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jivers wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:03 pm
Let me know if you want a pic file.

Sure. Great looking car.

Looks good jivers. Let me know more.

I have also always been able to start the car with the reproduction switch using a screw driver only, any screw driver. Is that normal?

I swear that I saw Steve Jelf in a Taco Bell commercial that was on during the last game of the World Series. Could I be mistaken? -- IV

Thanks, yes since I received the reproduction key switch unit, the key easily falls out of the switch so I have to turn it then put it in my pocket while under way or else it will fall out. Is that normal? -- IV

Hi, I have a about 2 years old reproduction ignition switch. The black painted light switch handle and part that covers the outside of the key switch came off. Now the lights are on all the time. Is there a way to fix this? I have already sent off my original key switch to get rebuilt by Ben Martin ...

'a little *bit of band fuzz so I put it *back together'

Hi all, I've had my T for about 3 years now, in all that time magneto has worked perfectly. Car ran better on magneto. I recently changed the transmission bands to Kevlar. The magneto has become unstable. Several times for band fuzz on the contact. Today no magneto again. As before, I checked it thi...

See picture from above 22 touring rear door closed at the latch. What should the gap be on a door? Mine seems to be excessive. Why would it be wide like that?

See picture below outside facing in, is the big notch in the rear door jamb of a 22 touring body normal?

John I am no expert having only seriously been in my transmission once for the first time this month. However, I would suspect that it would be the bands as the issue and not the clutch or at least I would suspect the bands first. First step would be to open the inspection hatch and take a look. Sen...

Can you tell from these photos?

Confirm on machine shop. Sounds like the hogshead a gotta come off again. Sigh. I am going to get pretty good at taking hogsheads on and off. -- IV

Hi, I put a new Clevis in after changing the bands, pivots, supports, and slow speed notch on the transmission. I've read a few guides on how to adjust the Clevis which is '1/16th short or play'. Problem: my new Clevis which is the same dimension as the old one isn't short enough by just a little bi...

Nova Scotia Jeff: will Quick Poly work? I have that. Kansas Jeff: Opened up the magneto post for the 3rd time, it was loaded with fuzz again, cleaned it again and magneto works again. If anything the low speed band is loose I can press it nearly to the floor. It didn't creep forward so much with the...

Correction: "replaced my emergency brake shoes with two piece ones." should be replaced my two piece shoes with 1 piece shoes.

Had a great time at this years Texas T Party, this year in Brenham, Texas and environs. One hundred four model T's came out, over 200 people. Here is my personal account for Friday/Saturday. These are great because they pushed me to finish things undone on Shirley my 1922ish parts salad car. See my ...

I tested it after tightening up the yoke so it had give in the clutch lever. Thankfully high-gear came back. However, when my foot goes off the slow speed pedal it doesn't fully engage high gear unless I pull the pedal back towards me with my foot slightly. It seems like I need to lengthen the yoke ...

I found this article: https://modeltfordfix.com/adjusting-the-model-t-ford-transmission-and-clutch/ I put in a new slow speed connection yoke since my old one was worn out. Per the article it has to have 1/16th play. I shortened it and will retry tomorrow. I hope I don't have to take the whole thing...

Possibly why my frame was bent. What is Lang's part number for it and more or less where does it go?

Hi,

I changed out the bands for Kevlar and replaced the cams and slow speed notch with new ones. I had to take the hogshead off. The car moves in 1st gear but I've somehow lost high gear. What could be wrong?

-- IV

Probably isn't a wood block there. What is the wood block for? -- IV

Dan that is an outstanding solution that I went ahead and ordered a new shaft hopefully arriving tomorrow. However, since I am going to Texas T Party Friday I cheated and took my hogshead to a machine shop. Forgive my weakness. They drilled out the mess I had made, filled in the oversize hole with w...

I am going to try to drill the current one out with putting in a new pedal shaft as plan B. Drilling this out is slow. I am using a Dewalt titanium metal bit but it takes a very long time to get anywhere. Is there a secret to drilling these out quicker or quickly?

-- IV

Loose magneto wire or contact?

Still wondering why one hole of the notch is smaller than the other and the rivet does not go through?

Thanks Dan, I think you are right. This is a mess and a new shaft and new pedal pin (I went ahead and bought 4 for 25 cents each) are $21 delivered. I have the clutch pedal support and had planned to change that out too including doing the o-ring trick for oil leaks. It is going to be a photo finish...

Drilled the notch a bunch on both sides with a drill press. I have not hit the shaft yet. I have it on an anvil now so hopefully it won't get damaged. Hitting it with a 5 lb sledge and a punch. Tried hammer and punch on both sides. Not moving at all. What else can I try?

Thanks Scott, I read your explanation but am still not sure what the smaller rivet hole in the new notch is for.

Hogshead is off! I was able to rotate the magneto and retrieve the errant nut and washer. Now I am attempting to replace the notch and pedal support. Why are the new notch rivet holes different sizes and the rivet only fits through one side and does not go through the other side? I cut the head off ...

I tried the U wire method. That pushed the nut up somewhere. I tried my borescope to try and find it. Couldn't so the hogshead has to come off!

-- IV

So I had my new kevlar bands on and was attempting to put on the last washer and nut on the last band when the inevitable dropped the washer and nut into the nether regions. But have no fear! I had tied a thread to it for just this sort of problem and proceeded to try to fish it out. To no avail! It...

*impossible to do with the hogshead **on**.

I think everything can be done for the slow speed notch and clutch support without taking the hogshead off EXCEPT peening the bottom notch rivet. That looks impossible to do with the hogshead off. I tried my new notch and clutch support without installing and they are super tight compared to my appa...

What can be done about worn pedals? I am changing the cams and supports, doing the o-ring trick but my pedals at the cams are worn. Can the clutch pedal notch and support be changed without taking the hogshead off? I am re-starting from this thread which has become too long: https://www.mtfca.com/ph...

The surgery has begun! I have all the bands out and the old cotton removed, the Kevlar bands are going on now. Question 1: With the hogshead on and the bands removed, what tool is used to hold the clutch pedal support bolt head on the inside? This is so I can take the nut off on the outside and repl...

This differential did not leak for about 2 years so is it normal for them to start leaking? -- IV

Hi, My 12 rivet differential leaks slowly at the two lower most bolts. A few drops a week. See picture. The fluid level was down as expected when I opened the filler bolt so it isn't communicating with the engine oil. The fill hole does not appear to be leaking. How much torque should the bolts be? ...

Hey Steve, best wishes sounds like quite an adventure, wish I was there. When I received my T it had the same homemade perch to wishbone clamp using pushrod end caps on one end to complete the clamp. -- IV

Hi Rusty, Just did the exercise of installing the top on a 1922 body, described here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3803

The biggest thing is making heads or tails out of all the pieces then the anxiety of cutting the thing up. After you've done it once it is no big deal.

-- IV

I rather liked the Off Topics interspersed with the General Discussion Forum. Separate Off Topics forum is like banishing the fun fellow party goers to go somewhere else for being fun or the old man saying you kids get off of my lawn! So now the General Discussion Forum is all-fiber cereal only and ...

Thanks, forecast is mid-90's through labor day so I may get a chance to re-stretch it.

Just finished installing a Classtique. Went well. Here is the description: https://mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3803 Had to think about it and go slowly. The 2-3 weekends estimate for completion was about how long it took although I had 2 month interruptions. Not particularly difficult but i...

More pictures:

It is done! Royce Patterson's article was very helpful: https://modeltfordfix.com/installing-a- ... r-model-t/

Here are some pictures of the final results: 1) Top pad stapled down. 2) Again, 3) Weather flap side. 4) Back curtain on. 5) Top deck on.

We went to church and the developed chicks were still in their nest. We came home and the nest was empty.

Developing:

Progress, I have a side pad up. Used the Royce Peterson method of gluing down the burlap then nail it up.

Thanks, since the kit did not come with that then I think I will get a small piece of leftover top strap cloth, pass it through the ring and nail 'er down.

This old thread http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/229470.html has multiple pictures of the rear strap mount. None of them are like a 1922 which has the bow saddle rods straight out to the sides. The strap isn't long enough in any case to reach the rods. How are they supposed to go on? I wo...

Do I really have to cut or drill the rivet out of the lower D ring off the rear curtain strap and nail it to the tack strip? Is there another way to mount it without taking the D ring off for a 1922 touring 2 man top?

Here we are an article by Royce Peterson with lots of pictures that explains nearly all.

https://modeltfordfix.com/installing-a- ... r-model-t/

It took me awhile to get the orientation of the back parts. 1) So the Common Sense's go in the rear tack rail and I tack all of this to the top? 2) Why did they leave off the 2 male Common Sense's on the straight edge of the side curtains? 3) I assume the rear window curtain goes inside the side cur...

I found a video that showed how to drill the rivets out. But the question remains should I?

Pictured are the rear curtain straps, leather. So I take the d loop off and nail it on to the bow and tack strip through the leather? I will have to remove the loop rivets to get enough length to reach the bow and the tack strip right? How do you remove the rivets without damaging the leather? After...

Because it only lays over the windshield and is held in place by the front windshield straps, the top straps that run across the bows from the rear bow and the covering. How do you know where to drill through for the rivets to place the footman loops for the front bow straps? How do you know at wha...

Classtique has the front bow detail for a 1922 touring here: https://youtu.be/QmitQsKBRmc

Many thanks, that clarifies a lot. So the front bow details: Classtique shipped me what looks like a front flap but yours doesn't have a front flap. I don't know what to do. -- IV

I see these rivets to mount the hardware onto the top bows. Should I use them versus screws? I see the rivet tool for a air hammer but how do they actually work with the air hammer tool? https://www.modeltford.com/item/3897XT.aspx

Yes they are blue. Mother looks to me to be a generic sized bird. I am not an ornithologist obviously.

Because it only lays over the windshield and is held in place by the front windshield straps, the top straps that run across the bows from the rear bow and the covering. I see from your picture that the 2 man top front bow top details are very different than the Classtique video which is for a 1 ma...

Off topic, interesting picture I just took of a birds nest with eggs in my front yard.

Straight:

Overall picture so far:

Further along. The Classtique video is for a 1 man top. I have a 2 man top so my front rain flap is different than in the video. I understand that the sewn part is what goes on the window hanging down but I do not know otherwise how it goes onto the front bow? It is 60 inches so I presume that it go...

Skunked in Kerrville at the very last minute by another buyer. Still looking.

Skunked! Went to pick it up. I had trailer arranged. Seller new I was coming. I called 2 hours away to be informed that it was sold before I could close the deal. Went to LBJ library in Austin as a consolation to see the LBJ Model T only to be informed that it is no longer on display. Gonna need the...

Painted the bows. I wasn't too excited about needle and thread sewing the bow wrap at the metal parts like in the Classtique video. I asked my 82 year old Mother for advice as she observed me struggle with needle and thread and she said to just use Fabric glue. I asked her if that was cheating. She ...

Per this old MTFCA thread the answer is no: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/30178.html

I have a 2015 Toyota Sienna which has 3500 pounds of towing capacity. U-haul will rent me a 2 wheel tow dolly to tow a Model T they will not rent me a car trailer due to 5000 lb capacity hitch system requirement. Can I safely tow it this way? I have read in the past ways to safely do this including ...

Hi, I have a spare tire carrier that mounts on the back but the license plate is in the way of one side of the mount. What is normally done in this situation to make it work? See the 2 mount holes on the right circled in red on the cross bar, there are 2 other mount holes on the left cross bar behin...

Okay all 4 mounts are on. Just like you said I found the 2 holes and tilted them 15 degrees then notched the arm rest to fit. I buzzed off the top bow surface rust and primered them with black Rustoleum Automotive Rust Reformer. I did a tire carrier while I was at the bows. I will shoot them gloss b...

Surprise! See the pictures below I found the old rear seat body mounts still in place with the tops cut off. These T's are fun to work on when you find weird things like that. No such luck with the front seat ones. Where do I place the front seat ones? There are no marks. I assume it is carriage bol...

What if I don't sew?

Hello all, I am finally getting to putting in 1922-23 two man top on Shirley. According to the Classtique video https://youtu.be/h6Y8gKaKIrs you stick the bow wrap on with Pro Stick then staple it on with an air stapler/brad nailer. What size staple is used and what air stapler model will work? -- IV

Ordered, will give them a try upon arrival.

What are the proper fasteners for a 1922-23 two man top body irons front and back? Are they carriage bolts? If so what size? I see these:

https://www.modeltford.com/item/3603S.aspx

Are they the ones?

-- IV

This will be a restore so open trailer is fine.

Hi, The poem 'I Beheld That Tin T' containing such lines as: 'For I have squeezed the bearing grease zip-loc bag of iniquity' has now been officially published in a book of poetry, River and Mountain: Collected Poems of Ignacio Valdes. http://www.lulu.com/shop/ignacio-valdes/river-and-mountain-colle...

Trying for a Speedster. Getting to stage 3 local metastasis of the disease.

Hi, anyone know a car hauler to get a T from Kerrville, Texas to Houston, Texas? The disease is progressing. Thanks!

Hi all, my 1924 touring emergency brake is weak. If I am on a driveway with a gentle slope it won't hold the car. Testing it while under way does not result in both rear tires skidding. It is only a long tepid slow down. As far as I can tell everything is in order. What can I do to make it more effe...

Title says it, looking for a Speedster. Unfortunately don't have the time to build one. Thanks for looking!

So Steve tell us the story of your 'new' Touring.

Balto would absolutely drive my touring if he could.

Do a credit card balance transfer using those checks that come in the mail. The APR is often zero. Don't use the card after that and don't miss a payment or the interest rate will zoom up high.

I like it Steve, but with bumps and travel might the handle work its way down and shut the gas off? Needs some sort of say zip tie loop to go around the end of the handle and keep it from sagging down and thus closing the gas?

Wow, the Montana 500 results are amazing! 54 mph average speeds. Apparently 50 mph average has been going on since the 1960's. It seems as though there are stalwarts that show up year after year to compete. Remarkable.

Hey I am an official MTFCA member now! I received my first magazine which had an intriguing first of a series of articles on going 50 mph with your T. Shirley my 1924 parts salad was easily and unusually hitting 34 mph yesterday probably because the gas tank was low. I look forward to the next artic...

With lubrication I am hoping to squeeze a complete speedster inside...

How much?

Hi, Next Thursday I will be going Houston to Chicksha through Dallas in a Toyota Sienna mini-van mostly empty. If you want me to take your stuff to Chicksha let me know soon. I have no idea what I am going to bring back.

-- IV

Hi Steve, We ended up doing about 26 rims. I forgot to go back and pick up 4 rims I had paid for at Chicksha last year, waa, waa, waah. So $300 + $75 for sandblasting, it ended up being about $15 each. Had capacity for about 60 which would theoretically be $6.25 each. Hope to see you at Chicksha fri...

Hi, Next Thursday I will be going Houston to Chicksha through Dallas in a Toyota Sienna mini-van mostly empty. If you want me to take stuff to Chicksha let me know soon. I have no idea what I am going to bring back.

-- IV

Amazing! How did you figure it out?

My enterprising young son took a metal detector to the front yard and dug up this. What might it be or was? It says Ford on one side, Resetter on the other side.

Dan that last picture is just amazing how perfect it looks. I cannot imagine what it takes to get them to look that good.

I see that Runabouts can be converted back and forth to a light truck bed by changing out the turtle deck so sounds like Runabout it is.

Frame is not a TT it is a regular frame. Will a C or box cab/express or flat bed fit?

The reason to make the rolling chassis into a model t truck are sentimental, fun, and to advertise a business. There is a in project in pieces on the classified's and I plan to go to Chicksha so here we go...

How do I tell if a chassis is a TT? Probably a factory box cab with express bed.

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