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Has anyone ever seen or heard of a figure of the number of Model T's which started life without a factory body. Gordon Mc Gregor (Ford Canada founder) stated a Ford Model T was the Factories chassis product to be adapted for any use not just the facory versions. Initially Ford Canada found the facto...

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Hi Floyd, Yep this is a standard approved rain gauge here in Australia. Used to be Imperial now marked in metric You can see inside the large cylinder is a measuring tube connected to the black funnel in the center. It's about an Inch diameter and 12 inches high it measures 250 mm of water. The oute...

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I live south of Mitch just below Sydney on the coast in Kiama. For the last week we have been getting huge anounts of rain each day. , most days over 12inches. Fortunately for me I live 100 yards from the ocean so no chance of being flooded out, yet that didn't stop our insurance company adding $10,...

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Yep, the sketch shows aircraft tires but by 1926 balloon tires were available and the picture shows disc wheels with ballon tires. Aircraft wheels had no tread which would give poor traction for a vehicle. An ad for 1926 shows a company named Baker making disc wheels for balloon tires, which look to...

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After enquiring further I found mention of a speedster with the balloon tires that was built in 1926/27. Here is a diagram from a 1926 publication in which they call it a "cross country Ford" and a poor newspaper photo of one being driven over rough ground. Again has anyone a better quality photo if...

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Allan, A look at the truck in the Kadina Museum would be interesting but I don't think there are different hubs. There is no mention of them in any spare parts books and I have never seen or heard of a mention on the forum or elsewhere in all my years around Model T Fords and I would have thought Br...

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In a discussion about tires on my Fronty a guy made mention of the use of large balloon tires on a speedster he had seen years ago. I have photo's of Model TT trucks with such tires, they were an option on late 26/27 trucks here in Australia and appear in Ford factory literature. Never seen a spedst...

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The Chase system is after the war , the Army test in the above photo was on Feb 2nd 1921. Chase started looking at it after 1917. Chase's tracked T was one idea looked at for an all terrain vehicle. I think the Henry Ford photo of the one in question is labeled correctly as 1922. Obviously informati...

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Hi Andrew, Not doing anything about snow track vehicles, just came across the photo and thought I would ask before I filed it under Snowmobiles/tracked vehicles. Puzzling as to what the builder would be thinking on this. Bombadier is interesting, bit late to the game, wonder if he knew anything abou...

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Might need the Snowmobile guys to jump in here, From what I have read Virgil White's Snowmobile is not this design? It uses twin rear wheels and ski's on the front axle. There are other makes also, none like this, most follow Virgils design. The Henry Ford just says its adapted as a snowmobile to na...

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This photo shows up on numerous sites without any real discussion, if it has been discussed here I don't seem to see any reference to these tracked T's except the Chase variety. Looking at the set up with the small rear geared axle it would be flat out doing more than crawling pace. A lot of work to...

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Hi Art and Ron, Thanks for replying to my post. I can't find any other magazine ( Model T Ford content ones there may be other types??) that insists on this requirement. Definately not in Australia, I actually have the opposite problem, the largest motor magazine for old cars here insists on paying ...

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As one of the Vintage Ford many early contributors I no longer submit articles, unless the club removes the stupid restrictions on what one has to do if they submit an article myself and many others won't be doing so. If you read the Vintage Ford Magazine section in MTFCA Forums, a contributor has t...

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Tom, One of the mud retreival systems would work great to gain traction on the ramp and into the trailer. A mat or other item would just tend to slip under the wheels/tracks. A set of straps tied to the Tracks would allow you to drive the snowmobile up the ramp. As you obviously don't have a problem...

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I am surpried no one has mentioned that the early Landaulet and Town Cars were being sold by Ford (USA & Canada) also as "taximeters". Ford realised these bodies were ideal for the Taxi trade. They also had a pre Model T verson in 1907 which was sold in England to Hansom Cab drivers who found them f...

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For the record, if its RHD the opposite is the case. as the drums are still turning the same way as LHD its a simpler answer. The reason being the room to work the bands around the drum is greater in both LHD and RHD hogshead because of the pedals position in the hogs head making it easier to do, so...

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Wayne, For you here is a bit of info. Ford Canada printed this sketch showing the routes used to ship Fords overseas in the 1920's . Most Canadian Fords left from Ontario Canada and went east mostly to New York and then onto the British Colonies. Those going west to Vancouver and onto Fiji and New Z...

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Wayne, England never supplied Fords to India they came from Canada. As Allan suggested India is possible though South Africa, Siam (Ceylon area) or the east coast of Africa where Kenya is is also possible.

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I have been running my T for 58 years and the head light glasses have only ever been held in with the metal rod - never a problem.
I don't think there ever was any sort of rubber or other material for the glass.

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Mark is spot on with his comments, to save the need to wash out, put the carbide into a plastic or glass contained with the carbide in it which will fit inside to catch the water. when you have finished remove it and wash out. a plastic bag would even work OK.

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As per usual it's Dan who has the answer, Dan you must have a great filing system, you always seem to be able to find the accessory ad from the day or an article or in this case the illustration, many thanks!!! No doubt, the description is a perfect fit. Amazing how many people/companies though they...

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From Franks specifications he supplied and also my article it appears the Ford chassis was used (254 cm is 100 inches) and the Mayfair probably used one of the available sliding transmissions such a the "Himico".
What would be great is a Photo of one of the Mayfair sedans.

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This article mentioned a new vehicle being built in Boston in 1924 called a "Mayfair" using Model T Ford parts. As per usual it didn't last too long (went bust in 1925 according to Clymer, see attached par of list)
Has anyone come across information on the Mayfair?

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Further investigations show the Stratton advert only appears to have been placed the once in the Fordowner April 1918 issue and no further mention anywhere else was ever seen ?? Having viewed the ad as John commented "You were supposed to pay them for that". Mr Stratton ( if he was the actual person...

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Here is a mention of the Model T's after the war finished. It's from a "Ford Owner and Dealer" magazine from 1920. Also some Model T's were altered to do other jobs beside the normal Ambulances and staff cars etc. such as turned into trains to move materials along small train track and even as a mob...

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Here is one Ford Ambulance which had it's wood crate turned in to an Ambulance body
I was reading earlier today about what happened to the Fords when the war ended I will see if it can be scanned and readable

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In case you don't have one here is a ad from 1920 for the Koupet Top

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Thanks for all those who have added some input. A lot clearer what actually is the situation. Interesting opinions by some of the photo. The short fan palm is actually a person ( most probably a soldier , the clearer photo of Jerry's is great) The rails are being used to make a assembly line but the...

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Terry, it would be interesting to see the photo of the vehicle being knocked down for shipment in a crate. Would you be able to scan and post it here on the forum? From memory very few Model T's sent over for the war ever returned. after both wars (and others since) equipment has been left behind so...

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This photo has appeared on ebay, it shows women and men working on Model T's at what appears to be an emergency assembly line during or after the first world war. Any one have an idea as to what is the story beind this? Possibly Model T Ford ambulances being rescued for reuse, what country might the...

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Photo's exist of numerous versions of shipping by rail. from complete cars less wheels, to chassis with and with out bodies, complete cars driven into box cars. It may be due to amount ordered or availability at factory at time of shipping, costs or some other reason. Same goes for overseas, some fu...

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I think Pat is overthinking what problems might arise when one has an enclosed Model T. Thousands of other bodies and gadgets to make them as such were in existance. I have such a body on a T (a Kamper) it is enclosed has side curtains which can be attached if weather is bad. There is no insulation ...

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As william stated the California Top is a solid roof.
Here is the Spark interior which shows it has a headlining.
I don't think the top was ever meant to be taken off even in summer.

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A California Top (In Australia and elsewhere also) is a different design to the top in question. Here is an ad for one avalable in Sydney in 1923 and a "Spark" ( a Ford rebadged which also offered the California Top) There were blinds which pulled down between the windscreen and the back curverd fix...

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There were several makers of such tops.
here are two versions

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Norm, I don't think your reasoning is valid, Lots of outside manufacturers produced similar products for the Model T. Longer wheel base chassis, with bodies often a lot more complicated and heavier than the Stratten which would possibly not weigh as much as a sedan version of a T. This design looks ...

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Some time ago I found reference to a new body for a Model T which had become available in 1919. The "design" if thats what one would call it if nothing else is "different'. The Australian news paper the report was in was as always the case never mentioned any actual details only saying " There is no...

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As Glyptal was made to be an insulator obviously it is meant to inhibit the transfer of heat as Kerry and Dave point out. big no - no is unless you are trying to add insuation, why are you putting it inside the motor anywhere? Unless the surface is extremely clean and there is no oil in the surface ...

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I see it now as a USA bodied Ford with RHD mechanics (if you have RHD hogshead along with RHD steering set up then the handbrake will also be on the right side). So it has to be a RHD chassis (about 20 other different parts involved to make RHD work besides the motor ) and they would be difficult to...

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Kevin, understood what you said "false door on the right side" so the point also is, is there is a normal front door on the left side? if so that would suggest Canadian or the body has a made up left front door as well as the right hand false door. Maybe the whole body is a reproduction.

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If it shows no signs of being a Canadian version, engine wrong as there is no "C" before the engine number and it looks to be otherwise a USA 1916 standard Ford body except for the fact the right siide has no front door but is instead blocked off as was the case for LHD versions, then possibly what ...

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Yep, common in RHD countries on non Factory bodied Fords , don't forget thousands of Model Ts never had a body from the factory when new, something most forget and think only a Factory made Ford is correct. But as to whether the blank RHD door is from a Ford factory built car or from some other sour...

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both dark green and dark blue require a black undercoat so that the actual color coat will cover with fewer coats. Both colors have terrible opacity ( the ability to block out) Black undercoat is always used under both colors never a grey or white primer As has been noted black under the upholstery ...

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A bit more information would help with your enquiry.
What is the engine number?
is it an actual 1916 motor?
Does it have "Made in USA" cast into the side of the block?
Photo's of some of the features would also help.
As is, I can think of several different answers as to what it may be.

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It would be logical that the early Model T's would have had a dashboard drilled for both left and right hand drive. Both T versions were made as far back as 1910. Initially Ford Detroit was producing the parts for both L&R hand vehicles for Canada and England. Right Hand for Canada to send to the Br...

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Just the other day I received these photo's of a similar T showing it unassembled after being painted Grey and the finished car. As noted by Allan and Wayne common in Australia for the Model T's to be painted Grey.

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Here is an Australian version of No 1. the chassis in this case was a Buick.

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Neil, The brushes are called "Mud Splashers" they are meant to prevent mud and water splashing pedestrians. Wait for the next issue of Spit and Polish there should be a story of them if the editor has space, Several countries made them compulsery in the 1920's and 1930's There fas over 130 patents t...

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I used to be a regular contributor to the Vontage Ford but I stopped sending articles when the now editor (and the MTFCA board) insisted on me signing a release agreement giving the article over to the MTFCA for them to control. I wrote it, I gave it to the club and the members, they get to read it ...

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Here is Allan's bracket, his son Anthony posted a photo of it on the old forum.

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The rims were originally zinc plated because of the rust problem but years of use removes the zinc. The rims are probably the most needed part of a vehicle that should be coated to stop rust. When it rains or when your wheels get wet water will enter inside between the tire and rim and remain there ...

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For the record in case someone in the future looks up Hayes wheels, here are some photo's of the 21" and 23" wheels, they are obviously demountable and I have three versions. The front outer edge of the felloe can be folded outwards, straight, or folded inwards. were there any non demountable Hayes ...

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I have several 36 spoke Hayes wheels on a shelf in the garage. From memory The Ex John Ahern Mercury speedster that Mike Bender now owns has them . When I was at the 2008 Centennial in Indiana Mike offered Bill Smith from Speedway Motors a ride around the race track one day and Bill refused as he sa...

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I have a collection of them from 1921 to 1927 about 70 in all.
For some reason none for 1925!!!
I use them for articles to club magazines I write articles for.

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I had to make seats and backrests for the Lamsteed Kamper. Both seat and backs had to be the same height as the backs become the second half of the beds when the sides are folded down. The only suitable springs available were too high as the backs of the seats when vertical sat behind their seat. I ...

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The wire wheels are export Hayes wheels, normal Hayes are 48 spoke Ford used cheaper 36 spoke wheels. When wire wheels were offed on the 26/27 cars to satisfy overseas customers ( and probably due to shortage in supply we purchased cheap Hayes wheels Canadian Fords were assembled with the starter/ g...

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the California V8

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I can't be the only one who only gets flat tires out on the road. Changing or putting new tires on at home is easy as one has all ones gear to do the job, especially compressed air. On the road it's different often a bad place where you have to stop when the tire blows, if your lucky a safe area to ...

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Chris, I would think most people would not know the Mullins Montier, here are a few photo's of it.

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I have a 1926 copy of an Australian spring maker setting chart which gives the measurement for a Model T Ford car front 7 leaf spring between bushing centre's as 31- 5/16 to 1/2 inch.

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Number 6 is definitely a T, I have the details in my files somewhere the car is RHD and Australian.

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These are early discs as has been pointed out. So attaching them to the spokes or wood felloe was the easy way to do it. When demountable wheels came along disc covers were available which went front and back of the wooden spokes. The Universal Body Company supplied such disc covers and in Australia...

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What year is the Town Car?
Hard to reply and give advice with so little information.
Neither cloth shade or patterned vinyl would be correct.

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Allan has found the clue, lacquer is a quick drying paint used then as it enabled a paint system to be simplified as it dried so fast contamination from dust etc rarely happened. it didn't need a drying room and could just continue down the assembly line to be further worked on. Drying happened so f...

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Bit of a drift in subject here, Is anyone interested in Model T Marine engines? I have several copies of articles and some photo's of marine motors sold on ebay over the years. If anyone wants to know more I can post some information here or they can email me. I wrote an article for the Vintage Ford...

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Ford Canada produced a Marine motor. It came as a self contained unit in a short chassis with marine conversion ready to drop in a boat.

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according to Franks posting the Wikipedia listing says the Model T plant which was in LA before the Model A one was built and still exists and is now converted to apartments.

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Hi Dan, Love the banana in the differential story, when I was in my teens that was always given as the way to quieten a diff if you wanted to sell it. Like the kerosene instead of gas the Model T was obviously able to run on it but we never had Elephant fat for the motor, no wonder that Ford Model T...

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Hi Dan, I'm surprised that there has been no replies to your posting about the Wanderwell Model T replica. When the Wanderwell story was discussed on the forum in 2010 there was plenty of interest by members. It appears things have changed in the last few years and there is little or no interest abo...

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Hi Chris, According to the "Ford Industries" book Manchester only supplied England, Scotland, Wales and Ulster. Ford Detroit shipped most parts from there to Manchester and also to other European countries, such as Copenhagen. The three ships that moved the parts were the "Oneida" "Onondaga" and the...

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The Entaro Buses were purchased by Japan after the earthquake in Japan in September 1923. all the roads and tram lines were destroyed and the TT chassis were ordered from Ford to provide transportation for the population. 800 TT chassis were ordered and delivered in January 1914 they were packed in ...

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Here is a Kelsey rim with separate lug, you can see the rim has a steel block which straddles the bolt to take the driving forces. The Ford rim has a similar design. Obviously a fixed lug rim gets the drive through the bolt/felloe connection and can't slip around each other.

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I must have been posting at the same time as Allan, I agree with him only one edge seats the rim this would spread the load evenly around the felloe and rim but the driving/braking forces are taken by either the bolts (if the rims have a fixed lug) or should have an insert in the rim to go over the ...

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My Kelsey felloes measure 1 - 15/16 inches

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An update for anyone interested. A set of original non adjustable lifters arrived today here in Australia. After placing an ad in the forum ads section I received several replies, especially one from Jim Riedy who offered me a set he had. He ended up sending them to a friend of mine in Colorado who ...

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I would think it unlikely that Cuba would be a place where Model T's were not only in great numbers in 1920 -27 as virtually every other city and country worldwide show figures where Fords after the war outnumbered other makes and often all other makes combined. By 1930 the T had passed its time and...

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Last week Michael Deichmann posted a photo of Ford crates/boxes offloaded in Copenhagen Denmark in the 1920's. They were to be then sent to the Ford factory for assembly. I have been looking at Fords' shipping methods and have a photo from a USA 1921 "Ford News" which shows similar crates on the doc...

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Have contacted Jim, a nice Model T Ford guy, so helpful, we are talking further.

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Problem solved, have found a set of adjustable lifters correct size, will use these. This motor will be kept in storage as the motor in the car is running perfectly at the moment. That motor is later (enclosed valve) but having found the correct open valve motor for the car it was a no brainer to pu...

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Thanks Jerry, will check that out.

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Allan, The size of the guides is not the problem, yes I could have the guides changed with liners but that still leaves me with the fact it appears to be impossible now to purchase "any" lifters at the moment, the adjustable ones are now not available and non adjustable ones have not been available ...

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New non adjustable lifters for open valve engine. .015 oversize if possible ( .030 alternate)
not being supplied by any of the sellers anymore,
has anyone a set they have no need for?

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I have a similar Town Car and my wife has been riding in it for 59 years and never had a problem sitting in the front seat, but a few other people have. I would suspect Frank's wife is not a particular fan of old cars and finds sitting high up off the ground with no door or window enclosing her foun...

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Here is another photo,
this one was taken in Russia

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Simon, I presume you have read the link posted by Joseph and Ray Green's posts. If you have you will have noticed that Ray's engine Number is C323 just 3 away from your block and it has a casting date which is 3-18-13. So I think you could comfortably declare your motor was made at the same time.

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Amazing how many times you see where someone has purchased a vehicle taken it home and stored it so badly need restoring again. I have never understood that. No point having any car if you don't have the means ( or inclination) to look after it properly. Coincidentally, yesterday I was visiting a ma...

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Why didn't that work?
Try again

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Graeme,
Is this an earlier photo of your car?

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the yu7? is courtesy of my cat who decided to walk across the keyboard

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Hi Nancy,yu7?
Thanks for the update on the Auto Bungaloafer, it's not often that we get detailed information of the people and their history in old photographs

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Graeme, Michael Terry is a real unsung hero, he and his mate Dick nearly didn't survive that trip. When you mentioned in your first post the radiator problems it immediately reminded me of Michael's trip. At one point they were driving over severely rough ground that prevented them from going more t...

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Graeme, Sounds like a great trip to do especially as you won't have to contend with others on their mobile (cell) phones as you would be if using normal roads . I am surprised no one has replied about your mention of wheel discs. Never heard mention of them adding strength to wooden wheels. They see...

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An update, I have contacted a active TT owner who has a 1927 TT. He confirms that the bracket with the threaded boss is on his truck and the position is such that it is impossible to use a bolt ( that's why the Boss is threaded) and it sits so close to the generator a nut couldn't be placed on the e...

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Don't know if this will be of any help. My RHD T's don't have adjustable screw ends they are bent rods. with the spark lever fully retarded the small lever on the bottom of the rod ( below the steering bracket) it vertical at 12o'clock. The commutator (RHD) connection is at 6 o'clock. the right angl...

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Adrian, I don't have an article on these brackets, as it was a long time ago I hand wrote the article, my wife typed it on a type writer and it was photocopied to make the club magazine. I should have a copy of the magazine which I will try to find. Just checked some of my files, the Canadian Ford p...

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Adrian, As you have a RHD TT it must be a Canadian made one, so if the steering bracket is different from Allan's you have a bracket that has so far not been noted. I did an article on the different brackets for our club magazine over 40 years ago and the only bracket that was noted was this particu...

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I have had this listed as a Truck bracket. It is a different angle to the cars. I think the wooden block is eliminated and a metal tube was placed between the chassis and the boss locating the tube when attaching.

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Chrome plating is a similar process to painting. Starting with the base metal ( brass steel or other suitable metals) it should be as smooth and shiny as possible. The better you finish it the easier and quicker it is to obtain a great finish. The copper is the primer/filler, it is used to gain adhe...

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In 2008 I shipped my Model T to America to drive to Richmond IN for the Centennial. I picked it up in Los Angeles and drove around LA for a week visiting friends. I stayed on the streets not the freeways and it was far nicer than driving around Sydney Australia. We then drove east via Barstow and ha...

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Steve, I have just emailed you lets see if works

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