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Good advice so far but I have used PPG for years and have paint jobs over 35 years old that I base my own needs on. I like my paint to hold up 20 years or more but on cars kept inside most of time it is hard tell what may or may not hold up in the real world. I have done single stage urethane and ba...

Darren, I don't have a spare key but when I get home will try to check my original key to see if the one you posted looks the same. I plan to do the same as you with the box in my 13 Touring and rebuild the coils along with a couple of spares in case I am out with the car and have a problem because ...

The graffiti we see on the old cars today is easy to remove as was on my 1968 Mustang both times I did it to my own car. The first time was when I graduated from high school and the second time was when I got married. I still have the car with no ill effects but the wife not so much. I will say I di...

The first one that comes to mind for me is the 1914 Touring owned by Seamus Hnat but I only have older pictures from before the artwork started so I stole this shot from one of Steve Jelf's posts and give Steve credit for it and the many others he shares with us. Every time I see Seamus he has somet...

I can picture you sitting on the milk crate making motor sounds while you pretend to drive! Looking real good so far from here.

Since it looks like cold weather has slowed the progress on most of our T's I guess I will start it this month. I decided to double check my 09 coolant and since it was a little low and could not check it I decided to start the car and add some more and let it warm up so it would mix well before che...

I bet that door stop shows up in a lot of T shops after this! Already thinking of a way to modify it for mine.

I think what Wayne saw as a prop nut is a model T engine valve over the coat rack. I also see something next to the light over the sink but it is small and will not show detail on my computer so no idea what it is. Other thing farther out from the light looks like a door knob. Strange place for it i...

As you can see the last owner tried to put on a later radiator and the headlights were updated to electric at some point and almost all the brass had been removed other than the windshield so even that may not be original. SANY1450.JPG Last picture is after I put on some brass I had on the shelf for...

Mike, Here are some pictures posted over the years I have saved of 12's. You may have seen or saved these before but just in case maybe this will help. 1912 touring new.gif E142E78D-F946-478D-BF2A-6C3AE04C8D79.jpg pair of 12's.jpg Next I will show my 12 but keep in mind this car is over 107 years ol...

Spark Plug

So Don is looking for the boxes that the spark plugs would have been in when new, is this right? A picture of what it looks like would help a lot. Someone could have this and not know what it is.

One more shot and some pictures I saved from other posts of original 12's.

This last one is the 11 style body but shows some detail.

Scotts car is awesome and pictures do not show how nice it is in person. Every stripe on his car looks like what is posted in old pictures from back in the day to me. We all know that more than one person did the stripes so they would vary by car and who ever did the work that day so who can say wha...

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Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:09 am
Wow! 20° of twist? You've got to wonder how that happened...

When superman came to earth he found a model T in the barn to drive to town but someone locked the steering to prevent theft.

Or, people were just a lot stronger back then from the hard work they did every day.

That would be before the T so the car might be a model S.

My 13 wont help as it has had some damage where it looks like someone pried the tank up and out through the seat platform to replace it or something. I do think Scott is correct about it should be a round tank but don't take my word on this one, let the experts confirm this.

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Here is a link to the thread.

Anyone else get phone messages from someone in Chinese? I have had 3 so far, had to play it back several times to believe it the first time.

Mark, It does not twist in any direction. When I removed the rear cover I could see that the pins are pushed into the edge of the casting and someone before me has tried to either drive one of pins in to remove it or force it in some way and blew out the side of the casting in one spot so I can see ...

Anyone here know how to remove the ring around the face of this model 11 Stewart speedometer? I need to install new glass and the ring is held on by 3 little brass pins but I don't see a way to remove them. I took off the brass cover from the back but the whole unit is inside a heavy casting like co...

I like to have a YOM plate on the front of all my old cars and trucks so have bought a few from different places over the years. My 1916 Indiana Truck has no place to display a front plate but when a real nice 1916 Indiana plate showed up on ebay with original paint I bought it. After the plate got ...

So I am going to ask the question again. What year and kind of antique car do you have and how about a photo? Its been a while since some of these were posted so here are some of ours and a couple we had but sold to make more room. 646050.jpg 13 Touring SANY1541.1.jpg 12 Touring SANY1717.JPG 09 Tou...

Looks like a good start to a great car to me. Doesn't look like a neglected T from here! Even the seats look good. You plan to keep it and have fun? Lots of T's around this area and places to enjoy them and people willing to help and parts are easy to find for a 25.

Good to know you got it going! Now you have all winter to work out the bugs and get it ready for tour season. When do we get to see a picture of the rest of the car?

Watching the video again I do see where the high gear is sticking but it does move slowly so I feel it will free up with a little more heat and run time. I would apply the brake gently to not kill the engine but firm enough to bog it down some and then let off and repeat a few times. Idle it for a w...

Hi Wally, I just saw your video and it looks good so far but it looked like the low pedal might be a little tight, (hard to tell from video) How much travel do you have with the pedal when you push it down before it stops? Also 30 wt oil this time of year might not be the best choice. I have used 10...

But if you replace the wine in the bottle is it still the same wine?

Does anyone else look at a pile of rusty junk and see what looks like a 100% restored car in the back of your mind? To me that part looks mint but to others it looks rusty and bent. Is this a sign of advanced stages or could it be another form of the same disease? Can this explain how I ended up wit...

I am near Winamac right now but in Logansport most of the time. Willing to help if you want it. I am not an expert but have got a lot of T's going for people in my area and the price is right.....no charge. Might be able to get you going over the phone but in person would be better. Dallas is closer...

I don't know how cold it was but it was a blizzard. We did a modified engine rebuild on my 1923 American LaFrance Brockway Torpedo fire engine the previous summer. My idiot friend, Jerry Van, called me and thought it would be great idea to take it out during the snow storm. I thought he was (and is...

got to be the new coil points tool

Wasn't this the car Gilligan drove around the island? Someone just re-skinned it with center door metal.

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Tom, Congrats on the find of your new car. I knew one would turn up but didn't think it would be in your price range or close to home. I would think you could get it moved for $1.00 to $1.25/ mile in an enclosed trailer to your door or you could go get it and make a fun trip out of it. Please post p...

I walked away with a new old stock 26/27 rear fender for $60 and a real nice hood former for 11-14 for my wifes projects and a set of lined rear brake shoes for my car new never installed. Can't remember if that is all I got as I got a call from the hospice nurse about my Mom while we were at the sa...

Thanks to everyone for the support at a time when it was needed most. We had a small grave side service today with family and friends and even had her little 13 year old dog there to let her know why she wont be seeing her mom anymore. (I have had 3 little sisters since I moved away from home) The d...

Very few here know what the last 6+ years have been like for us and this may explain why I never do much with my cars and just can not ever take a long trip. It started in 2012 with my wifes father falling and needing 24 hour care for the next 4 years till he passed away at age 91. Then after we too...

I used my right hand up till this year and yes it felt wrong at first but now it is normal. I still prime it with the right hand and pull the choke with the left but only with switch turned off. Here is a short video I did when I was first able to go for a short ride back in March. I was still recov...

Logansport is about 40 miles from Lafayette I think. Watch out for crazy drivers/people if you go downtown. I hate to drive through there.

Dan, I will take some better pictures for you and measure from a point on the top that can be found on other cars to locate them. Also I loaned out my side curtains to Mike at Clastique over the summer so he could confirm they are original and make a pattern and start reproducing them for people lik...

I don't know if mine would be of any help but maybe it will. It still has the original top and is not restored. I just don't know where to start to get what you need and am tied up with other things right now that can not wait. I also have the side curtains that came with it. Everything fits togethe...

My first T started with the first old car/truck I ever found in a barn 39 years ago. I was 16 at the time and collected beer cans and at the time thought the best place to find the real old ones was in old barns so the 3 or 4 old barns down the road looked like a good place to me to hunt. When I cli...

Posted before from my 13 touring, engine cast date 12-24-12. Bruce's book put engine assembly as 1-24-13 (from memory) so this head could be the original to my engine. Car last registered in 1928 but heads can be changed so take all this for what its worth. This is a low head and the only one I have...

Bill, My body # 82XX according to Bruce's book puts the build date as Aug.2, 1909 so late in the year. It has the aluminum skin Pontiac body which from memory was used last in September 1909? My engine was replaced at some point with a non starter 1916 engine so still hand crank and no generator. I ...

I have left auction sites after finding out they had a buyers premium and will never return to another of that auctioneers sales for any reason. At least this one gives advance warning so I can decide to either stay away or reduce the amount I am willing to spend. I always have a top bid in mind bef...

Here is a screenshot of the old forum page just in case we loose it.

641953.jpg Jan. 1913 build date. No rib across fender like later styles had but I don't have a picture to post of it. I posted all of my pictures on the old forum here http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/599638/641256.html and should repost them sometime so people can blow them up full size and se...

Looks like he is in my area.

Dwight,

I have a real nice one I was going to use on my 26 but sold the car and no longer need it. $300 takes it and I am not that far from you.

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You can use 2000 grit or finer wet/dry paper and take out all the scratches from what you have done so far and also will remove any left over clear and then it will polish with Mothers or your favorite product. I have done it on brass horn parts and lights but don't use it on places you can not reac...

Felix is alive and well here in Logansport. Felix is also the oldest high school mascot in the state of Indiana, chosen in 1926 after a Logansport High School player brought his plush Felix to a basketball game. When the team came from behind and won that night, Felix became the mascot of all the Lo...

When you drive a car that is 110 years old and don't win oldest car at the show, its a good show! Agreed! Consider trying to email the photos from the phone to your email account...then download to your computer and post...something to think about? Scott, I can't send E-Mail from my phone or I woul...

Last weekend was the local power show that I have gone to over the last 15+ years and try to take something old car related every year. Most times only a few old cars or trucks show up and the rest are tractors and lately lawn mowers. I took the Indiana Truck starting in 2003 as a project that didn'...

So THAT is what progress looks like!!!! I had forgotten since it has been so long.

Bill,
My pictures are 5MB before I had to resize them for the old forum but now I just post the large file and when you click on it you can zoom in and see more detail.

Pictures wont load for me dang it!

Here is what happens when one of those little springs wont hold it closed on a 50 mile drive down bumpy roads.

After seeing Dans picture it made me go out and get a picture of what I have. Other than the newer style shut off and fuel filter it looks the same as Dans picture. Yes mine is brass too.

Today I needed to move the 09 and noticed that the sediment bowl is round and about the size of a large walnut but I didn't see a shut off on it. It is mounted outside the frame and no room to reach between it and the frame so it will need another look on a cooler day and no way for me to know if it...

I followed this from before day 1 to the end and while it would be a long night to watch all the videos at one time it was well worth watching. Some of the roads they had to drive on would make most of us give up and go home and then there were the dirt roads if you can call them that. :?: Now they ...

I keep the best for myself and pass along the "not as good" to my nephews, who are glad to get it because they are just starting out and have nothing. :) When I read this I had to look up at who posted it to see if it was my uncle that passes some of his old stuff to me to keep for another 40 years...

Someone posted this picture on Facebook of us in downtown Logansport headed out of town to go to Walton for the car show. Pretty cool to see yourself through the eyes of others!

I don't want to stir things up at all but the OP did say he saw some damage in the transmission area although it may have been minor damage so I am with him on this pulling things apart to check for the cause. Little things turn into big problems fast. That turned out to be a good call on his part w...

We drove the 09 to the next town today for its first ever car show. Didn't register it so no plastic prize to collect dust but lots of people thanked us for letting them sit in it for pictures and getting to see it crank started, ect. It was a good first drive out of town since the rod was installed...

You don't want those things to open up while driving down the road or worse yet fall out. My top petcock worked open on tour some time after we left Dayton Ohio and just outside of Richmond Indiana and dumped 3 1/2 quarts of oil out of that little top hole in less than 50 miles. We found it after th...

Thanks for all the great info. The pictures Rich posted show two ways and I think the lower left is close to correct. I will contact Russ.

I swore my transmission made the sounds when the thrust washers went out in the rear end and it only made the noise when I was moving or stopping. 80% of the time I find two things went wrong at the same time on my cars and most problems are not related. The nut could have done some damage and made ...

I am up late every night watching all of her video's and can't wait for the next to be loaded. Hope the camera holds up for the trip!

I am getting ready to order the rear straps for the new top on my 09 Touring and all I find listed have a "D" ring to mount to the car but mine should mount to the buggy rail. I thought about just cutting the ring off but then they would be short and not fit. Anyone got any pictures of the way they ...

I love the look of wood and think painting over it is a bad thing for cabinets and antique chairs but the wood on cars from that era would have been painted to protect it and natural wood while it looks good is just wrong. I hated to paint the original white oak cab on my 25 Indiana but it had paint...

Today I drove the 09 Touring for the first time since it toasted a rod near Richmond Indiana on the way back from Dayton Ohio. Pictures of the damage later. Also fixed the bad petcock that let all my oil out before the damage stopped me and ended our fun.

South Bend Indiana had some nasty weather tonight with tornado's and damage. I think it passed just south of Mishawaka and hope everyone is safe. We didn't make it up to meet the Ocean to Ocean drivers since we ended up in Lafayette with my son and family for my wifes birthday. Nothing on the news t...

My cars are all missing this; 13.All Model Ts were built with a permanently affixed jack stand on the rear axle. This would allow the owner to remove the rear wheel and place a flat belt on the hub. The car could then be used to power farm equipment. This was factory standard on all Model Ts, right ...

When I did body work for people and needed a tool I would take the money I made working on the cars and go buy the tool so I would have it for the next job. Now I only work on my own cars and have all the tools I need but if anyone wants to "donate" free tools please give me a call.

Gene,

Try this;
Bill's Auto Works
billsautoworks1@aol.com
(216)832-8697 No Texts

I know he is booked but it never hurts to call and see if he can help. He has went above and beyond for me and others and is VERY dependable.

Mario,

I'm speechless...............

Darel,

I think we met in Richmond a time or two and I never thought about you as 80 something. What ever you are doing it works! Happy Birthday

Thank you Susan for the address. I don't know if we will make it but if we do I will take the camera and post pictures HERE because Facebook is next to impossible to find anything on and toss in old people (myself include here :| ) and the pictures might as well be posted on the great wall of China....

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Where can we meet up with them Sunday when they will be in Mishawaka Indiana and about what time? My wife has a birthday that day and we might be able to drive up to see the group if we know how to find them.

A couple of weeks back I put a brass mirror on the pass side of the 09 to match the one on the drivers side. I had bought the "new" one on ebay and saved some money and wanted it for the tour in Richmond. After I put it on I drove the car a few times and noticed it vibrates a lot but then so does th...

Tim,

Just think how many times your hat can blow off in 4000 miles?

Tonight my wife and I tore into the 09 to see what the damage looks like. As expected the #1 rod was toast but the others were still tight and so far it looks like the crank is good. When the oil got low it caused the babbit to get hot and melt and crumble but the cap held up and only the rod had lo...

This is the first time I am able to get back to post here since we are now at home. We had a great time driving all around Richmond and getting to meet some old friends from the forum and a few new ones. This year we brought the new car which was running real good and made it to Dayton without issue...

We made it here a little late for the Thursday tour so just hung out at the museum and hit the Fire House for lunch then back to the campground after I removed the fan from the 09 that had locked up because someone forgot to check it. :? While I was working on the fan shaft and talking to some campe...

Steve, If you bring a projector I am guessing the lights will be off or dimmed while you talk. Just remember when the lights come back up that some of us like to take a nap in the afternoon and we have all had a log trip so please don't throw anything at me, er, ah, us after the show. :D Hope to see...

Nice pics, Peter and Sally were not around when we saw it so we never got see the inside details of the motorhome part. Thanks for posting these. I looked for Peter where ever we went and asked everyone with that accent if his name was Peter. I bet there were 100+ Australian's here that day!

Automotive masking tape is expensive but works and will come off after you paint without problems. Only thing is it might pull off any loose paint so a trick we used was to "kill" the tape a little on your leg to remove some of the glue. Stick it to your pants leg and remove it one time before you p...

I got to see Peters KampKar in 2008 at Richmond after he and his wife made the trip from the west coast. The route was not a direct line and they hit a lot of places all over the country along the way. I do not know how to search the old forum now but the story was posted back then so maybe someone ...

Rope off the driveway and park in the grass

Steve,

Please note that my 09 may not be 100% correct so if your trailer is for an 09 Touring add a couple inches at least to be safe. Maybe others will let us know how close mine is because I am not an expert on it and have a lot to learn myself.

I wanted to see how tall my 09 touring is a while back and took out the rear floor with the top up held in place with ropes and new wood bows (no top material yet) it was 87" from shop floor to top of wood bow. This is with 30x3 on front and 30x3 1/2 rear but the wood may not be 100% right since I d...

Jim, I have done just what you are doing many times over the last 40 years and even after working in body shops and doing several cars from the ground up, my hat is off to you. That is amazing progress and your story reminds me of the movie 50 first dates. What you have done is not easy for someone ...

Update, I decided to go over and work on the car today and took a spare timer with me. Turned out to be a warn out roller that we missed while looking for the spring under the car that day. It was able to make contact on 2 terminals at the same time so somehow it would fire #4 twice and skip #2. It ...

Good point, owner did tighten things up in the coil box before the trip and could have caused a problem that showed up down the road today. I think it is old wood.

Nice to see someone save another real nice T and do such a good job on it. Glad you saved it so many years ago and had the time to restore it right.

Before we try to guess how this is possible I thought the experts here might give me some idea how it is even possible to drive a 1927 T 35 miles and then suddenly it wont run well enough to climb a hill. When I checked to see if the coils were firing I noticed #2 was dead but when I would crank it ...

Hated to see the day but this car is sold.

One more time. I am thinking of putting this one in the back of the barn for later since my other cars are open tourings and a closed car has roll up windows for when we get stuck in the cold rain. I just don't need another car to restore and if I keep it I know someday it will get restored. Any int...

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