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Allan

Thomas, the panels are likely spot welded together along the rolled beads. These welds can be difficult to spot on a rusty/painted panel. From your photos, I would not replace the whole panel and go through the process of massaging a reproduction panel to fit. Rather, I would have sheet metal worker...

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Can anybody shift this to the forum rather than the classifieds?

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I have always thought that the low radiator shells had side panels square to the front panel. When the high radiators were introduced,some time in 1923, I believed that the sides were then angled outwards at the back to follow the line of the hood. We purchased a new reproduction shell for a 1925 to...

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Bill, I could use two of them, if you would part them out. In the bottom row, I'd like the first and fifth one from the right, the two with the valve removing tool on the end. If you'd rather not part them out, perhaps the buyer of the lot would.

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Hank, that's a way better design than the abomination that was fitted to my Tudor when it arrived in Australia. What a complicated mess it was. I Presume somewhere in the system there is a return spring to be fitted, seeing the manual feed will not be used.

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Layden, they look like nickel to me. Such items are usually barrel plated. That is they are tumbled during plating, rather than polished and individually plated. Hence they do not have a highly polished reflective surface. Chrome plating has a blue hue, rather than the yellowish colour of nickel. bu...

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larry, can you advise what diameter the rivets are that are used to attach the carrier to the frame? Our Canadian frames have 3 holes each side to enable the carrier to be mounted with the battery on the left or right side of the car, just as they have the holes for left or right hand drive steering...

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John, reriviting is incorrect because rivit is what frogs say. The topic is about rivets.

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The answer really depends where the cars were built. In Australia, prior to the establishment of the Ford factory in Geelong, the various local body builders painted the cars whatever they felt they could sell. in 1925, Duncan and Fraser were supplying bodies to Ford, and these were in a range of co...

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Layden, Unless they have been re-plated, they are not likely to be chromed. Chroming came in after this type of cover was largely discontinued.

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roger, I missed your last post. A late hogshead on an early trans will mean the brake band will hang off the back of the trans drum. This is not good. Not only will the different pedal spacing mean the band is clamped off centre, the band itself will be subject to real punishment. it will be hanging...

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It really doesn't matter if it is a low/high cowl USA or Canadian car. If you duplicate what is there, the problem is solved. Either do it yourself or remove the damaged bit and have it done for you.

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I have never seen the carrier riveted on a Canadian sourced chassis.
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That should not be a problem. 1917 still had the old type front engine mount, and the new low radiator. The later high radiator fits the same way. The only snag I can think of is the high radiator with deep apron that has the hole to screw to the engine mount will have no place to go. Allan from dow...

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Normally the bottom hole in the fender bracket is lined up with the hole in the front crossmember, that hole being in line with the radiator stud mounting hole in the top of the rail.
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Tim, the cup and the lug are there to stop the rim being turned/spun on the felloe on loose lug rims. Kelsey achieved the same thing by using a bridging lug on the rim which straddled the wheel bolt nearest the valve stem hole. Hap, I agree with your conclusion that the Hayes fixed lug rims need cle...

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I have never seen it on either an original or repro shelf. As for dip panting, there is already a large hole at the opposite end from which to suspend it. Scads of them could be slid onto a notched rod and the whole lot dipped all together.

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I'll second Frank's observations. there are enough differences between Z heads that each should be trial fitted before finally installing. I do this without a gasket first. Hand crank over to check for any knocks. Tap it back as far as it will go on the bolts and repeat. Tap it forward and repeat. O...

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Way to go Scott. Fit one of each and you will be at least half correct

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Hap, I think the photo shows a steel felloe rather than a rim. It shows a turned in outer edge and a wider turned out inner edge.
I can't help with the lettering, other than to say it's not a Kelsey felloe.

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Nicely done Dallas. I was interested in the way you blokes do things. I am not familiar with the roof trusses which do not have the flat tie across the base. Do they have the same load rating as the triangular trusses? I gather the corrugated iron is used to make the old timbers you had go a bit fur...

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Guy, the price seems good to me in our market. Perhaps the reluctance is due to the fact they are not a matched pair. Those lights come in a definite left and right as far as I know. When mounted, the hinged door is on the outside with the hinge at the front.
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Steve, your angle idea should work. I would do the clamping cold. Once you have it down straight, then some heat applied will relieve stresses in the bend and it should hold its shape. Heat applied before the straightening is likely to deform the metal at the bend. I agree that the bend is likely to...

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The lower right bag are Kelsey loose lugs with the flanged nuts. Check out the current prices for new items in Lang's catalog, and grab these quickly.

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I love the speedster. It almost looks new. Perhaps it was ordered in chassis only form, to have a custom commercial body built. Maybe he financed the fuel tank and bucket seats by flogging off the fender set. A really neat effort.

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The easy way to be sure you get what is needed is to remove what you have and have it duplicated, if not by yourself, by any local woodworking shop. It is not a particularly difficult project, and that way you know it will fit as the original does. The only snag may be machining timber to the old th...

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They look like Kevlar bands to me. I like to adjust them just enough so they work well. That way, maximum clearance is maintained between the band and drum when they are not in use, and there is no drag. The distance from floorboard measure may have had some relevance when the cars were new, but wit...

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Mark, my 1915 tourer had tack rails both sides if the panel in the front and rear seats. I can see no reason why the roadsters would be any different. they are certainly needed, to add stiffness to the panels. They need to be bent to conform with the panels. Cutting the curved corners from solid pla...

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That's a beauty Mark. That little dent will easily work out. Not often you see them that good.

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The posts don't look like T items.
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If you are looking for a difference to identify which is which, check out the combustion chambers. A low, [earlier] head will have pronounced rim around the spark plug hole, whereas the later high head appears as though they just drilled a hole and tapped it with thread. Hope this helps. Allan from ...

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Ryan, strength and rigidity it is, especially needed with a dropped axle. I found a period set-up for my speedster. It ran the standard top mount wishbone. The lower one was crafted from a second one. The front ends were cut off and the tubes simply flattened and drilled to fit the perch threads bel...

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Scott, you two windows in the rear curtain appear somewhat low. If the holes Larry mentioned are in the top windscreen, an inside accessory mirror may not line up for a tall driver. An accessory mirror would at least fill the holes.

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Scott, an external mirror would be an accessory, so the field is wide open. I would look for ant mirror head with a ball adjustment at the back. This could be attached near the top of the windscreen pillar on the LH side. It could be fitted with a fabricated bracket and arm. attached by the windscre...

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Larry, I reckon this one is as it was originally made. It has been made up from a TT frame, some 1915 parts, probably repop fenders and a whole heap of later than 1960's appliances in the workhouse. Nothing wrong with that, but it is hardly a ruined original.

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Steve, does that puller slide onto the axle via the small end near the kingpin and then engage on the rather narrow lip around the boss through which the perch is installed? Seems to me it would work well if the perch was not rusted tight, but would struggle if a heavy load was needed to shift the p...

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All that shiny aluminium, stainless steel and plastic plumbing may mean it is a modern creation which could meet present day standards for food preparation, allowing it to be used commercially.

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Luke, if you are on the mainland, Brian McConachie in Dunedin knows what he is doing with coils.

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To preserve the appearance of the grain in the timber, I do not use fillers. The bare timber is coated with a full coat of Penetrol which is a sealer/paint thinner/brushing extender. This soaks right into the grain without hiding it. Then I use a 'wash' of 50% black gloss enamel, 50% mineral turpent...

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This one falls between the early 3 long bolt type with bolt on steel mounts and later cast end ones where the frame mounting is solid, unlike the open triangle in this one. My guess is 13-16. Others may be able to pinpoint it closer.

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Chris. I have what you want. Just the tie rod end, the handbrake pawl and the steering bracket would not make a big parcel for postage. let me know if you have no luck locally.
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Because the spring shackle loop is offset to the thread, I can't see how a puller can work. A PUSHER would more likely be of use, working from the under side. There the load can be applied directly to the threaded end of the perch without any offset.

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Craig, if the sums work out, there is a need for the same process on later wishbones also. The market is wider than just the over axle type.
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Susanne, I do prefer tyres to describe that which fits around a wheel. Tires is what happens when a man, or woman, does some heavy work. Blockley products are made for an English company, and as such they are tyres.

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I can understand old car owners trying to bypass the complicated floats/levers/actions in a worn out and leak prone vacuum tank on cars which ran them. The pump can often be hidden inside the vacuum tank so nobody knows it's there. What I don't understand is why anybody believes gravity is ever goin...

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Craig, if you thread the ball onto the stem, an ideal pin to hold the ball in place would be a scotch screw. The thread in the ball will hold it in place, the scotch screw will stop it coming loose, and the whole procedure can be repeated at a later date if necessary. No welding/heat to be accounted...

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Craig's photo shows the early Y forging which has the tubes coming almost to the ball. Later over-the-axle style wishbones had the forged Y like tose used on the under axle wishbones. I have never been able to ascertain when this change was made.

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Dan, the new manifolds vary a bit as well. The thickness of the one piece copper glands allows them to be tweaked to accommodate these differences too.

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The first christian name of the last registered owner of my barn find 25 buckboard was Henrietta, so the name was obvious from the start. However, that owner had 3 christian names, the third of which was Florence. I have since learned that she was universally known as Flo. Darned if I am going to ca...

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Frank, I think the ball needs to be 1.25" diameter. That style would work, but I would drill the hole clear through and thread it all the way. Then the ball can be welded at the outer end to make it captive. Nice to know such things are generally available.

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I use a different approach when saving early pitman arms. They are finer forgings than the repros available from the vendors. I do not cut the old ball off. Rather, it is ground and filed to make a 1/2" round stub which is then threaded. The stub is still larger than the neck at the back of the ball...

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Jeorg, the part you show is not a typical example of nut/bolt sizes. 7/16" is the thread size but the brass hex on the grease fitting is smaller than the usual nut used on a 7/16" bolt. It is a thin walled pressing. As such, it should not be used as a locknut on your fan shaft.

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The binding shown is not what I know as hidem binding. The clue is in the name. Hidem binding has two rows of stitching either side of two raised ridges which carry a round plastic bead. These beads are lifted at installation, tacks driven between them, and then the relaxed beads hide the tacks. The...

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John, I'd add a third question. How do you tell? With our Mediterranean climate, It's never cold enough to give even a hint of a problem, and a good radiator will take care of even the hottest of days.

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Fellows, some food for thought. With a 5" drop at the front, the spindle height will be that far above its usual position. Any shock to the front end will have a far greater rotating force on the front axle than was ever the case on the standard configuration. While an under axle wishbone is usually...

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Dennis, there is nothing in the shade tree mechanic's handbook banning cutting a bit of brass shin stock to shape and sandwiching it between the copper and insert material at the back end of the gasket. If you check the back of the block and the head, you may find the need for a little packing to co...

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Might it work to take kinks out of external brake bands, especially after re-lining. If the flattened end is inserted between the drum and the lining, lettered side to the drum, and the bent stem worked to rotate the curved side, it would lever any kinks out of the bands.

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If using modern valves, keepers and collets, the scissor type lifters are a PITA. They cause the springs to cant sideways, angling the keeper and making it very difficult to place the collets. I have found a couple of different brands of old time lifters whose double jointed actions allow the forks ...

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There are negatives to them, which is most likely why the majority have gone missing over the years. If you want to remove a carburetor bowl to check feed blockages at the needle and seat, the RH one needs to come off. On our RHD cars, that same one has to come off to get the generator off the car, ...

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1.5" movement at the wheel rim is not worth chasing. If the car steers well as is, just drive it.

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The manifold rings in the Ford bags are supplied by Fuel Tank and Radiator Service in Queensland, Australia. The bag is misleading, stating 'Made in USA', unless you believe they are made in USA, shipped to Australia for distribution by FTRS, and then repackaged in USA. Do you guys have laws against...

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Rich, I am not alone in having that extra oval hole on a Reeder aluminium head welded up and the head resurfaced after it had warped and blown a head gasket. There being no corresponding passage in the block means the extra hole in the head is superfluous and in fact can cause problems. Allan from d...

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I have never seen a riveted on bracket on any Canadian sourced cars. As most Canadian sourced cars came with electrical equipment as soon as it was available, I presume the bolt on switch was fitted right from the start If it is important that this info is incorporated in the judging guidelines, jus...

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I have had one crash only, way back in the late 60's when returning from a long weekend interstate rally. Some young band members had driven overnight from Adelaide some 16 hours to Sydney to play in a gig Saturday night. Then they drove to Melbourne Sunday for another gig Sunday night. J On Monday ...

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The situation is similar to that found with manual gearboxes. The selection forks make contact with the selectors when making changes, but float otherwise. If drivers drive with their hand on the change lever, there is a load on the selector fork and they will wear. The load does not need to be grea...

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The A model equivalent has a round shaft which also goes clear through the handle. I found one like that with a Ford script on the shaft. I didn't know that when i bought it, as it had been used as a paint stirer. I still use modern plastic handled drivers with steel clear through the handle. These ...

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I was aware of this detail because I have replicated a few of the screwdrivers using blades from old wooden handled items. In my purchases I inadvertently purchased one blade like the one shown and didn't notice the difference until I stored it with others. My nephew has one of his workmen tun up th...

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I also prefer Timesert/Keyserts. They come in a range of outside diameters which means you can make repairs to oversized holes also. Each may be more expensive than a helicoil, but I can buy them individually, and they have standard threads on the outside, so I don't have to buy an installaton kit. ...

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David, all looks OK as far as correct parts go. Your 1 1/2" looks more like 1/2" and a sagging frame will do that. If your radiator shell is a nickel plated brass shell, it is imperative that the poor fit be corrected. The steel shell hood will wear through a brass shell if it is allowed to rub on i...

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Peter's mounting idea is great. When I mount number plates on panelwork, I always put a short length of rubber fuel hose on the bolts so the plate stands off the panel, allowing dust/water to pass through. On a T, I am reluctant to ever drill holes in a Ford running board, so I first mount a wooden ...

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That's the way to go Danny! It will also give you a guide to the way things were put together in those days. The challenge can be making a new piece to match an old one when you need a pair. Using second hand rusty material gives you a good start.

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If the hood overlaps the shell, and is away from the cowl at the back, the radiator is too high. If the side of the hood is about the right height at the back, I would be checking the radiator height. A simple check is to take a look at the top outlet. A tall radiator has a conical outlet to the pip...

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Robert, some. myself included, have the poles on the flywheel surface ground so that the variation you are finding is eliminated. Not entirely necessary but it does make setting the clearances easier. I'd say you have it about right.

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Unless I am mistaken, there is a fault in the reproduction shown. The flat point on it has been formed by dumping the blade with the square section on the flat so that the point is parallel with the faces on the square blade. I understand that on the originals, the flat tip is formed by dumping the ...

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Out of interest, on the bracket with the single mounting bolt to the frame, do US cars have a pressed bridging piece between the two bent ends to stop the tank being pinched as the brackets are tightened.

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Larry, you hit the nail on the head when you said, "if they wanted to". The same goes for the quality of the tyres and tubes they foist upon us. The one good thing from that is they have created a situation which has led to Blockley tyres seeking to fill the vacuum with something of merchantable qua...

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Frank, I am with you right down to 'ADD FILES'. When I hit that I get absolutely no response. Dead end. Nothing. Zilch. Previously I could go to the file on the phone, select file, upload and continue on. Now all that happens is this deadlock. Transferring photos from the phone to my laptop only add...

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I am working on an unrestored 1922 buckboard for a customer at the moment. My task is to get the body timberwork into sound condition so the doors can be shut, the windscreen properly fitted and rigid and the rest of it sound enough to leave alone. This will include leaving the seat cushion as is. T...

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Here's a challenge for you Steve. Take a series of screen shots to show me how to post photos from my new android phone. Other than that, a word picture from someone might help.
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Steve, there are the usual two threads. The small end is the universal valve cap size. The rest of the thread is the same all the way to the flange on the end. The third size you are seeing is the thread on the ferrule that takes the dust cover. I have no idea why the three washers are there. the br...

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Mario, I have yet to master posting photos from my new phone. I have posted some of the procedure previously, but have no idea just when, and have never used the search function. Perhaps someone can re-post them for you.

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Warwick, I remember one run I did when your dad was running a sedan. I warned him not to let Bernie McKegan pass him on the run. Naturally, he wanted to know why. The spare on dad's sedan was on a Chev rim, complete with the valve stem hole in the wrong place. Bernie's spare would fit. Allan from do...

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Frank, the manual transmissions on Mini's had a dry clutch. The 4 speed autos used the common sump. It was not a good idea, as the contaminated oils led to transmission failures, and the factory recommended drastically reduced oil change intervals to help alleviate this. Toyota tried to change histo...

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Dan, I have the separate nut and screw-on dust cap on the spare rim/tyre on Henrietta. The nut has nothing to tighten against on a bare stem,and when the dust cap won't let go on the nut, I do have to wind the whole lot off to check the tyre pressure, and on a spare that means even longer trip. That...

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Steve, you must have been posting when I was weighing. The difference I found was just 4g. Then I weighed two bridge washers. One with the pressed in sealing ridge was 10g. A second one having a separate brass sealing ring affixed was 14g, so there goes the difference. Even if the two heavier compon...

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Steve, my cure depends on the year of the car. On an alloy cover where the inboard end of the shaft is open, I fit a thin walled bronze bushing into the hogshead, leaving approx 1/2" hanging outside the cover. Into this protrusion I fit a cup type freeze plug to close the end of the bush to close it...

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Chris, there are mixed vintages there as far as I know. As James pointed out, the small open end wrench is like the one supplied wit A models. The tyre lever is not like any T model lever with which I am familiar. The open end band adjusting wrench, T1917, is the later more common style. That said, ...

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The shape of the grooves which go to the pillar would suggest they fit an oval shaped solid piece rather than a Ford style post. That said, they could easily be modified to fit a T.

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I have just come home from a 3 day tour run by our T club, and have to report some firsts for me, and a few notes of caution. A very nice 14 T tourer had a flat tyre just as we pulled up for a catered lunch stop. In all my years of model T motoring I have never fixed a flat tyre on the roadside on a...

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Arthur, what you have is most likely a battery box. Battery boxes need to be taller than toolboxes. Tool boxes are usually longer in proportion to their height. Yours would work as a toolbox on a roadster, but its height would most likely interfere with being able to open a door on other than a US b...

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Joerg, when the shaft is tightened and the fan will not turn, it means the bushing faces need to be machined down a little. The shaft is designed so that the step is to thread hard up against the arm. I effect, the arm is a nut. By backing off the shaft you have undone the 'nut' somewhat, and you ar...

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.02" is quite a bend, even without any twist. I would have like to have seen that shaft in the press when taking that much of a bend out, and having it remain straight. I am glad you had it tested afterwards. If you have concerns with .005" end float, the thrust face on the rear main cap can be buil...

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Steve, do you mean the pedal shafts on the transmission cover/hogshead?

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I use black RTV sealant on the felt over the hump at the rear of the block. I lay it on some cardboard and work a good amount of sealant into the felt. Then i turn it over and do the same on the other side. I end up with a felt reinforced silicone gasket. There is no need to trim the felt. When inst...

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Helicoils need some way to lock them in place. In an open hole like that, and on the bottom hole on the front axle which takes the spindle bolt, there is nothing to stop the helicoil from winding through. A Keysert is a better idea for this operation. It has locking tabs to hold it in place, and bei...

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That job may even be easier. If the valve spring is removed the valve can be pushed up out of the way. A Dremel cut-off disc could be used to make a screwdriver slot in the remainder of the broken bolt. A sacrificial small screwdriver could be bent at right angles to hold the broken bolt and the tap...

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Mark is most likely on the mark. Because the valve stem hole on a Chev rim is close to the nearest lug to it, that lug has to be slotted to allow the valve stem to be lowered into the felloe, the lug also lowering over the wheel bolt at the same time. On a Ford rim, the valve stem hole is further aw...

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Re fitting Ford hubs into Chev wheels, I recently did this on what I thought was a 23" Chev wheel. However, the hub I removed from the wheel was assembled differently to a Ford wheel. The outside flange was part of the hub casting and the inside was the removable plate, exactly the reverse of the Fo...

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Thanks Dick. I could remember details other than Steve's name and his business details. I missed getting my annual supply of hub bolts this year due to the cancellation of the Bendigo swapmeet. The bolts are also of excellent quality.

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Steve, that is the next best way to storing them, and clearly easier than fitting them into and mounting a tyre. I could not believe how well two red rubber Goodyear tubes came out of some old, mounted tyres. Keeping them out of the light also helps. My spares are stored in the cellar, which never v...

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