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IMHO- The installation was apparently too tight front to back, OR, the shaft was bent when it went in and pulled square by the caps, OR a combination of both. Pulling in a bent flange area or misalignment, then having the tranny hanging on it is pretty much akin to swinging a water bucket in circles...

Chances are that all cast iron has a micro-crack somewhere...it's the nature of the beast! As it is cooled it shrinks, and that makes internal stresses, that might decide to release tomorrow...might only want to go through just so many heat cycles and then say 'outta here'..might never let go. Bendi...

Jones, Just a little bit oh humor with Steve. “Ole Mr pepperdine ” owned and founded Western Auto of the era. Western Auto had the ability to darn near build a whole T with parts that never saw the light of a Ford factory….his catalogs were complete and fun to have one on the reference shelf. George...

I'm nowhere near my copy to do a lookup for you...but if you have a copy of 'Ole Mr. Pepperdine' early catalog...bet they might be in there...????????

Warbird... Notice your 'International' comment... There is a sister club to this, called Model T International. Their executive director is in Michigan, as I think now is their registered addy. Anyway, they were constantly producing bi-annual or so locator books, hard copy at that, with members name...

This comes around about once a decade or so... There has been a bit of consensus that the 'loss leaders' were run of the mill for improved car production every day available up until sometime in February of '26 (some 6 months in to 'improved car' production which started on August 26, 1925 according...

aha...the plot starts to unwind...thats an April of '26 engine block in there with that serial number if we agree the second digit is a '3'!

Welcome to the affliction! Really neat that the car has a multigenerational family history. For getting started, look at the water inlet on the driver side of the engine. At the top of it, is a cast iron flat spot with a sequence of numbers stamped firm. Compare that number to the title you have in ...

Jim, Good luck with it. I did not have an elective knee replacement, but did have a patella that shattered into over 50 pieces and while I hung in a trauma frame for several days...a bright young ortho decided he was going to rebuild the patella using surgical superglue, new xrays when he ran out of...

Will, I'm willing to be corrected, but my first thought was that the 50" unit was meant for the brass era cars, and the later cars had different lengths depending on where the pickup or head was located??? I 'think' like 3 different sizes were around with the worst case being some 60" long??? Hopefu...

As noted, the Jeep ones are reasonably priced and look pretty 'era'. I recently bought one of the cheap version repro T on bay-buy it now- it is fine but I needed to rework the 'snap action' to hold the can tight enough. As to a whacky price? It just takes two....lol...been there done that. I had lo...

Try looking up factory #T-18. It’s what that number is also listed as in the sometimes same…sometimes not world of Ford.

T-18 2527 Differential pinion spider bushing "Z" bronze. 1-1/16" brazed bronze tubing bearing metal

Not to be a spoil sport, but motor-head CR calcs for everything have about 20 odd ways to ‘xplain! Depending on where you learned your knowledge...lol There are some who just take full volume at bottom of stroke, and then remaining volume at top of stroke on a compression stroke. That’s one way. The...

Once upon a time...there was a Model T...chassis only and as it sat at the side of the road, I pulled up a seat. Yup, it had a real battery box with a real lid. I heard the sizzle for a while and while wondering what the noise was something burned a hole in my pants! I've had a bunch of T's since......

Took some lookin' 'cause I didn't recall seeing any...

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I'll second, third and fourth Steve Jelf suggestion. Back in the 70's I was taught that you hang the tailpipe by a string at the back, you tighten the nut by hand while you wiggle and jiggle the bent area of the pipe to lay right and proper. then you use the wrench to seat it. (I started with a pipe...

That really sux... Someone on staff with a fine tooth comb should go through the application and point out any reference to DEI or distressed neighborhood, or distressed city as part of the consideration? The official announcement says the funding to NEH has not stopped, just being 'reallocated' in ...

Actually, we today have no idea whatsoever as to why Ford specified ‘grooving’ in the way he did. Was it his Hungarian team and conventional wisdom of the time from over there? For the most part Ford ‘grooving’ techniques used are counter to grooving specified in modern manuals. I’ve never found the...

Jerry…

I still look for Austin Mitchell’s to show up. Austin lived in Elgin Illinois and his Delivery Car was really, really nice too….

There was a tool 'box' actually furnished with the tool sets. The T part number was T1923 and a drawing does exist. The encyclopedia says used from 1908-1920. The tool box was 'corrugated boxboard' and most take it that the tools were placed in it at the factory, the box hog tied with butcher twine,...

As to the strength/deflection/allowable stress/etc/etc characteristics compared to a forged alloy shaft Bill Dubats and I had long conversations back then. We collectively determined that his increase in static inertia due to the built in weights offset the very minor known shortcomings in comparing...

Nice display set !!!!

If you hum a few bars about where in NJ, you might be surprised about the guys who would be willing to stop over and give a view if not play a bit for you...T guys are generally like that. Unfortunately wrong time of the year for me...but I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows yet another guy...lo...

My many thanks to those who posted above, those who sent emails with 'have some', and those who sent me emails wanting more info on the geometry involved that make the late 'teen' Roadster special. I appreciate the efforts that the community draws upon. A correct single iron has been found and purch...

Allan, The break has me stumped too...the broken one is still hanging, with the chunk held by the fender bracket holder until I find one to replace it with. I was sort of hoping someone would say..."I have a pair me boy, been saving them for 40 years to build a speedster that will never happen...Don...

Looking for 1915 Roadster Ford part # T5563, Factory Number 4804E Right rear fender iron. Used 13-19 or so... This is NOT for the Touring car version! Roadsters and Couplet used unique irons. No need to suggest using a Touring and cold forming the arch to 'fit' the hole in the fender and the anchor ...

Whether or not the OP goes for it....or not... To Marry 15 'bits to his already mounted on frame '27 complete body... Motor and tranny and rear? ...a direct swap out...the springs may be your issue as the 26-27 frame rear crossmember is different and made to ride 1" lower or so. If he has 27 floorbo...

While it is obvious the metal band needs some work...I'll throw another idea on the heap! Did you use new springs? I have found the new replacement springs to be too aggressive in spring-force and at times wanting to ride up the face of the ear lug. (As yours shows). While correcting the arc of the ...

Allan,

Nice score!

I know what the device is, but care to share what that re-brazed part with adjusting screw is for? Thanks...

I suspect that for some reason your 'band' is NOT making full contact with the drum and the 'ears' are teeter-tottering when you step on the brake causing a much smaller contact area with the drum. At least that is what the pictures appear to be. Did you install the bands with the hogshead off? That...

A couple of things come to mind. Was any of it 'new' in more recent years? If so, it might have just been pulled together to work. No harm, no foul, but you do enough of these things you find that the near perfect manifolds and the new bronze nuts need a little bit of dry fitting. I'm pretty sure th...

Here is a set that took me years to assemble for a representative 1915 set of tools. Yes, the tire irons may not be correct...but at the same time this set was restored to be functional and roadside if needed. As a guy who held the land turtle record on changing a clincher tube that eventually becam...

The family ‘15 has always been thought to be mostly original so I had the current steward the youngest son take a look. None of the above, whatever…no solder stains anywhere on the brass…the ‘ground’ wire comes back thru the clash strip grommet, runs under the clash strip and pops out by the hood fo...

This is how I did my '19 Hack. It has everything turn/4-way/brake.

Works well, only had issue when I tried full LED all the way around...made some incandescent all is good...

Just take the 100/200/300/400 connector points and make a trailer plug...

Larry,

If still magneto …. The ‘ground’ is the wire that does NOT run across the radiator tube, it’s the other one from the lamp connector. This one for ‘correct’ purposes runs down and is held by the drivers side, radiator support stud.

Sorry, Dan beat me by a few seconds…lol…can’t delete

Hey Moxie, Sorry I missed Country Living Days...but it sure was a beautiful day (we are up north) and we found ourselves doing the Woodstown Central Railroad in deep South Jersey for the leaf peeper ride in a 1931 fully restored and like new Jersey Central consist through the woods. If I ever find w...

I’m proud... Folks often question can the T ‘affliction’ move down through the generations. Here are some pic’s to show that it can. Backstory, over 40 years I collected a ‘few’, to the point some were definitely garage-queens since I never sold anything along the way. My youngest son placed ‘dibs’ ...

I can only speak for the Suncoast area of Florida. I live less than a mile in on the dirt side right where that little hump jutting out to the Gulf is on the Pinellas Cty map due west of Tampa. In that mile, we bump up to 37 ft above sea level. I came through OK and dry...wind got in the attic and c...

As Jerry points out...#14 was a standard size when the Model T was designed. (There were further # sizes even higher but for some reason it appears that Ford chose to use the emerging SAE system for his bigger ones and thus the crossover). While SAE did exist and Ford was even an officer in the era ...

Gee, I'm sorry...I didn't think I was 'dissing' the place. Someone was stating that they felt it was far from the same, I offered a personal anecdote of a guy who has been going since the late 60's and why my interest has seemingly waned...admittedly mostly on me and my own state of health. Right af...

Frankly, I think there are a lot more old folks that have a harder time walking the great expanse, especially over the many days, too much post Kennedy uninteresting stuff for most old guys to add to the distance needed to walk...and the same old guys have come to the conclusion that if it rains, th...

I feel for you and hope for the best. What happens next is sort of on the way your State insurance is structured. Obvious may not be obvious. An example, Florida. Was pulling a fancy open kneel down from Australia trailer with a Porsche GT3 on it. Making left turn down Sarasota way, one of those two...

The issue is that there are at least two different makers of replacement pins, and BOTH are serviceable, one being slightly more pure in roundness than the other. That said, let's stop for a moment and reflect. The original Ford design called for a 0.002"-0.003" interference fit between the raised p...

They are #14-24 and yes....unique. Someone once wrote that they installed the 3 o'clock screw !/2 way without the Bendix cover in place, then turned one hole on the Bendix cover to a notch...wiggled it in place, then tightened. I have never tried this one myself... I usually just push the screw thro...

Bill, I found a place on line that if you did the graphic in MS Paint, he'd photo-etch it on black finished brass. Unfortunately, I don't remember where. He even drilled the mounting holes! However, I did include the engine number, the registration number (wink, title number), and also the body seri...

Was there a 1913 Green? Could be...as it aged. There was a multi coat system in use in that era. There was what was called 'the ground' coat and that was called that because it was the BASE coat. Usually it was white, with ground pigment, generally thought to be black but...but...there were probably...

Find an online Boat Lettering place and play with their on-line designer.

They have a visualize before you buy feature. (BOATLETTERINGTOYOU.COM is one, there are many so shop)

They come out all proper spaced, and cut-out slit, you can add shadow to any text, etc

Seriously... Pull the hogshead! You WILL be done quicker ... lol. Like someone mentioned, pull the firewall too. You may or may not have to remove the exhaust manifold, so have ring gaskets at the ready. Can demountable be made to work through the door? YES...but unless you absolutely know the drill...

Pay attention the PT!!! If you can handle it, double down on the home aspect. When you are all done the prescribed PT (you time out)...then decide where you are, and talk to your Dr...if he agrees that your body will 'benefit' from more PT you can start all over for a second round, or third... Since...

Since folks read this stuff... Viton made right, and surface finished 'right' and at the 'right' hardness is a good product for resistance to gasolines and the bio fuels even in an on/off application...however...wipe it with something like MEK or other solvents and its internal properties go 'poof' ...

Steve talks about AI Bots getting things wrong and confusing. I don't know it anyone has had this experience....we did, we laughed... We have an Alexa small tower in the kitchen. We then went with a Firestick for the TV streaming in the living room that also had Alexa. They got into a debate one day...

Edited to delete…I had posted a bit of a story that was based on some unknowns and maybe a misspoke or two before I said I could help, but 3-4 weeks out. Ben’s Thursday post cleared up the unknowns saying Suncoast had it covered.

Larry, I use to be real keen professionally on paints and their science but as things now change monthly on paint theory I decided to not use any more neurons on 'chatter' and just trust a local paint guy for whatever is current. FWIW Centauri was the best single stage of its day. Or was that 'days'...

Hey Ben, I'm going to take a wild long swing at this one. If this is a MTFCA forum clip or even a clip from the old MTFCI forum... Dave D. most likely is Dave Dufault of New Hampshire. Not sure of Daves present status in life...but would generally say he use to be very savvy on things like carbs, of...

Hey Bob, Just sayin...it seems you are saying that most of the time it does not work on mag, and some of the time it works but feeble on mag? Did I get that right? While everyone else is suggesting a full magnet recharge...I'd say try something else first, it may not help but it is fairly easy and r...

For a '15 that will start on mag and run on mag, but always started easier with outside juice...

I did this for 20 years...starting only, fresh one every spring, always made it to fall...lol

Everybody has an opinion :D That's what makes the world go around. To me and what I recommend is that Kevlar is not for the novice...unless...you mount them a tad loose and bring them in a click at a time until you get the action that works for all occasions. A bit of work time wise, but you are lea...

Mark, Others who have done it can provide numbers...but advancing the cam by that amount should move the peak torque down to about 22MPH (standard rear) from the factory claimed 25 MPH. In the process crunch all of the torque points at the lower RPM towards the lower speeds...so...the torque for acc...

I'll chime in with opinion - everybody has one. :D :lol: :D My held view is that the original boys just did what they knew how to do or what their professor at the Hungarian institute suggested they do. In most cases it worked, but for the life of me all these other experts have never been able to e...

There was a Model T tool only website a long time ago. I imagine the 'webmaster' may have somewhere along the line passed and then the site went 'poof'. May want to try web archive tools to see if it still may be seen. John Regan started to be more definitive with a series he originally had on his F...

Congratulations Ron...that really is a significant number!

BRAVO...

Nice score ...but...kind of like an HCCT. At $400 or so, it was an idea for 'someday' on a just because basis. At 675-800 it was but a nice to have and usually a walk on by. At now 1000+ it's a pfft for me (besides it's weighing a ton. I also know a guy who has one!). Told myself I would build one w...

Schwalm's in PA use to do a decent rebuild to a T, either short block or long block. Their specialty is A blocks, A power plants and the T's were a bit of fill in. Good work, great work, never heard anyone say anything bad about their work. In the day, Schwalms would take on T-tranny work, T differe...

While I can fully agree with what others have said about a full thorough examination of everything...a quick diagnosis would be to lock the steering shaft with cushioned grips and note left/right rotation of the steering wheel from there. A little bit is expected but not too much. Lots of 'left/righ...

Bob,

I think Dave already has my number? Prob best if present owner shows him how that one behaves in a big parking lot? They had a 3rd party magneto, Bosch I believe and I would not remember how to set that for start/run..

While I've learned to drive just about anything that exists...driving a Metz 22 is totally different and NOT at all akin to a T. For that experience, I'd recommend that you search around San Diego and see if someone can offer you a ride in theirs. The friction drive is a bit unique, actually a marve...

Moxie & Steve have it... Set vertical for neutral position...then pull past vertical for the service brakes to grab. Hits the seat before brakes can stop the rotation? Change the turnbuckle clevis linkage on each side underneath maybe one turn at a time until it does. (I got so frustrated the first ...

Hey Allan,

If you ever run into needing a PANTONE equivalent for a color in the future...just shout out...

I DO take color way too seriously...the master references for most systems are never far from me...

Edwin, I have spent literally man-years trying to reverse engineer colors that Ford actually used. Even had friends at a national paint supplier lab use their fancy scopes and personal knowledge to look at old actual pigment and back out pigment aging (earth tone pigments age yellow all by themselve...

I could be wrong but I don't think too many T folks are in the Naples area. A question...who maintains the Edison T at Ft. Myers? That may be a lead to T people in the area. Since you may need to resolve this remote...I'd look at it this way were I to be the guy who came over (Not...too far away) Yo...

Several things came together near simultaneous. 1- I went to Drexel University and at the time the Kinematics course had great lectures and homework! Studying 'cams' - let's look at how the Model T cam works and works without bounce skipping! Studying springs...you guessed it. Studying industrial br...

Allan, You are correct, the real bolts have closer to a Bishops Mitre/High Dome shape to them in cross section and are full size shank before threads. Nuts of course have their own story as old nuts and new nuts tend to have different 'across flats' dimensions and sometimes even differing thicknesse...

Randy, Someone may know exactly what they are and who made them. Listen to them first and foremost... I'm just shooting my quiver, being an exec with one of the foremost foundries in the world. (Present customer base includes Benz, Brembo, TRW, etc.) To the best of my knowledge...the only 'currently...

Part of the mystery MAY be in your last reply, "Starts well when warm...sit a few days"...nada Have you cleaned and lubed your timer? IF you have a front cam leak (or some dust mixed in the squirt oil) and IF that puts a film on the contacts of the timer that is non-conductive, the 'wiper/roller/fla...

Hey Terry, I don't have an answer before me, and sorry for a smart Alec/hijack answer...but I chuckled at the mere thought, and thats a good thing. Answer to 1- When you blow oil or lose compression. Answer to 2- when you run out of shims and don't take kindly to filing the caps. Sorry, and to make ...

Tom, Finding a friend is always the easiest way...that said...let's go to ground zero. Do you think that your coils are good? The answer has to be yes to take advantage of what follows. I am not a believer in using 12V to get around the issue. The previous owner of my 15 used to use a 12V dry cell a...

Thanks all, I never noticed when I bought the 4 ‘rollers’ at Hershey that this one was different until today.

I’ll prob take Allan excellent advice and run it backwards on the next time I use a ‘roll’

I have ‘rollers’ that I’ve never worried too much about. Today after moving then out of the garage for a week and then placing them back today. Look at the picture, please. This been welded? Or am I missing on how this particular latch works? Tube spun as you can see, at least want to straighten it ...

Just sharing, My own experience since the Bendix unobtainium issues of a decade ago is that these new 'better built' Bendix parts especially the Woodruff key are NOT deburred completely and really need to be 'dressed' a bit ever so slightly before use. (viz...the Woodruff key will not go in a new ar...

Bob, That was so pathetic, I winch til I cry even today...who wooda' thunk? The saving grace was that somehow we figured it out in the course of a day- that drilled through cam...not having any pre-warning like what this forum can do now! As to that Hack you mention, it doesn't see the light of day ...

Just as a point of reference, there were also a series of sales bulletins done in similar format. I.E. like monthly or bi-monthly, early 20's, punched for inclusion in a like folder. You don't hear about them as originals are apparently as rare as hens teeth...so if folks see something that looks li...

Sharing my story...the previous owner of my hack was from Central New Jersey and the Hack was either an Alpha test or a Beta test between him and Mike. Car for sale, it was a heavy wooden Hack that performed like a Speedster and had just done 90 miles a few days before. Decided to buy the car and wa...

The 'value' answer is to purchase new. It's the best value for buck to be found...sooo much gets resolved in and of itself just by going in that direction. Before I close my comment...one more thought for 'youngin' and 'newbies'. There was a time stuff like this was discussed, even debated, openly o...

So very good to hear your comments Steve. I'll start looking more frequently, or start to catch 'dauntless geezer blog' again, as they were both informative and appreciated. FWIW, I hope that your recovery continues strong. I have hesitated from commenting from a personal perspective due to all expe...

If you are out to change the tube (and not just patch it), AND, its a metal stem tube...my experience is it is usually a lot quicker and a lot less cussin' if you just pull the complete tire with tube inside and treat it as new. Those stems just seem to be about 1/4" too long and too ornery otherwise.

See we are not getting too many replies and advices... Last double barrel that I rebuilt I used the teflon valve stem packing string like an old school plumber would use on a water valve on the small barrel seal. Took a couple of tries as it would try to extrude up the plunger stem above the nut...I...

Paperman, Keep in mind that the gang on here usually just loves to buy low and sell high...:D :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Ask the question with reverse - like - I have this chassis to sell with that picture and... :lol: So...for me who has done this stuff more often than my wife likes...I would have sta...

Yes Allan I do believe your advice is even more correct. In my case the decision was made late at night, I just took a full hide belt from the closet and 'crafted' the pads to fit. Had I thought it through, or now that I hear your way, I too would have gone with EPDM Rubber. (The flat roof stuff...i...

I seem to recall that while mentally it sounds like a good idea...you can't do it! I know, I tried and for some reason, even after some filing here and there, the hood would just not sit well. Struggled for hours...gave up...went back to leather pads and whoosh...all done perfect hood fit...fore and...

My son's both knew how to drive a T from an early age...like still single digit. Then when they were teens it was 'ehh!' Then when they were young adults it was still 'ehh!' and 'going for a ride' was something to do when they visited 'Dad's house' during a weekend afternoon and taking 10 minutes to...

The number you are chasing is for pretty much all new...a full height clutch pack...and a spring having the proper force load. Also, is the quantity of clutch plates correct? Yes you need to check for interference from other areas or something else dragging...but after that the tune in is exactly as...

Looks like that’s the All You Can Eat Korean place in LaHabra?

Looks like it was Shabu-shabu with a bunch of Kimchee sides? Go Steve!!!!!

I've done it by myself on a Fordor. Undo the body bolts. Jack the body corners to get a 2x4 block between the body rail and chassis rails. Slide a long 2x4 across pretty much in the locations Norm shows. Jack up and crib the extended 'stick'. Wheel the chassis out from underneath. Reverse process la...

The reproduction manifolds are probably the best value buy going for anything T. Good iron, straight- seem to stay straight after numerous heat cycles. Excellent threads for a used packing nut. (a new packing nut may need to be lapped on in a vice first- on the nut think the nut threads are made a l...

I know this is going to sound a bit unsafe, but it works for me. Round handle, 90 degree valve. Works good for a while, then wants to stick and/or leak. For the 'stick' on opening, a pull tension upwards while turning, case closed...works and does not stick. For the leak on closing, when closed I gi...

Wayne is absolutely correct in my view. Over the years I have managed to convince myself that starting in about April of 25, on closed cars only…’26 items started to integrate themselves into builds. As Wayne pointed out…decades ago there was a hard line view….‘square’ shields only went with improve...

I'd go along with the rattle can Epoxy Rustoleum Appliance Enamel. Jim in Bartow posted his experiments a while back...it looked good, seemed to last long enough, so I had a case where the car was 'done' when I bought it...it's rear fenders still in prime, and the hood still in prime. State DMV woul...

Lex, Your math is correct, it just doesn't work with a T because of a simple engineering decision made in 1908. Since the 1880's, that 1and 1/2 to 1 ratio for engagement was the accepted rule for steel in cast iron. The Model T boys apparently DID follow the rule - for a 3/8-24 design! The 1st 500 o...

Thanks Bob,

Merry Christmas to you too...

Just being a bit cute...but...it IS an actual Ford Model T item (reproduced) Part number T-1923 This actually completes the tool project for me (Nah...this stuff is never done :)) Most are probably not aware, Ford actually shipped a 'toolbox' with every car. Somewhere in the past there is a VF artic...

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