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What a question. Considering that the "T" has survived for over 100 years, traveled bout every where. Now I would suggest that the best thing to do is take a full trailer of repair parts.

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Some interesting responses. Not what I expected. The fact that the group who operate a car that can be maintained with a screw driver and a pliers, not to mention bailing wire, have forgotten that the horse will provide dung that can be burned for gas and the engine will operate. Who needs gasoline ...

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I have been on an off the MTFCA site over the years. The owner of a 1922 Ford Coupe (over 40 years), as built except for the water pump and period brake light. I set coils by ear and buzz box. Car as built will travel 30 mph on modern roads. I have followed comments and questions over the years. See...

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Well winter is coming and some one may want to review the following article and attempt to determine how many Model T's survived. Probable the best way is to review each year of production beginning in 1908 and go all the way to 1927. Determining the survival rate of each year. Survival rate for the...

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If certain agricultural equipment can be used as an example, with a Thermosiphon system hoods, mud guards are not necessary in the design to keep an engine cool. Take for example the Farmall-International A from the 1940s. No water pump, yet it can run 8 hours and not over heat at 2-5 mph. The mud g...

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Comment...these hickey-do's that you are calling engine splash pans are referred to in the period literature for early automobiles as mud guards, or engine mud guards. Their purpose is to protect generators, magnetos, timers, fans from mud and gravel found on and from the early roads. The flat hour ...

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Well we are getting close to the first quarter of the 21 century. Will The model T survive in to the 22st Century? Born and manufactured in the first quarter of the 20th century, at the same time there were numerous publications on how to repair the Model T. With many learning how to keep the Fliver...

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Early Gasoline was purer, a relative term, than modern gasoline. The early gasoline used in the Model T's, at the time of production, did not contain an antiknock additive or , if you wish lead additive. The early gasoline generally had an octane of 70. Of course, gasoline could be souped-up by addi...

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Motorcycle engine and transmission sharing the same sump? Well ever hear of a Morris Minor - the Mini? Engine and transmission share the same oil. And it works. One minor problem is the metal from the transmission finding its want in the engine oil galleys. Straight weight or multigrade worked fine....

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From 1928. Discussion on the Ford related ambulance in Europe WWI..
The Medical Department of the U.S. Army in the World War. Volume 3. By United States. Surgeon-General's Office · 1928 on line.

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Truth in this ( from Steve Jelf post) "Vehicle registration records would probably tell it more accurately than we can." "It would be great if they did, but most states purge the records after a few years." We recently planned to get a 1970 Ford Mustang back on the road. Over the years off the road ...

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Very small sample of 1940ish newspaper articles of Model T's on the road. Note that in most cases the drivers age indicates they grew up with the Model T.

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Remember this was the Universal Car.
Estimated 40 cars still extant in India.
Recent examples from - Ahmedabad and Delhi and Mumbai

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Was the magneto voltage tested?

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Posting for no reason - wiring for 1915.

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Well, an attempt was tried with Coupes: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/352801.html?1365199929 http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/411944/473713.html?1409277840 http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/599638/624351.html http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/815671.html?1512871019 Out...

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Rob, As the model K was raced, was the car used in the races a "special", or was it one that came directly off the production line. Reason I ask, the post I presented from India indicated that the American cars used in races were not what a customer could purchase. The race cars, such as the Model K...

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A news article from the India circa 1910 about the construction of "specials" that are to be stock and compete in races. It appears that in the early years of the automobile age the stock cars that appear in races were not stock at all but specials with a mess of upgrades. The author points a finger...

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From 1916. One has to remember that the first produced gasoline was a "pure" product, later to be less pure and not suitable for automobile engines. If a heavy fuel such as # 2 fuel oil is introduced in an internal combustion engine it needs to be preheated first. KEROSENE VERSUS GASOLINE IN AUTOMOB...

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At one time as a daily driver I had a MG-1100 with a 1098 cc engine. In the summer the thermostat was removed an a water restrictor was used in place of the thermostat. No cooling issues. Attached current examples of coolant restrictors. With a Thermo system thermostats and restrictors are not neede...

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May be the question of having a water pump on a Model T Ford was answered in the Ford Times May 15, 1909? That date issued in the use of the Gravity or Thermo-syphon system for a Model T Ford. According to the author, writing for Henry, he made the statement that the cooling with a water pump was re...

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The question of having a water pump on a Model T Ford was answered in the Ford Times May 15, 1909. That date issued in the use of the Gravity or Thermo-syphon system. According to the author, writing for Henry, made the statement that the cooling with a water pump was regulated by the speed of the m...

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Suggest some research. Start with this - Model T Ford in speed and sport Paperback, 1974 by Harry Pulfer (Author)

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Maybe this should be a separate topic, but if a water pump takes 3 to 4 horse power to turn. How much in horse power could be gained by removing the magneto/magnets and use a distributor or conventional magneto? From the literature of the period, it was about 1921/1922 the water pump was being offer...

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It was mentioned that this thread should be helpful. It has to be remembered that before the Model T and even after the Model T thermosyphon was used on both European and American cars and farm tractors (Farmal A - check out a 1945 unit). One reason the method of cooling was inexpensive - translated...

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So I will ask the experts. If one does use this mentioned radiator, will it cool the engine sufficiently if a water pump is installed?

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This should be interesting. Here is the question, if this radiator is used in a Model T designed for thermo-syphon cooling will it work and cool a Model T without a water pump? The reason for the question is if it is designed for a modern V-8, an modern hotrod, that used a water pump, how or why wou...

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Check the Third-Brush?

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So if you use a "waterless product" or waterless coolant, isn't that a form of alcohol or permanent antifreeze?

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Another consideration for antifreeze. ISFI 2008 International Symposium on Fire Investigation Science and Technology ANALYSIS OF ETHYLENE GLYCOL-BASED ENGINE COOLANT AS A VEHICLE FIRE FUEL CONCLUSIONS The test data concerning ethylene glycol engine coolants and the associated analysis presented in t...

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Out of curiosity, any one check out the MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET for Redline Water Wetter and review the individual chemicals used in the product?

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So here is a question for the experts. Over time a cooling system will have scale form. If the scale is not in constant circulation, moving through the system, it will build up in the radiator and in constricted places in the motor block. This causes over heating. If the owner does not flush out the...

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"In other words it’s a patch up of other problems." This advice would be true for using a distributor, a ECCT, using an I-Timer. and a list of stuff to make the T better. For me, the radiator is kept clean and open. Flush every two years. No Bar's Leak when there is a leak. And I still use a water p...

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In 1919 the Army Air Corp was concerned about radiophone communications and the ability of the pilot and ground to be in communication because of 1. noise of the engine and 2. the noise of battle. I would guess the answer as to how ignition interference was solved by looking to early aviation. If th...

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Some pictures of a 1914 Singer 29-4 "patcher" sewing machine. A similar machine that may have been used by a Ford supplier to manufacture side curtains, floor mats, and even fan belts. Or reinforce a fan belt.

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Briefly, the machine was in storage for about 20 years, used by the family for harness repair. It is a Singer class 29, an industrial machine, commonly known as a “patcher.” Mostly this type of machine was found in harness and shoe repair shops. I will down load a pic of the actual machine later. Ou...

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Anyone have success repairing their own flat fan belt with a vintage Singer 29-4 treadle sewing machine? Or repairing visors, side curtains, tops floormats.....

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Someone once stated education is repetition, repetition, and again repetition. As there was a recent topic on the forum about radios in model T, the attached was presented in the Forum sometime back but, time to present again. Motor truck magazine for 1921 presented an article about an experimental ...

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Too, by 1923 Ford Motor Company was offering "New Type Model T Bodies," to owners and dealers. Included were all parts to up grade the styling including Sedans, Coupes, Touring, and Roadster, and the radiators stuff. Ford Service Bulletin, Sept 1923.

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Of course, you can paint the chrome radiator shell black.

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A suggestion: google - model t ford owners manual troubleshooting Find: Search Results Web results Ford Model T Service Manual www.cimorelli.com › mtdl › servicemanual PDF development of a successful repair business, in fact it is the only safe ... manual containing instructions on the care and oper...

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Of course if you lived a few miles from a dealer what would you do. No HCCT, no electronic device, no telephone or even internet. Just your owners manual. Maybe a copy of the Ford Owner. Well you buy or make a coil tester and set your coils to draw 2.5 amps.

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To produce a period magneto battery charger consider this. Dykes motor manual mentions a Warner battery charger for the Model T. The Warner system uses a wet RECTIFIER to convert AC from the Magneto to DC to charge the battery. The device would either be mounted on the outside running board, of if y...

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Looking for ideas on advertising and lettering, try a journal such as American Garage and Auto Dealer.

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Foot Note: a. Have a 1947 Farmall A with thermosyphon cooling and oil pump factor that holds 35-40 psi hot.
b. Have a 1950 series 1 Land Rover that has an out board oil pump for motor, made from a power steering pump.

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So is there an oil pump? A reserve oil tank with separate pressure pump? If no pump why an oil gauge? see: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50893/77565.html?1231522080 http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/80257/117697.html?1261431005 http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/708324/762611.html?149832...

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I saw that there was a posting of the E. B. White tale of the Model T, “Farewell, My Lovely!” I wonder how many actually seeing the posting have read the text. Certainly the information is valuable to a new owner, or one wishing to own a Model T. And if read before ownership or even after purchasing...

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There are many books describing the operation of the Model T. But maybe...just maybe, a new owner needs to read White to understand just what Model T ownership is about before purchasing a car...then asking the forum for advice after the purchase.. "There wasn’t much to base exact knowledge on. The ...

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Also see, "The Model T Reconsidered."J. E. Endelman, Ed.2008. pp 10-20.

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Occasionally there is a post of an individual finding an object attached to a magneto magnet when the engine is stopped. Of course, this object has been near the magneto and magnets for some time and only noticed when the engine is stopped and the covers removed to expose the magnets and magneto. Un...

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I really wonder what attracts folks to vintage cars. The ownership is driving a vehicle manufactured long before they may have been born, or they want to relive their youth. Operating a vehicle that require them to think rather than a microchip. If you want a vehicle with air then purchase a car of ...

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I may have missed the memo, but this discussion on going fast mentioned engine and drive train. And brakes. But would wheel, rims, and tyres be important? Certainly the use of wood spokes need to be tight and solid. They are safe up to at least 60mph, and at 30 mph should be no problem. And speeds a...

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Pic #4, with E, may be from EMCO , Eberhard Manufacturing Co. Note item 9512.

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1920 Parson's Hinges - a supplier to Ford and others.

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Ternstedt Automobile Body Hardware..strap hinges, piano hinges, rear deck hinges, ...(1921).

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So the story goes in 1927 15 million Model Ts were produced. and production stopped. There were still Model Ts in service. How many? Well, for 1929 there was a an article stating that 8,000,000 were still running. Any disagreements?

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Livingston County Daily Press and Argus, Howell, Michigan. Armstrong and Barron, Agents were dealers in International Harvester farming equipment.

Announcing the Model T Ford was available for sale a week earlier, March/April 1908.

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Well with a Model T -- tape, wire and string is all you need to keep one running. Last year, my has it been that long, we drove to a show, and a visitor informed me that my fan belt was beginning to separate. I had a 12 mile drive home. I found a rool of duct tape in the boot. That was last year. I ...

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So the audit indicates that by Sep 31, 1908, lists three Model T's were sold.

In July 1908, a new timer for a Model T as well as N and R was available too.

from Detroit Free Press page 21 (23 July 1908)

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The two articles fro the 1908 Horseless Age indicated Henry Ford was to release a new model - the Model T. The 1 April notice gives the information for a 20 hp car to be the Model T, and the article on taxis indicate that the current 1908 taxi has the specs of a Model T chassis and running gear. The...

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According to the current Model T Ford reference book, Model T Ford, McCalley, the Model T made its first appearance 27 September 1908. My question, what constitutes the first Model ? Is a Model T the chassis and running gear, less a body? Or is a Model T a complete car appearing with Model T running...

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Really a 1920's farmer using a radio with battery...why not a free power crystal set to listen to WLW or KDKA?

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I believe if a little research is in order, one would discover that a Bosch Magneto, retail was $30.00 (in 1916) new. A manufacture would have paid less order in bulk. See Automobile Dealer and Repairer

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I have always wondered why those tuning a T would not want to use dual carbs...over carburetion?
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Well as some say "It's your car do what you want." I am puzzled why any one would want to own an early vehicle and make modern improvements - I can see period up grades, but to add options that were not options at the time the vehicle was manufactured seem to defeat the reason in having a vintage ve...

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Every once and a while on line new and useful tools are found. I plan to add a set of these to my left and right hand hammers.

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Interesting that the question of coloured exhaust manifolds come up on occasion. May I suggest that a review of an training manual from WWII be reviewed. It may help with the manifold colours and the flames. (exhaust colour Allison V-1710)

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From the site: Building in the Past. Today's Sunday building in the past: Heart River Lutheran Church, Mandan, North Dakota, 1930s

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A 1917 Pennsylvania vehicle registration issued to a driver in Blair County Pennsylvania.

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For those from Pennsylvania or who collect Pennsylvania Vehicle Registration Plates, or who want to use a period registration plate, this may be of interest. I often see publications such as the Antique Automobile Magazine of the Model T Ford Forum carrying letters from those wishing to find a long ...

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For some more information on the magneto vs speed chart this was found dated 1916. The Ford Supplement found in the Dykes 6th edition from 1916, provides the following information of the magneto output and speed with factory gearing. At an engine speed of 500 RPM in low gear a speed of 5.589 MPH and...

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As an FYI the chart was posted earlier on the forum in 2012.
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Noticed where a new way of calculating speed (and possibly engine speed - rpm) by measuring magneto out put. The meter has been presented on the forum. A meter that allows for measuring the output of the magneto. From 1921, a page showing the relationship of magneto output and speed. The only thing ...

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The ignition system of a Model T. 1. Magneto, four induction coils, and a mechanical timer, and back up for exciting coils - six dry cells. And a crank to stat the motor. 2. Magneto, four induction coils, and a mechanical timer, and six volt wet cell and crank to start motor. (Battery charged by eit...

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Every story - and photograph - has a beginning. To be repeated by others. A related earlier article has a similar jump had been successively completed by Daredevil Charles J. Wilson of Chicago in 1922. The affair was the cover story published in the October 1922 “American Automobile Digest.” The mag...

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Over the years both on the old and new Forum there has been discussion on improving the enjoyment of the Model T. A vehicle that was to bring cheap transportation to the world. Most discussion has been the induction coil. Now that resourceful individuals have up graded the alignment and test equipme...

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So "tuning" coils now is looking at the future to improve the performance of the old induction coil. It great that the future is helping the ipod users develop an app to make a buzz coil sing better. I still tune my coils old school, with a tried an true tester and make certain cushion spring is fre...

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