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Mike, I think the engine number is listed on the owners post at the bottom.

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Bob, are you running on Mag? Check AC volt mag output, check the mag post for debris stuck to it?

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Where is your 13 motor located?

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Larry, your question is about the 25 open cars so I don't know if this helps. Maybe it provides some timing context. From CD version of the Encyclopedia page 759-April 29, 1925 Ford Factory Letter: "A combined priming and carburetor adjusting rod is now standard on all Ford closed cars, and is being...

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Jeff, post a pic of the crack.

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Ron Patterson posted an excellent article on the Ignition Coil Box Wood Replacement Kit on January 21, 2010 on this forum. Google MTFCA and the title to the article, should get you there. Welcome to the Model T hobby, you're gonna have fun!

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I've always noted in Toms' pictures that the family pictures are taken with everyone piled into the automobile. It was an exciting time to have a new car and transportation was opening up a whole new world for many folks. My Dad grew up in the 1920-30s and I can still remember all of us having to st...

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Left over wood parts for a 1924-25 Touring from a Fordwood re-wood kit. Part # 193-Door wood driver rear, 3pcs. bottom of door piece not included. #355 Pillar #4 driver side. #314 Pillar #2 passenger side. #167 panel brace driver side. #303&304 cowl rails. #325 floor riser, tack strip front. $100+$2...

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And, congratulations on your first Model T. You are gonna have fun!

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Garrett, look at the 12th picture. Pretty sure the casting date is 2-20-14.

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Great post Austin. These kinds of info posts really help the hobby. Thanks!

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I agree with Jerry. Henry Ford was a talented farm kid and an excellent businessman. He developed the concepts and oversaw the details but he wasn't an engineer. One of his key engineers that joined Ford in 1905 was Jozsef Galamb and he worked in the backroom at the Piquette Plant with other enginee...

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Thanks Jim.

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Jim, could you post or email me some more pics of the engine compartment, radiator, front end/fenders area. Thanks in advance.

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I have a Pace-Stealth model 8.5x20 with the deep V nose and the optional extended front frame that I bought about 5 years ago. Pretty happy with it. Did a quick look on the internet, there are 3 Pace dealers listed in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

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There is a 1907 Ford Model R Runabout on BaT. I have no connection to the car, just an fyi.

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The bottom speedometer looks like a Stewart Model 102 from 1916. I can't make out the date code below the speed drum to confirm the date. See Russ Furstnows' Speedometer book page 53.

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I think those are E&J 466. Maybe include a side and rear picture of the lamps?

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Corey Walker rebuilt a Kingston 4 ball for me. Did a very nice job.

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Looks like both sides have had previous repairs. The driver side fake door panel looks to be replaced all the way to the top edge. The passenger side "rocker" panel area as well. Both sides have unfinished seams probably because of the difficulty of welding the seam in those areas due to the sheet m...

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Joshua, I have a copy of this article by RV Anderson about re-wooding the 23 low cowl roadster. Pretty detailed instructions. If you can't find it online and want a copy email me. Like most of my document collection this is pre-digital.

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I sent an email to you Bruce.

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I sent an email to you Bruce.

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Hey Karl, Steve found you some 13 running board brackets. Read his post.

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And another one if needed.

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Great post Corey, thank you. This is how we continue to grow the knowledge about our cars. Now I'm headed to the shop to look at the latches on my 14.

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In the cd version of the Encyclopedia page 601 re. stake pockets-"later versions moved the front ones back, perhaps to clear the top when it was down." Did a quick skim in the 26-7 documentation section and couldn't find a specific date there either regarding the move of the stake pockets. Perhaps o...

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Bottom picture. Steering column support bracket started in 24. Windshield wiper and rear view mirror available starting in September 24. I'm leaning to its a 25.

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if you can find a copy of Model T Times #389 Jan-Feb 2014 there is a great article about the restoration by Mark Cameron of Owatonna, MN of a1909 Model T # 9043 for the Collier Collection. I don't know Mark and have no idea if this would be of interest to him but I have always been impressed with th...

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I wish I hadn't read this post this morning. Depressing. How are we going to continue to keep the Model T hobby active and continue to attract younger generations to be the next stewards of our cars if we don't share them with the world? I belong to a Shelby Mustang national registry and it has been...

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From the Gail Rodda book, Vol 1 page 20.-"In 1922 the Ford F was introduced and was used until about December. It was made by Ford under Holley patent. Part # was also 6200 B."

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Snyders sells an inner accessory bearing for the rear axle that looks like what you have on the outer part of your axle. Not sure if this is going to help you or if this is a match but go online to the Snyders site, the inner bearing is numbered T-2508-AI. There is a downloadable pdf instruction she...

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For you guys trying to contact the seller this car is also listed on the HCCA site with a phone number listed.

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More great pictures! As Dan said in his post, thank you. The driver in picture #3 reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt. We have a national park in my State named after him.

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Hi John, I emailed you about your 14.

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This last weekend our County historical society held a car show at their museum site. I had the opportunity to display my 14 Touring at the restored service station on the site. The service station was restored by our local AACA club and we hold our monthly meetings there. The car show was lots of f...

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From a Ruckstell pamphlet.

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Martin, thank you for your post and the heads up regarding this transport broker. Even though a couple of the posts here are more of that this is what I do right and you are doing wrong kind of posts, I'm sure most of the club members appreciate the info. This was touched on briefly but I would emph...

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I am doing the upholstery and top on my 25 Touring restoration and found an alternative for top bow repairs in "One Who Collects" youtubes. He glues together 4-5 1x4 pine boards and cuts the bow corner wood sections on a band saw sized to fit into the bows. Those sections are covered up by bow cover...

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My two cents. The 1913 car was less than two years removed from the 1911 models that had a limited offering of a green color. The Encyclopedia Car Description section for 1911 describes this green color. I think it is likely during this era that buyers of the 1913 found green attractive and asked th...

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You don't mention the year of car you have; this is a spare mount that attaches to the windshield stanchion bolts on a 24-5. It has the remnants of a decal on the top and a part number on the underside. Not trying to sell it, just wanted to share a later style of spare mount for your search. Tiremou...

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Paul, you probably know all of this stuff but this is the coil box wiring diagram I used on a Fun Projects rebuild. Found it useful for the continuity checks. Ignore my notes on the diagram that how I work when I do this stuff.

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I use the Ohm meter on my multimeter for continuity checks. Continuity is no resistance to the flow of electricity. While you have your coil box and switch apart it would be a good time to rewire everything and then check the continuity of all of your connections. Then you know things are ready to go.

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Tom, do you have a spare carb you could install and see if that makes any difference?

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Recently bought a nice set of Dill nickel-plated stem covers from Layden. The other neat thing about these Dill covers is once you have them threaded onto your tube stem and in position you tighten them down and they will lock into that position. They look great on one of my nickel era cars.

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David, I am assuming this car is in California? In addition to Bryans' good advice I would add that some pics of the rear end and taillight are also very helpful to your prospective buyers. Thanks for posting this T here. I really like these original 13-14 transition cars.

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Good comments posted here about needing a magneto for low end power and checking the advance/retard on the timer. Sounds like your engine is in good order; I would go back to the basics and pull the carb and clean it up and re-check the float level or put another one on and see what that does. In so...

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What kind of ignition/timer set up are you using?

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Frank, did a quick check in the Encyclopedia documentation section, this might relate to the timing of a USA differential gear change: Jan 24, 1920 Acc. 575, Box 12- "Ten tooth pinion to be used with T-12B ring gear. T-12 48-tooth ring gear obsoleted. Old T-16, 12 tooth pinion, obsoleted."

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This is a July 25 Touring I am restoring. The nickel rad shell has rectangular holes and the sides are clearly slanted. From my read in the Encyclopedia the nickel rad shell and headlight rims became available as dealer accessories in April, 1925 and were subsequently available as options on some 26...

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From the Encyclopedia; In a letter from the Chicago plant September 17, 1924 announcing that Ford is now offering accessory windshield wiper, rear vision mirror and dash light through its dealers. IMHO your rear view mirror, although its cool, is an aftermarket accessory or an owner addition to the ...

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Jerry pics,

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Jerry, Should have some pics to you shortly.

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I have a Ford plate and a Holley plate vaporizers in my shop. Both pretty good. You can have either one or both if they work for you. I wont be using them. Trying to load some pics.

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I understand Mr. Rosenthals' frustration. Why would you put down $30K on a non-titled car only to find out later that when the seller bought it 15 years ago from BillyBob he never got around to doing a title transfer. Guess what? The car still belongs to BillyBob and in my State you have to go back ...

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I just received a 25 Touring upholstery and top kit from Classtique and ordered the top in Turf. Classtique has it.

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Jonathan, a couple of questions about your Model A. Is the engine original to the car? Could you share a partial vin? Does the body have a date stamp on the drivers side front cowl (gas tank)? Thank you.

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James, take a look at Royce Petersons' article "The Kingston Carburetor in the Model T Ford", Model T Ford Fix January 20, 2019. Paraphrasing, the Model Y patent applications were not accepted until years later. Apparently, a method used by patent lawyers at the time to keep the competition from usi...

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Maybe a business decision at the time cause Ford to balk because the Federal govt planned to place additional taxes on the completed Pickup built at the factory. Thus, the practice of pickups being put together at the dealer.

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Thanks John. If I find a bunch I will share them.

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I am looking for two (2) of the older style drain valves pictured on the 4-ball at the bottom of the picture. Email through this site preferred. Thanks in advance.

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To the top for another look. Thanks.

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If I am reading your post correctly the metal seals you have sealed around the axle shaft but not around the outer diameter where it meets the steel rivet ring. As the axle wore and moved off center the rubber lip also started to leak. The seals pictured in your post were an improvement designed to ...

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Thanks Greg!

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I restored a July 1, 1925 Touring over the last few years and did a fair amount of research on 1925 cars to try to keep my car original. I never came across a specific start date for the 1925 single rear window but did read about many changes that happened during that April into July 1925 time frame...

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Want to buy a decent nickel plated radiator shell for a late 1925-27. Prefer email through this club site. Thanks in advance.

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WTB aluminum/steel colored window channels for a late 25 Touring windshield. The vendors carry only the brass channel. Looking for channels in very good condition. I have dimensions if needed. Thanks.

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I'm going to give it a little more value than my colleagues. The market for 26-7 Model Ts has been a little better than the earlier years lately. IMO a range of $11K-$13K for a well running very good condition 26-7 makes sense. Check the engine and frame numbers to see if they match, thats a bonus o...

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Rob, another upholstery resource for you to check out-"One Who Collects" on youtube. He does the interior and top on a 25 runabout. Interesting tip he provides is attaching fabric with hogrings into the open top area of the backrest spring to create that table spot to support the padding during inst...

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Maybe I missed it in all of the other posts about the body; See what engine is in the car and if it is stuck. If it hasn't been started in 10 years and there are issues with the engine that will certainly affect value. More info on the engine serial number may also help you clarify the year of the c...

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Take a look at "One Who Collects" on youtube. Not the same era as your car but he makes the interior and top for a 25 Runabout and installs them. Might give you some ideas on what it takes to make your top. I found it useful for handling an upholstery kit for one of my cars.

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On body reassembly; just wrapping up a restoration on a 25 Touring and found it helpful to go the Reassembly chapter in the Ford Service Manual and put together my own punch list for the process.

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Quick check for a 26-7 frame; the running board brackets each have 3 holes.

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Robert, this may be more detail than you want for your project; attached is a picture copy of a section of Trent Boggess' article on Model T painting. In the 3rd paragraph he references brush painting nuts and bolts black during assembly.

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Scott, sent you an email.

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Sorry, more like 25 entries below yours. Rodger Erickson has it listed.

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There is restorable E&J model 32 with a font about 10 entries below yours on this page.

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From some of my research on this; I can't help you with information about the specific placement of the body tag but in my opinion the body number on the patent plate was assigned by Ford before the car left the factory and not by the dealer as you were told. I have looked at Ford factory inspector ...

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This might work for you. SW Mod 160 the outer rim on the speedo is 3 1/2", the diameter of the bracket hole is 3 1/4". You will have to slightly modify the hole in your dash. The MTFCA Speedometer book has cutting templates in the back of the book for the SW 160. Speedo, bracket and USPS shipping $4...

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Hemmings has a 1911 Touring for sale listed at $25K. Original open valve engine, body and interior look nicely refinished. Its difficult to tell from the pics but it may have a newer rear end in it. HCCA has a nice 11(red....) listed at $50K. I have been tracking 11s for a while and I keep seeing 11...

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Dave,
I would like to buy your Corcoran headlight. I sent an email through the club site. Thanks.

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Working from memory; 13 turtle deck had sharp corners on the back edges. This looks like a later turtle deck. Cars been pieced together.

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Chris, one more idea; I tighten up the rear fender eye bolt after getting the front of the rear fender meshed with the apron and running boards. That eye bolt setup allows for some minor rotation of the rear fender. In my installation, I then tightened the apron bracket nuts and then the fender to r...

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Chris, another pic showing final alignment. The brackets on my rear fenders were part of the original construction of the car. This is a late July 25 Touring.

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The front and rear fenders are original, the splash aprons and running boards are reproductions. The brackets on the rear fenders are pictured in the Ford Service Manual, figure #5 on page 1.

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Had to smile when I opened your post this morning; just spent the last 3 days rolling around under my 25 touring installing panels. In addition to the good advice you have received I would add my process started with installing the front fenders first, then the aprons and running boards and the rear...

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Rodger,
I would like to buy your lights. Email sent through the club site.

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I want to thank our Model T vendors and their supplier of body panels. I was closing in on finishing this 25 Touring and pulled the body, again, to install two new reproduction splash aprons after hammering, dollying and shrinking wavy spots in the originals for days to no avail. I tried to keep eve...

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Larry, I would like to have one of the box labels. I will email you my contact info through this site. Thanks.

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I don't know if this is a match; Ford Service Bulletins, hardback copy, page 162. Use two of these to remove a cylinder head from a hot motor. Your tool looks a little fancier than the one in the Bulletin. Hope you find them.

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For you Model T racing guys there is a great article in the February 2024 Hemmings Classic Car about Charles Montier and his Model T in the 1923 Lemans. Lots of excellent pictures also.

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Allan, I took a closer look at the wheels I am working on. I found markings on one of the rear wheels. While all four of them are the same, only the one rear was marked. I think its a Firestone marking. Paraphrasing from the CD version of the Encyclopedia, Wheel section, page 2 ...when Ford began ma...

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Sorry for continuing this post but I am confused by the postings. I am restoring a set of Hayes rims and wheels for a 25 and I believe Mr. Osterman has a correct wheel to fit in a Hayes rim. The notches in the wheel are there to accomodate the lug on the rim. There is an excellent article about Demo...

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Mark, one more piece of information regarding your question. In the Encyclopedia is an extensive essay by Trent Boggess (page 579) on finishes applied to Model T bodies and parts. He indicates that the gas tank supports 2914-B and 2915-B are finished in Black Elastic Japan paint. I have relied on th...

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Well said Bob. Beautiful and very original 14 Model T. Thanks for sharing it with us on this site.

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Larry, dont know if this helps, couple years ago I bought a set of original looking carriage bolts from Langs for a 25 Touring restoration. They are for running boards and are 5/16 x 1 3/4. Maybe Langs can set you up with some longer ones for your pick up bed.

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Ed, I would like to buy your coil box. Email sent. Thanks.

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Sent you an email about the 13 chassis.
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The round thing looks like a wheel bearing.

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Dale, another possible option is to contact tech schools in your area that have auto body classes going on. Those young guys would get a kick out of working on your car. I have been doing my own body work for around 30 years, feel free to email me some pictures of your project for advice or a second...

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