or not) My model Ts are my canvas that I paint with original accessories, I hope tastefully.

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I agree, Dan. For those that detest accessories, they should not view any of Tom’s great pics. Hardly a T without some sort of do-dad

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Thanks again, Tom. Wonderful pics! I’d like to add my great grandfather Peter Dietrich, Ridgeville township , Ohio. He and doggie proudly showing off the new Ford.

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They are a beautiful piece of craftsmanship and automobilia, too . I picked up a NOS one awhile back at an Amish antique shop, of all places. It was a bit too big for a T, so it went down the road.

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Gas gauges made for the model T have always intrigued me. You can only imagine back then of young people, probably young men, playing in their simple shops trying to come up with the next big thing for model T. Some would be called Rube Goldberg contraptions. Some would be so simple in their design ...

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I’ve been “collecting” since about 12 or maybe 13……….took me awhile to learn that’s it’s better to regret BUYING something, than to regret NOT buying something.

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A really nice 1915 coupelet about 15 years ago, and a very complete Himoco motor, all the bells and whistles at model T haven, 2 or 3 years ago. You could spend a lifetime looking for either.

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I agree, Dan. Love your road light , too. I had several monograms to use , but will now offer them for sale soon.
For those accessory haters, close your eyes.

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Great on you for following through on it , Jason! Treasure those phone calls to dad, as I sure miss my conversations with mine. He was my go-to guy for so many things, and I still have his little schematics here to help me, being the dim witted son. Love to see a younger guy making his T special, ke...

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Took care of that problem. Just mounted on the merc to the cycle fender mount. It’ll turn with the wheels now.
I’d have to agree %100 with you on the original mounting spot. Even with modern roads, it would take a good beating!

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Here is a nifty NOS accessory. They even mention the lowly Ford.

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Just thinking out loud here. I think I remember some thin paper gaskets behind the bearing race on some I’ve taken apart. I’m thinking that’s how it may have been put to the sweet spot originally. Wish other bosch affectionos would share any knowledge.

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Forgot about the new armature…. Just barely loosen up the screws on one end…….if it’s better, a thin paper gasket with do the trick.

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If it’s binding here at all, perhaps the red fiber needs sanded and polished down a bit. The color of it tells me it likely has been replaced. Check that out.

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As for spinning, it should turn pretty easily unless something is binding up. Sometimes a small paper gasket is needed to make clearance for the ball bearings, but should be done at that step. Kind of hard to convey what hard to turn is over the interweb,

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Ya Gotta get a wrench and feeler gauge to work. There are small ones out there just for Bosch that have a gauge attached to them, but in the meantime, just grind what you have shown above so it’ll fit( unless an heirloom piece or sumthin sumthin. Small vintage craftsman ignition wrench sets are all ...

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I’ve got way too many pet peeves, Timmy! Maybe counseling would help?

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FELLEY ain’t a wurd !

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Pedal cams are some of the nicest reproduction parts I’ve ever seen. Kudos to whomever makes them. Sorry for the drift.

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DISREGARD ANY STAMPED LETTER(s) ON THE front side of the points set…..the C and A are stamped on the backside where I’m pointing. Yes, it’s confusing, but you will soon be an expert, and amaze and thrill your friends and associates with a great ignition system! Let us know when you pee your pants!

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This points set is for the 3 gear splitdorf aluminum front plate with mag mounted shelf on the side. NOT YOUR STYLE …… It’s marked “A” for anti clockwise or counterclockwise. Points are interchangeable, so never pass up a junker, it may be low mileage and have some good usable parts. 2A9C9D28-4151-4...

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This is the points set for the side drive like yours or the cross shaft front drive eismann, matco, Columbo, others. “ C” denotes clockwise…..** note the gap, ****

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I just tested mine holding it, turning the shaft about a quarter turn I got I nice little jolt. If spun, I’d probably wet my diaper. I can barely see the gap in the points, so I know yours is way too wide. Picture to come yet. I know you aren’t suppose to spin them fast unless all wired up. Wayne, I...

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Jacob, that points set MAY have had the red fiber replaced. It was many years ago, and can’t remember my name some days. I’ll take a pic of another set here later and post. You may be able to sand and polish that down just a bit to help. Yes, gap looks way too big to me.

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All good hints ! I always clamp some angle iron to the shaft, and TRUST BUT VERIFY dimensions of the new parts. Read up on press fit tolerances.

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Scott, that’s funny ! …..The definition of a rare disease is one that afflicts less than 200,000 people, so I’ll bet we all have a rare disease after all. A rare car is another matter ( at least in my opinion)

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Once again, Thanks Tom. Especially love seeing the ‘BEBACK’ light ! I see only one or two at the OCF every year

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Gosh, I love this site. My daughter takes care of a bunch of those critters, and I can’t wait to share my new peafowl, peahen and peacock knowledge. I made it this far only to learn something new today. so THANKS, She feeds hers cat food , so not sure I’d invite them in for thanksgiving.

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In the ‘ forwhatitsworth’ department. This a copy of the original Ford axle nut wrench, the 5z tool. Joe Andulics made it for me a long time ago. Notice the length. And you KNOW the service guy stood on it to tighten the nut. If it broke or stripped the threads, it wasn’t a big deal because a new ax...

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I’m sure no expurt on it Steve. I always figured a small dab will creep where it can, and leave the tight fitting stuff tight fitting. I don’t think slathering it on is the answer, just wanted to make that clear. Anyway, it always worked for me. I’ve never had a wheel come off and pass me up, either...

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Yes, a 1914 center door sedan is EXTREMELY RARE, since none were made. So, you got me there. I give up, OK , they are all rare. I even have people pass me driving my common stuff, telling me with their middle finger how rare it is.
Again, sorry to ruffle feathers.

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The original poster wondered aprox value on an auto that was restored almost 60 years ago, and admittedly better in pictures than in person. They didn’t make as many runabouts as tourings, originally. Still, with production in the millions, hardly rare. Very little Model T is rare , at least in my b...

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Rare is a word rarely used for model Ts , especially 1914 Ts. That’s like calling a center door rare. JMHO

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Invite them in for thanksgiving dinner, Timmy

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Not slathered, just a small dab, and I always do it at the keyway. JMHO

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A lot of guys screamed when Henry Lee suggested a dab of anti seize. I’ve done that my whole life with never a regret. Just sayin!

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Again, Slim………I see a whole lot of your definitive info put forth with little or no info other than your opinion. You do know factory literature is notoriously unreliable. AND , even worse is a small blurb from a magazine writer. There is another “researcher” who loves to rely on 3rd or 4th party ma...

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This little girl agrees with me !

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Here is a beauty, IMHO. Sorry, can’t give credit , just a pic I stole. I’ll say it again…..why would a company paint a body an almost black color?? It just makes no sense. Age and oxidation make the few surviving examples appear so dark. Again, just my opinion. Still waiting for slim to post some Fo...

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First class, no games, no drama , great value…….whatcha expect, he’s a buckeye !

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Not meant to defend or explain any company, but I’d say it’s very difficult to put instructions on how to upholster an auto or install a top. Auto trimmers are a real trade and it takes years to master the craft. Some would say it never can be mastered, but always improved on. Most model Ts are on t...

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Your co-pilot will never forget it! Nice pics, Ed

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Slim, you write with a lot of ford authority but I still see nothing other than your opinion, and some aged paint chips. There are maybe more blue 1912 fords around this area, than other places. They are all a bit different and all are beautiful. IMHO

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My point being, for everyone’s “opinion” , there is usually a counter opinion. Many of these things are unknowable, and just opinions.

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Again, opinions….. you know what they say about everyone having one. Here is a subtle example , made in my hometown of Elyria, ohio. Very subtle, huh?

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I’d like to see what ford called it. Do you have that in any of your archives?

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How much $$ Larry ? I’m willing to bet the original blue was very recognizable as blue……….but with now 110 years ( or in Eriks example, 60 years ) worth of environmental pollution, oxidation, and age to the clear body varnish, it would likely look almost black. Makes absolutely no sense to me to pai...

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They arms will also take the skin off your knuckles. Ask me how I know !

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That’s the one Henry should have made!

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M A, I’m almost certain I have a low steel firewall. I’ll look tomorrow, tmorsher@icloud.com to reach me. Tim

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It’s not at all complicated , Richard. If I can , ANYBODY can. Now if you tend to start wrenching when you get inside things, that’s another issue. My bigger issue. from past experience is sending things off and never seeing them again. Most small clock repair people aren’t spring chickens.

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For many decades , Larry and Bonnie Becker supplied model T enthusiasts with alternators for the model Ts and other old auto electrical parts. Perhaps you remember , Bonnie never went to a swap meet without her Pet Pink Pig, made from model t parts. She has gone to her reward, joining Larry in that ...

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I cannot speak for cousin Tim, but he is real busy with bigger clock work, and really doubt he would be interested. I’m in no way shape or form a clock repairman , but do love them and never pass on a pretty one. I’ve had a real good success rate with the following; I’ve always had good luck on just...

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Beautiful ! It’s great to see someone take on a challenge, not because it’s easy, but because it’s hard!

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That’s it, Kevin! I’m about to be self-unemployed again. It’s the 3rd or 4th time but this one may stick

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It’s not a big deal if you follow my business plan, Henry Lee

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John, I could be wrong as I am several times a day, but pretty sure planators were just underdrive like a ruckstell. The early ( Starr Planator) ones didn’t have the shift detent, which is not a big deal if you have an original shifter for them. The later ones (jumbo planator) have kind of a double ...

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On second glance, perhaps some sort of spring mechanism in the spokes?

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Check out the hubs ! Perhaps made by an outa work boilermaker

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For Trent and others…….unless you are afraid of the “correct police” , I went with a Ted Aschman tip years ago, and have never regretted it. I did this way before bifocal age, and agree the original bendix cover screws are a nightmare. Even worse is using the required lock washers. I’d say impossibl...

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Ryan, they are for accessory rear shocks. Maybe Dreadnaughts, maybe something else.

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Great minds stink alike!

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Even though there are child labor laws, that’s a real sweet picture. I’ve saved it.

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Do you have an air bleed hole, Kevin? Do you anneal a couple times? Copper or brass? Looks great, you’ll get it.

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Anyone traveling to Luray with a nice pair of older Firestone Tires, I will pay a premium and also have someone available to grab for me there. I’d like a pair ,10+ years old, oversized a plus, but flexible. Never used and well stored or very very nice used might be ok. I’ll pay new tire price plus ...

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You want the lock washer between the brass nut and the cable lug.

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Bruce, all this starter switch talk got me to spend a couple hours putting some together last night. Out of 4, I had enough really good parts to assemble 3 with some good stuff left over. These original ford starter switches used vulcanized paper insulators. There are modern things that will do the ...

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Pitch the old ones my way, please. Glad to pay for them + postage.

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Outside magneto is .018

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If those were my 3 choices, I’d give the one on the right to someone you don’t really care for much. I’d keep the middle one in your tool box in the remote chance you might need a spare. Better than nothing. On the one to the left, I’d turn the bottom bolts 180 degrees, clean up, and use for the res...

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Frank, I believe you would debate a signpost.

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The last wind chime sold from my daughter store. I’ll get another assembled when I get a couple free minutes.

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Unless they have changed, Frank, AAA hauled me off one of the Lake Erie islands to about an hour and a half away. With the ferry fees, it had to cost them 3 or 4 hundred dollars. Cost me nothing.

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Those are my all time favorite model T’s.

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