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Thanks for all the information. Willie obviously missed or totally misread this thread. jb
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Post by Willie R » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:02 pm

Is it just that time of year or is the Model T forums dead ?
Seems no one is alive in the hobby expressing any enthusiasm or interest in helping others.

Work some of that red bearing grease into the flutes of the drill bit and drill slowly. The grease will capture most of the chips.

I always clean the contacts with alcohol or carb cleaner, something that was recommended here on the forum a number of years ago. jb

RV Where do you get those? Thanks, jb

Bob: They are reproductions made from 4140 steel, heat treated to Ford specs & surface ground, and are Ford dimensions EXCEPT 1/16" longer. They have a laser-etched trade mark, "GN" inside an oval mid-length on the axle. The portion inboard of the gear keeper is a slip fit on the gear so it's easy t...

Frank: Take a look at the Vowellart Image link in my Aug 30 post above. Over tightening the fan belt might have contributed to the failure shown in the original post. The modern rubber belts do not stretch as easily as the original leather belts, and if over tightened they do not relax/stretch like ...

I have re-keyed original cylinders, that's simple if you can find the correct old stock parts. (The original barrels varied in the location of guide for the slot in the key, the original tumblers exchange universally in original cylinders as far as I know.) The biggest challenge I faced was finding ...

Don: Do you have more information on the National Automobile Service Corp.? My '26 coupe had one of those badges on it when I bought it. Thanks, jb

My guess is those lock washers were used to move the fan closer to the radiator and/or to improve fan belt tracking. jb

Looks like an acrylic casting with original coil components, acrylic castings were very popular 'artwork' in the 1970, not that this one would not function. The cracking visible is common in 'old' acrylic pieces. IMHO, Acrylic would be a poor choice for coils in improved cars exposed to higher opera...

This drawing of a 1911 fan assembly appears to show the same fan, hub and shaft as the one in your pic. The nut or the female grease cup fitting served as a locknut to secure the shaft. The support bracket and belt tightening arrangement on you 16 is obviously different, the failed part and method o...

Joe: I sent you a message, will send info tomorrow 8/30, best, jb

Joe: 24" center to center on My '26 coupe. I made the holes slightly over 5/8, but I'd wait to drill those til you have the seat riser, just in case. There are sheet metal tabs folded over the bottom spring frame along the front and back of the spring that wood screw to the forward and rear rails of...

the stud end of that part is 13/32-16 tpi, the nut end is 3/8-16. best, jb

Frank: That is an excellent tip, thanks for sharing, jb

My inflation calculator shows $135 spent in 1962 is equivalent to $1158 in 2020, a cumulative inflation rate of 758%. Of course in comparing the value of an item like a radiator the comparison assumes identical attributes, materials, workmanship, etc. Dollar for dollar the comparison is valid, but r...

Thanks for sharing, amazing ~1,700 citations. jb

Don Booth shared a number of improved coupe restorations on prior forum posts. One product he used was Rust Bullet primer which he said could be sprayed or brushed. He does excellent work.

The original coil wrap was cotton twill (no adhesive) saturated with shellac after installation.

Steve, reply to your earlier post:  Post by jab35 » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:38 pm Steve: I've done one single stack, probably won't do another, the vendors do it better and faster. I would never roast or cook a core to clean it, too much risk of warping the frame. The original shellac was a bigger cha...

Thanks, Mark.

Has Mike Bender's Modelt-tips.com web site shut down or moved? Anyone know the current source for Mike's excellent videos? Thanks, jb

Steve: I've done one single stack, probably won't do another, the vendors do it better and faster. I would never roast or cook a core to clean it, too much risk of warping the frame. The original shellac was a bigger challenge than the oil, I washed off most of the oil with kerosene, let it dry and ...

This will help you. jb
https://modeltfordfix.com/adjusting-the ... patterson/

" Can not believe how much torque it takes to re-torque sometimes" Pls elaborate-- assuming less torque needed than what was applied previously? How much less, a few % lower, half as much, etc?

And should this be done hot or cold? Thanks, jb

Randy: When I replaced the bushings on the Bendix end as well as the brushplate end, the Bendix end bushing collar centered the brushes correctly on the armature. I then turned/shortened the brush end spacer to fit plus giving about 0.010" end play. If you can bolt up the starter in your pic you def...

Barry: This might help. app.php/gallery/image/1124

Or 17 feet circumference? Even so, still a very respectable tree, thanks for sharing the pics, jb

Larry: I've had straightened caps fit too tight too. The cylindrical piece of the cap needs to be loose in the tabs that attach it to the fluted cap top so the split sleeve can compress slightly when you insert it. If those tabs are crimped down tight the cap may be difficult to insert and may actua...

Bruce: The right and left firewall brackets attach to the frame at front of body. Two bolts either side front floorboard area pass thru body subframe to frame mounts on outside of frame rails. Two similar bolts at front of seat riser, two more similar bolts at rear of seat riser, under seat back cus...

Thanks, Steve.

Steve: Do you degrease and etch those cadmium plated items before painting? I find without doing this the paint looks good but is very fragile. jb

In the OP, " I am unable to fit a puller jaws onto it not enough room" suggests difficulty pulling the pinion. I'm curious how that might be accomplished. Never tried that without first removing u-joint and drive tube. regards, jb

My 26 coupe doors have two screws in top and 4 in middle and lower hinges both in door and pillar. Apologies to Dave for hijacking his WTB advert, best, jb

Not sure about Tudor but 28-29 pickup are same as 26-27 Coupe. It was GUNMAN63. jb

Bob: I figured you would have already looked and your comment on rust seemed appropriate. Bob Peterson (if I have the name correct) used to have a great selection of 26-27 body parts, but that was then an then is now or however that saying goes. Good luck on your project, jb

David: There's one in Iowa on e-bay, a little rusty and maybe pricey, but it looks complete, https://www.ebay.com/itm/Model-T-Door-1926-1927-Coupe-Sedan-1928-1929-Model-A-truck-Ford-Right-Side/333620825440?hash=item4dad59cd60:g:1xEAAOSw2TJe33tY IIRC, Bob Peterson in Northern MN, maybe Shelevn (sp?) ...

On my screen these devices appear to be a type of thickness measuring gage. The thumb lever on the handle end allows the gage to open for alignment on the piece being measured. The indicator on the far end operates from rack and pinion arrangement. Open the jaw, align anvils on the part being measur...

Jim: The single stop and bumper in the pic is pretty beat up, the coupe had a 1943 plate on it when I got it in 1967. I think the T spent its life on gravel roads in central Wisconsin.

Jim: The window regulator channel on my unmolested, unrestored '26 coupe with original glass appears similar to your modified part. The 'roller' is captive in the channel formed by the glass edge support and the 'L' piece. The 'L' piece is 12.25" long and begins 6" rearward of the forward edge of th...

Bill: Re-read Allan's post, tapered rollers require cone shape races to roll true. Cylindrical rollers against flat races have to 'skid' as others have noted. It's bronze for me. Drive careful everyone. jb

Ron "it seams to tighten up and the engine slowdown until it dies" Have you confirmed the engine is 'tight'? Immediately after it stalls can you still turn it over with the crank? IMHO, this sounds like fuel starvation, whatever the cause, good luck on the repair, hope it's simple. jb

From Lang's:
The answer our technical staff have produced is as follows.

The "roller" is fixed and slides in the window channel.

The new replacements appear to be riveted solidly to the arm, making it a slider, not a roller. jb

https://cdn.modeltford.com/i/c/476374l.jpg

John: refer to Ken's post in: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/25 ... 1346263614

By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Friday, August 10, 2012 - 06:07 pm:
It really isn't Rocket Science. If you're so inclined to get up from your PC, you can make one.

Has anyone out there measured the actual caster angle built into an original Ford NOS front spring perch? Is it 5.5 degrees or something less? I asked this question previously when this same topic was discussed. Mark is correct, the recommended linear measurement values do not give 5.5 degrees caste...

When I told them "this call is being recorded for security and quality assurance purposes" they called me a bad name and hung up! YMMV, jb

The '26-'27 T coupe doors were used on early model A pickups so those window regulators should be the same. jb

That's really nice work on the molding, thanks for posting all your progress reports. jb

Bob: I suspect that while the shim improved the mechanical connection between the transmission and drive shaft tube assembly, it also enhanced the acoustic coupling of the parts, essentially 'turning up the volume' of sounds already present. Drive careful, jb

Evaporust and associated products convert solid Iron oxides to water soluble Iron Chelate in a near-neutral pH solution, but do not react with the base metal like acids do. I have no association with Evaporust or Thermocure so this is NOT an endorsement on my part. From the posted link: "One of the ...

I've had some of those stinking plastic handled tool sets get moldy too. Some types of mold love those organic acids. jb

Perhaps you will be ok removing both, after replacing installing new berg's radiator and thoroughly cleaning engine head and block water passages. Personally, I would never disconnect fan, but some who post here do. Take care, jb

Steven, where/what are you measuring? Center to center line of spring eye to underside of the arch crown of the bottom leaf? Measuring the stock front spring on my '26 coupe, reversing the spring eye, while keeping the same spring arch contour, would lower the front end of the chassis 1-1/4". I'm su...

Sorry for the bad result. The gap problem is made worse by the fact magnetic 'coupling' is a function of the square of the gap distance, not a simple linear function of distance. Unfortunately, fixing the gap is a big deal, but likely will be necessary for the engine to run properly. Best, jb.

I think there may be some peaks in Alaska that would do. Probably no roads or T's up there though, drive careful everyone, jb.

IIRC, the BP decreases about 1 F per 500 ft increase in elevation, so at 16000 ft elevation 180F would be about right. The Curie point remains the same however, jb.

Before you take anything apart, take Scott C up on his offer. Good luck, all the best, jb

Also available here: https://www.mcmaster.com/cork-gasket-sheets

Darin: Many Funprojects items became (and remain) very scarce shortly after Birdhaven acquired the business. I'm thankful for what they do provide but waited over a year for a 6V FP regulator. jb

Philip: Please elaborate on the O-ring application. Specifically, O-ring dimensions and material, and chamfer geometry & depth. I assume the 0.010" O-ring 'crush' is against a 45 degree chamfer in the cam bore and the flat side of the hogshead? Thanks, jb

Thom: Wobble and Shaking are two sides of the same coin. You have shaking, have you measured or visually confirmed actual Wobble? If no wobble and no visible wheel damage, I'd look at balance issues with the new tire/wheel assembly. Are you using dynabeeds or similar? That's where I would start. Bes...

Richard: I'm surprised ( shocked, actually) that you do not maintain a pre-rusted inventory of that particular sheet metal so the finished parts match the car better. Nice work on the part by the way, I continue to enjoy your posts, pics, and artwork. best, jb

My '26 coupe, purchased in 1967 was the first car with my name on the title. The coupe is still undergoing restoration.

And both types are forgings, not just simple castings, correct?

Exhaust leak??

This archived post contains some relevant info. http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/233795.html

jb

William: The vendors are good about answering questions, Lang's has advised me on several occasions. ( I have no affiliation with Lang's, but they give me very good service.) The glass with edge rubber should fit inside the opening after interior upholstery is fitted. I'd be concerned about the glas...

William: Lang's offers rear and side coupe window rubber channel, p/#'s 8030 & 8035. The rear is $6.95 for an 80" long piece. https://www.modeltford.com/item/8030.aspx That's what I'd start with, other vendors may have it too. Good luck with your project, jb

Mack: Don't cut open those tanks unless they are totally rusted out. Those '26-'27 cowl tanks are an endangered species. Good luck with your project, jb

Rich: OK, I will bite. It's 1.125 Trillion miles. Others may have more accurate data, please share.

I think another interesting 'fact' would be how many Model T miles, and Model T passenger miles were logged by year, 1908 to present.

Drive careful, jb

On my screen this appears like a Babbitt shmear on the inner surface a shell type bearing. The thrust end appears to me to be loose from the block, making it appear to me as Babbitt slathered on the inside of a shell. If this is the case, was the block over-bored to accommodate the additional thickn...

Thanks, Chris. There's more stuff there at this moment. jb

Dave: My original '26 coup does not have a seal on the top hinge, the visor apparently gives some protection keeping most water out. If anything were sandwiched between the hinge and body my windshield would not close, it's a tight fit as it is. best, jb

Check the tire size, the 26-27 with split rims should be 440/450-21 tires with the 21 referring to 21" Rim; the demountable, non-split (clincher) rims should have 30-3 or 30-3 1/2, with the 30 referring to 30" rim size. The two types of rims do not interchange, if the wheels on the car are split rim...

This might be of use, good luck, jb
https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/app.php/gallery/image/1124

These? https://www.modeltford.com/item/D-NAIL.aspx A ring shank drywall nail is "close", but not perfect either. jb

Is it April already???

Richard: I would not force that 4th main. Dan Hatch is practically giving rebabbited ones away, bored undersize to your specifications and no core charge. best, jb

Thanks Chris and others. I'll catch the movie when it comes out, best, jb

The zip tie application is a great idea! Thanks for posting that, jb

Mark: The original Ford round tube radiator on my '26 coupe sits 5/16" back from the front top edge of the tank. FWIW, jb

Max: Thanks for sharing, this is really good information, and a considerable effort to produce, well done. Were both engines running at similar engine temperature and rpm, and using same viscosity oil in the side by side comparisons? The retained oil on your screen was a surprise to me, but as noted...

Anton suggests' backing off the setting' to correct for the added length. I'd say this is fine for this application, and you note Anton is keeping the 'extension' in line with the torque wrench handle, doing so simplifies the correction calculation. With the 'extension' in line with the handle as sh...

Great article. Don't use windex-type cleaners on a silvered reflector, use a quality silver flatware cleaner and hand buff. jb

Works fine, it's a ghost town compared to this place though.

Here's the home page, doubt the address is your problem but this link worked fine, take care, jb

https://modeltfordfix.com/

Debris/junk in the intake will richen the mixture, like partial choke closure. If I were dealing with this problem, I'd first check fuel flow by opening the carb drain, and if flow is 'good', indicating adequate supply from tank, I'd still remove the carb and clean and check everything, confirm/corr...

Mark: Remove the gear and check gear bore and shaft fit, if that's loose, a new pin isn't the cure. Also check the shaft and gear holes with a new pin. If the shaft and gear bore fit is acceptable, but the pin is not tight in both gear and shaft, you need to ream out the holes and install an oversiz...

I agree with Dick, however, 'what you didn't do last' is important too, I'm still concerned valve function/dysfunction may not have been adequately addressed earlier. Good luck, Steve, you are a good sport in sharing all this and maintaining a sense of humor when people offer you $5 for you car. Ple...

The overall length is one inch, the unthreaded portion is 0.187" diameter x 0.575" in length, 1/4-28 thread as stated. The length is important, the unthreaded portion passes thru a .187"+ hole in one side of the overflow tube and presses against the inside of that tube against the inside of the drai...

The MTFCA new website is simply superb! Thanks for everyone's work in providing this update. jb

Small correction on the vendors' list, Classtique has moved from Lino Lakes, MN. Link and phone # is unchanged
Current address:
Classtique Upholstery, Inc.
30350 Akerson St.
Lindstrom, MN 55045

Don Booth has restored several '26-'27 coupes over the past few years. You will find his posts useful, here is one example giving the info you seek, Good luck, jb
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/59 ... 1460655088

William: I assume yours is a FunProjects kit, referenced here: http://www.funprojects.com/products/5000RK.aspx The photo in the link shows a circular counterbore recess at the end of the channel to accommodate the carriage bolt head, your kit may not have that feature. I did a '26 kit some time back...

Susan: Are the cancelled/postponed museum events noted on the home page? It appears the homecoming announcement on the home page does not mention cancellation. Sorry to be a pain, I know you have plenty to do without people like me suggesting things. Thanks for all you do for our Model T community, ...

Good tips from Scott and others, thanks. My rant should have also stated that I'm thankful for the availability of these parts; the adjustment is more of an annoyance than anything, and a number of creative approaches have been offered. I've used everything from a $50,000.00 mechanical testing machi...

Why isn't the cushion spring gap set correctly and consistency by the manufacturer? I know, this is a rhetorical question, but making these things to spec isn't exactly rocket science ,,,,,. The need to adjust new parts with a hammer or vicegrip just seems wrong to me. Stay safe everyone, jb

Mike Bender has a good video demonstrating this technique. jb

Adrian: Bendix cover screw description (p/n 5059) is 14-24, not 1/4-24, these are NOT interchangeable as I noted earlier. I respectfully suggest the notes entry should reflect this fact, the #14 screw diameter is 0.242, not 15/64 (0.2344"). Again, not a criticism of your work, but I feel getting it ...

Thanks, Are the videos played in real time? Seems faster than ~30 mph. Of course I haven't driven anything is 2 weeks so my perspective may need recalibrating. Take care, jb

Scott: Thanks for sharing, I really enjoy you videos. How fast were you driving? Stay safe, jb

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