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Never noticed the W mark or no period after the A before reading this post on hubcaps. It’s amazing how the simplest part on a T can be a thing of beauty... almost look like art.

Darin

David,

Those are beautiful. Thank you for sharing the pics!

Darin

We’ve begun the same discussion in Georgia and we have received more than sufficient interest. Any persons in Georgia interested in participating in this journey, or wanting to possibly join in the future, please message me if you haven’t already received an email about the matter. We are attempting...

I plan on bringing him some work later this winter so I can have new spokes for next year’s Ting.

Darin

Larry and Tim - 100% agree. I didn’t even pay attention to the commuter rod until this issue. I’ve already ordered the correct rod and swivel from Lang’s and it should be here soon.

Darin

The reason I referenced setting 15 degrees after TDC was from reading on this forum and articles written on the T ignition system. I didn’t know if this was a Ford recommendation or simply a rule of thumb. Jeff and Norman - Thank you for mentioning commuter rod slop and bending issues. I do have slo...

You start one project then find two more which need to be done. This is a case of I don’t know what I don’t know. The advance lever, though the commuter rod, has to send the timer through a certain range of motion in order to generate a spark in the cylinder at a certain amount of degrees before or ...

Merry Christmas

40 mile trip went nice and smooth. No problem whatsoever. Started easily and cruised 35-40 most of the way.

Drained the sediment bulb. A few very tiny bits of debris but overall, the gas looked good.

Darin

Norman, Thank you for the advice, in answer to some of your questions/comments: The 13T is hand crank start only The Holley NH was rebuilt by a Model T carb expert Last filled the gas tank Dec 2 I’ll drain the sediment bulb today and let ya know I follow the turning off and starting procedures you m...

Inside of the carb bowl. Didn’t see any sludge in it. Should I drain the gas tank’s petcock to see what comes out of that?

Went back out today, in the 50s, and tried again with no luck. Checked compression (all cylinders low 50s), checked spark, etc. I decided to see how the fuel flow was, so I opened the carb bowl petcock and the flow was good. Looked at the gas and immediately saw discoloration (bottom pic). I decided...

Dan,

I choke the carb for two hand cranks for a cold engine. Don’t choke the carb if the engine is warm.

A few months ago I put a Holley NH carb on the 13T. I set the mixture per the guide on the MTFCA site. Reading past threads, I understood some Ts require making the mixture a little rich by a quarter or half turn to get a cold engine started. That being said, my Holley NH runs about 1.25 turns open ...

I did! Haha Lots of different ways to learn... doing it the wrong way is one of them.

Darin

I’ve never put the top up before!

Moved the pins after getting some suggestions.

The 1913 T is in its first Christmas parade in well over a decade. On Instagram @georgia_peach_t

Here is a pic of the 13T before heading to the parade and some of the friends we met lining up.

Darin

Robert,

Why do you suggest .025? Is that for motorcraft plugs or T plugs in general?

Darin

I took out each plug and noticed the common result of the plugs looking progressively better the farther back ya go. I cleaned the plugs with a soft brush I usually use to clean carbon off my firearms. I found almost all the material appeared to be like a soot. Came off very easily with brushing. Th...

I had a fan pulley go bad. Took off the radiator, replaced the fan pulley, and knocked out a few other little projects/maintenance. I was redoing the timing so I took off the #1 spark plug... I was surprised to see it appeared fouled. Took off the #2 plus since I’ve heard the front spark plug can be...

On another thread I was asked about the band type currently in the 13T. I didn’t install these bands, so I don’t know the type. I’ve previously found a box of Scandinavian bands in one of the parts boxes, possibly a clue. I’ve attached a pic, do they look like the Scandinavian type bands? I read a p...

The plate currently on the Georgia Peach T

because that’s where she’s cruised most of her miles. It’s affixed to the front of the 13T because Georgia doesn’t have front plates... you can put whatever you want.

Darin

I was able to get some pics of the bands today to help determine what type they are. Do they look like the Scandinavian type?

Jace,

I asked a similar question earlier this year and this was the most common response for the differential, 600w rear axle grease from T suppliers, like Lang’s:

https://www.modeltford.com/item/600W.aspx

Darin

Named the 13T on instagram @georgia_peach_t

Darin

Steve - I’ll send a pic probably Tuesday when I have a break from work next. George - I’m very concerned with the safety issues. The issue with speed is I want to ensure the T is performing properly... I know it’s not when I could barely get over 25 mph. So I don’t want to run like a scalded dog, si...

Dan, I don’t know what the band linings my grandpa installed were; however, I will tell ya he had a set of Scandinavia linings in his parts box. I know that doesn’t mean that’s what he has in there but it seems to me a lot of folks become creatures of habit with their T with things like linings. As ...

Mark, Completely agree! I tested the mag today and sent an email to Ron Patterson. The 1156 bulb got successively brighter with each increase in RPM; however, I believe there is a mag issue. Slow idle - 5 VAC Fast idle - 7 VAC Engine opened about half throttle - 8 VAC Thinking those values are a lit...

I swung by the local parts store and picked up a lawn/garden 12v battery since this was for an experiment. Disconnected the mag wire from the post to the coil box, since I’m not currently using it, and wired the 12v battery to the coil box on the mag’s old side. I left the 6v on the battery side. Th...

Ron - I read your article before while researching past MTFCA discussion threads. Loved it. Wouldn’t have guessed 2 milliseconds could make such a difference until finishing up your article. Honestly, didn’t realize how many degrees of rotation occurred in that time frame. Thank you. Also, I bought ...

Steve,

Where can you buy new shoes/pads for AC brakes?

Darin

Answer a few more questions which were asked: John - My timing was setup well but I will check to see how far it is advancing. My commuter/timer pull rod is rubbing up against the outlet connection pipe. I wonder if that’s limiting the ability of it to advanced the timer enough. Mark - 45 psi in eve...

I know my grandpa had a wreck in the 13T possibly during the 1976 Fulton, MO tour. Believe my grandma had to go to the hospital, grandpa was okay, and the 13T wasn’t ever as straight as she was before. I’ve been told the cause in the past but seem to have forgot, steering related. Maybe a bolt comin...

Wayne,

Those memories are from around 30+ years ago. Also, I use ethanol-free gas every time.

Darin

Dick, you said you use a computer battery? What make and model? Curious what you’re referring to.

Obviously, I don’t need a lead acid or gel battery since I don’t have a starter. Anyone else use a rechargeable 12v battery alternative to a traditional car battery?

Darin

Same, received a call from Birdhaven last week they would be able to fulfill a backordered 6v VR. It arrived earlier this week.

I’m hoping Fun Projects may have finally been able to bring their VRs back onto market.

Darin

Warwick - I adjusted the Holley NH carb at idle and with an open throttle. The procedure followed was in the following instructions: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/holley.pdf I’m all ears if there’s a better way. Scott - I didn’t rebuild the carb but went to the expert, Russ Potter. I don’t know which...

T’ers, I’m hoping next year the COVID issue will be such that activities like T club meets may resume because I could use some experience and wisdom to help diagnose some issues. One I’ll try to ask here is about power. I don’t have a knowledge base of driving Ts... so what seems like an anomaly to ...

James, I can’t believe I missed the two brush detail... it’s only in bold. smh

Mark, is overcharging the battery a concern with a diode?

Darin

I know several folks have put their Ts in Christmas parades... even if you’ve since tired of them and no longer participate. For someone like me who has never done one before and considering whether to do one or not... any advice, best practices, or pitfalls to avoid? Oh and this would be in Georgia...

Last I heard, Fun Projects has still not rereleased their VRs for sale. I currently have a 6v system but would the following be an alternative, though obviously a non-stock appearance, for someone with a 6v system? A temporary alternative until Fun Project VRs are once again in stock. https://www.st...

Checked the bolts on the front hubs and they’re tight. A closer of pic of the two worst spokes. No spokes seem to be loose. The rest of the spokes all are in better condition than these two. I don’t know how deep the issue goes into the center of the spoke but you can push a fingernail into the surf...

This is the last tool I found in the old toolbox. Would this be used for mounting/demounting tires on rims?

Gentlemen, I’ll check the things you mentioned. This is where having a normal, non-COVID, year sure would be a benefit in order to meet a Model T club. Some experienced folks having the 13T right in front of them could quickly tell the conditions of the spokes since they could go hands on. I know pi...

I was inspecting my spokes today and one wheel’s spokes appear to have possibly crossed the line into a safety issue. I have done the tap test multiple times before on all my spokes and they sound fine. No knocks or any other sounds when I’m driving. But I took a closer look at some discoloration an...

I have a 6 volt system and hand crank start the 13T on battery. I’m sure you’ll get a variety of answers since you can start on magneto... but it seems I’ve read most folks saying they start on battery then switch to magneto. The battery’s voltage is constant so it’s simply a matter of getting the e...

Last night, I found letter, dated 8/16/1972, from Firestone to my grandpa about getting out of the antique tire business.

Darin

Tim,

I agree with Mark and Dennis. It appears I have the exact same fuel cutoff.

On/open is pointed toward the fuel line. I attached a pic of it in the on/open position.

Off is pointed at the carb.

Darin

I just found three carbs in a box I didn’t even know I had. Potential future candidates for rebuilding.

Darin

Steve,

The backs of the cutouts.

Darin

Peter, Thank you for the stories about my grandpa! I’ve already told my parents and they said they’ve never heard that story. Allan, My dad never toured. We’re you on the 1989 tour? I saw a T owned by an Allan in that book and I immediately thought of Allan Down Under... even if the odds aren’t it b...

Found these old Australia related items grandpa had.

Darin

Found a Master Vibrator and a couple of old fire extinguishers, including a very small one (not as wide as a hammer head).

Found an old box of bands... are these good forever or have a shelf life?

And can I use a voltmeter to see if these diodes (guessing not VRs) are good?

I had only added things to the 13T’s toolbox... threw in what I had with grandpa’s old stuff. Today, I deep cleaned the tool box. Found a Ford wrench labeled simply with 1 and 2. What bolt were these designed specifically for? Then found a tool which will have a simple enough explanation but I have ...

James,

Good article from fun projects. Thank you for sharing.

Darin

It’s a 251,xxx so April 1913, I believe.

Darin

Larry, yeah I think that’s a reasonable future project. Spray needle 6213 and clamp but 6208 would be all I need, right?

Darin

Larry, Almost everything I’ve done on the 13T has been getting it closer to original in a series of baby steps. However, I guess in my mind if I do something which is a deviation from that process... I would hope it’s a choice which someone who owned the 13T back in the day may have reasonably made ...

The 13T has no starter and runs with a 25 engine right now. The original engine is in my garage waiting for some attention.

I crank start and run off a 6v battery as my magneto works but it results in a rough running engine. The mag will be a future project to work on.

Darin

I also don’t know what I don’t know... but always pursuing knowledge and learning. Please let me know if there’s any comments or concerns when looking at the pic of the installed carb setup.

Thank you,
Darin

I have been running a Kingston carb (L4?) on the 13T. Over the last year, I’ve read numerous threads about T carbs and decided I wanted to purchase a new model carb and keep the Kingston in reserve as a backup/spare. Though there’s always debate and disagreement... there seemed to be a consensus som...

I, also, used Evaporust in the 13T’s water jackets to remove any rust prior to installing a new brass radiator. I found the product extremely easy to use and liked the fact the product addressed rust though the chelation... which meant it wasn’t caustic or a hazardous material.

Darin

Thank you for the advice! I’ll post more pics when I make more progress.

Darin

Decided to work toward getting functional lamps since I picked up an acetylene generator at Luray. Was able to get one of the oil lamps immediately started up with a new wick. Attached are the pics. The other oil lamp has a leaking base. So will see if I can seal up the pinholes then get it lit with...

Isn’t the point of the “A” configuration to cause the gas streams, when they hit each other, to create a wide/broad flame for greater reflected illumination?

Darin

Ken,

I believe so... pics of the insides.

Darin

Those are some good pics. Any more vendors show? I heard there were potentially 110 who were going to show up. Wonder if any of the Ts sold.

Darin

Nine and a half years later... got a carbide generator at the Luray swap meet. Was rereading a thread where I asked about carbide generators and remember Bob Corio’s painting a picture of pleasing the crowd with magical T skills... http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/184089.html?1295471465 I...

Dan, this is what it looked like from the entrance as you approached the vendor area.

Darin

Last of the Ts for sale

Final purchases

Another T for sale and my first purchase of the day

A few more

Couple of Ts for sale

Welcome. Great weather for the meet. Sharing some pics of T’s for sale and purchases today for the folks who couldn’t be here.

Feel free to post your pics if you went to the meet.

Darin

Jonah,

I’m going to be going, also. I asked a similar question a little while ago. Read this thread... some good tips were shared.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15748&p=120055&hili ... et#p120055

Darin

Tony,

Another excellent reference pic. Thank you for your time sharing that pic.

Darin

Dan,

Great help, thank you!

Darin

Dan, that pic you posted showing the harness going up the firewall is what I was looking for. That makes sense to keep the harness away from the exhaust manifold. I’ll need to find a clip and that magic can happen. I’ll keep looking for some good pics of restored 09-14 engine compartments but think ...

Larry, Thank you. I use google to search previous MTFCA discussions. Usually works good but different keywords can bring up different results obviously. I didn’t see your thread when I checked google prior to asking this question; however, I searched it with the discussion forum’s search and found t...

I have E&J Model 666 gas lamps on the 13T... they are all brass, not black/brass, so I understand they're not original; however, they're beautiful and for now I plan on keeping them on there since that's what grandpa had. Years ago, grandpa had a prestolite tank on the running board but I don't ever...

Does anyone have a picture of their wiring harness in the engine compartment if you have it setup pretty close to original? I saw this part from Langs says it's the original style harness for a 1909-1914. Also, curious how it is hooked up/oriented in the engine compartment. I have a wiring harness w...

The 13T is currently in a forced parked situation until I get a u-bolt mounting set in due to some missing bolts. I’ve purchased a rebuilt Holley NH carb from Russ which I plan on being the primary carb for the 13T. Once that’s installed, I’ll take apart the Kingston and see what the issue is. Thank...

Jim,

Don’t know the reason but it’s where I am now. I’ve ordered the kit from Lang’s and plan on the T being parked until I get them installed.

Darin

Believe a Kingston L4 but not positive. Working on procuring a Holley NH.

David,

Thank you, sir. Lang’s is who I use.

Darin

I found saw what appeared to be a new oil leak. Went under the T and saw two bolts missing, one at the five o’clock and one at the seven o’clock. They look critical enough that I am guessing I should drive again until they’re replace... but that is an assumption on my part. Ford didn’t see like the ...

I’ve had some issue with a lack of power and the T running rough when the throttle is open more than halfway or so. Been going on since I got it back on the road about a month ago. I have a solution I’m working on just don’t have it in place yet. I drove the T to my barber shop about an hour ago. T ...

Mark,

There ya go... I was thinking I could possibly bring a part or two. Sticking with cash.

Darin

jiminbartow wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:23 pm
. In addition its’ spindly appearance, which resembled a newborn colt taking its’ first steps that garnered a certain sympathy and bond between its’ owner and his T,

Jim, an apt description. Very well put.

Darin

Took the 13T to a local car show with over 125 cars. The Model T got the Promoters Choice trophy for being the favorite car. He said the Ford Model T simply stands out from the rest. Sharing with you guys for two reasons. First, because my grandpa, Roger Hull, would be happy his T is out being enjoy...

Looking forward to the meet!

Darin

Hello, I was oiling up the T and for some reason saw something I missed before. It’s a cable attached to the bar underneath the T operated by the hand brake. The cable goes back to the rear drums. This looks like some type of mod to the brakes... my grandpa was known for such things. Looking at the ...

I plan on heading to Luray in a few weeks for the swap meet. This will be my first one. Folks ever bring random parts to barter/trade with? There’s some things I’m interested in purchasing in the near future like Rocky Mountain brakes, new carb, etc. I’m guessing the RMB may be best purchased right ...

I’m on both forums and feel this one is active enough.. do you guys remember the MTFCI forum a decade ago? Not even 10% of the postings this one had. I believe it’s not operating anymore, correct? The main difference I have noticed between the FB forum versus here, is it seems there’s more experienc...

That sounds like great news for the organizers and folks who plan on attending.

Anyone bringing some Model T rebuilt carbs?

Darin

I followed the diagram John posted on my recent thread after purchasing a new Brassworks radiator. It was easy and worked perfectly.

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