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Also previously posted, for 1913.

NOTE THERE IS NO JACK MENTIONED IN 1912, BUT BEGINNING IN 1913 IT APPEARS. AS JACK AND HANDLE

Thank you!

That’s a very interesting observation. I checked mine and I have an unmarked one as well-out of 5 total.

By the way, what did you paint yours with?

I have been perplexed by the jack question for a long time. The Buckeye company was advertising a jack like the block letter FORD DETROIT ONE as easy as 1908. At that time they were in Louisville Ohio. On January 1st 1910 they relocated to Alliance Ohio. The FORD DETROIT jack exists marked with both...

Thanks for the responses.

This appears to be a Model T key, but doesn't have the center "hub". Examining with a magnifying glass reveals no evidence of a rivet being ground down. Any ideas?

It was me. Restarted my computer, and got on.
Don't know why. Icould get on other sites without problem.

Is it me or is there a problem with Snyder's web site? I can't connect.

Which Ford Times issue??

The link doesn't work for me

I have seen a lot of model T keys, but never noticed one with this little spur at the base. Any idea why?

I can highly recommend Calimer’s!

The above information raises the questions: Is the style Kim posted. and Larry made, the original iteration of the "envelope" style? Or was that 26-27 Model T style similar to the Model A pouch that had snaps? If so, where does this one fit into the scheme of thins?

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For sale is a "1st edition" 2021 reproduction 1909-11 2356 spark plug wrench. I obtained it from the original seller.

Price is 140.00 plus 10.20 to ship priority mail. Or I can bring it to Hershey. I accept personal Pay Pal or cash at Hershey.

Contact me thru the forum.

I have seen this reproduction of the factory drawing of the early 2356 plug wrench. The dates are cut off. Does anyone know what the dates actually are? (Nov 30, ???? and Dec 12, ????)

Sent you an email, save one for me.

I’ll take one.
Will send email re payment etc.

The “No. 03” is marked on the jack. They made the same jack without the FORD on the plate. Also made jack with other names on them. I believe I have a plain one in my garage.

Yup, Number 3, made in Alliance. And a OO.
Both with considerable original finish. Judging Guidelines take note!!!

I met Pete on the Mainiely "T" Tours, and then at Hershey when I was restoring and showing my '13. We communicated about tools, tires, etc. My wife's name is also Mary and and we always talked about "my Mary" and "your Mary". He was a true gentleman. Hershey will never be the same for me without him...

Any Photos?

I will take 4.
Charlie Little
So. Paris Me

This one is a little further along the production line, but still has it's tags on.

I know nothing about speedometers. what is this model and is it T related. Any idea of value?

So, it looks like Ford Manufacturing was around the corner from the original Mack Ave. Plant.

Fascinating!

Where was Ford Manufacturing Company located? I can find nothing Googling it.

I do …………..

MAYBE THE WOKES SHOULD GO BACK TO SLEEP!

The flattened nut driver worked!
Thanks!

NH, sorry.

I would like to replace a Gross Jet with a Viton tip valve in a rebuilt carb I have. I have the new jet, but I can't figure out how to remove the Gross Jet. I can't get a small wrench on it. Is there a secret to removing these?

Also ice pick

There have been several threads in the past regarding trailer tracking gps units. However from what I found there has been no true detailed “reviews” of units, with pros and cons discussed. I am considering getting one for my aluminum bodied enclosed trailer and would like to know what folks experie...

Lang's

Item Number: WS4ORH

No "Made in USA", should be 1912 or earlier.

The December 1911 parts list shows an oil can that has a top like the Maple City can with the double Ford markings pictured above. The 1915 parts book shows a can with a wider top.

Just a thought. Since Marshall-Wells was a hardware distributor, could this top be from an oil can the same style as the Ford one that was made for M-W by Maple and the top married to the Ford can by a previous owner whose original top got damaged?

Yup, MTFCI tour

It's interesting to note that the handle in the photo of the large Ford Detroit jack that belong to Kim Dobbins is marked WS and does not have holes, while the one I have with the holes is also marked WS, and the one without holes is marked W. I haven't found any contemporary liturature that sheds i...

Showing markings:

Two originals, slightly different

A repro, painted gray and an original in rust.

Mailing check today

This from the April 1913: Ford called top boots top hoods:

John Regan has, on several occasions, referenced a letter he found at the Ford Archives which was sent to the dealers in 1912 stating that. I have a thread trying to find a copy of that letter on the forum at this time. Check it out.

Keith Since Ford did not supply either a top boot or a jack as standard equipment until the 1913 model year (October 1912) the owner of the 1911 had to buy his top boot and jack separately. Good jack possibility would have been the Buckeye No. 03, which was advertised in the early Ford Time magazine...

Thanks, that help’s

In a past discussion regarding when Ford started supplying jacks with the cars, John Regan posted the following: "I found a letter in the Ford Museum archives many years ago while researching there. It was before the whole research thing was moved to the Benson Research Center. The letter was on For...

I dealt with Ed years ago. He rebuilt my 1924 touring. Nice guy, great work. A great loss the hobby.
Shouldn't this thread be moved to the main forum?

I just reviewed the forum rules as linked to above.

To quote:Product availability, sales, special offers, purchase negotiations and orders are strictly prohibited on the discussion forum.

How does what was posted and then removed violate any of this?

Highly recommend Bill Calimer’s work. He has done both wood felloe and demountables for me. Excellent!

Congratulations!!!!!!!!!

Pictures would be a big help. Also the vin #/engine number
If you replaced the" battery and wiring" then one would assume it has a starter? So perhaps not the original engine?
Having dealt with estates, you want a fair, definitely NOT inflated, value.

In reading several strings on the various metal valve stems (Schrader, Dill etc.) I noted mention that Larry Smith had submitted articles to both club magazines, but that, at the time, they had not been printed. Were they ever printed? And if so, in which issue of which magazine?

Can't be. It's more than 5 ib!

The are found unmarked, and marked by 3 makers; Hayes, Prudden and Weston Mott.

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The short answer is: Yes, this is what was supplied with the early cars.

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Any progress?

I went through a copy of "Guide to Authentic Tools for Dodge Brothers Vehicles 1914-1938" published by The Dodge Brothers Club that i picked up at Hershey several years ago. Did not find this wrench in there. So, probably not for Dodge!

Larry, Two of this type of wrench have sold on eBay recently. One that had the 6 sided hole sold on May 7 for 147.50. It had been repainted and the seller commented that he could find no signs that it was welded or ground down, starting bid was $100. And this one with the 8 sided hole started at $20...

I don't believe it's for a T. I've heard Dodge and Chevy, but no definite answer.

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I believe the original Ford wrench was 6 sided.
If you look at the Regan sheet, ALL of the T1349 wrench show that hole to be 8 sided. However, the real wrenches all have 6 sided holes. I assumed that the 8 sided hole in the drawings was a "typo"

Ford started to supply jacks in 1913, along with top boots. I have always assumed that these were the ones until about 1916-17 when the common one with integral handle replaced it. The parts check lists that listed what was supplied with the cars for 1913 and 14 list a jack and handle, not with hand...

I have several Ford 00 jacks and they are marked Buckeye, Alliance OH

The one that sold has to be pre 1910.

From: MOTOR Vol 13-14
“Trade Notes”
February 1910
Page 112j
The Buckeye Jack Manufacturing Company, owing to an increase in business, have been forced to seek larger quarters, and on January first removed their plant from Louisville. Ohio, to Alliance, Ohio.

What gauge wire should be used to both ground and run to the coil box battery post if you are using a 6 volt battery? A 12 volt battery?

Before anyone gets concerned about a low blood pressure reading it's always prudent to know a few things. What is the patient's usual reading? Are they having any symptoms, e.g. dizziness, weakness, chest pain, shortness of breath, etc. Is this the same bp machine they usually use: or is it a differ...

Missed you on the Mainely T Tour! But looks like you had a great Mini Tour!
Great video!

Charlie

The bottom wrench is not Ford. I have been told that it is for Chevy. They are easier to find than the Ford one’s and easy to confuse if you think you have made a find and not pay attention to detail!

THANKS for the info!

I understand that instead of a wooden block between the front fender and running board there was two "spacers". Were these essentially thick washers? And how thick were they?

Thanks

BTT,
Anyone know where I can get the old, NOS, thicker, valve spring seats???????

Here is documentation that Ford was suppling jacks in 1913, note it states "and handle" for the jack. ALSO, it shows Spark plug wrench and handle, that refers to the T2178 style plug wrench that was supplied into 1913 (see photo).

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Ford started supplying jacks in 1913, along with a top boot. It was a two piece (jack and separate handle), and is pictured on the right in the photo of the two jacks with the prominent FORD markings (silver colored). The other one in that picture is a Buckeye #3, and was sold by the Buckeye Company...

On researching valve spring seats on the forum I note that there are several doscussions relating to the poor quality of the repro valve spring seats and the comment: "only use NOS"! Okay, where do I get the NOS ones?

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