MTFCA Forum

Jerry VanOoteghem

This how my dad fixed the side play issue some 40 years ago. Maybe one day, I'll fix right.... probably not.
It's a split collar.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Looks like it for sure, but.... where did those extra pictures of the mystery chassis come from????

Jerry VanOoteghem

Pretty clear the Premier used the same engine, but I don't believe our mystery car is a Premier. The front fenders look totally different and the gas tank filler looks different as well, both in location & style.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Sarikatime wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:32 am
There are more pictures down the page in a different posting. I didn’t know how to post all the pictures together. Frank

The different posting with more pictures: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19199

Jerry VanOoteghem

Suggest we all save our "breath". The OP hasn't even tried since starting this thread.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Thanks, Jerry... I have an early 20's Harley and I was (seriously) tempted to get the jugs electroplated, but knowing this, I think I'll get an electroless set up. Question - how do I keep the nickel from the inside of the jugs doing this? You would have to mask off the cylinders. Close up and seal...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Electroless nickel is best for parts with a complicated geometry. Electroplating is bad for reaching into hard-to-reach places. The prime example is nickel plating the cooling fins on an old motorcycle cylinder. With electroplating, it's nearly impossible to get nickel deep into the spaces between t...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Spinning the drums might be a solution... but if you are only making a handful, may not be worth the cost of tooling. The drums and rear wheel hubs would be easy enough to carve from solid with the right equipment I had Precision Metal Spinning make 2 new brake drums for my 1912 Overland. They were...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Flush? No, never.

Jerry VanOoteghem

He says in the comments for the video; " Hola la maqueta tiene un motor a pilas que simula el sonido del motor ." This would translate to; " Hello, the model has a battery-powered motor that simulates the sound of the motor ." A great and very detailed model, but not a gas engine. Wow. Thanks! He h...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Tbird wrote: ↑
Sat Feb 20, 2021 11:21 am
Jerry,
I thought the timers for 12-14(?) were aluminum.

Yup, it looks as if I'm mistaken.

I thought the only original aluminum ones had the integral oil filler neck.

Jerry VanOoteghem

The rims have a piece of square stock with a hole for the rim bolt in six locations and that is why the wheels are notched out. Unfortunately if they get loose the rim rocks and wears out the hole or breaks off the square stock from the rim. On my rears the "fix" was to weld the rim to the wheel. T...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I've seen this scale model Duesenberg in person & running. If this guy can make a running Duesy on this scale, then a Model T should be a cinch. Every last detail of this Duesenberg is complete & accurate, right down to working hydraulic shock absorbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6TetkMpFIc

Jerry VanOoteghem

I believe the original version of your timer was cast iron. Your oiler is missing the little knurled cap, which you already know. The underside of the cap should have a little wire loop, or maybe a cross pin as you see in the lower part of the oiler. A small spring hooks on the cross pin in the lowe...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Mark Gregush wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 19, 2021 1:38 pm
Are you guys forgetting the open to the world vented gas cap? Even if you do get any drips taken care off, that cap is still venting to outside.

I don't believe the vent hole would "breathe" enough to emit fumes that the OP can smell even in his house.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Are you guys forgetting the open to the world vented gas cap? Even if you do get any drips taken care off, that cap is still venting to outside. Didn't forget it, just focused on gas getting on the carpet. I believe the carpet he refers to in the house is suspected to have absorbed the fumes/odor t...

Jerry VanOoteghem

We found the problem. My customer wrote: I dropped the tank off at Kirks Radiator to have it boiled out. Kirk the owner looked down in side and the samples and said that substance is Polishing Compound. That makes sense to me. The tank was polished at the manufacturer and they probably didn’t have ...

Jerry VanOoteghem

There should be no odor. Chase it down and make it stop. The odor in your townhouse is not the real issue. It's the danger of fire that you want to address. A fuel shutoff at the carburetor is always a good idea.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Here is 11, sanded and stained, ready to clear coat. The twelfth is in the mail. Looking great Ignacio! You probably already know this, but when you press in the hubs, be sure to align the 6 bolt holes in the hubs with the seams between the spokes. In other words, when you drill the bolt holes, hal...

Jerry VanOoteghem

"C'mon boys, take me someplace nice"

Jerry VanOoteghem

I would not sell anything on ebay for less then $10 plus shipping. It simply isn't worth the effort to package and ship something for less then that. I would not make a special trip to the PO for a $10 item; the buyer likely would have to wait for a couple of days until I was going someplace near t...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I will remove the tires and tubes from all the rims to run that bead of weld mentioned. Jerry, You posted, “the lugs would have still retained the rim and it would not have let it come off.” Just to be clear, in my situation I did not take a photo of the wheel prior to removal. I also did not indic...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Thank you once again for doing that for me, Dan. Much appreciated! If your memory is like mine, you won't remember the points as being the same as the ones in the OP's photo, but they are. Those same points were used on the one cylinder Brush coils and the '09 Hudson (or maybe it was the '09 Cadill...

Jerry VanOoteghem

That spoke would most likely never give you any trouble. That being said, it looks terrible and I wouldn't want it in my car. Yes, get it replaced. While you should ask about what species of wood is being supplied to you, I can't see anything in your photos that tells me your spoke isn't hickory. It...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Thank you John, I thought it was cast because it is 1914 rear axle. Kind regards, It IS cast. It's cast steel, (or maybe malleable iron), but not cast iron. It should bend okay. I like Charlie B's heavy plate of steel and large c-clamp method. That way you're not pulling on the whole flange, axle t...

Jerry VanOoteghem

While that's clearly an issue, the lugs would have still retained the rim and it would not have let it come off. Demountable rims on other antique cars used lugs that were not attached directly to he rim, which is essentially what your rim became. What could have happened, is that the rim could have...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I set mine to 1.3A, as I would a Model T coil. No need that I can see to use any other setting.

As for the points, I removed the actual contact points from Model T coils and installed them into the Heinz point assemblies. They all work great!

Jerry VanOoteghem

I wish you guys would listen to yourselves. As a new person to the hobby, I have paid too much for some things because I didn't know better. And that's all. If a seller gets a high price for something you have plenty of, and the buyer is happy, it's all good. Chill out. Bill Exactly Bill. I've know...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Model T Cooker Book,

https://www.modeltford.com/item/T-COOKBOOK.aspx

Jerry VanOoteghem

TYM451 wrote: ↑
Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:38 am
i've install the e-timer. but cannot fully advance it because it comes up against the fan belt. What might be the cause?

Typically, it would be that your fan belt is too long.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Kind of reminiscent of the Delco starter-generator used on teens & 20's Buicks, at least in purpose. Dodges too I guess. Very clever!!

Jerry VanOoteghem

Allan wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:47 pm
Are you sure that is a crack and not just some mark in the casting? It doesn't look like it goes anywhere. Perhaps it needs a real check.

Allan from down under.

I agree. It would be in a very odd area. I don't believe it's your typical Model T engine block crack.

Jerry VanOoteghem

A Model T I'd like to buy is worth way too much.

My Model T's are worth way too little.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Pat Branigan Wisc wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:50 pm
I'll try to show him how to polish the brass first maybe. He enjoys hearing the horns honk on the cars. When people ask me if it's a model T I do tell them yes it is. Oldsmobile also made a model N and a Curved Dash in 1904 beat Henry on that too.

CDO Model R?

Jerry VanOoteghem

ModelT46 wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:35 pm
I was under the impression that the Highland plant in the 1920s was used only for parts manufacturing and parts assembly.

They did manufacturing and final assembly.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:37 pm

This is my 1904 Model T.

???

Whatever the old car, it's great to get the kiddos involved early and often.

LIKE.jpg

Steve,

It's a 1904 Oldsmobile Model T. They beat Ford to the name! Sounds like a lawsuit

Jerry VanOoteghem

Are your oil return holes in the tappet area plugged up?

Jerry VanOoteghem

I would probably go with 600V instead of 400V. Maybe a bit more robust.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Herb Iffrig wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:45 pm
Thanks Brent and Jerry. I guess I will look for a scroll saw to get an idea of what is missing on mine.

Millers Falls made a few different sizes. I believe the "New Rogers" is one of the larger ones and most likely the closest relative to your grinder.

Jerry VanOoteghem

I have one question--if these cars are pieces of history, why cut one in half to make a pickup truck? You can always sell a touring car & find a pickup. Hi Charles. That kind of thing was mostly done long ago, before these were pieces of history, and while they were just "old cars". Was a popular m...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Where is all this oil that clings to the surfaces of unpainted blocks and pans? Just how much oil is held "captive" by these surfaces? I just don't see the purpose of it, EXCEPT that it gives some folks satisfaction. If that's the lone benefit, then that's good enough. As to acting as a heat insulat...

Jerry VanOoteghem

And... as to "orange drops" this was taken from an AACA forum posting, "You should be able to substitute a modern .22uF, 600V or higher voltage rating film or poly capacitor (orange drop). They are non-polarized. I have used this method to re-stuff an original condenser when appearance/originality i...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Check this out. Especially the second to last paragraph... https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig129.htm Here's some more chatter... https://www.smokstak.com/forum/threads/ignition-condenser-value-question.143172/ But wait, there's more!!! https://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/forum/your-studebake...

Jerry VanOoteghem

OK. I'm going to ask: Why wouldn't a capacitor be correct for a distributor? Not needling/poking at you. Curious. Duey, I'll admit that my reasoning is pretty weak. It's because I've never seen it done. The thought being, that if that were the best way to do it, you'd see it done often. Certainly n...

Jerry VanOoteghem

You also see boat tails made from a paired up set of 1940's rear fenders, (make & model of your choosing).

Jerry VanOoteghem

From this picture, it looks like a bent rear radius rod. Jerry would remember , I’m fuzzy. I think bent radius means early N production, or do I have it backwards? Wit( that low serial number, I still think it very well could be a N. If the manifolds are taken off and no counter bores in the head, ...

Jerry VanOoteghem

So, Jerry V O, your memory cannot be too "faulty", you are almost right-on the numbers! I got out my copy of Pate's book, and in chapter 04, page 3, the chart he shows gives approximately 7,000 model Ns from 1906 through 1908, approximately 2,550 model Rs from 1907 through 1908, and a total of appr...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Missing the treadle stuff too...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Miller ... SwCaBfadtV

Jerry VanOoteghem

Herb,

The legs follow the same basic shape and style as the Millers Falls scroll saws. My guess would be that it uses the same treadle arrangement as the scroll saws.

Jerry VanOoteghem

You know they aren't. Shoot. You got me there... They really are the same... :lol: You know full-well what I was getting at. :lol: I'm looking for values for an orange drop capacitor to be used in a four cylinder distributer like a Bosch that might be on a T. :) Thank you at least for responding. :...

Jerry VanOoteghem

And just to add some clarification and confusion to the discussion. I noticed a question about the serial numbers versus the models. The N the R and the S all started at serial number one. So serial numbers below some count will be duplicated on all three models. Above that number, and below the se...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Dropacent wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:29 pm
Thanks again for this post, Danny. This is Jerry driving his beater at the old car festival 3E5F651C-4182-4C1A-904F-0D9D0092BA5C.jpeg

Wow Tim! Where did you dig that one up?!?

Jerry VanOoteghem

Condensers and capacitors are the same thing, aren't they???

Jerry VanOoteghem

Is there any news on Ron? Such a great family. So sorry to see this... Prayers!

Jerry VanOoteghem

Update - Santa was very good to me in 2020, I managed to find a correct set of E&J side lamps, E&J tail lamp and reproduction Neverout license bracket, E&J acetylene generator, and Splitdorf transformer box for the Flanders 20. The red button on the coil box switch makes and breaks the primary curr...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Brian D wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:10 pm
Area code 909. California

Thank you detective!

Jerry VanOoteghem

I’d agree with what you say , Jerry, except bodies are easily changed. I saw my first N as a teenager, and many decades later, a mutual friend of ours owns it now. He has put it back into the R that it really was. With that very early serial number, I’d want to see the head ports, and the rear radi...

Jerry VanOoteghem

It's a Model R. The turtle deck has been modified. You can see where the old trunk was cut off and the new, squared off trunk begins. Notice the patches inside that trunk that joins the old and new sections together. The exhaust pressure oiler is not correct for an R or an S. The exhaust manifold do...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Ontario Canada, or Ontario California?

Jerry VanOoteghem

As cited in the book, (but obviously not 1910)....

: Capture2.JPG (63.89 KiB) Viewed 382 times

Jerry VanOoteghem

My heart goes out to you. Before my dad passed, he told me, "I'll never be far from you." That has been a great comfort to me. I suspect the same will be true in your case, and that mom will never be far from you.

Jerry VanOoteghem

AND... The baby's name is Carol.

From the best Ford historian I know, Mike Skinner;

"Jerry – I knew the older gentleman was THE Henry Ford’s uncle, Henry Ford. But I had to look up the other names: Nancy Nutt and her daughter, Carol Nutt."

Jerry VanOoteghem

The one critical area in the assembly is setting the correct crown wheel/pinion gear mesh. Often this is interpreted as setting the backlash, but there is more to it than that. Stan's adding/removing paper gaskets in the driveshaft assembly will help to achieve an alteration in backlash. He also me...

Jerry VanOoteghem

The tricky part is getting the gauge point at the right dimension from the inner face. Drop an appropriately sized ball bearing into the taper that you're cutting. Measure how far it goes in and compare that to the same measurement in a GOOD, stock, Model T rear hub. It's possible to make the taper...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Yes, the car in the photo is a K.

Jerry VanOoteghem

No cracks in the "pass through" between #2 & #3 I hope?

Jerry VanOoteghem

I picked up the new lower windshield yesterday. The bill came to $99.77. They used my existing brass seal. Now, my question is about the rubber seals. How long should the lower rubber be, where it enters the stanchions? Does the top rubber piece just set there? Or, should it be glued on? Should the...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Toon My speculation is that using the metric gear profile was to make it more difficult for the “after market” manufacturers. It was no problem for Ford to make them to the spec. This is applicable to the straight cut early gears. When they went helical they just adjusted the fit. Are you saying th...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I'd be scared to death that gadget would come loose and make all kinds of trouble.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Are you maybe just getting too far advanced?

Jerry VanOoteghem

Miss a rivet maybe?

Jerry VanOoteghem

I did a bit more research on shot peening of crankshafts. Of course, original cranks wouldn't have been peened because the technology didn't exist at that time. But the T crank is something that would have benefitted greatly if it could have been done "back then". We probably would be seeing far fe...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Just wanted to share a photo of the reproduction key board I recently bought from Tim Morsher. Very pleased with it. I decided to mount it on an old piece of wood I had on hand. The wood is from a crate that's probably from the Model T era. Anyway, thought it looked nice and wanted to share... (eBay...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Got 2 questions? 1st Can I attach the clutch spring to the drive plate and then evenly screw it down to the brake drum? Or will that put too much pressure on the clutch ring and the 3 pins that hit the clutch fingers? 2nd. After I compress the clutch spring the pin should rest in a small detent. Ho...

Jerry VanOoteghem

In an effort to mill off as little material as possible from the head and block, would it be okay to leave minor imperfections, as long as they could be sealed with Permatex Copper Spray gasket? Jim Patrick 8173C8A6-3727-40EE-92CD-BCC64A5F8DA3.jpeg With an engine out of the car and being resurfaced...

Jerry VanOoteghem

You really need a new starter ring gear!!!

Jerry VanOoteghem

The Facebook poster who didn't agree with my answer, referred me to the Montana 500 website regarding engine modifications. My answer to him, was that I thought the original question was involving an engine in a Model T that wasn't going to be raced or that the engine builder wasn't seeking ultimat...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Might have been beneficial before T cranks commenced with 100 years of fatigue life. If you did it on the ground journals, won't you just have to regrind them to get back the surface finish, thereby removing the compression layer?

Jerry VanOoteghem

You might also come across "NIB", meaning "new in box".

Jerry VanOoteghem

Not meant to be an inclusive rational - just a perspective Its is the seller that has hired someone to manage & market the sale of items that they no longer want and negotiated the fees involved. The seller then is totally responsible for any fees that they need to pay the auctioneer. True, but the...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I believe it uses a special head bolt, with a stud coming out of the top of it that goes through the rocker cover.

Jerry VanOoteghem

https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18388 I don't understand the 10% "buyer's premium". It just cuts down what I'm willing to bid. That's because you're a reasonable person. I have been attending antique phonograph auctions for over 30 years, all by the same auction house. Just a few y...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Always interested in the wellbeing of our Model T "brothers", (& "sisters" too!), no matter what topic it's posted under. Prayers are on the way! Thanks!

Jerry VanOoteghem

Charles K. Hyde would know. He probably tells us here: https://www.amazon.com/Dodge-Brothers-M ... 300&sr=8-1

Jerry VanOoteghem

Susanne wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:42 pm
You know, if it was always easy to crank, then all of the sudden became "stiff" or difficult, you may have other internal issues such as a slipped piston pin or hung up band...

The OP states, "It has always been difficult, but seems to be getting worse."

Jerry VanOoteghem

Scrape out as much as you can right now. Then put it back together and see how it performs in warm weather. Oh, also use antifreeze. Although some will disagree, I think what you have is what's to be expected with water soluble oil.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Thanks, Dan. I think part of my problem was/is the terminology. You referred to the larger, painted steel piece as the channel and the thinner brass, nickeled piece as the strip. What piece part is the "glass clips?" Is there any tape or buffer between the strip and glass? Is there any tape or buff...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Check to be sure the leak is really from the hose connection. I've chased a stubborn leak in the past, only to discover it started from higher up, on the radiator tank. The coolant slowly travelled down and settled in the seam at the top of the hose, making the leak appear to begin there.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Hey Jerry, in order I will answer your questions. I have had the car for 10 years, and in general, she can be hand cranked, but I feel like I am fighting a lot of compression. Obviously, she doesn't like the cold and is much easier to start in the summer months. 1. It is much easier to crank when y...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I believe 27" would be the size, IF you're using all stock parts of the correct model year, (lower pulley, fan bracket, fan hub, etc.), and no water pump.

Jerry VanOoteghem

I had some free time this morning, so I removed the windshield frames. There was a gap between the top and bottom glass. The bottom is just a piece of plexiglass. It appears to be too short. I am thinking that, maybe, I should replace both the bottom and the top glass. Does anyone have the correct ...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Tomdoc, Lots of questions come to mind. But first, the theory you got about what may be causing it, is just not possible. At least as stated. Questions... 1. Is the car just as hard to crank if you put the car in high gear and jack up the rear wheels? 2. How often do you check the oil level in the e...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Can you elaborate on what exactly "tinning butter" is? [/size] Here you go, Jerry. IMG_5824 copy.JPG IMG_5825 copy.JPG I bought it to use with body solder and mistakenly figured it would be OK for soldering mag coils, not realizing that it's corrosive to copper. It's not OK for that, as our friend ...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Charles J wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:34 am
I think some people need to start their own post instead of getting on mine

??? I thought this was Tom Rootlieb's thread.

Jerry VanOoteghem

Dan Hatch wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:36 pm
Here is link to gas tank repair
https://www.gastankrenu.com/

Exactly! I suggested them weeks ago....

Jerry VanOoteghem

WARNING: DON'T DO IT! Last night I received an email from a forum member who was kind enough to give me a heads-up on what I had done wrong. I'm posting it here because I don't want anybody to see what I did ignorantly and think it's a good idea: I cannot overstate the fact that tinning butter is h...

Jerry VanOoteghem

If and when I do decide to sell, I will look for a club member who would like to buy it, and offer it for a reasonable price. Norm Norm, At least in my mind, when the time is right, my ideal situation would be to identify a young member who would appreciate it, who would not expect it, and to simpl...

Jerry VanOoteghem

Terry, I have always been of the opinion that a person's ownership of any item gives that person the right to set the price for it. If a certain price is what it's worth to them , then who am I to say otherwise. That's the price at which they'd let it go. A price that's way too high is probably a pr...

Jerry VanOoteghem

I hope you'll all pardon my uninformed advice, given I've never rebuilt a coil ring. However, in my experience with other things electrical, my experience has been that more insulation is better than less insulation.

Jerry VanOoteghem

If you decide to keep that gear, make sure that the cam nut is tight. I have had two fiber gear failures in T engines. Both were rebuilt in the '70s so probably newer gears and maybe the bad ones, but both were also loose and appeared to have been loose for some time. I'm sure the looseness contrib...

Search found 676 matches