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bud delong

Long ago when i found one in my grand dads barn i asked what it was used for? As told 60 years ago it was to get the timer up and out of all the mud,water,dirt,and snow of the roads of the time.

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I wonder if the staged photo was either a adv for tires,tire chains,Ford,or better roads.The well dressed driver looks more like a salesman ? Uncle Sam"s tires from way back were harder than rocks and now some have a way to adjust air pressure on the go.Speaking of on the go,Rich drink more water. :...

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I think tall tires of any type tend to step over mud,snow,or ruts rather than plow through.Ever drive a two wheel drive tractor in deep snow and see the front wheels slide rather than roll??

Bud.

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Lately the worst of many old age problems is learning of friends you will never see again.Bud.

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One cold winter day when we were cleaning out the grandparents house i got the tractor pulling a model T trailer stuck in deep snow.My dad hitched the team and the snow was so deep i had to dig a spot to crank the F-20! The team stepped into the pull and the tractor did not move.My dad backed the te...

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I hope to see you there ED!! Bud.

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Yes no,and none of the above.The teams were largely kept for old times sake long before the 50"s with the advent of semi modern tractors in the 30"s.Often much like horses the steamers often had to sit while their boilers could make more steam to go on.There were steamers that burned straw for the p...

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That picture shows not the need for any Ford but the number of horses to do that work.Horses eat hay or pasture and if they are worked a lot of grain!The cost of the barns,hay,grain,horses,harness,and man power sold many crawler tractors and while Ford built the Trackson i think it was much too smal...

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Gray Marine??

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Trial and error pushed by hand then a rope with hooks on it.So is there a exact date carved in stone?? Do the fore mentioned ideas count or is it a actual conveyor chain? Bud.

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Now that"s funny!!! Bud.

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As one can see what is going down the engine line even then i wonder what the odds were if 15,000 000 had been no starter or generator?? Thank"s Rob! Bud.

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One seat or two? Very nice! Bud.

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Always a few but the hardest thing to find is a good parking place!

Bud

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If oil burning is not a problem i think it is a higher compression ratio that makes the need for colder plugs?? Bud.

PS,There is a man in Indiana that sells spark plugs and has a cheap list that will show the many variations of Champ X. I can't find the list or remember his name?? Bud.

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I thought they looked cool so many years ago i bought a set.They must be here somewhere. Bud.

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Using the org Ford grease cups/hubcaps you can easily force the water from your front wheel bearings!

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Sir my question about your ignition was if you had org coils or a after market single coil unit? Bud from the land of round door knobs.

bud delong

What sort of ignition do you have? Bud.

bud delong

With the power outages over and over proves if you don"t learn from history your doomed to repeat it!!

Bud.

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The org question was [how were model T bodies painted?] I think a better question to have asked would relate to what year,body mfg,body type,and where built.We are not all the same and neither were Model T"s

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My question is what year did Ford start building their own bodies??????????????????????????????

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Yes i heard you got about twice what we did.Yesterday at the table of knowledge i was told a few were still trying to dig sugar beets in the mess!! I would have liked to escape between Christmas and the new year but i might have a problem now.

Bud

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Snow being either good or bad depends on the amount received and when. If the crops are still in the field a little can go along way.When you only get a little and you wonder why the combines are not running,it is because when a slight amount of snow hits the fan it will melt causing ice to freeze o...

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Funny when all the experts say for one reason or another the electric will not work most are thinking cross country.I think i have yet to see note of the small towns and suburbs where many simply use a golf cart.I do not see any in the winter but in late spring through early fall they are all over t...

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When we bought our first model T i was really disapointed it did not make the same sweet sound the model A engine makes! While i like the open soft ride of the 14 that self commencer on the A is nice for some of us old people.That looked to be a very nice A so even if i wanted another T i would stil...

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Last night i got to thinking about the long lost can do crest that were on my uniform. I asked the wife to search and try to find one to wear on my vet hat and low and behold she found one.I looked at my dress greens in the closed and low and behold the crest were intact! I did not try to put my uni...

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Well on the bright side the lawn will not need mowed for a while,there are no fly's or bugs,and i doubt if i will see any snakes! Another nice thing about snow is it will not burn!All we can do is not gripe and make the best of it and it"s way too early to get cabin fever!! Good luck to those who hu...

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We have about 5" and there are still people trying to pull sugar beets!! Lots of corn and soybeans still in the field and the ground was very wet before this mess.It should make for a good start of deer season 11/15 Bud.

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Everyone in this country has a 6 year obligation if needed to serve. What better way to say thank you than to say yes i will!! Bud.

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I just drained our 14 and the model A is next. When in use i use distilled water with a qt of antifreeze to hopefully stop any rust.It has been years since i ran both cars year round.

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Lots of model T parts but it makes me wonder how it handled? The new ones also make me wonder how they handle? The nature of the build of the first picture reminds me of E J Potter and some of the Allison powered tractors he built.

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Has anyone noticed this off topic has grown into a spot for some to preach post after post?? Advancing age brings many bad things with it and being in great shape will not help if your hit by a truck while standing in the middle of the road expounding others faults!!! :D Bud the boomer who paid his ...

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Good on you Dick,and thank you for your service!!!!!!

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Dallas,As a matter of fact we just unloaded our second ton this morning.Yup without a good power stand by it could get very cold quick!! I hope your well and warm this winter! Bud.

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Well that is what this part of the forum is about off topic.We have had and will have loss of power so many years ago we bought a 7,000 surge 6500 cont generator that will handle the house/farm and a 3,000 Honda for when we travel.I really love the little Honda!!!!!

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A simple tire change could speed you up and much cheaper than many other fixes.Bud.

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Many years ago agent orange was applied correctly to kill everything growing that could be used for cover by the V C. Now years later we find it is killing many people who came in contact with it. Like some have posted clearing brush and dead material would help.If only to me when you have to kill p...

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I wonder about the effect's of all those loads of fire retardant dropped ?? A light snow here today.

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I think it's just a means of paying it forward.When your young and you think your bullet proof your young mind might not be fully developed yet.If social security is that wrong when you get old enough just don't take it,problem solved!! It was already built for me and all i ever did was pay it forwa...

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I think what Jim Sims wrote might clear up a lot of questions.

Bud

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The water stored power has been in use in Ludington Mich with the power company pumping water from Lake Michigan.Many feet above there is a huge storage of water which is flowed back to turn turbines and put power back into the grid during high demand.This has been in use many years.Out west in the ...

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As someone stated above the rural country was not ready for a non self sufficent auto in 1919. Ford sold millions of Model T's after the advent of what some would call modern ignition and self starters.Some early autos had built in air compressors and air starters but they faded fast with better roa...

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Money from wind power pays my property taxes ,and money is something most of us can understand! On the other hand there are those who will say the wind will never pay,it will make you act goofy,the terrible noise,and the piles of dead birds around each tower!!There are those who will never see the l...

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So after 4 years of the model A with a oil pump Ford did not start with them in the V-8?? Bud.

Many engines had combination of splash and pumps into the 50's.

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The book Tin Lizzie by Stern will tell you who was involved in trying to put the car into production that Henry wrecked with his bare hands and feet in 1911 or 1912.It will also tell of cancelling orders for bodies and other large parts.I cant recall ever reading anything about Edsel being involved....

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I think most of the true story is for us to see at the Benson Ford and the actual facts will come to light!

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I do not think Edsel had anything to do with the replacement for the model T in 1911 or 1912.

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It might have been bought by Dow at one time,but it did not become Dow Chemical as today.Bud.

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They eat our corn and beans and are often seen at night eating apples in the backyard.I have gotten too old too hunt but one a year should be plenty.Is your driving skill up to par??

Bud

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Is gas and oil soaked foam that close to the exhaust manifold a good thing? Bud.

I think the Jelf mod looks better but i would not use one.

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I have seen a few doodle bugs with TT rear ends and Daytons with clips welded in to bolt to.If only to me it seems a waste to cut up double A rims when cheap Daytons will work.

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We got to meet him once and drove him around the OCF in our 14.Bud.

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Long ago when i was a kid in the fall we would wash out our old vinegar barrel and load it in the back of our pick up.There was a old small apple orchard on our 90 acre farm and we would fill the truck box with apples off the ground or trees.At the cider mill the apples were washed,sliced,and presse...

bud delong

I think the only good thing about the ford screw jack is it will never leak oil.

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Same here as i have never seen it before but it is one of the best from back in the day!!!!! Thank you!

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Keith,The idea has been planted ! Bud.

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Rich,I can try that easy by simply putting it in my primer cup spark plugs!

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Dallas,I think your on to something! Bud.

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Our 14 has only been out 3 times this year because of i can't seem to crank it.It seems as if it binds up and is very hard to crank.I leave it stored with the lever forward and use 5-30 oil. People have often asked me why not just put a starter on but i would rather not use it than pimp up a nice su...

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I like that idea Harold,and i think i will get one!! Thank you! Bud.

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Yup,Under the front seat but the battery was stone dead.The man who towed us first offered a 12 volt to 6 volt jump but i did not like the idea of that.Bud.

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Warm,sunny,and the fall color was perfect so we drove the model A 15 miles to church.When we went to start to leave i found the battery stone dead and the light switch on! I do not know if i bumbled it or if we had help? Needless to say after a short tow by a car we were on our way with no problems....

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The way [that] buzz rig is built you can control it easily with the throttle because you will not cut anything large on [that] buzz rig.I would hit the blade with a small hammer to see if it rings like a bell. If it rings look it over real good and make sure it is sharp. No ring or a dull thud,it is...

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Thanks to Steve for all the fine pictures!! I think the early Little was the car that was used to carry the Chevrolet name before Chevy had a car?? Bud.

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We visited the oldest grandson [Model T Driver] at Tech two weeks ago and i seem to never get tired of the Quincy Mine Tour.We also toured the mineral museum and i had no idea there were that many mineral's! The cardboard boat race's were a hoot with a few sinking.Just a short rest,and now back to m...

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Missing for too long! Bud.

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Enjoy,i think not.A real student of how it was has spoken after many thousands of hours of research and then one come's along and ties to paint it about 2" thick??

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The fresh grease installed with the hubcap/grease cup will force any water or dirt out of the hub.

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On the front remove the grease cup,[often called a hub cap] and add grease and re install.Do not fill but save room for the outage the spindle nut will cause.On the rear remove and fill the grease cups and fill with grease. The rears can be filled with no outage.Model T's are not all the same! :D Bud.

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I think the question should be is needed or was needed.With the dirt,sand,mud roads of the times many thousands thought so.When the Model T replaced the horse it was to work instead of play.Now most experts who have flat tube cores and seldom run in the dirt,sand,or mud state they do not need one.Ye...

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I think if one were to look at a copy of the Ford Industries they would see how Large Ford was and brass tag Tool Checks are still easily found on E-Bay. Auto maker's still stamp tools such as make and dept.

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Ed,Ford had their own railroad with the DT&I so i think they also had railroad shops with tools.What i would like to find someday is one of the 300 992B Hamilton railroad watches Ford bought for the DT&I. Bud.

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I think it is a well made beam clamp made for a industrial use? These may have been used on a moving conveyor to hold parts or containers of parts of more than one size and shape? Bud.

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Is there a gear reduction in that type of mag that lets the mag spin twice as fast as the points and roter?

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Rob,What are the two mounting studs for just below the lifter cover? In the past i have seen T engines modified for a plunger oil pump that ran off the camshaft.Bud

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It would really to see and hear it running at the OCF someday!!!! I have very fond thoughts of seeing Old 16 as it roared through the Village!! Bud.

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My guess would be 5# psi permantly set which might be too much? Bud.

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I really like the story about the man waiting 62 years to get that model A!! Not because he waited so long,but because he wanted one and evidently was not born into the old car ownership or given one!! He wanted one!!!

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We have both and the self commencer is nice!! Bud.

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I used a B tank standing upright hidden by the cow hide on the robe rail.I used a normal Regulator and also a welding head for a valve,also hidden.Now days with the high cost of everything except corn and soybeans i just stay home!

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Just a dumb question but is there a check valve anywhere in the Presto lite system? Bud.

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You and yours look good Dallas!!! Mr Cook did a great service with the video,and i have to ask is Jeff related to Jim Cook? Bud.

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Thank you Rob! One thing about the later Ford racers is at a distance they looked like just a model T like so many thousands of them on the road.Bud.

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Yes i like the spot on the threads where if it is long you go to the second page! Thank you

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Phil was quick to respond with help and knowledge!! Bud.

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Great stuff Rob!! Have you listened to the voice tapes?? For all you do i say Thank You!! Bud.

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Yup!!!! Bud.

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Thanks Rob!!! Did you happen to make Millers Bar for a cheesburger?? Bud.

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I watched the video twice and i saw Ed and Dean Yoder but there is not much comment from so many? I saw Dallas and his special TT but alas no Rob and the K Whisper? I wonder what Stan Howe thought of the OCF?? Bud.

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Thank you!!!! Bud.

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Steve,When you find the red 09 ask for a look at the engine!!!![Good People]!! Bud.

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You can have the best grease or soft oil known to man,but if dust,dirt,and water go past the felt seal trouble will follow it in.Bud.

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Rob,I think those days are gone but ? Bud.

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Rob,Will the racer also be there? Bud.

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Dallas,When i was working the HD-21 and the Insley 1500-B i would often drive the 14 to look over the job and the route to get to the job.Have a great time at the OCF!! Bud.

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Thank you for your story and pictures!!! Bud.

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What is good for your semi modern car is great but it also has modern hub seals instead of felts. Most would never drive a expensive modern auto on gravel while the old T is expected to and [ford] rivers and creeks at the same time.Grease is cheap while bearings are not! Bud.

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Yes please! Bud.

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I hope you give this thing a long look before you start it! The chain for a front motor mount might not be very good? The way the saw arbor is centered on the engine is also not very good as you will have to angle your wood to get away from the engine and you do not wan't to pinch the saw. In my hop...

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