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The original door wood in my car was doweled

So help me out here....is Mark taking over the business, or is this a constant back and forth war?

NEVER use Western Union for anything....their money sending documents are some of the most highly forged in the industry. And there is absolutely no recourse to get your money back.

Never buy a money order from Wal-Mart or the local 7-11 either.

I just answered my own question. A gander at Rootlieb's website confirms that they are the manufacturer, not Howell's. Howell's is a distributor.

Now unless that's changed......

Is Rootlieb not in business any longer? I imagine that would be competition for Howell's or does Rootlieb actually make the stuff to begin with?

On my centerdoor passenger seat legs, they were bolted through the floor

I drove in December in the rain. Blew the muffler cover off, and had it hanging.

I've seen pictures where both seat bottoms were restored the same framing wise However, my passenger seat bottom was just a flat piece of wood with the spring attached to it with the legs bolted to the bottom. Here's how mine looked, but without the carpet bottom. PIC BORROWED FROM NET https://i.img...

the seat back and seat cushion are two pieces. The back folds down and then the seat flips to the front of the car. I have one, but it's going in my center door.

Mac's sells stripe wool cloth materials by the yard, but the stripe pattern is not original.

Well, unfortunately it cannot be assembled in the basement. I don’t have a roll up door.

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There WERE two 1915 Model T's in RAGTIME. Here's the other one. This is when "Younger Brother" played by Brad Dourif drives the car away from the hideout, because the police are looking for a Model T full of "colored folk" as Cagney described them. The car here has "ford" across the radiator grill, ...

And unless the guy at Cherokee swapped them out, the car Rollins drives has demountable rims on it.

Well, there was more than one. Unless the movie production company had it shipped to England. The JP Morgan library sets at the end of the movie when the car is driven were filmed at Shepperton Studios in the UK. I believe the reason for that is because they needed several blocks of city streets and...

Here's a picture of Howard E. Rollins, Jr. driving a 1915 touring in RAGTIME that's been "backdated" to about 1909-10, even though logically story wise, (if you know the history of what's going on in the movie), it doesn't make sense. This particular shot isn't in the movie. This scene was filmed in...

Thanks all.

My particular question was answered by my research. Thanks again

I remember that hack. I drove it one day. So you live in Florida now?

And to think I either heard or read that repair shops used to slap hub caps back on with a mallet

I sent you a PM

Thank you for those. Now that I know what they look like, I can check a friend of mine's stash and see if he has any. Probably not.

If you were to let them go, what would you ask?

Can you send me a pic of them?

I've seen a frame that has a 26 rear cross member, but the extensions on the front were welded over the top of the existing frame. Maybe a backyard job?

I don't know all the differences, that's why the question comes to me. What all exactly would need to be changed?

Other that the extra extensions that were welded to the front, longer rear crossmember, and the possibly the brake quadrant, is there any differences in a 1926 frame from earlier ones?

I was thinking how one could modify a 26 frame to fit an earlier car, IF a regular frame could not be procured.

Anybody got a set of these? for a 1922.

It is my understanding that they are different from regular splash aprons from the other Fords of that era.

a repopped set is $190, but I'd like to go original if possible.

Restoration Supply sells individual spring coils so you can replace just the damaged ones. That is if buying a complete spring assembly is out of budget.

Any one need or want? Acquired from a parts liquidation. I don’t use these on my car.

Complete and sealed in original bag. Price is as marked, but they currently run higher.

$12 plus shipping to the states.

Mine. I also have it's matching brother.

perry kete wrote: ↑
Wed May 06, 2020 7:49 pm
That was a great video.
Is that the same guy who makes those Borax Wagon wheels?
He is very talented

Not only did he make the Borax Wagon wheels, he made to full-size Borax Wagon replicas plus the water wagon for watering the 20 mule team.

I'm not planning on removing the windshield glass from the confines of it's frame. With the exception of dirt and paint over-spray, I plan on leaving it. I know some will be against that idea, but then again, I probably wont drive the car that much. I'm referring to the retainers at the bottom edge ...

How does one go about removing glass from the little metal channel that is affixed to the glass at the bottom of the pane. This is for an enclosed car.

Just curious 🤔 has there been any progress with the future of these rewooding plans? Was a price for all the plans every established? To paraphrase American Pickers, "What's your crazy price to make this happen"? Just seems a shame that these plans will be lost. IF it was, it wasn't disclosed. So m...

Changed choke return spring on the touring. Still trying to dig the broken nails out of the Centerdoor woodwork

Royce worked it out for me.

I just don't know how to get back in

I'm also a member of Royce's forum and I cannot get in it. Can't change password, can't re-register. Says website isn't set up to have the CAPTCHA function

Anyone else have that problem?

I had one come out and was bent into a 90 degree angle

I think this might be a mingling of parts. If you look closely, it has the 1922 window latching mechanisms inside.

These appear to be a kit.

A fellow Model T'er got a group of us together today for a "Smiles Parade", at least that's what I'll call it. We took several Model As, my Model T (running on only two cylinders), and a smattering of other rolling iron and did a parade though the township's neighborhoods, honking our horns as we we...

There is actually a different post from the one referenced above that shows the comparison of paint products on Model T metal. I've seen and read it, and cannot find it.

The centerdoor photo is at the T H & B station in Branford, Ontario, Canada

approx location today

Photograph of a stunt performer in an automobile in the air between two embankments on North Stanton St. Three people on the road below point upward at the car. The city of El Paso TX is visible in the background. The Martin Building is in the far distance on the right side of the street. September ...

I thought selling titles was illegal?

RIP According to Facebook, Charles ED Henline passed away on February 26, 2020

According to Facebook, Charles ED Henline passed away on February 26, 2020

How much for the remaining five pounds? to 08527

I need to take a road trip....

You should watch the video he did on the 1907 Everybody's Car wheels he restored.

Here’s a tenon that I installed where it should be. The pillar had been sawn even with the sheet metal.

Also filling and reshaping a small missing piece

Your wood rear window hoop has screws? Mine had nails.

Thanks much!

My basement is a gathering of sub-assemblies. I also have both front seat platforms, the cowl former, windshield header and a kit for the roof rails/bows. At least one other piece will need to be made and that’s the rear seat stringer. I may also need to rework the front header as it has a significa...

More pictures

Here are some pictures of progress on my 22 center door sedan.

Looking for a complete set of headlights for a 1922 Ford sedan.

Gene, your attachments didn't come through. I sent you an email with my actual email address.

Rebuilding the wooden structure of my 22 center door sedan in my basement.

When it warms up, I'll start building it on its frame outside. (Still have to pick that up)

I’m not wanting to do it for a living. I just want to be able to fix mine. I’m only 52 years old; I’ve owned my T since I was 29. I’ve worked on everything from a Model T to steam locomotives, so I’m not entirely stupid.

But make no mistake, I’m just wanting to add to my knowledge set.

Some day I hope to get someone to teach me how to Babbitt my own engine, as I would like to learn before I die. Anyway, I'm perusing the Service manual, the service bulletins and the KR Wilson catalog, and all three state that heating the block before pouring the Babbitt is not necessary. The servic...

You can buy an entire kit from Classic Wood Products in Greensboro, NC. I don't know if they sell individual pieces of wood, but it won't hurt to ask. Also, when I did my touring, I contacted Fordwood and was told it would be a 9 month wait, and that was a long time ago. I have not heard anything bu...

I received this in the mail today. It only cost me $20. I think is a Model 160, but I am not sure. There are no holes in the case to mount it to my dash bracket. My dash bracket has mounting points located at 10 am, 2 pm and 6 pm. As you can see, the speedo has a removeable mounting bracket with att...

Dallas Landers wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:59 am
Reading some of the complaints on line, it sounds like another story on the dad started the business and had a steller reputation and then the son took over and it went down hill from there.

That business you refer to had TWO sons who could not meet eye to eye and the business suffered.

I have a 1922 Center Door. There was no tag present when I got it.

Just received this in the mail. All I need is a model 160 to go in it.

There is a 1909 for sale on the Hemmings website.

One of the pictures in the add shows a two pedal/two lever set-up.

However the actual car for sale has three pedals and one lever.

Whoops.

The 24-25 tourings have a steel pillar on the RH side. I bought one from someone on the forum 10 years ago and wound up not using it, and just opted for wood when I rewooded my car.

Heel panel on hold for Les

Original pair of rear sill covers. Pitted but salvageable. I would like $10 plus shipping CONUS to you. I will not have a way to ship these until late next week. I am taking a train to pick up a car I will be gone for a few days. I can get you a quote when I return and we can finalize the deal

For sale a reproduction heel panel for the front seat of a 25 touring. Suppose it would work on a roadster too. This was painted 10 years ago with an aerosol can and stored indoors in climate control It is scratched and was not primed. It has not been drilled and was never mounted in my car. I’d lik...

If 500 bucks is all it would take to buy them, then I would do it, but I dare say that's not all it would take.

The last set of plans I have from Mel Miller has a copyright date of either 2003 or 2005 on them.

I have read the comments posted after mine, with great interest, and I have nothing against the museum at all. Having worked at a LARGE transportation museum for several years, and knowing the inner workings of a museum, if these plans went into a museum, once anything is donated to a museum, you ca...

I am very good at organization and reprinting and cataloging, but the pricing would have to be insanely cheap and that would not be fair. Unless arrangement could be made to make payments to her in kind so she could benefit from the sale of the plans as well.

I am constantly logged in

Don,

Will you be retrofitting a gas tank to go under the rear seat, or take the easy way and put it under the driver's seat? In 1915, it was under the rear.

Craftsman Tools and Eastwood Restoration teamed up to build one for the 2015 Race of Gentlemen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwPb7LKqY18

None of you have convinced this guy to not buy this thing. He's still going to look at it with a chance of buying it to "learn" on.

For the love of God, just don't go. Period.

It's like the rotating rack in a dry cleaners. It revolves. Each car is on it's own "chair"

My 22 rear seat back looks like John's. It curves at the top like his and is square at the bottom. Here's showing me removing the upholstery from it.

When Henry Ford finally stepped aside, it was inevitable that President Roosevelt was either going to take it over and force Henry to resign or install his grandson as president, because by that time I seem to recall the company was loosing 10 million a month. So the call was made to remove the gran...

Edsel Ford was only 19 in 1912, so highly doubtful he had a plan for replacing the Model T then. He didn't become president of Ford until 1919. The story about the sledgehammer is fictionalized for the movie "Henry Ford: The Man and The Machine". Cliff Robertson beat a prototype with a sledgehammer....

George House wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:12 am
Beaver Built bodies from Bay City... that’s too funny.... Here’s a picture of me in the back seat of my centerdoor. Most wimmen think I look like Pierce Brosnan...

That's because that IS Pierce Brosnan

I'm running a two cylinder Model T right now. I've got nothing but spark on 3 and 4

I compared my Classic Wood touring kit to a set of Mel Miller's drawings, and it was extremely close. You are right in that he did not do any drawings for closed cars. Fordwood was indeed taken on by the children of the original founders. That was about the time I was originally sourcing a body kit....

The hearsay I have heard is Cubel's will not make a kit if they aren't in the mood to do so.

There is no other way to contact those people except by phone, post office or email. Period. Let's say you want to get a 25 touring body kit. A kit from Classic Wood Products in Greensboro, NC is $2,600 That same kit from Fordwood (Cubels) is $1,500 BUT, and here's a kicker. If you want a roof kit f...

HOLY COW

The wood in Joe Fellin's Centerdoor, while an ambitious restoration, was not anywhere near the caliber of Les's centerdoor wood. And that's just the opinion I formed from looking at both. I'm not degrading Joe's restoration at all, because restoring a center door is a daunting task. (i know first ha...

I have a set of 4 Wards plugs. They run like crap

I just want to thank some people who have been very helpful in my restoration of my center door. Les Schubert and Don Booth have been extremely helpful, by providing pictures and measurements of different pieces. However, there are numerous unknowns out there because of the vast number of photos I’v...

With my 22 Center door sedan, I’m drawing my own plan as needed and replicating from there.

When I did my 24-25 touting, I bought a set of Mel’s plans from someone. It was missing a page. I later bought another from his daughter. However, I didn’t cut a single piece of wood from them except as practice. I actually used them to assemble a Classic Wood Products kit I bought from Bob Bergstad...

Never never never never send money thru PayPal as a gift. You have no recourse to get your money back. Always pay Goods and Services.

All four headers...2 fronts and two rears.

Replicated the front quarter window headers for both passenger and driver sides. Pocket holes and window channel attachment holes marked.

Found this....Fluting is worn on the handle.

The rotted out oil pan was still there as of today, Friday.

One way to solve this would be for someone to offer up a totally original 1914 touring and allow scientific analysis of it's paint. And I mean a car that has never been touched.

I firmly believe when the assembly line began, there was only one color.

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