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Rich Eagle wrote: ↑
Mon May 16, 2022 11:46 am
I particularly like the logo on the old metal cans, I'm sad to see it in plastic bottles.
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Same here, I actually transfer it from the new plastic bottles into the old metal cans before use. Call me a traditional purist!

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I built up a magnet height tool to help me get all the heights right. I started with a piece of steel tubing and parted off a bit to act as a stop. IMG_20220515_183133240.jpg I then drilled 3 holes in it to weld it to the shaft. IMG_20220515_183402751.jpg I made the arm out of some scrap steel I had...

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Got myself a new rim to replace the horribly bent one currently on the rear driver's side... I blasted and painted this one so at some point I'll have to pull the tires off the front rims and blast/paint those so they match! Installing the tire was no problem with the rim spreader handy. IMG_2022050...

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I spent Sunday moving things around in the garage prepping for winter, got the T engine into the heated part and ready for more work. While I had the T pushed out of the garage I climbed into the engine bay and pulled out the last of the worn out wiring harness. They really did a number on the start...

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Mopar_man wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 10, 2021 10:27 pm
All of your posts look failure. Ha!! I've been doing the same thing. You are way ahead of me. You have an interior. I'm about to start mine soon and then start on the interior.

I've been watching your thread, the T is looking good!

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I got the fuel tank sealed tonight with POR15 tank sealer, interesting process as I've used the stuff before. I cleaned out the tank and gave it a Muriatic acid wash followed by a bunch of rinsing. IMG_20210829_171157989.jpg After the initial clean and rinse I went to the POR-15 metal prep step wher...

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I installed some "Radioactive" spark plugs to keep the mice out of the cylinders and poison/mutate them slowly while they make a hasty retreat from the power of the atom. The block will be scuffed and painted green when the rest of the engine is assembled and ready to install. IMG_20210904_165022520...

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I sneaked the head into my blasting cabinet a few days ago when doing some other blasting... IMG_20210901_171419092.jpg Followed by a cleaning and some high temp primer... IMG_20210904_144022426.jpg Followed by lightly oiling the combustion chambers to keep rust at bay until I get the rest of it tog...

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Scott C. wrote: ↑
Sun Aug 29, 2021 1:30 am
I like your 404! Is it a Swiss model? It's hard to tell without the top.

Yup, Swiss army. I picked it up during the height of the pandemic and have been sorting it since. Lots of issues just like my T, I'm a sucker for the hard luck cases I guess!

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All through the refurb I've been snagging good NOS repro parts, I've found quite a few goodies that I need. I installed the terminal block without any fuss. IMG_20210828_144605365.jpg I also got the lacing on the radiator shell in. IMG_20210828_150523390.jpg IMG_20210828_150943927.jpg I popped the s...

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Got some more time to monkey with the T this AM so I went at it with gusto... I got the hood shelves cleaned up (amazing how much dried grease and dirt is coagulated on the underside of the tins). I ordered a few things that showed up this week, including some new wood for the hood shelves to replac...

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Worked on the steering in the afternoon...

My third hand is a leftover vise, some tubing, and a 20's Buick flywheel for stability.

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You are doing a very good job. It should be printed in booklet form, or put on the web for reference to those future brave souls who take on a project this big. Norm Thank you for the kind comment! I look forward to driving her, it was nice to sit in the seat with a steering wheel in my hand OUTSID...

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Looks like you are making great progress. I don't know how I missed this thread. I saw your thread, looks like it's going well! You probably missed mine because I haven't posted on it since last year... I'll be honest, there is another vehicle in my life that I've been seeing. She's pretty needy to...

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Corrina hasn't been dusted or seen the sun since she was pushed into the garage a few years ago. Looking much better after a wipe down.

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It's on 4 wheels again!

Now I need to clean the garage!

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Busy day today... Repaired the cracked front cross member. Initially I just welded the cracks but this didn't work very well so I cut the bad part out and welded a new section in. IMG_20210605_131912968~2.jpg IMG_20210605_164858851.jpg IMG_20210605_172335741.jpg I removed the old paint from the fron...

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I likes what I see. Our T has a slime green engine also and we went back to the slime green using green rebar corrosion prevention paint. Paint yours any color you like. Must have been a popular color! I've seen some vintage house basements that are the same color... I'll most likely go with someth...

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Re: Fisk Air Flight Principle tires: The airplane in the logo looks a lot like the one flown by Charles Lindbergh in his historic 1927 transatlantic flight . From the New York Times, 1929: COMPANY PRODUCES NEW AUTO TIRE; Head of Fisk Company Describes It as "Air-Flight Principle." It does at that, ...

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I was able to get my axle kingpins fixed by a local T guy recently also. The front axle was also bent so he straightened it and it's back in business. IMG_20210530_174615028.jpg IMG_20210530_174541118.jpg I stripped the front of the frame today in preparation for cleaning and painting. Front cross m...

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Work on the steering column has continued at a slow pace, I finally finished filling in the pitting and got it in the paint booth tonight...

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Swapped out the old Fisk tires on the rear rims for some new rubber and moved them to the front wheels. The front rims are pretty bad so I'll need to replace them eventually... IMG_20210530_174431551.jpg The old Fisk tires are pretty neat, they have this cool logo... IMG_20210530_174342150.jpg IMG_2...

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Who would abandon a perfectly good T?!

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Interestingly, you are fixing a lot of things which could have been replaced with aftermarket parts being sold by the vendors. Norm26 Great looking touring! Lots of work to turn a pile of parts into a car, I admire your dedication! Thank you for the kind words! Over the years restoring different ca...

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I had some time today and cleaned and painted the spindles as well as pressed in the new bushings. I'll take them to the machine shop soon for reaming to the spindles along with the head for a shave and the flywheel when its complete for balancing. I spent the afternoon cleaning the old magnets for ...

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I bought John Mays' trailer about a month ago and carved out a patch of forest to build a shed for it. It's an aluminum car-hauler with a wind-dam....perfect for a Model T. The fenders are removable, it has a winch, plus retractable d-hooks built into the floor and four really nifty heavy-duty tie ...

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Perhaps a 3rd option? You didn't say what your budget was but there are some nice looking tourings out there that don't need to be revived from long tern storage... Perhaps use the funds towards one of those? Might be worth looking around to see what is out there... no offense to your relative, it n...

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I live in town and go ever since I found out about it. I usually find a few T things and era related goodies. Last year I saw some rims, a brass radiator, and one seller specifically selling T stuff, just one small table. Its a good little swap meet for car stuff and related. I always find something...

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Really enjoying your posts! Downtown Conroe looks like my kind of place

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My my! Have a busy summer and when I come back it's running and driving around! Great work, loved the videos!

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Cool! So close to running!!!

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I don't know why they call those bushings brass, because they're bronze. I use them instead of steel on my 1915 runabout and my 1923 touring. For the touring I drill oil holes. I bought them by size from a bearing company online. Calling them brass seemed odd to me too... Thanks for the help guys!

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I did some searching but didn't get an answer so I'm wondering if I can use the 09-13 brass shackle bushings the vendors sell instead of the steel ones marketed for the later cars? Aside form drilling a hole or the oiler are they the same size as the steel ones?

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Slow going but I am working on the front springs... House remodel and the falcon getting in the way, looking forward to getting lots done on the 4th holiday in a few weeks! I did get the front end pulled apart for a total rebuild, it needs it!

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Ed Baudoux wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:53 pm
Pulled it out of the trailer and snapped some fresh pictures for the Greenfield Village Old Car Festival registration.

Looking good!

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Looks like a truckload of fun!

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I recently purchased a carburetor from "Jay In Northern California"... Great packing, fast shipping, a real stand up guy I'd do business with again in a heartbeat.

Jay is a credit to the hobby, we're lucky to have him!

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I got mine and it looks great! Thanks for investing the time, $$$, and energy into the project.

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I use ALOT of Rustoleum for stuff in my shop and if I can't hit the primer with a top coat within an hour I wait a few days. Same goes for coats of paint over paint... I get wrinkles if I wait too long (over an hour or so) or not long enough (less than a few days). Throw in humidity and temperature ...

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And...I'll say it again...I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE for the hideous paint or the copious slathering of the blue RTV on the inspection cover. This temp engine came that way in the parts chassis from the previous owner. Same guy must have been through my T engine also... they loved the blue stuff. If a li...

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Don If you don't have a copy of the MTFCA engine book, I have one spare left i'll send you for free...

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Also when working with linseed oil, do not pile up used rags or put them in a bucket. They are easily combustible. I've always wondered about why that is... Is it the drying process that creates enough heat to combust? Makes me wonder why everything that is coated in linseed oil doesn't burst into ...

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I've used it on gunstocks and an old Wurlitzer crate I wanted to preserve, it definitely gives the wood some depth and darkens it up some. I had the best results wiping some on, letting it sit 5 minutes and then wiping the excess off. I'd let it dry 24 hours and then repeat until I built up the fini...

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Whoever said "nothing good happens after midnight" is wrong... Just finished putting new gear pins in my flywheel and it couldn't have gone better! They had some wear on them and we're pretty out of round so after consideration I decided to replace them and leave the bushings in the triple gears alo...

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Looking good, not even my car and I'm getting excited for the maiden voyage!

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Nice work. It is satisfying when you can undo a cobbled together repair that didn't really work and replace it with a solid original part. Thanks! My favorite part of restoration is putting things right : Now I'm not sure if that's the correct switch for a '26 but I figured being able to take it ap...

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Hello!

Welcome, I picked up a '26 touring about the same time you did and have been working on it also...

I can't help with your issue but wanted to say "welcome"! There are lots of knowledgeable folks here and I'm sure you'll get an answer directly.

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Had some time today to work on the T so I tackled the starter switch. The one in the car was modified to make a new switch fit the old base. I picked up an original to replace it. After disassembly I discovered the tabs on the sheet metal shaft were missing or bent so I bumped them back down and tac...

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Too cool!

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Oooooooohhhhhhh......that is some serious eye candy right there. I'm jealous. Its going to be great to get it all together, I wish I was as far along on mine as you are on yours... I'm hoping for a late summer fire up, like you I have a lot of other work going on so the T doesn't get me much right ...

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Looking great! I'll bet you're excited to fire it up

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Big day today... paid a visit to Joe B to pick up a rebuilt short block and check out my transmission issues. I can't speak highly enough of Joe, first class fella. He was able to get me a good brake drum and output shaft as well as put new bushings in and allowed me to ream them on his KW tool. He ...

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Your beautiful pictures are reminding of this 1906 Maxwell. I'm sorry my 40 year old photos aren't near as good. Rs06Max.jpg It was offered for sale for $6,000 about 1979. I could not buy it but sure thought about what a great car it was. I watched it be restored and change hands several times. A f...

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Cleaned up my pan to prep for straightening...

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Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:14 pm
The Keller is less sophisticated than the Marvel. The blade rests on the work in both directions.

Out of curiosity Steve, how many teeth per inch on the blade you're running?...

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kelly mt wrote: ↑
Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:08 pm
My old Marvel #2 saw lifts the blade on the forward stroke.

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So does my Marvel 9A.

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My Marvel 9A cuts on the pull, teeth on the blade face towards the back of the saw. The manual states this is correct for that saw.

These are neat tools, fun to watch!

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Anybody try the new "dustless blasting" on a Model T? Something about C02 pellets that evaporate or something?

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My kinda basement! I think my wife is glad my shop is an outbuilding... don't think she's fond of the smells and noises that come out of the garage during peak working hours, let alone have it under the house

Great work on the body, keep it up!

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16 days till spring...14 degrees here this morning !! Maybe by June it will warm up !! :( I know the feeling... I'm a bit further north, winter starts November first and lasts until we get 2 weeks of spring that starts mid May. June 1st through September the thermostat is stuck on hot/humid but Oct...

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I'll play... I love my old Monkey Wards wood heater.

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I'm a VCCA member, nice group of people. 29-31 are very similar body stye wise... Prices on these are all over the map. I just sold a '29 4 door for $8k a few months ago, it was an older restoration in need of tires and a front end rebuild. There are a few that have been listed locally for up to $13...

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I'm just happy to have 4 matching tires now

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Not a very good afternoon on the T... Lots of problems in the transmission that need attention, it's a fixable though and this is a great time of year up north to work on stuff! I like to end the week on a high note so I put together this radiator cap, I will eventually plate the brass but that's do...

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I got the transmission apart today and measured the triple gear pins to see how much out of round they are... I got .0021" difference measured 90 degrees apart. I want to make sure I do this right while it's apart. The bushings in the are likely worn also as I can rock the gears side to side on the ...

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Good news and bad news today... The good news is the Joe Bell is going to rebuild a short block for me as he happened to have a good block in his possession, my block will be religated reserve status. The bad news is my transmission seems to have had a disaster in it's life and some shoddy repair wo...

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Why did you take it down? Was the clutch mis-operating? If it was working OK you could just put it back together and leave it as is. If it was not working well, you must then find out why. normally the clutch disk which fits the inside of the brake drum is toward that plate and the plate turns with...

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Dang, this car is testing me!

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I see no damage inside... Someone has been in this transmission before me so it's possible they removed the other damaged parts. I don't find any broken bits or pieces laying loose.

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I've got a feeling my clutch part is shot... Can an experienced eye confirm?

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I'd like to hear some input on the Chaffin's 25-27 Improved .250 lift cam... I don't want to loose any low end in my '26 touring.

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George:

Just plain old stock 1926 wood wheels with split rims. All the other cars with split rims I've had did not use rim strips so I just wanted to be sure it was the same for a T.

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Not a clue... I do know that this car has been in the hands of a not so talented restorer so I wouldn't use it as a reference for anything, lol.

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Ok folks, thanks!

I'll pick up some rubber stemmed tubes and call it good.

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The reason your rear view mirror doesn't look right, is because it isn't right! The one you show is for a closed car. The factory brackets for the tourings and roadsters wrap over the top of the windshield frame, and were originally held on with two horn button bracket screws. I figured that, good ...

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I want to grab my tubes and flaps before the price increase but I want to make sure I get this right... I bought a set of 4.40/4.50-21 tires over Christmas with the free shipping deal but I still need the tubes and flaps. I don't need rim strips for a split rim since there are no spokes poking throu...

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I would assume flaps are going up too... Can't see why they'd raise prices on all the other rubber stuff and not those. Ordering this week, thanks for the heads up!

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Uh oh.... we got a crack. Not unexpected but not welcome either.

I'm inquiring about metal stitching in MA and may have a lead on a machined block another hobbyist did not complete... working the options!

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Those straps look they they've been there since day one... nice job. I like the look of running with the hood sides removed

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Got the NOS quadrant installed and the rebuilt levers all riveted in place... no more slop!

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I got the NOS quadrant installed today. Earlier I had welded up the bottoms of the levers and reshaped them as they were severely worn. What a difference, positive clicks and no slop in the head of the steering column. Steering should be much improved.

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I also got the engine stripped down to the block and wire brushed the top, plus all the spot prone to cracking and couldn't find any looking at it from inches away. The block had all two piece valves... They won't be going back in.

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I got the steering shaft mount and ruckstell shifter back from the machinist today and they are great, nice and tight, gone is the major slop.

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rustyfords wrote: ↑
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:00 pm
I think I'll cheat and at least take it around the block a couple times once it's running...before I tear into the front axle.

Nothing brews even more motivation like a short spin around the block!

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Looking good!

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Sadly, for every Model T that is brought back to life, there is another one slowly rotting away in someone's garage or shed. You know, it was grand dad's pride and joy, he restored it back in the 50's, 60's, or 70's. It has 4 flat tires, and hasn't seen the light of day in 40 years and is piled hig...

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Its from WWII, Soldier is wearing WWII pattern dress. WWI pattern British dress was much different than the later issue type.

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Ed... 3 doors west, must be talking about Dave and his wife? It is a small world! The shop was one of the main reasons I bought the place, I had outgrown my little 1 car garage in Bay City and a 2 car garage with shop was like moving into a hanger. Mark has shown me pictures of the shop "back in the...

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The weather finally got into the 30's, up from below zero so I got a chance to pull the engine and tear it down into major components this afternoon... The whole thing needs a rebuild so that's where it's headed...

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I gutted it!

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Great work! Keep it up!

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Started my Farmall F-20 in gear with the crank once by accident.... almost ran me over, then ran into the house hitting the power line under the meter causing a shower of sparks and some surprise for my wife and neighbor who were inside on the other side of that very wall. Oops! Had to have the line...

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Funny you should mention the C4 issues... I just put it in Saturday and had no issues, no mods needed. Must be the early C4's with the small bell housing are just the right size. I did have to use a different bolt in crossmember... Stock one won't work. Now I've got space to pull the T engine out!

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The local Model A guys have a one day swap meet at a local dealership this time of year... Found some good deals for my '26. I saw a brass era radiator as well as a few other T parts. Engine comes out this week for teardown. I've got some of my steering and ruckstell parts at a machinists now and wi...

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Picked up this plate for mounting on the rear tire carrier...

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Beautiful work Adam.

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Dan, what brand of adjustable reamer are you using there?

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I love this sort of stuff, keep it coming!

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I snagged this accessory taillight for the back. Since we can use YOM plates here in MI I have been on the lookout, finally found a decent pair... '26 plates are hard to find.

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Working on removing the engine to go through it so I've got the floor boards and front end off for access. Somebody hacked up the dash switch assembly so I pulled that as well, maybe I'll fab up something custom that looks period...

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