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A picture of the project. Currently am starting to work on the wooden bed.

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More photos. You can never have too many photos!

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Wanted to Trade: What I have: A pair of 1924/25 Coupe rear Fenders. They are clean, strait, and older (original?) paint. Some surface rust, no pitting. Have not had body work done to them. Honest 'original' ford steel. Brackets are installed. Have crown to them. What you see in the photos is what I...

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Mine... the two smalls came out of the workbench of the house when i bought it. The Swiss I bought and carried in College.

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Shot of ford tag. I can definitely confirm this tag was once on the firewall to the left of the steering column. The missing corner was still sandwiched between body and firewall!

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Hap, THANK YOU! You are a true gentleman and friend of the hobby. I will be sending you an email! I agree with and understand your considerations regarding the bed and frame rails. I've attached some photos of mine. Also, yes the body has a B on the front seat heal kick area and is a Beaudette body ...

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Thank you Rich!

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I'll be starting on a wooden bed for my 1915 cut-down touring soon. Instead of making it all up, was hoping to start with plans for an accessory bed if available. Does anyone have a good source to share? Thank you in advance! Photos shown are of other members from here that I've been saving in an 'i...

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Good idea. I keep my coil box key upside down so I won't kick it and shut off the car (again). IMG_3325 copy.JPG I use a chain here so I won't lose my filler cap (again). Steve, great idea on reversing the key! I'm going to do that in the future so that it is easy for this fat guy with short arms t...

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On the recent T towing thread many folks commented about removing key so you don't lose it. Having some near misses ourselves, my father has started affixing our keys to the firewall with a length of chain. Enough slack to allow for use. And solid enough to prevent unintentional loss or the key 'wal...

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At least they are timely with the refund! They are still trying to put on the Saturday show day. Consider bringing a T and placing it non-judged in class on the Show field now that we don't have to the fleamarket to occupy our time. My 1915 T won't make it this year, but I plan on registering my ori...

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Dallas, this is great. What its all about!

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Just thought I'd share a shot and my excitement! Got my 1915 cut-down touring running yesterday, and actually drove a 'T' fir the first time! Even though we have two other T's in the family, I've never been behind the wheel. Yesterday was the first time since the early 1960s the car ran under its ow...

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Erik, agreed and thank you! I got to drive it for the first time today. I think its actually more pliable than I thought and should hold up a bit.

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I've recently used some PECARD antique leather dressing on a pair of old driving gloves and got great results. Has anyone used a Pecard product on their old Ford seats? Mine are dry and I'd like to freshen them up a bit. Not even sure if the material is original or replacement (likely) but think it'...

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Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:42 pm

It really has a great look to it Andrew....I love it.

Thanks! It's going to be a fun little pickup once we are done with it, wearing it's working cloths just like a farmer in 1920-somthing would have done. And likely did do.

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After body being separated from frame for a little over a year, we placed them back together after a thorough mechanical review of the chasis. Fenders, running boards and splash apron were removed when i got it. This the the first time this cut down touring has had the body and those parts on the fr...

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Great find!

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Dallas, that truck is great!

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If you are closer to eastern Pennsylvania, Calimers is a great option. Seems like his shop and Stutzman always come up on these threads as having great reputations. Seems like shipping can be part of the decision process. My brother had a set done here for his 1923. http://www.calimerswheelshop.com/...

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Wayne, thank you for the time to type out that info! It aligns with other information I've read or has come up in discussion. This car will always be a conversation piece, for sure, and your thoughts illustrate one of the reasons that dad and I are trying out hardest to not manipulate the car as it ...

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Haha, thank you Duey! I was in love over a year ago when I initially saw it sitting in the garage! This is the first time the car has been back together since the mid-1960s! Photo from the day I met her.

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Thank you Dallas! Your truck is great as well!

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Thank you Rich!

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Steve, yep a bed, still working on the design but I've been saving photos for inspiration. Regarding the rear axle, the body is a Beudette body, with a body number that indicates its a January 1915 production, which I think could make this an early 1915 touring body. Obviously things have been chang...

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Over the last several years or so, I've enjoyed seeing other's project progress, so thought id share mine. After a little over a year of disassembly, mechanical checking and rebuilding, my 1915 cut-down touring is finally pretty much back together again as of today. She may be wearing a 'little pati...

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Awesome, thank you Dan!

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Is there a resource that depicts what T pricing was through the years of production.? It's easy to find what the lowest OEM price was.... but wondering for instance what Ford was charging in the first or second quarter of 1915 for a touring car.

Thank you in advance!

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You guys are wonderful and gracious with your knowledge! Thank you! I have all the hand-forged parts from an Indiana farm wagon that was rotting away on an uncle's property to use for hardware. The boards will be from rough sawn hemlock taken from my parent's property. Dad and I plan on starting the...

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Thank you both! Especially Mark for the photos! Sweet!

Mike, I'm near Hershey, PA. Where they have the AACA fall meet. I might email you even though we are far apart!

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Good day! I'm in the process of piecing together / building a wooden pickup bed for my 1915 cut-down touring car. A farmers special if you will. While the body and all other sheet metal that came with my project car is appropriate to the 1915 year, the rear fenders are 1925-26 coupe. I assume that c...

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Rob, as always well researched and exciting read! Bravo. A question I had as reading this... These racers were taken around the country to the various races. How did they get there? By railroad to the closest depot and then driven to the track? I would assume this time period was too early for a tru...

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Steve, great method. I agree, if your tanks are good, maintain the originality. Hard to find good shoes to record in today's world, but I am sure they are out there!

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Marl, thank you for the awesome information download. You cleared much up for me, along with previous posts of course. I'll need to spend some time with the swivel and see where it gets me.

Thank you!

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Thank you Russ and Original Smith! Russ. The fiber head I show was actually mounted on my car, I do not necessarily imply that it us original to the car, only that it was on the car when I got it, but the ring gear was not. Photo below. This car has many unique accessories (as maybe you can see from...

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Does anyone have a good source for the special front bolt? I have an accessory mag post. Thank you in advance!

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Here are photos of the drive and fiber gear. The spindle for the fiber gear has what appears to be a '40' cast into it.

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Along with my 1915 cut down touring, came some boxes of parts. In those parts were these Stewart speedometer drive gears and drive itself. I do not have the speedometer itself, or the cable. Was hoping the experts out there could help me discern what I have or point me in the right direction of refe...

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Again, dad and I will learn from your car when working on mine! Now get that together so we can get my rear axle in the jig! Haha kidding brother!

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Wanted: Early style (3" diameter) crankshaft pulley. Good condition with nice crown preferred as it will be put on a car I intend to get running this year. Photo from Mr. Chaffin's post from two months ago provided for reference. Only just realized I needed one, or I would have bought his! Photo of ...

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My father started fitting up sheet metal to my 1915 cut down touring project. Check out the accessory splash apron trim.

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Here is mine... 1915 Beaudette touring body.

Mounted in the same location.

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Thank you all, I'm questioning whether this was on the car or not now too. When he emailed and said he had it, I had visions of a Ford Special. You dont always luck out! Keith Townsend. The body is a Beaudette body with brass tag on the top of the seat riser. Number 115203588. In the photo you will ...

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The former owner of my Jan. 1915 touring body just gave me a speedometer head that was with the car, but got lost with him moving. Nice of him to pass it on. I'm not familiar with the North East brand. Photos I look up show Model A speedometers. I'm thinking this might be aftermarket? Can anyone tel...

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Thank you guys for the insights! Gonna be chasing a hi head at Hershey.

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Actually, it's in great shape, thank you.

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Thank you HumbleJ... just what I needed. My home base is in the chocolate field, so not worried about carrying!

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Good day. I have a 1922 engine with a cracked head. Head is cracked the length of the top, right down the water outlet. I'm going to be searching for a replacement head at Hershey this week. I know the 1922 head is a 'high' head. Do I need to get a high head to replace, or will an early low head wor...

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You could remove the cracked ears and then find some accessory repair brackets. My 1922 engine pan came with these. Pretty neat accessories that work well.

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January 1915 touring body. Nice and tight in my situation. Pretty sure your door sag is just from age/use. Common in many years of Ts. Can be fixed with a diagonal cable and turn buckle on the interior wood door frame.

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Thank you George.

Yes, line will be re-routed. We actually pulled this engine out right after the photo was taken. As I got it, the car is cobbled together and there are many small changes needed to make it right, and safe!

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I agree Scott! Might have been a frustrated mechanic at some point.

The whole engine is painted an industrial looking orange. We can't help but wonder if the engine was a power unit at some point in its life.

Andy B.

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Thought I'd share these unusual parts. Pulled the Sept. 1922 engine out of my 1915 cut down touring today. This car is nice and cobbled together, a real farmer's special. Two interesting items or accessories of note on the car are the two different 'Crank case repair arms' used in place of the rivet...

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In the 'for what its worth' category. I just recieved my J.C. Taylor premium in the mail yesterday. I've been waiting for the renewal since reading this post. My policy went up $0 from last year. That's right, I'm paying the same rate as last year on my 1954 chevrolet, agreed upon value policy. I al...

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Revolving around my newly acquired 1915 cut down touring... I pulled the head off the '22 engine for the first time and discovered bird seed, but smooth cylinder walls. Salvaged had forged hardware from an old farm wagon for a pickup bed. And got ready to freshen up a Holley NH.

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My dad did the double wishbone with his '16... but if you are lucky as I am with my '15, you might also run across something like this. An uncommon accessory spring, perches and wishbone mount... many ways to skin the proverbial cat.

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Rob... fantastic! Want to shake your hand at Hershey!

So, when does the book come out? I want to pre-order a copy!

Andy B

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I really liked this 15-16 roadster... a nice, honest and fun car.

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More photos

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More photos

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Had a nice Sunday morning taking in the HCCA BBC (Beautiful Brass Cars) Sunday show and flea market in Strasburg, PA. Show goes from 10am to 4pm at the parking lot of the PA Railway museum. Lots of early fords there this year. The photos are from before lunch, so more may have shown up later in the ...

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Test for you Matt. I clicked the attach files tab below my response. Seems to have worked?

AndyB

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Thank you Dan! Seemed pretty cool and wanted to share. Always amazed at the number of accessories offered for these cars!

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Thought I would share this neat CASCO coil box accessory. What at first looks like just a home made metal shield, seems to be the shield, porcelain posts, and rubber grommets between the posts and the shield. Something neat, but certainly one of those accessories that sounded good in Principal, but ...

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Thank you all! I plan on making the repros a little more worn with the blackening agent that has been discussed until I can find suitable originals. Cheers!

Andy

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Thank you Steve! I'll let you guys know.. full report. ha

Andy

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Curious to see if anyone has had experience with these. I need to check to see if they are the right NPT, which my answer my question. ha.

Andy B.

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Another question for the combined knowledge of the board... the parts box that came with my car included these four brass hub caps.. the car only had one old cap on the car. I think the one on the car is original, given the clean definition of the letters, and the four brass ones are reports, given ...

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Mark, this is great! Love the look and utility. I'm hoping to achieve similar with my '15 cut down touring.

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My recently acquired 15 T with 22 engine has Champion X's in the engine, but in the parts boxes that came with the car had four of these 'Bowers Ceramite Sealed' spark plugs. Plugs are # 12-H's and appear to be new in box. My dad and brother run the champion X's in theirs and I'll probably do the sa...

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Boy, I am not sure. I'll have to ask my dad. The car is in his garage until we get it running and I make room in mine.

Andy b.

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Hap, was able to take photos today for you. To the best of my knowledge, the hinges haven't been messed with on this car and are as installed in January 1915.

Andy B.

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Walter, those are nice results on your fasteners! I gotta remember this to apply to some repro hub caps which came with my 1915 cutdown.

Andy B.

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Looking more closely at your badge, it sure looks like the number starts with 3 16. Maybe from a 1916? Just a guess here, not sure if these tags ran into 16. Your best bet is to look on the seat riser on your car and try to locate matching tack holes. In any event... Here is a link to my 1915 post. ...

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My 1915 body # plate is on the top if the front seat riser as well. The first three digits are the month and year of body manufacture... mind you, not car assembly, but body manufacture. Mine is a January 1915 touring body made by the Beudette(sp?) Company, a subcontractor for Ford. See the pictures...

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Walker... it's a 15 T, painted green long ago.

Andy B.

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Adam, thank you for the insight. My buddy started putting in the hardened seats, there was some sort of defect there @ that cylinder that he wanted to check out before going further.

Andy B.

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Some more photos

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Good morning! I am looking for confirmation that this is a 1915 engine block. The way the block is stored, these are the best photos we could get. It is a bare block without pan, but it is a pre-generator block. Number stamped above water outlet: 846105 Casting mark (?): 6 25 15 Thank you in advance...

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Rob, sounds great! I always enjoy your enthusiasm and willingness to share!

Andy

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Rob,

I enjoy how the passenger seat of the #10 is 'perched' squarely over the frame rail.

Forgive me, maybe I should know, but is the #10 the racer your are working on now?

Andy B.

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Dan, I'll be at the HCCA on Sunday too. Friday and Saturday I'll be hanging with friends at the Jalopy Showdown near Dillsburg.

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What a honor to call that man a friend.

Do not loose too much heart. Nice write-up on the NY times. USA today also carried one.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/09/obit ... -dead.html

Andy

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Hap, you are a gentleman and a scholar! Thank you for the excellent information. I'll be up late tonight reading! I'm definatly taking the standpoint of not turning back history on this car. It's been this way since at least 1962. Dad and I are just going to get her running like new and I will then ...

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Hap, I will need to remember to take some good photos of mine. Believed to be as they came from the factory; January 1915 Beaudette Body. All I got right now is a photo of the lid up!

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Thank you all, great shots and inspiration!

Andy

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Jeff, yes!!! That is one I was thinking of!

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Years ago I saw some shots of Hap 1915s cut off touring and never thought I'd have my own. Now I have a 1915 cut down touring, but can't find some good photos of Haps car for inspiration. Does anyone have photos of early cut down tourings they could share? Or better yet, threads that describe simila...

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Some more

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Thank you all for the encouraging comments and information! Was able to snap some photos of the ID tags tonight.

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Nice 1919... Will take photos of the turtle for ya next time I'm out at the home garage. Paint? None of us in my family are body men, so the car will not see a lick of paint, but will end up running like a swiss watch! It tells a story as it sits and is solid enough that I wouldn't want to touch it....

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Few more sheet metal shots...

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Thank you all for your comments and thoughts! I know there is a lot of collective knowledge on this forum! I'm under no grand illusions of what this car might be... it's fun to piece together the information. Regarding the brass tags, they were put under the seat a while ago. So cool to still have t...

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Me too... the green paint just look 'right' on this car.

Andy

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Steve and company, yes. The engine is 6484491 which makes the engine a Sept. 1922 model if I am reading this correctly:

http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/sernos.htm

Thanks guys! I'm calling it a Farmer's Special. Ha

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Good day! I've followed this forum off and on for years with two other model T's in the family, and myself being a GM man. But I've finally come to the ''T-side' with my dad and brother... This week an opportunity presented itself to become a caretaker for a neat little T and I was able to jump at t...

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Thank you both! We thought it might be an uncommon set up, but weren't sure. What is cool is that the wish-bone placement corrects the early ford chassis flaw with the top-mounted wishbone. Gonna keep this one on the car as a conversation piece!

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Good day! I've recently entered into the world of the model T with a 1915 cut-down touring with what I believe is a 1915 chassis powered by a 1922 engine. A real farmers special! Anyways, the front of the chassis is interesting... it has what looks like an elongated long spring with accessory perche...

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Dan B wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:01 pm
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