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Cost of the materials, labor, and overhead for the quantity made and sold.

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No, no experience with one. But a T doesn't need one, and unless you are planning a Joad family grapes of wrath hood and front fender loaded Okie emigration, it is not needed and will not improve ride or performance. The stock model T front springs are adequate and give a very acceptable ride. An ad...

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I agree, original ford 6v headlights with good reflectors, good lenses, good bulbs, good ground, correctly pointed and focused are fine. But get any or all of those wrong and they are completly inadequate.

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Not available in California, and prohibitively expensive elsewhere.

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Shackle forward, nuts behind. Thats what the service manual depicts.

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Go to the mtfca home page, find the encyclopedia, and dig in. Great resource! Ford made different body styles in different years, some body styles were offerd only a couple of years, and for some, only one year. Roadsters, runabouts, and torpedoes are essently different names for the same thing, a t...

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John, I have always been happy with the origional Ford Set up with origional Hyat bearings.

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No new sources, you will have to salvage from another tank.

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I have usually stayed in ElReno, best room availability and the unusual big chain names. Once I stayed in a motel in Chickasha, lucked into that because of a last minute cancellation. I have also slept in my truck cap once, but Oklahoma can be very warm or very cold with rain or snow in March, somet...

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Old new day timers were bakalite, repro new day timers were plastic for some time, plastic was too soft and would wear out very fast. New production new day timers I have no experience with. In my experience, bakelite cannot be repaired with glue, plastic can often times be repaired with glue depend...

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Avoid the hack, go for the touring. Touring looks like a solid complete car, will have more value and better resale over the hack, and the 26-27 touring is one of the best model T's ever made. 26-27 is what Ford called the improved car. Better transmission brakes, better trans-block attachment make...

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A grinding noise is bad. Get the rear axle manual from MTFCI or Snyders or Langs Old Car Parts, or other model T parts vendor, tear it down and see what is going on.

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I couldnt find it in the manuals either.

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You need to buy and consult the Ford Service Manual and Ford Service Bulletins. Lots of good stuff there.

Headlights are difficult to take apart or put together...miserable job, sometimes takes two pairs of hands to wrestle the rim off or on.

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The mag ring does not rotate, it is bolted to the block. If all of the bendix has been removed, the starter should pull out.

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My advice is to get your 6 volt system functional and enjoy the as built Ford.

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No, don't touch them. If you see some material transfer between the points or you are feeling like a tune up is due then send them to a competent coil guy or take them to a club meeting where you can have some experienced help with the proper tools and tester, but regular owner performed maintenance...

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Yes, firewall is body color.

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There is no seal on top of the door. There is a trim piece that goes above the door on the body that is covered with headlining materal. There is a lip on the inside of the body above the door that the trim piece covers. The trim piece is a piece of sheet metal folded in half lengthwise. Headliner m...

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Nice job!

I was 14 when I started and most of the T owners were really old then. Now almost 50 years later most of the T owners are still really old.

Where in Michigan are you?

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Yes, hold motometer upright and wack the bulb upward with a rubber mallet (not something similar, a rubber mallet). Old mantenance manuals suggest rapping a motometer in a downward motion against the top of a car tire, but I never got that to work for me. Exercise patience, hot, cold, and wacking ma...

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Terry, Mark is correct for your specific question regarding lost fluid. However, many motometers that appear to have lost all or most of its fluid are still good. The fluid can separate into small dribs and drabs and some hide in the ends giving the appearance that the fluid is mostly gone and only ...

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Reflectors are silver plated. If the plating is intact, they will clean up like a mirror with silver polish.

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I would wait a few months untill the weather turns warm and sunny. Leave it in the sun to soften and become more pliable and you may be able to coax it back to shape. But for now, while it is cold, leave it alone.

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I would wait a few months untill the weather turns warm and sunny. Leave it in the sun to soften and become more pliable and you may be able to coax it back to shape. But for now, while it is cold, leave it alone.

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Mark, thats a big garage for 1919.

If you are going to heat your garage with a car in it you should elevate the flame to a min of 18" above the ground to keep it above possible gasoline vapor.

Nice video.

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Agree, pass on the hack!

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I bought mine from aircraft spruce.

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Mack, that wide bench seat may need some structural bracing added before you upholster it to limit the flexing.

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George, the 2.5 measurement is only for the ford timer. Crank the engine to place the piston at tdc, or just past tdc, then adjust your timer rod by the plug sparking at full retarded spark lever position.

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The Ditzler paint code for carmine red is in the encyclopedia under paint formulas.

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They made engines for cars, trucks, airplanes, industrial, farm machinery, and army tanks.

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Jim, The Ford Service Bulletins do have plans for a rear axle and drive shaft assembly stand that is made from 2x4's. Vol 1 pg 78 if someone can post it.

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Yes, oval ignition switch with two mounting holes.

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1919-1925

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Island Airlines flew Ford Trimotors from Port Clinton Ohio to Put-in-Bay island until the mid 1980's. The signs in question may or may not be real, but the airline and the trimotor connection is real.

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Perhaps there is merrit with regards to kevlar, but not for cotton lining.

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I will trade you wood for plastic, if you are intetested send me a pm.

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I use plastic coils, have had them for over 50 years. They do not swell in the coil box like wood. Why do you want to part them out?

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Ford Service Bulletin says to tape the two wires together in several places. I choose to twist/braid the two wires together like the horn and coil box wires are done.

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what are these bolts for, side curtain storage brackets?

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Just need 2.

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I do not think it is for a model t.

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It had holes added for a rectangular ignition switch but was configured for an oval ignition switch. Not a car, maybe a TT.

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Thanks for the responses. I have not seen some of those older threads, thanks Justin for the threads and pictures. Still not clear what the Ford method was for installing the top with or without underlayment. Looking at my 1928 Western Auto Catalog, the closed car top kits do not list an underlaymen...

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Mike, oval head.

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I was at the Benson Ford Research Center last week to document the C-cab roof construction in advance of my upcoming TT restoration project. Was able to get copies of all the wood top pieces, side curtain assembly, and visor. One of the things I was interested in learning is what the actual process ...

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Scrap

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Any Canadian medallions out there someone will part with?

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Hand crank coil tester.

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Yes, or reuse your old disc if that fits better.

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Tim, if I understand your post, advancing the timer does not increase the RPM. It usually doesn't. Advancing the gas will increase the RPM then you follow with advancing the spark to smooth out the engine. Except for starting the engine which has its own spark advance rules, you advance or retard th...

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Here is a picture of what I need.

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Looking to buy two 26-27 Ford bumper center medallions, round with Ford script and "Made in Canada" in restorable condition.
Jeff

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I agree with Mark, not bad gad, blocked fuel line.

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Thats it. Results thus far appear to indicate usa cars had a "made in USA" medallion, Australian export had none, Canadian had a "made in Canada" medallion.

I need to acquire 2 Canadian medallions, if anyone has some please send me a pm.

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The micrometer is in the t era stevens speed up tools catalog at the cimorelli ford publications site. T-504, pg 34. It uses different length pins for different bore sizes and feeler gauges to measure wear. Not user friendly and not one of their better ideas. It is not ford specific.

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The one in the box is a cylinder bore micrometer. Not the best tool for the job.

The other one is not in my model t era stevens catalog.

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Oh, not what I thought. Good to know.

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Thanks everyone. Now I know what to look for.

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Looks like it is an add-on to the stock Canadian tail light.

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My earlier post about Canadian improved car accessory bumpers got me thinking about other accessory differences between USA and Canadian/import model T's. I know there was a different stop/tail light but have never seen one, or may have seen one but didnt know what it was. If someone could post some...

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Great responses, thanks.

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I was unable to open the attachment.

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Great documentation John, gold star for you.

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Thanks for the picture.

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Since you ask, one model t is fun to drive and its limitations can be more charming than anoying. But, although one model t is fun, two model t's are not necessarily twice as fun. The model a provides better driving features: all wheel brakes, 3 speed tranny with clutch, more room for driver and pas...

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That is not an even trade, that coupe is worth half or less then your model a.

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Rolling chassis with an engine that is not frozen up, radiator, firewall, and steering column, $1500-$2000. A "fairly complete and running chassis" $2000-$3000. A title is a nice bonus but will not change the value. Wire wheels will bump the price up another $800.

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This is a question to the Canadian and export model T folks. For the 26-27 Ford accessory bumpers, what does the center medallion look like. Please post a picture if you can. I assume it is not Ford script with made in USA, or is it?

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Looking through Western Auto cataloges and Ford Dealer & Service Field magazines, it does not appear that people were drinking in cars, smoking yes, lots of ash trays and lighters as accessories. Also, a "cup" would not have been prevalent, everything came in bottles...beer, pop, milk, etc.

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Yikes! The left front wheel is hitting the fender, that is no way to treat a nice looking 104 year old car.

I wounder if he will remember this down the road when his pan ear breaks, or why is doors do not fit so well and stay latched anymore.

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William, that is not a model t. It has a few model t parts with a lot of other manufacturers parts from various years cobbled together into a big kids go-cart. There is no evidence from the pictures that there is actually a model t engine in there. If the radiator has not been molested it could be w...

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Be cautious. Anything advertised as a model t "coach" is highly suspect. Ford did not make a "coach", so the seller is not knowledgeable, or worse. If they do not know something as basic as the body style, they may not really know the year, or if it is actually a model t. Some people refer to all ol...

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C prefix is Canada. Numbers only went up to C780k in my book. The numbers 7 and 1 are sometimes misidentified on a dirty rusty block with poor lighting.
C10k would be 1913
C100k would be 1917
C700k would be 1926

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Art has it. Try reseating the schrader valve. Loosen them a couple of turns, then tighten.

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Looks like model A to me.

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Great picture.
That car has a starter since it has an electric tail light and a non starter car would have an oil tail lamp. Doubt any of the closed cars were non starters as there was no provisions for oil side or tail lamps.

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26-27 touring and roadster driver door.

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Matt, are you going to buy it or is it fair game?

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The Ben Martin repaired switch will be the long term solution, in the mean time I would just disconnect the headlight and tail light wires at the switch and make do untill the Martin rebuild shows up.

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Regarding the back strap, the drawing shows 19 at the top of the strap and the 21 would be the bottom of the strap.

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They are great, $1,000 up.

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I do not understand. All states require young children to be in the back seat. Although that may be an airbag thing, the back IS where kids sit. If his issue is there are no seatbelts, well, old cars are grandfathered out of that, so again where is his beef? I would chalk it up to an unknowledgable ...

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Same as a coupe or touring, hand tight with a short handled ratchet wrench. For head bolts torque matters, for most other bolts no.

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Champion x

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You guys are right, wood spoke hubs not wire wheel hubs.

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The items of value are the hassler shocks and the wire wheel hubs. Not real up to date on the current value of the shocks but they should be worth $250-$300 for the pair. If those are wire wheel hubs they are $150 each. The entire axle, shocks, and wheel hubs may be worth more as a package deal to t...

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I get mine at Aircraft Spruce.

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.032 and .051. I use the smaller wire for smaller applications and the larger wire for wishbone ball joint, flywheel bolts, differential bolts, and other larger bolts. Aircraft safety wire pliers will make a professional twist for a nice clean job. Many older posts regarding the best way to do safet...

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If memory serves me, the model a starter turns the same as the t starter but the bendix is on the starter side of the flywheel requiring the bendix to spin the opposite direction as a model t bendix. Bendix spring is also wound opposite to a model t spring.

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The early tt axles have a bead on the outer part of the pumpkin casting where the axle tube attaches. The early axles are the slow speed gearing. If the axle assy you are looking at does not have the bead it will likely be the high speed gearing. Thats the best you can do wothout turning the drivesh...

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I suspect the thermometer is not actually broken if the only symptom is red at the top of the tube. As others have written, the red can be coaxed back to the bottom. I have had success by alternating heating the base in boiling water and wacking in an upward direction the bottom of the probe with a ...

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Ryan, what is the problem with your thermometer?

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Please post a picture of the location the generator would go. I suspect you have a blanking plate that you can swap out for a generator mount, and there's a ring gear on the flywheel.

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C in front of the serial number indicates Canadian manufacture, 226k would be November 1919.

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Ford factory drawings at benson ford research center would answer that. There may very well be different dimensions for the same style windows. My experience with factory drawings is that there were many subtle changes for some parts even during a 12 month period, even for a short run style such as ...

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Rob, there is not much to the wood in the improved roadster, and none of it is visable after upholstered, so plans or patterns may not be all that necessary. Seat back and tack strips, no structural frame like the earlier T's.

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1922-23 chassis weighs 1080 lbs acording to the encyclopedia

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