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Mark Gregush wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:29 pm
So I am going to ask the question again. What year and kind of antique car do you have and how about a photo?

I am up to 5 titled as T's with T engines, transmissions, and rears. No picture of one speedster which is in pieces, but four are shown with a reason they are NOT T's.

Thanks for all of your replies. Interesting stuff.

A rebuilt Stromberg OF runs $600 and up. A new 8N carburetor is $30 and runs strong on an 8N. So my last question is,

would an 8N carburetor run as well or better than a Stromberg OF on a Model T?

From left,

Lubriplate - correct for Ruckstells

M-533 - correct 600W for T rears

Cheap 80-90W gear oil - maybe as good as original?

Some say the modern oil can deteriorate the brass in the TT rear .

Love your hybrid doodlebug!

That is old and amazingly simple technology. Impressive that they figured out how to make it work so long ago. How about the carburetors that are actually considered good for a T, like the Stromberg OF. Does it have secret passages too? I am guessing not, part of the reason it is a superior carburet...

Data rolling in:

Rutting season
Female butt prints in the sand
Women watering garden nude

Somebody trying to tell us something?

Those passages are for the gasoline to flow through at idle when the throttle butterfly is partially closed. Fuel is drawn from the mixing chamber and it flows through the passages until it exits inside the throat of the carburetor via the 2 holes. As the throttle is opened more air flows through t...

Some pictures would be nice.

And welcome to The Forum!

That is a topic with some varied opinions. My T's have Ruckstells, I use this: https://www.modeltford.com/item/90W.aspx It is expensive, but for me it lasts forever. For a rear with no Ruckstell a heavier oil will work: https://www.modeltford.com/item/140W.aspx That stuff is right high too. I think ...

Can you tell from the print if it was male or female?

The passages shown in this picture.
What do they do?
How do they do it?
Does sealing them up after cleaning them out defeat their purpose?

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Believe it or not, in California it's now legal to salvage the meat from a deer that has been hit. The fresh ones of course. It's the first common sense legislation I've heard in years! Maybe there's Hope for this state..... I have been told that in the '60's if you hit a deer the State Police had ...

They are about the same level of technology. No accelerator circuit but the TSX Marvel Schebler copy does have an idle air adjustment and main jet adjustment. Would I run one on a T? NO, but then I have hundreds of carbs to choose from. As far as will it run well????? Probably about the same or sli...

Norman Kling wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:50 am
From the pictures it looks like it would be up draft. The manifold on the T is side draft, so it would require a change of the intake manifold to make it fit on a T.
Norm

I think I could make an adapter.

The question is, would the 8N carburetor perform better than the NH on a T?

Would one of these work better than an NH? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Carburetor-w-Gasket-For-Ford-Tractor-2N-8N-9N-Heavy-Duty-8N9510C-HD/332854195723?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item4d7fa7f60b:g:hwgAAOSwJSJdDJqg&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWay%2FmalSOsNNI1YQM6TLz3e9oInkrgdJ9FR%2BdW6bIWl...

How fast it can go and still stop safely? My first TT was stock with 7:1 rear and had a top speed of 17 mph, just like it was designed to have. Driveshaft whip and vibration were bad over 17 mph. It now has a 5:1 rear, a carrier bushing in the torque tube and probably runs 35. It stops very well wit...

There was a poster on The Forum who was making support brackets for Warfords. He made them both for T's and TT's. I bought the one for a TT and it fits perfectly. Maybe someone remembers who it was..

Each person has preferences. We don't have to agree. I get frustrated looking for a T on ebay and finding a Hot Rod without a single ford component. Matt Many "T's" on eBay look a lot like this. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1923-Ford-Model-T/123963700092?hash=item1cdccff37c:g:sl4AAOSwGj9dwGM7 Is a car ...

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Good, the more the better! Tell him "thanks". Big deer in that area too.

State regulations are confusing, but I think they can kill five a year, then buy some type of bonus tags and kill some more! BLAST away!!!

Are people using LEDs more and more nowadays? Welcome to The Forum! There are many here who really are experts on LED lighting for Model T's, but I am not one of them. I use modern LED's on a 12 V system for most of my lighting, and I have lots of lighting especially on the rear, along with turn si...

I am still holding off on getting my new car started. I want to have the time to devote to getting it done rather than putting up with interruptions. But I have knocked out a few projects and hopefully will get started on it this weekend. But I have been cogitating some. Last night I drove my TT Lim...

Just got back from the gym. There were six other cars on the road, five going the other direction and one which passed me in a short stretch which is dual lane with wide bike lanes and 45 mph limit. No deer, which was a surprise. The drive is five miles each way. Driving a Model T without upgraded l...

There is a far greater chance of being rear ended during daytime driving than at night in my T's. I just took these pictures of my T Limo which I am about to drive to the gym. I set the camera for "no flash". The LEDs are so bright that the camera automatically dumbs the brightness down. They are mu...

You're never "safe" in a Model T, and it is far worse at night, even if lit up like Las Vegas. A lot of my driving is at night or very early morning, midnight to 4:00 a.m. I feel safer at night than in the day. Often I drive ten miles without seeing another car on the road. Why do you feel that nig...

I think all modifications are fine for better safety and performance. But, I think it best to avoid modifications that are not reversible. For example, why should anyone care if you have an alternator, it can always be removed and replaced with a generator. If your car is a driver on modern roads, I...

We are supposed to get down to 32* early tomorrow morning. I will be sleeping in...

Thanks for posting all of that, it is amazing how talented some people are. One step at a time.

The pictures with reflections in the paint on the cab are interesting too.

That is going to be a top notch cab!

Right hand henway adjuster?

I remember the old timers talking about running their Model Ts through the cold northern winters. A trick they borrowed from the bush pilots was to keep the engine oil drained and heating on the stove. When it was time to go driving, you poured in the hot oil, and "instant warm engine." The antifre...

Ruxstel24 wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2019 12:40 pm
Tom Hicks, your new sedan should give you year round T driving in VA now !!

I like the way you think! I will have to find a period correct type of heater for it though.

There are a lot of meat hunters in Virginia. I find it lean, but when ground with wild boar or some pork it makes great burgers. There is also a big hunt for food banks. The deer have to be field dressed and taken to a game station, from there it goes to butchers and food banks. And you are absolute...

Snow is beautiful as long as it melts away the next day. I don't know how you guys do the really cold drives. 54* here, I just got back from the gym, not a problem. But when it gets below 50* an open car gets a little chilly for me, and I just can't do below 40* on a regular basis. Fortunately, even...

Ad far as I'm concerned, around here in NW. MO. there should be a bounty on Deer. In their infinite wisdom, the State has set limits on them for the hunters for many years because they are "Protected". In fact, they have become a huge hazard for travelers on our local highways. JMHO. Dave No bounty...

Halloween is close! Last year I got rained out, but the two years before that my wife and a friend of hers rode in the back of the Limo though three neighborhoods that I often drive. Those neighborhoods are parallel to the main road and have 25 mph speed limits, a lot of the people trick-or-treating...

Thank you for your comments, I don't think the seller took any shortcuts. He did not build this car for me, he built it for HIS touring car, so he wanted it right. And he knows antique cars, not just T's. So this will be a learning experience for me, for example, I didn't know T's used generators wi...

That is all the pictures for now. The upholstery is really too nice to sit on. I can't just work on her and then do a test drive, I have to take a shower and put on clean clothes first...

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No two people are going to describe the same car exactly the same way. I will be surprised by any substantial misrepresentations. The seller is a stand up guy. He offered to wash it, get it running, drain the oil, and drain the coolant. I told him I would rather wash it, that way I get to really kno...

Unloaded the car last night at 11:00. It went smoothly, but I had a long day and just got to look over the exterior before hitting the sack. What a BEAUTIFUL car! I am trying to wake up now so I can really check it out, but I might not get to it until this afternoon. I am excited about getting a nic...

Cleaning up is necessary, but I am not good at it. I tend to start a little project, have to stop for lack of materials or whatever, then go on to another project without putting the tools back because I will need them when I come back to the first project. So too many projects with tools and materi...

In 1968 when I was 22 (and yet immortal) I drove a 1915 Roadster, no side curtains, from Cleveland, Ohio, to Williamsburg, Virginia, in early January. No idea how cold it was, but one overnight in Pennsylvania it was jack up the rear wheel to crank it in the snow the next morning. I can attest that...

Even if the axle was marked as to ratio when made, the gears could have been changed. If you can turn the driveshaft you can determine the ratio by counting the number of turns of the wheel. But the value is determined by the condition of the gears, and you have to remove the gears to determine thei...

Tom pulling the car 150 ft with engine in gear likely did no damage or create any wear that could be detected. Starting a car after many years sitting, without pre-oiling the bearings is far more brutal on the babbit, and it is done regularly by people who don't give a second thought to it. From yo...

I am fairly new to T's, but I don't see how it can be good to force the engine to turn over by towing a T. And I don't see why loading or unloading one without forcing the engine and drivetrain would be complicated. But I will soon be unloading one with a locked up clutch, so maybe I will find out f...

For clarification, I did not start this thread, but I find it germane because I bought a T and in loading the clutch was locked up. It had to be moved about 150 feet both forward and backward with the engine being forced to turn after not running for 2 years. My concern is damage that may have been ...

By Royce Peterson on Sunday, May 27, 2007 - 10:22 pm: The only way a Model T can safely be towed on 4 wheels is at low speed - say less than 20 MPH - with the spark plugs removed, the throttle lever down and in high gear. Even that is dangerous and not worth it except maybe for a block or two. http:...

I installed a new windshield in my TT Limo. The old windshield was plate glass and had a 2" oak frame around it. The top of that frame was in my line of sight. The new windshield is of course laminated. It is higher to better block the wind and has no top frame. This is the first time I have install...

Tom, As much as you would like to hear someone tell you your engine is still good, there is NO possible way for anyone to know if they did damage to it not knowing how to properly deal with a "T"! Each case is different! God bless Bill https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/nationwide-single-ca...

I find threads like this very discouraging. I like "yes" or "no" answers. When the guys who really know can't agree it confuses me. I would like to know. Would towing a T with a locked up clutch a few hundred feet do any damage to the engine internals? None? Or yes immediate, or yes wear that will s...

I have never seen a kangaroo, but I can see how they would be a hazard. How large do they get? Do they jump in front of fast moving cars? Large Whitetail bucks can reach over 200 lbs, but around here I think 150 lb. would be considered pretty big. Big enough to do major damage to a car. Most deer st...

Rutting season has started here in Central Virginia. We have too many deer. I often drive between midnight and 4:00 a.m. and I have seen deer four out of my last five drives. I just got back from the gym and saw two groups of three, one standing on the side of the road and the other standing IN the ...

The car was moved about 150' with a lock up clutch. Not ideal, but hopefully no damage...

The car was picked up last Thursday and should be here at the end of this week. First on, last off, the carrier is based in Phoenix. So I have been very happy with my purchase, a car which nearly meets my specs for what I consider a good price. Note the paint is not perfect, and a few dings don't bo...

I drive open cars and find I am comfortable down to 50*F with a heavy coat, gloves, and wool cap. Below that I need a balaclava covering my face. I don't drive below 40* . When I get bundled up to drive below 40* I can't move very well and driving is not fun.

How cold do you drive?

Ross Lilliker does first class work. You will not be disappointed.

The master cylinder prevents me from mounting the shift lever for the Ruckstell:

Transport by Montway, $1600.

Pick up this Thursday, delivery the following week.

I'll keep you informed!

I removed the Limo's windshield, it was plate glass. And the frame across the top was right in my line of vision. I designed a new windshield and took the template to the glass shop, it should be ready for pick up later this week. In fact I bought two, I am going to put one on Elly Mae too, but I ha...

I would not even consider driving a Model T that has been sitting for two years 2,000 miles home. The likelihood of making the trip without a significant mechanical failure is just about zero. This is a car built for touring with engine/transmission rebuild by KMW four years ago, with less than 100...

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:30 am
Later the pans were FREE. Even at that the last did not leave till late Friday. Worst year for traffic since I moved to the Chocolate Field. Too much not car stuff on my row. Next year I may just park there! If there is a next year. Dan

Looking forward to seeing you at Luray!

Leete Tire Petersburg VA.

And I want to thank everyone for the good advice on Craig's list, there are a lot of scammers out there. I talked to the seller for a minute and knew he knew about model 'T's. Most scammers who list a T don't know anything about T's and will say they inherited it or whatever. This seller could descr...

Thanks for taking the time to post and label these pics, Steve. For those of us not at Hershey this year, these pics are great to see! Ditto. And since MTFCA has a site on site in Hershey, it seems that MTFCA could send someone around to take T related pictures and post them on the MTFCA Forum. LOT...

Tom, Congrats on the find of your new car. I knew one would turn up but didn't think it would be in your price range or close to home. I would think you could get it moved for $1.00 to $1.25/ mile in an enclosed trailer to your door or you could go get it and make a fun trip out of it. Please post ...

I know a lot of you guys were fortunate enough to go to Hershey this year!

How many Model T's did you see for sale?

How many of those T's had SCAT cranks?

Thanks

When Mr. Conger said I could find a car with a recent rebuild, SCAT crank, Stipe cam, high compression head, Ruckstell, auxiliary brakes, good body and good upholstery for $10,000 I was dubious. He also said it would take patience. I had three other T's to drive while waiting, so patience was not a ...

You are in an area of the country where the touring season - for all intentional purposes - has ended. Model T's in your area will be coming on the market at the most reasonable prices of the year between now and Spring. You don't know what is at Hershey unless you go - 250 miles is close. ( I had ...

Plus, although I saw some pictures, I bought it sight unseen. Did I screw up?

So, You started the other thread in April - six months ago. Hershey Fall Meet is going on right now - forum members are there - Model T's are there for sale. Hershey is 250 miles from you. You waited six months to buy a Model T that has not ran in a couple of years that is over 2000 miles from where...

I bought it! I am so excited! I can't wait to see it! The seller says I will really love how it runs once I get it going. It has not run in a couple of years, but has excellent compression! I wonder what freight will cost from Arizona to Virginia? Anyone ever used Zelle for money transfer? Not too d...

Thank you for taking the time to take and post pictures. It is really nice for those of us who couldn't attend to see a little of what we are missing!

I have been trying to find a T that meets my specs: https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2861 Fellow poster Novice found one on Craig's List that is pretty close to what I want. (Thanks Novice!) But it is across country. I don't know the seller. I am a bit leery of Craig's List. What is ...

Been aworkin on Granny's elixir jug for my Beverly Hillbilly's vehicle, Elly Mae.

Most of the shows in the Richmond area are not judged. I think they call them "cruise ins". No charge, no judges, no trophies. Just car guys with their cars, and people out to see the cars. Even then, many T guys don't seem to like them, too hot, or too much asphalt, they have seen it all, or whatev...

T owners seem to be a cranky bunch who love to complain about others, guess that makes them superior? It also helps to run down the value of T's, who would want to associate with them? I have been to a few car shows, WalMart, Kroger, the gym, the bank, HD the post office, most of my daily driving is...

I know some may think I am acting like a heathen when I question paying taxes on used items or to states other than my own.But tax money is public money and the public that lives in 1 state can not have a say in what is paid elsewhere. So there should be something to make sure there is no taxation ...

So if you buy a used item from an antique shop where someone has it on consignment, no sales tax should be charged? Ebay is an on-line shop, lots of people buy and sell their stuff in the shop, and apparently items sold in that shop are taxable. I have heard that eBay will only collect the tax if th...

So when I buy rope in Carolina the vendor should ask my zip code and then collect state and local taxes for my state and county and the tax money should be sent to my state and county?

There are usually some nice cars there. Wish I could make it.

If you go, please let me know if you see one that meets my specs:
https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2861

I see they are calling for rain Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, so 4X4 might be a good idea in the "parking lot".

It stinks. To put it nicely. ... I have yet to understand why I should pay sales tax to a state that I have no representation in either. The last time I was in Carolina they charged me state sales tax on some rope I bought. I don't live or vote in Carolina, and I have no representation in Carolina,...

There is no reason for eBay or any other vendor to be exempt from collecting sales tax. This should have been done years ago.

I think it is the same one Stan Howe recommends:

"No gravity feed carburetor should be installed on any engine with out a good quality filter just prior to the carburetor and a shutoff near it. "

https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic. ... 686#p35569

I like this one:

https://www.autozone.com/fuel-systems/p ... 352793_0_0

Every gravity fed carburetor needs a fuel filter. There are some who have had their car not run well, so they removed a fuel filter and then it ran fine. So they decided the filter was the problem. The DIRTY filter was the problem. When one removes a dirty filter it should be replaced with a new fil...

TOM. THANK YOU! You make My day with the photos of Your truck. what a work of art. I know it brings a smile to the face of all who see's it. Now all You need is a Mannequin of Granny in costume sitting in the rocker with a Shot Gun. I know it was a labor of love that will keep giving joy for many y...

Them young people are easy to run off. Just be the quintessential curmudgeonly geezer who is cranky. No problem. They ask a question like, "What year is it?" just to start a friendly conversation and then you have 'em! Say, "What the hell year do you think it is?" Or start some lie to see if you can...

More pictures...

Looks like You have four wheel disk brakes. That should send Granny's rocker flying if You haft to stop fast. Please post more pictures of Ellie mae. Thanks for the post and remembering our Veterans. No thanks needed for me, but I thank the VFW for having this show because I had a great time and me...

Usually I post car show stuff in OT, but so many give me crap there because they don't like car shows that I stopped posting them there. The moderators can decide if they want to move this. At Cars and Coffee last weekend a guy from VFW told me there was a show I might want to go to at McGuire Veter...

Thank you Steven!

and thank you Scott!

I think it interesting that there are lots of flag poles and that the street is so wide.

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