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For cryn’ out loud guy’s he’s saying each coil buzzes in turn as he cranks the motor over. Why are some of you telling him to pull more stuff apart? Didn’t he say he wasn’t highly versed mechanically? If that’s what happening his no start doesn’t involve the ignition system at all. Please don’t seco...

Please Keep It Simple. No need to start tearing things apart. Use what I posted. Remove nothing. Check/eliminate a lot of stuff without "wrenching".

If 1 coil is buzzing there's power going to the coil box so that's #1. Turn the key on to bat. The wiring harness from the timer goes to terminals on the coil box. Ground each one one at a time. If the coils are OK & the box internal wiring is OK each coil should buzz as you ground it's terminal. If...

Sorry I can't offer much beyond I don't think it's the gasket. As long as you're not re-using the same one over & over that is. I also believe that on a properly installed / torqued head a 15 second run showing liquid out the bolt holes also indicates ( to me ) that it's not the gasket. How does the...

I truly believe that this will happen in the future. I have no doubts about it at all. The only place I can break (or even meet) the posted speed limit is in the development I live in. 25 MPH. It is also the only place I will take anyone for a ride as the roads are usually totally devoid of traffic ...

What was that business a few years back concerning the type of tube used in the whites causing them to turn? Seemed pretty conclusive.

What I’ve always heard and done is to install the head torque it run it to operating temperature then let it cool overnight and retorque. Period. Retorquing when hot will allow the metal to shrink when cold leading to guess what.

Part #'s ? Or who has them?

Just came into a nice set of coils from a local flea market yesterday. Going to get them into shape but it's been a while since I've done any and I need to know what's the latest on the condensers being sold & any problems with new point sets.

It's resto-mods these days. Face it. An antique body with all the trimmings. Pretty persuasive don't you think? I don't feel that the T lends itself to this kind of thing and will remain in the horseless carriage area of collector vehicles simply because it is what it is.

I vish I vas as schmart 20 years ago as I dink I yam today.

I too thought about this when I first came across it in a parts catalog years ago. Like many here the extra “bits” turned me off.

The big box stores sell an extremely effective wood boring insect spray. You can buy the mix type or right out of the bottle kind. No smell or stains. I’ve used it for years and highly recommend it.

You've got a real problem there Tyler. Riding the kid around out of a safety seat might be illegal. That's #1. #2 is can you even properly anchor a safety seat in a T? #3 is even if you could anchor it would that be safe in itself as the car has no truly safe means of operating it especially in toda...

What I'd suggest to you is first off is "run what you brung". That is get to know the car for what it is and what modifications (if any) have been done to it. Sounds like it has a 6 vt. system in it now. If that's so it's a perfectly relyable set up. All you have to do is learn how it works and ask ...

That's awfully damn quick for points to burn up. I think all 3 things mentioned above might be in play: No resistor + condenser and coil aren't a set and they need to be.

Is it running OK? Not overheating or any thing like that? Then leave it the heck alone. You're spending $ for no reason at all and you might be looking to spend a lot more if the pump is keeping a tired radiator at bay. I've had 2 T's with pumps and kept them both for exactly the reason stated above...

Nope. Not signing up for that again.

I'll tell you this: I sure as heck want to know more about this. I dumped FB quite a while ago so that avenue is out for me but I'm very interested as I consider having to send a block out for babbeting as a major expense and takes engine rebuilding out of my garage & my hands.

Bmetti has it right. A scam e-mail was opened and the cat's out of the bag. That's one. Two is that amount of $ in there. Luckily for me I was warned about these e-mails and it's very much like the phone scam thats from "the IRS". very convincing if you're not on to it.

Wet/dry compression test will reveal all. With 0 guessing.

Here's a "quickie" that might do the trick as a temp fix. Clean the hogshead area around the shaft really good. A carb cleaner type spray works great for this. Apply a thin film of oil to the shaft. Don't get any on the hogs head. Use a good grade silicone and apply it to the hogshead & the shaft. I...

Lets keep in mind you brought up l**r and rube no one else.

Thank You Mr. Whiteman for a very conscise posting about the snake oil referred to as sea foam. This stuff is garbage. The only thing it cleans out is that piece of dead cow in your rear pocket But folks will defend spending their hard earned $ simply because they spent it. Not one single solitary i...

Do this carefully: Have someone with you. Preferrably someone with a bit of car knowledge. Take the floor boards out drive it and listen. You just might nail it that way.

Apparently the only real way to know is pulling it apart. You can jack up the rear and check on the in/out play of the wheel and perhaps getting a look at the rear end fluid but re-read line one.

Many of you might recall the Model Garage series featuring Gus Wilson as the lead mechanic. I've read many many of the stories. The series started way back when ( 20's ?) as How To or DIY articles for Popular Mechanic readers with Gus appearing much later. Don't ask me to pin it down but there was a...

I think I've seen a T pic posted on here some years back that had AC. Have no idea what the post was about or how to find it but it's been done,

Takes a big man to admit the water is getting a bit deep. I believe Steve that you've made the right decision. Good Luck.

Wow. 80 thou. over. Could that be part of the problem?

Geez it gets deeper and deeper.

The compression would not have gone up with the addition of oil to the cylinders if the rings were good. It's not rocket science. It's n.g. rings. The valve seating is nothing to scream about either BUT re-read line one of this post.

Compression test. Conpression test. Wet & dry. Read Jelf's "Ignorance" post. Once more ; Compression test.

So the majority of you have finally settled on rings? Good O. It's the correct answer.

I'm with Scot. Get rid of it properly. No telling what it actually is.

I was thinkng coffee grinds but that would cause too many questions to be asked. MMO sounds about right. Finally something it's good for.

I don't know how far you want to go with this and I don't think it was the main topic of the post some years back on the Forum but some one set up a hydraulic shoe system on a T. Home made if I recall. It used a foreign car drum system with the drum being about the same size as a T rear drum. It was...

The original emergency brake set up has, as you know, a stationary pivot point and a cam at the other. Unless the shoes are well worn in and properly adjusted you really don't get a hell of a lot of drum/shoe contact. Even then it isn't much because the pivot end is really kind of stationary so the ...

I'd like to know, (perhaps I missed it), what caused the ring replacement in the first place and how did you arrive at the idea it needed them?

And that my friends is what solid diagnosing is all about. Don't jump in and tear it up. Ask questions. Congratulation on a job well done.

This post is like a gyro. 100% Greek to me but I want one.

Lakehurst Naval Air Station is a few miles from my home. Hindenburg crash site. You cannot believe the volume of those hangars. Insane. On occasion a cloud or mist forms inside near the roof.

Honestly can't see than much water in there in a month.

Adam is correct. Let it lay for months and that's the result.

Say wasn't there a photo of Ford assembly line workers using just such a tool? Was it perhaps a film? I know I saw it somewhere on the Forum.

I've read plenty on HF and truthfully the nicest thing I can say is I'm glad I never worked for him. Aside from family he basically died alone. No one hung around from the old days and some left 2 skid marks at the factory front door as their cheeks hit the pavement on the way out. The actions invol...

Bundles of shingles?

The gear can be installed 180 deg. out. Actually it's the cam shaft that's 180 deg. out. The gear can be installed 2 ways. No "locator". This results in the companion cylinders swapping places. Lets say if correctly installed #1 is on compression and #4 is on exhaust. With the gear on a cam that's 1...

I used the Model A style rear lamps. Mounted on the rear spare tire carrier completely removable. These lamps come with 2 sockets per lamp. Believe I converted one socket to dual filament giving me stop/turn /tail capabilities. Kind of "old timey" looking turn signal switch pretty sure came from Lan...

Read the wet/dry comp test results; Rings. It's rings. It's the only thing he didn't check through the hard starting situation. It's very simple guys. Very very simple. Compression that low in and engine with compression that should average say 55 Lbs = hard starting. It's why I always check T compr...

Agree. If at this point you think any form of gathering is going to happen you may have just woken up from a coma. A very long coma.

Full strength? 90 days. You're better off draining it no matter what.

To Moxie26: Beating a dead horse Bob.

Gotta tell you when those #'s went up with oil added I got a bad feeling in my stomach.You know what I mean too. The horse is long out of the barn but this is what comes from ripping the head off before doing any testing. Even comp testing the 2 good cyls you originally had left when the gasket went...

Can't really say for sure like many here but I had the '27 Tudor in the very early 2000's so maybe around then. If the "crash" some are mentioning is when we all lost our "seniority" and ended up on a flat re-start plane I was here for that. How about a date to refresh a senior's memory? Check in at...

Stick with it and follow the suggestions. My 1st. T, a '27, had a vaporizer. The problem was I was too new to T's and ended up switching to an NH. (which I liked a lot). But my point is I wasn't willing to learn at that time. I'm older now and think I know better than tossing $ at correcting a probl...

Here's mine made from Poplar. So close they'd only fit this car. Your problem is no eng/trans in place. I'd definitely wait for it to be back in place. Anything else would be a crap shoot.

Steve all you have to do is go ahead with the drill bit piece and button the engine up. About 5 minutes later that box of missing pins will show up.

I'm with Scott on this. Very cool ingenious set up but if it's able to be turned over with air it's probably a lot easier just running it.

To tell you the truth it sounds like you were actually expecting junk anyway. Good luck or the repairs.

Hold it . Hold it. what were the dry readings? Did they go up when you wet it or stay the same? Stayed about the same it's (usually) valves. That's quite low for just valves. they must be quite a bit out of adjustment or burned. Good Luck.

Clean the metal around the shaft extremely well. Perhaps brake cleaaner or some such degreaser. Lightly lube the shaft then apply silicone sealer around the shaft & on the surrounding metal. The silicone wont stick to the shaft but should adhere t the caseing metal if properly cleaned. Let it set up...

sometimes you just forget what you thought you knew.

They have larger in-line filters than the ones you pictured. They are for smaller engines. As for those in tank screens: you can't get 'em out easily. Pass on that as far as I'm concerned.

If you're after a pump that's one thing however if it's just filtering you want go to a mower shop and get an in-line filter for a gravity fed system. Most riding mowers are gravity fuel fed. I have used this type of filter for quite a while with no problems.

As a former buzz box guy I was amazed at the improvement in operation with properly tuned coils. My '23 started dead cold on mag hand cranking after they were installed.

you 'wanna sell you gotta' advertise.

"Is a puzzlement" as Yul Brenner famously said. I'm off the ignition business and on to leaking valve/blocked exhaust (Good guess Ed).

So why didn't it get runny in the can? Do yourself a big favor and get a small tin of real modern wheel bearing grease and do them right. Wolf's Head Red. high temp, high pressure. Small tin a few bucks.

Quite a while back I was searching for a wooden gas dip stick/gauge. Couldn't find one in the catalog. They must have read the post because one arrived in the mail. Unsolicited and no charge. Impossible to beat that.

Man gotta chime in here after reading this post with my 2 cents; repairing what you've got is the way I'd go for sure. The difference in illumination isn't great enough to do the extra work to convert plus you're adding on battery maintenance. Maybe i'm just El Cheapo but I'd fix up the existing sys...

As the motto on my posts reads "forget everything you thought you knew". As a lifelong professional auto mechanic I know the T is a island unto itself. Or I should say I learned that. Even with experience I sought help and got it here. Glad for you & Good Luck.

First off we need to know the engines age/condition. Second it's not been mentioned if this started with the timer change. I'm assuming it didn't. The faster cranking speed you get from towing is a bit telling. Leads me to think about low compression. You apparently have fuel and ignition since it s...

Have no idea why this thread brought back memories of Nabisco chocolate chip cookies. Late 50's I guess. Rectangular box covered in a paper wrapper. Waxed box with wax paper covering the cookies inside. We didn't have glasses wide enough to dunk them in milk and had to break them in half. They degen...

In case any one is interested; your "white goop" is the ethanol dissolving the "varnish" left over from dissolved regular (non ethanol) fuel. Regular fuel will not dissolve its own varnish but the ethanol will. The white goop is the result. It's the varnish. Went wild in the boat yard many years ago...

I'm pretty much with the consensus here. The Touring is my favorite body style any way + as stated the depot hack is home made. Nice but not right. Might make a future resale a problem.

Every one says this works but how about a plausible explanation as to why?

You will at least need double filament sockets and bulbs. Also with that type of lighting you'll need a proper type turn signal switch which will, for instance, keep a brake light on one side lit when the turn signal is on the other side at a stop light. Get a Fun Projects stop light kit too. Well w...

I think (since you saw a spark), it may be looking for a ground as in the engine isn't grounded to the frame in a consistent manner. Bumps and shaking in the road might be causing the engine to lose it's ground to the frame for a moment. I'd try an engine to frame ground wire. Doesn't have to be cab...

Awaiting the out come & results but it was bound to happen that this type of unit (and variations of it) would start to show up. Stuff just keeps getting cheaper & smaller.

So correct me: no kerosene cowl lamps. Assuming a '19 starter car? The flick is credited to '20 so damn near a new car? (pretty shiney too).

Bud and Tdump made the only 2 points I could agree with.

Personal experience here ; sorry to say hang all the lights & flares you want but don't expect to actually be any safer. feel safer, maybe, but don't be fooled.

UUUUUUUUUUUuuuuummmmmm……………...Never mind.

But no feet. what do you expect it to do ? Crawl ?

"Ran fine before the wiring change". Now what, if any thing, could cause poor performance/backfiring after the change. If the wiring was correctly done probably nothing in itself. Perhaps the switches and terminals are better suspects. You mentioned a hot ignition switch. The fact that it's not gett...

Pass.

Of course what Dan said above is true. Running on DC will cause the points to wear faster than AC as the metal begins to transfer in one direction whereas (as anyone whose played with more modern systems will know) you get a pit on one point contact and a raised section on the other. Since you have ...

Be vigilant. I don't believe you've solved it unless it overheated to the point where it locked but I doubt that.

First off what is or describe the "hard stuff" on the cyl. walls. Melted metal or what ? Were you losing coolant or perhaps blowing white smoke if you had anti-freeze in it ? There wouldn't be coolant in the cyls. if the head/gasket was OK. Check the drive line/trans & make sure nothing is causing t...

You're asking I'm telling: don't trade. Keep the A.

Yes sir it's diet change or tight clothes for sure. At 194 & 6' 1" I decided to act before I got bigger. Always walked a mile a day average with no weight drop. "Anything you like don't eat". Well that but modified for sure. Fries are darn near out. A few. And I mean a few. Bread ? Whole wheat & no ...

Put a drop of water on the end of the valve stem. if it's leaking you'll see a bubble form. At least it'll eliminate them if that's the problem.

John Kuehn. One line post. Done.

Although Steve has a point about rusting a decent anti-freeze will have rust inhibitors in it. I only bring it up because I'm in the ain't broke don't fix it club. The holes, for whatever reason, were tapped for pipe threads so you can't go back to the factory type plug. They could be rusted or some...

adave's post; you cannot give rides to 18 year olds or younger unless the vehicle was designed with proper belts & restraints. They are not wrong and yet still folks here are still justifying their actions. Your kid can't ride in a roadster ? Well no. Not safely. You lived through riding unstrapped ...

I am always totally amazed at how many of you completey ignore and (worse) make light of common sense safety when it involves children. Don't you realize that even if a child is in an approved safety seat properly belted in and correctly used in a Model T the chances of coming out unscathed in an ac...

In Korea years back, (about 50. Kunsan AFB), 2 guys working on a truck tire, which was laying on the ground instead of in the tire cage where it belonged, blew off the rim. Probably the lock ring wasn't set correctly. They were leaning over the tire when it went off. One guy lost both hands and the ...

Cleaning up just seems to make room for more stuff.

that thing looks dangerous as hell just sitting there.

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