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Bottom line you'll only find them with some luck. Original Boyco's & such can still come up for sale like here or Ebay, or be found in antique stores, swap meets, etc. Just keep your eye out, but they tend to be very pricey. There had been some reproduction 'Boyco' copies made years past, but no lon...

Just for specificity, what truck cab style are these for?
Definitely not for the factory closed cab, not sure about the factory C cab, not sure how tall the side/back panels are for the C. The closed cab are all narrow strips.. Might help to identify intended use.

The shoes for a TT are completely unique to the trucks, and are different and much larger than the car brake shoes.
They are cast shoes, with a riveted lining.

I don't know what availability exists today, but it took me forever to find a pair in the snail mail want ads world of the 80's.

But where's the fun in that???

According to my wife, I can't get anything without first tearing it all apart...she keeps asking me why the T is completely apart now after I got it running...she figured it was done then!

Unpin the brake rod on the active wheel and lock up the brake on the other

My Dad & Uncle were two of the original 40's/50's Southern Calif Hot Rodders, chopping & channeling mostly '32 to '34 Ford Coupes and racing on the salt flats. My Dad's pride & joy was his '36 Ford Cabriolet he had into the early 60's, with a '51 Lincoln V8, where he could recite with pride every op...

Cleaning, stripping rust & old paint, and repainting all the various small chassis/body parts. Now I'm eyeballing my firewall, an original in solid condition, but finish worn down to bare wood in spots. Thinking I'll try repairing, bleaching, cleaning, prepping, lightly sand and refinish vs buying a...

Who doesn't love a flathead V8 hotrod...
But why oh WHY do so to a perfectly decent condition one owner car???? Some things I don't get, this one being sacrilegious IMHO.

Welcome!
Those are some great TT's. My first T was a Closed Cab stake side TT.
And this beast is a hoot!!! I can only imagine what's required to crank this monster!

https://youtu.be/C9Aomol9494?si=FCnQDN1eyfgjrbws

You can buy eyelets to screw into the spark plug hole and lift with a cherry picker (engine hoist), easily found to rent. Personally, I don't like putting that much stress on the head using just one eyelet especially with an off horizontal lift. Two is minimum in my book, but that's just me & my par...

Mike, Well, I'll confirm your suspicions about white lithium. When I tore down my TT in the 80's I had to store machined parts until I had the money to restore. That was one of the recommendations then, greased up and wrapped in oil cloth. Only to discover later the onset of serious rust after only ...

Thank ya'll!

So just picked up a set of used rollers Chaffin's was selling recently, got them all cleaned up nice & purty, question being, what is the preferred method for long term storage, especially given I'm in humid/coastal salt air.

Let me know all your suggestions....

The perches are in correct position per my eye. With the axle positioned vertically (and therefore the perch pins thru the axle being vertical), then the spring and wishbone mounts would be canted forward as is seen in the pic. With the spring & wishbone mounts horizontal, the perch axle pin and top...

Interesting combo of parts.
The engine is 26/27, but it is not a TT frame.
I don't recognize the cab, but neither is it a factory TT cab, probably a mash up of a much later body.

Well, it's not a TT frame, and interesting use of a mating plate to adapt a car torque tube, ya wonder what happened to the TT torque tube given it would have to use a TT drive shaft (shortened as well), not a car ds, to spline into the worm.
Use what ya got!

Man, next time I go thru MO, I'm bringing some tools and giving you a call!

Wasn't 979 the prefix for all the porn telephone numbers back in the day? LOL

Gulf T's is disbanded, it was Kathy Tagert I was in contact with. Several from that club attend events organized by a South GA group, there was one last Fall in Tallahassee I missed, unfortunately.
My '14 wasn't local, it lived its life in Michigan, but nice to know there may be another '14 close by.

The halves should not clamp on the bearing spool, especially if you used a paper gasket beyween the halves. If it is tight relax the diff half bolts a turn or two. You cn use the back bolts on the radius rods to drive the housong forward. Allan from down under. Thanks Allan, I hadnt considered usin...

Well, presumably base purpose being an oiler, but yet so odd in many ways simply begging for more questions... Like, where did it come from, why is it an unfinished casting being that the oil outlet remains untapped, and what purpose for the top cover, an inspection hole, or what? But, given it woul...

While we no longer have an active Model T or A club here on the panhandle, we do have an FSU Branch here in Panama City. I did my fair share as an Engineering Instructer with AT&T and would love to offer something like this. I for one would certainly be interested in your material. There HAS to be o...

Scope is on order from Amazon....figure I can wait a few days before cracking the egg.

Pat, Ya don't have to sell me, I stand with ya. I'm not of the younger cancel culture revisionist mindset. I was very disheartened for my son, which caused me to wonder what kind of reception something like this would get in today's college environment after the sh** show my son received 17 yrs ago!...

Great project, but I certainly hope ya'll end up with a good audience. While all your draft slides paint positives, today's world is steeped in rewriting history, focusing on negatives, or virtue signaling applying todays perceptions to cancel those of yesterday. My son did the same kind of report a...

I can't tell from your text if the assembly is back in the car. If not, just undo the front nuts on the radius rods and the 6 spool bolts and slide the driveshaft assembly forward. Allan from down under. Allan, Still sitting in a cradle. That would be my hope for easiest path if I have to check by ...

Blow it up and look at the faces.
Not to mention several people appear to be missing legs/feet, but that's OK, looks like I found one of the missing legs on this lady....

So...
The restriction would be the threaded portion of the housing for the spool stud, being the narrowest point.
The camera head diameter on the Depstech is 7.9mm....
I just mic'd several of the old spool stud nuts at ID 8.5mm tightest to 8.85 worn..... WOOT!!! We have a go for launch!!

Great idea Kevin, here I've been thinking about having to bend/snake/contort thru the drain hole around the carrier, but that's a straight shot if it fits!!! Hadn't yet thought of that.
Now to get specs on camera head/snake diameter....

Thanks ya'll!!!!!
Who doesn't love a new tool?

I might just end up loving my evil paranoid side!

Hmmm...OK so I just looked.... $32-$80 either Wallyworld or China Harbor.....
Mama just shakes her head everytime I say I need a new tool!!!
I might just need that!!! Better than needlessly cracking the egg....

Dan....

And who might that be???
I already bought one spare axle from you....
You wanting to sell me that Rux??

Hey John, I actually thought of that, but neither am I aware of who/how/where I can access one. Thought of a plumber, but didn't think they'd be small enough....
Something to look into, or, maybe some of ya'll have suggestions....

I'm now realizing being anal with an evil minded paranoid subconscious does NOT make a good combination! My ego of youth never allowed such doubt to ever disturb my beauty sleep.... this is new uncharted waters for me as I creep up in years....at the moment I'm discounting the side of me screaming "...

I generally don't recall my dreams, but this morning I woke up like I'd been poked with a cattle prod! I had recently rebuilt my rear axle. Through all the various test fits setting thrust bearings and gear lash, while I had torqued down the pinion gear, I had left it unpinned intending to do it wit...

+1 on Dan,
Sure looks like a rudimentary pre-heat unit to me

This is what's sad to see, so many wishbones that appear to be in good shape w/good balls, stacked carefully presumably for that very reason, but....all the ends now buried in the ground rotting away.....

Boy would I love to spend an afternoon in that yard...

Any '17 and early style over axle wishbones in decent condition are near impossible to find. Any early/early short yoke versions are going the way of the DoDo bird. That one is a platinum find. The biggest problem of all is they are near impossible to ship, quotes being in the hundreds of $$$.

^^^^^^
Ya wonder sometimes how large scrap heaps of good steel like that escaped WWII.

The last pic reminded me of a time I was 4 wheeling out in the Sierra eastern high desert decades ago, between Bishop and Mammoth lakes CA. Way out in the middle of nowhere we came across a very large trash heap. Typical stuff, bottles, small to large tin cans, but tons of Model T and other car part...

I just bolted two 2x4's to my bench extending out far enough to cradle the housing, and screwed in cross boards between the two to keep the housing secure and resting on 4 points.
$5 vs $100, worked fine for me anyway.

Oops...oh lord, how embarrassing, my head math is going wonky!! Damn, I'm going senile!!
AAAAAHHHHH!!!

Yes to all that.
Just another fun Ford T observation!
Quirky things that they are!

Just kinda hard to imagine a casting/machining process that would be so significantly off center...you'd think 0.10 would be a huge deviation, but obviously not.
But, 116 years ago, that was obviously "AH, it's good enough"

Constantly inspecting and cleaning up parts, I noticed something odd about my fan hub. The belt hub itself spins true. The fan blades themselves spin true. However, the hub shaft and blade flange are spinning 0.097" off center!! The rivets for the blades were drilled true to shaft center, not with t...

OK, round two, the other iron.... anyone? Looks kind of similar, but stamped 90 degrees....or....??? And on that note, is there a comprehensive list of supplier marks somewhere? I tried searching and find onsie twosies, but not a list.....does one exist, maybe in a book somewhere?? Cuz I've encounte...

57 years....wow....
My deepest condolences on the loss of your wife.

Thanks ya'll!!
The "extraordinary" I was seeking was knowledge, and ya'll delivered! Appreciate it!!

Cleaning up parts on Daisy (1914 Touring), working on the front fender irons. The headlamp pickle forks are DB's, but I'm not familiar with the mark on the actual fender iron.
Anyone?

"Desperate for sunlight...after weeks of fog" Boy does that bring back memories living in Modesto, with Dec/Jan Tule fog. 10 feet of visibility, driving by tailgating the one in front of you while reciting 3 prayers: 1) I hope this guy can see the road 2) I hope he doesn't get in an accident 3) I ho...

I run a Schebler in my A, way better than the stock Zenith.
That's a great price for a good carb.

We can solve that!! I'll just bring my '14 to you and you can put on new tires for me! I'll hold the camera!

LOVE the woofie driving the T.
My beloved recently passed Gracie loved to drive...

Given the rear brakes, most aux shocks will no longer fit. But if your question is, is it OK to run shocks in front with none in the rear, the quick answer is yes. The front being more damped than the rear could potentially set up a hobby horse bounce, but at the speeds of a T, can't imagine anythin...

I can only imagine having to contend with Auto clinchers, while Mom, in her Sunday best, endured the constancy of heat, cold, dust etc. Yet some of us do have similar experiences with our bicycles or dirtbikes. Where I grew up in CA the dry hills were full of this nasty plant called Star Thistle...f...

I don't know...
That looks way too professional, planned out and much more efficient than any Rube Goldberg!!

Thumbs up!

"Let's leave the concert early Honey to beat the crowd" obviously hadn't been invented yet

Restoring nails...brings back memories. One of my jobs as a very young kid at my Grandparents place was sitting at his anvil straightening buckets full of old nails, most of them old forged square heads saved from an old demolished barn. I still have a handful of them, anywhere from 2" to 12" in len...

Thank God for Florida, Horseless Carraige tag is lifetime free.

But considering what my brothers say they pay for their regular cars in CA, 174 is cheap.

All I can say is a big shout out & Thanks to Dan Hatch for personaly restoring/straightening/shimming my '14 DB axle!!! My steering is as good as it was new.

Contact Chaffin's to see if they have any, they've sold several sets here recently.
Also I bought a set from Lang's a while ago.
These type bearings are not being made, and remaining stocks are not sufficient to advertise, you'll need to call the vendors & inquire. Good luck!

Left the comfort of Florida's version of 58 degree cold to brave Ohio's snow & ice 10 degree version this past week. I just wanted to thank all the Ohio T folks I met this week for their very warm hospitality, specifically Joe Bell, Bill Reep and Nathan Fahrni. (Tim Wrenn, sorry I missed you this tr...

That there is just pure love for the T...

I hope to keep cranking my '14 for years to come, but with the rebuild this year I'm adding a ringed flywheel and starter mag in case I ever need to swap out to a hogshead w/starter

Sold to Perry pending payment

I have 2 late style wide brake drum cotton band linings I have no use for. One looks to be a MonkeyW's or Western Auto with the colored edging, the other I have no clue. The MW/WA lining is also thicker & slightly wider then the other. Both yours for $25 with shipping included (continental US) PM or...

The creeper is just one of the things that cruelly reminds us that while we still think we can do the things we did in our 20's, we're at the age that those things take longer, hurt more for longer, take longer to heal, and what we used to do all night now takes all night to get up to do. But hey, w...

Maybe it's just the universe telling you that you and your T aren't meant to be separated.

I wish I lived closer to attend your open house.

Mine is a March '14, presuming the axle was original given the DB axle shafts, babbitt thrusts, and it had bronze bushed spiders...but it didn't have a bronze bushed carrier...so had to be prior to early 14 anyway...

How many snakes & black widows found new homes as well?

I know an awful lot of folks my age (late 60's) who are reluctantly selling off cars with manual transmissions because of leg issues. Maybe heresy to purists, but you certainly can't argue with the beautiful fabrication of that unit that answers to such concerns of maintaining enjoyment.

My '14 carrier was so wallered out that my machine shop suggested this very thing as a fix, to machine the carrier and press in brass, then machine/size the axle gears to fit. While I kept all my parts for future potential rebuild, I just bought a good carrier from Dan for my rebuild, and replaced m...

Re your '14, my '14 body plate & engine # are also far off, but it's also my understanding that there was no correlation at that point.

Steve, sent email. Thnx

Yanked out the handbrake lever today. Having restored a '25 decades ago, now that I'm cleaning up a '14 I'm constantly amazed at all the engineering differences I'm finding between the two. Some things you see improvements, while other things changed became cheaper quality (obvious cost/time cutting...

Finally got my friend to bring over his cherry picker so I could hoist out Daisy's engine, getting ready to haul up to Joe Bell.
Roadtrip!!!!!

Nothing… wife says I have to finish the master bathroom first! Lol IMG_3996.jpeg LOL... and I know what that's like!!! Having gutted and rebuilt 5 homes in our marriage, she never did understand the reality of living in chaos during the time required for this one man crew to complete the job. After...

Just rebuilt mine using Glen's axle 'Bible'.
Many thanks to all the Chaffin family, and Happy Birthday Glen. That's quite a milestone!

George, no, that was horizontal & vertical measurements for the right side fastener. The left one is exact same position/measurements

Hey George, here's how they exist on my '14

If you're successful, please post your result, would love to see it. Maybe something you could reproduce & sell.

I have an air maze on my Model A.
Living on the Emerald Coast, with fine white sand, anytime the wind is blowing you can see the sand blowing in the air.
Don't need open throats here!!
Haven't yet fabricated something for the T...

Some of those panicked people had plenty of income... and probably drove less than 500 miles in a year. Ever see a family of four stuffed into a Vega? But that 4 door, paid for '68 Olds 88 four door just had to go!!! Why I drive my vehicles into the ground! Never understood people's skewed sense of...

Some time ago, during one of the contrived gas price run-ups, you could buy a fine late model Cadillac or full size pickup truck dirt cheap.... while people rushed to dispose of their "gas hogs" and flocked to buy grim little econoboxes at prices well over list. The steep price crash on the bigger ...

I'm running one of Cory's black bowl G's on my 14, but dang that's gorgeous....

Hmmmmm.... "OH Honey, you know Christmas is coming!"

Just don't junk the Ruckstell, those for TT's are not easy to come by.

Very nice! My first T was a '25 Closed Cab TT.

I notice yours has a Ruckstell, nice! All torque & no speed LOL. You can literaly crawl in a parade. Do you know what ratio you have, 5:1/7:1?

Welcome!

"Believe".... nope, definitely later boot scraper.
Distinguished by having the curved "boot scraper" lip (early style was simply cut straight/no raised edge), and, the boot scraper style was also longer than the early style.

I was bragging on Jeff to my wife a few months back. When I was rebuilding my rear axle I had watched his 4 part series on YouTube. What struck me most was watching Jeff, older than me, skinny & wirey as he is, muscle the completed axle assembly from vertical to horizontal lifting it up by the radiu...

Ten years off from your requested time period, but this was my '25 TT when I brought it home. Spent its life as a parcel delivery truck.

You don't like road edges with a hill ya say??

Bottom line, anything running E85 vs gas/10% will get way worse mileage given ethanol only has about 2/3 the equivalent BTU's to gas. This also therefore equates to reduced power output. So, unless E85 is less than 2/3 the cost of gas, or you don't mind wasting $$$ from a mileage perspective or maki...

You didn't happen to live in CA in the 70's did ya? LOL

Having lived here since 2012 (50%), full time since 2018, we have witnessed the infamous green flash only twice! It is that elusive. And we're on the beach quite often at sunset. My post retirement job here is marrying folks on the beach, not to mention just being our most favorite time. My most fav...

Too beautiful not to share, what we had in Panama City Beach this evening.

Peace

Ten? That's a biggun! I've had more than my fair share dealing with rattler's. I'll let you pet them!

Wish I lived closer.

Reminds me of a story from my youth. My bro's & I welded up and sold mini-bike frames as kids, so our garage was full of various contraptions, all of which constantly depleted my dad's gas can, much to his consternation. We paid regular visits to the local auto salvage yards snooping around collecti...

On my closed cab, there were no blocks on the rear cab mounts. The heavy gauge bottom cab plate bolted directly to the frame. There are however wood blocks up front. It's been several decades ago, but I seem to recall the forward mounts had 3 bolts, one large center, one smaller that attached throug...

When I first got my TT, the engine made a loud clicking. One of the magnet plate screws had begun backing out. As the flywheel rotated across each coil the polarity changes one side to the other caused the plate to flip flop making the click. But, between the flip flop of the plate, and the screw he...

How many rattlesnakes in that pile??

Interesting conversion of car chassis & TT axle, curious as to the donor frame extension/springs. At least its not buried in pig farm mud pond like the TT axle I dragged out on a farm south of Merced. You live in beautiful country. My Grandpa lived in Grass Valley, ex military/private pilot, he & I ...

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