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Daisy Mae

Don't assume a good visual = no problem. My ring & pinion 'looked' fine....while ALL my internals were toast. While I didn't notice any growl in motion, mine clunked (loud, & felt under the floorboard) in reverse. The DS spool bearing was badly worn causing pinion hop...among everything else that co...

Daisy Mae

Steve, yes, the ones from Lang's have the relief as well.
Right/wrong/indifferent, I did dress up the outer relief (inner facing) edge with a thin layer of RTV to help seal the outer edge against the tube/face. But, thin/skim, certainly nothing that could have caused that much clearance issue.

Daisy Mae

Thankfully my original outer seal cups were in good condition, I just oiled up new felts and reused the cups...

But Dan, ya don't happen to still have those NOS cups nobody wanted, do ya? I'll take them!!!

Daisy Mae

Used the metal backed neoprene seals from Lang's

Daisy Mae

IIRC, installation of the inner neoprene seal requires shortening the inside end of the axle sleeve by the thickness of the seal (?) I just rebuilt my '14 axle, and ran into that reality... Between the early axle, and the neoprene seals, I had to shave a good 3/16th off the outer sleeves to flush e...

Daisy Mae

Brian.....Classic!!
Old time period rural fix....that will outlast the zombie apocalypse!!

Daisy Mae

Your cast iron ends look to be in great condition. Give them an overnight soak in something like Ospho to help descale (Might be anal, but after soaking in acid I always neutralize by following up in a water bath with baking soda, then rinsing). Paint as you will with high temp.. I recently bought a...

Daisy Mae

Pat/Craig, I can add my own experience to that. When I bought my late (Aug) '25 TT Closed cab back in the 80's and tore it down, I found some interesting stuff. The original rear pan ears had obviously fatigued and had been removed in its past, replaced by aftermarket plate steel ears bolted to the ...

Daisy Mae

A/C are what ya want...

Daisy Mae

Maybe both A & C are repros of the TT handles. Mine had 'Ford' script stamped on the side of the shaft surround. Clear enough that my sand casts faithfully maintained. I went digging this afternoon, no joy yet. But I know I gave some extras to the guy who bought it in ATL, might be able to snag some...

Daisy Mae

Never seen the cup spinners before, but have seen one of the airplanes....have always wanted one of the plane spinners...

Daisy Mae

My late 25 (Aug) closed cab had original cast iron Ford stamped handles as in A, the upper right version. They were impossible to find in the eighties, I used to sand cast repro's out of aluminum and sell them back then...wonder how many TT's still have those aluminum handles....pretty sure I kept a...

Daisy Mae

Just one of a few of Leno's Faux pas.... calling the rux an overdrive...

Daisy Mae

What car guy doesn't love Leno....
Nice video, despite some cringe worthy statements/actions...

Daisy Mae

That's a right/passenger side perch

Daisy Mae

It's an early 2 piece tube

Interesting as to why it would have been stamped Patented.
Thanks...it's obvious now.... Doh!

Daisy Mae

I don't recognize nor can fully make out the stamping on the torque tube flange..... anyone?

Daisy Mae

Wow..... Its what we all wish for, to have/create a common bond, but for which not all are blessed with the current generations. None of our 4 kids have expressed any interest or desire for my Model A Roadster or T Touring. One already inherited my Mustang, one wants my Jeep Grand Wagoneer, daughter...

Daisy Mae

If you suspect that the blemish between the X and the B is crack, I doubt that it is. It looks like a casting flaw to me. Hey Pat, not that blemish, it was the line I noticed between the bore and the G stamp.... but after looking at it closer it appears to be just a fine surface scratch. I wont wor...

Daisy Mae

Ash Fork to Seligman (Snow Cap drive-in is a MUST!!!!!!), the north loop via Peach Springs to Kingman, and Kingman to Oatman are all good condition/driveable roads, all driven last Oct. It was always the thing to take carrots & apples to feed the wild burro's in Oatman, been doing that since I was a...

Daisy Mae

Obsolete, derided, rediculed, cussed at all thru time...
Some look at those traits with eyes of disdain...
We look at them with loving eyes as simply their forgivable personality traits!

Daisy Mae

Daisy Mae being my '14 Touring. The front axle/steering assembly is restored, just about ready to button up the rear axle rebuild. I knew the tranny had issues, biggest concern being 3/8" play in the drum pack. But the engine ran very well, albeit some oil burn, and some bubbling at the head above t...

Daisy Mae

There's not a great market for TT's as it is, I say 2k is being overly generous for an open market offer for a TT in need of so many parts.... I seriously doubt a seller could get that much considering its condition and the fact it has a Hodge podge of parts from various years. Most would look at th...

Daisy Mae

Definitely TT stakeside bed, exactly like what was on my Closed Cab TT.

Daisy Mae

Avoid Sitgreaves Pass???? That's no fun! Just hitch up some of those wild donkeys and have them pull you up the grade... you'd be surprised what you can get them to do with a bag of carrots! ;) Church parking lots are a great suggestion...been there before. I used to park in community parks in my yo...

Daisy Mae

The AI output in search engines is nothing more than a machine generated summary of the target subject collected from various data sources across the web. Despite the name, or presumption, there is no intelligence, there is no proofing, it merely is garbage in garbage out...it just does it faster. T...

Daisy Mae

@ Pat....'36 Buick..... My dad had a 36 Ford Cabriolet, all period hotrodded... his pride & joy....oh to have that car now! When he was married in '50, he had to temporarily leave it at his parents house. His 12 year old brother needed a steering wheel for his soap box go cart, and hacksawed the ste...

Daisy Mae

Ain't that the truth. In my life though, my Dad & Uncle were original SoCal hotrodders of the 40/50's, so they were all about it. My High School years were spent driving a 63 Studebaker Avanti, and then on to a 69 Mustang Mach. My eldest bro had a 50's MGTD, while my other brother, who was not into ...

Daisy Mae

I just use a rule of thumb to use as big a pin as possible to fully occupy the bolt hole, the pin head expanded into the nut slot, then trimmed to length to bend one arm down the side of the nut, the other arm up and across the top of the bolt. Screenshot_20250720_134315_Gallery.jpg Screenshot_20250...

Daisy Mae

The telephone #, being a 2L-5N format (2 letter, denoting the local exchange, 5 number the specific routing & customer #) came in use in the 30's, was ubiquitous Nationwide by the 40's, and died out by the early 60's. 34 years with AT&T...I personally oversaw 7 major network evolutions... the rate o...

Daisy Mae

Just a memory comment re Bob's. I am fairly certain I bought the last set of NOS TT shackles Bob's had around '82, still on the truck. He was one of only a couple vendors offering anything TT...Hard to find anything TT back then from anyone. and as I recall he was the only one who ramped up to repro...

Daisy Mae

I use (and offer) Venmo cuz I perform weddings on the beach because many of the younger generations use it. But Venmo, like many such, I don't like cuz there's no recall...if something goes wrong that money is gone as far as I know. I like PayPal due to some of its protections, but most want you to ...

Daisy Mae

Looks like it would be very easy to sand cast more of those with aluminum..... if you ever find one...
I'd be interested...pretty unique...

Daisy Mae

I haven't, but my dad and best friend have. They were of the same mind...both said: 1) it was the best thing they did, and said they wished had done it sooner. 2) physical therapy afterwards was an absolute necessity, and not to be underestimated or ignored. My dad, being a doctor, was of course the...

Daisy Mae

Hmmmm
The plot thickens.
I stand by my earlier post.

Nuff said...

Daisy Mae

How about Dodge?

Daisy Mae

Fabricate a way to reverse flush the block as well, even if duct taping a hose to the lower outlet. There's also potential for large crude to be retained in the head.... in my case I got a dozen acorns! (Both out of the head as well as upper radiator tank....kids...squirrels, lord knows sitting sinc...

Daisy Mae

Darel, It is amazing to me the time you've enjoyed your T. I wish you luck with your sale. My suggestion, given the rarity of your T, is to PLEASE be careful of any internet inquiry. If the OP had been contacting you, I would bet good money he was a scammer. Vehicle sales, across all genre, are rife...

Daisy Mae

The reason you question it is that youre looking thru purist eyes giving credence and legitimacy to all the suggestions offered. But that wasn't the issue (not that I know specifically why he was removed). But here's my opinion. The OP was decidedly acerbic, Machiavelian, narcissistic and psychopath...

Daisy Mae

When I got Daisy Mae started the first time I already knew the tranny was worn given 3/8" play in the drum pack, but otherwise appeared decent. The rear end wasn't making any undue noise, so, I opted for a once around the block test drive. Two things noted, delayed clutch engagement, but also a loud...

Daisy Mae

My birthday present at 7 yrs old.... what started me on my love of T's...
I had the entire 'Yesteryear' collection, but this one was my favorite.
I take exception to the description of the T being "somewhat ugly".....says who?!?!?

Daisy Mae

Good on you, Mitchell!
Way to represent!

Daisy Mae

I hope I look that good when I'm 93!
Happy Birthday!

I imagine you have lots of stories about that '10 from age 14 to now....

Daisy Mae

Always a hoot rolling down the strip along the restaurant in the Model A hitting the ooogah... gets lots of attention from those eating on the patio

Daisy Mae

Shoulda given me a holler.... I'm a mile away

Daisy Mae

Congrats, and good luck with the dream trip.
About 10 yrs ago I was in Yellowstone and met a family, couple and two young kids, traveling the USA in an old 20's open Touring, can't remember the make. But they had travelled all the way from Argentina!! Talk about an adventure!!

Daisy Mae

Wish I could make it up there, I'd snag 'em. They are lunatic expensive to ship, and I'd love a spare one in decent shape. Every one I've seen or got my hands on require extensive repair, if even possible in some cases. But I hate even more the idea of these parts being junked being harder to find. ...

Daisy Mae

@ Jay....
If you're wearing Engineer bibs, do you happen to volunteer at the Model railroad setup at the Grass Valley Fair Grounds??
(My Grandpa laid track for that tie by tie/spike by spike many decades ago)

Daisy Mae

Know body nose how to reed or rite anymore

Daisy Mae

Awesome idea!!!!!!!!!!!

Daisy Mae

@ Jerry Well, not quite impossible... Between my axle bearings being shot, and the fact that my diff carrier studs all worked loose (cottered, not wired) introducing a ton of slop in the carrier, one diff pin was eaten where the loose plate had deeply cut thru the diff collar. But to your point, yes...

Daisy Mae

You have to throw away the bad parts and use good ones. My axle, while still miraculously working, was toast. The only things being reused in the rebuild are the axle halves and torque tube. Most all else are new parts: Axles Drive shaft Drive shaft tapered roller bearing cartridge DS bushing Ring ...

Daisy Mae

Yup, that's what I'm following, Glenn's write up.

Daisy Mae

So I'm in process of setting up my rear axle. The original thrust bearing washers ate thru the pins and subsequently dropped enough to chew into the diff carrier collar. Assembling the new means setting the washers with some grease to hold in place and keep the plates dropping off the pins. The goal...

Daisy Mae

IMO there are no quality small flags out there....none found yet anyway. My wife has a sewing machine and runs a wide stitch around the borders, and, as Terry suggested, we tried fabric glue. First tried wiping the edges down on both sides of the stitch about an inch width with fabric glue, but the ...

Daisy Mae

?? Sale fall thru?

Daisy Mae

My Great Grandma, who owned a shop in Burbank CA in the teen/20's, told me many stories of things they saw from rural owners...not just leather belts, but pig skin! She said pig skin was also common as a quick fix for burned out bearings.

Daisy Mae

+1 on what Mack said. Don't let finances detract you from your dream. It took me 30 years to restore my TT. It's called priorities. Once I had kids, there was NO time or money for the T. Frustrating? Yes. Demotivating? Yes. I got to the point of hating seeing it in the garage. It represented failure...

Daisy Mae

Funny!

I've bought & sold so many cars, I've both used those terms as well as knowing to be wary of them!

Daisy Mae

IMHO, getting into the world of antique cars takes more than just desire. Desire is just the jumping board. But making that leap carries the reality of what you're jumping into. Getting into a local club, or with anyone local who's in the same hobby, to be immersed with like minded/skilled folks is ...

Daisy Mae

Always a sad day when you lose your home, but to lose a treasure like an antique car just adds to the pain.

Living on the FL Emerald Coast, my steel shop is built certified to 180mph wind. Safer riding it out there than in the home, if it wasn't for the fact the noise is hugely amplified!

Daisy Mae

This was my Great Grandmother's gas station/service garage and Hupmobile dealership in Burbank CA. While the large bay is open, the doors were similar design to the two smaller bays to the side, all of which operated like folding doors, hinged together and folded to the sides... Edit, I just asked m...

Daisy Mae

I feel like a dentist cleaning the axle halves... Between 111 years of paint, dirt, grease & rust on the backing plate, all hardened into a plaque.... Screw driver scraping... Degreaser soaking... Rust remover soaking... Dental picks... Wire wheel... Been a process, this was about the halfway mark.....

Daisy Mae

They need to color the box blue!

Daisy Mae

* a 9 leaf front spring is a TT. * IF my 45 yr ago memory is correct, the difference between the 7 leaf car and the 9 leaf spring on my TT was the top and third leaf down...but that's memory, not on certainty...take with a grain of salt if you remove. * the U-bolt frame attachments, if the threads a...

Daisy Mae

That's what it's all about Mitch, ain't it?
Good on ya!

Daisy Mae

What a sad note.

As sad as this is, you must take solace with the gift you gave her. The smile on that lady's face speaks volumes. You gave her joy and the gift of living....that's priceless.

Daisy Mae

Just as an aside, USPS sucks right now, and anyone sending receiving should be patient. Further, I've had first class beat Priority. 2-3 day Priority is no longer 2-3 days, and nobody should believe it is. The only thing it buys you is tracking. I send stuff via Priority every week, and my average s...

Daisy Mae

Radius rods were interesting though. Like components of the front & rear axle, the forged forks are also Dodge. But stripping the paint I ran thru layers of black, slate blue, green and red. Apparently somebody liked to dress up Daisy periodically. Meanwhile, the torque tube only had black & green, ...

Daisy Mae

While the internals of the drive train are well worn from some obvious long use, the external components of the car are pristine. I'm used to descaling most every component, frame, springs, axles, etc,and dealing with heavily pockmarked metal. But not Daisy. All her externals, chassis to body are so...

Daisy Mae

Say it ain't so!!! The end of pics?? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

I love these posts!!

Daisy Mae

Yes please, with brass base ring!

Daisy Mae

There were two axle ratios provided on the TT... 7.25:1 or 5.17:1.... so, "slower than most"... most what? T cars... YES... the TT is MUCH slower than a car to enable to haul it's tonnage. Slower than most TT's? Depends on who has what axle ratio. I had a TT with the "fast" axle 5:1, and best I coul...

Daisy Mae

Wow. That was quite an honor... good on ya, Mate!

So few of that generation left...

Daisy Mae

When does the 5 year warranty begin??
; )

Daisy Mae

Hey John, Actually, I just bought her a year ago, and been going thru her one component at a time. The story given was that she was put to bed in 1935 and has never been driven since. Recently got the engine going, where the axle, whether freewheeling under power or by hand made no noise, and regard...

Daisy Mae

The only parts of the axle that are reusable are the housings, the torque tube, radius rods and U-joint.

Daisy Mae

Realized I hadnt posted this other wear point, at the driveshaft thrust bearing from all the flopping around...

Daisy Mae

Ya, I am amazed actually how this thing managed to stay together, but may explain why it was put to rest in 1935. The housings and torque tube/ball, radius rods and U-joint are pretty much all that's salvageable. The brake rods are even wore thru about 60/70% at the supports and the eyelets have ver...

Daisy Mae

Daisy was a March 14 build... her front spring was stamped 1913... pulled the rear spring, carries a Feb '14 stamp. IMG_20250419_121820.jpg There is another stamp, clearly - P 37... but with another leading stamp not fully clear... A? R? Anyone know what that stamp references?? IMG_20250419_121815.j...

Daisy Mae

Given all the cracks in the spool I considered it junk, but decided to press out the bearing sleeve anyway just to have a look see internally... yup... Just about another 2 piece of a 2 pc DS!
Cracks were deep, two major ones 60 degrees apart.

Daisy Mae

Carl sounds like he lived a good life, and provided great memories for many. I would have loved to have met him. I would have been right at his side seeking those hotdogs and milkshakes! Sounds exactly like how I map out trips!
Condolences to his family & friends.
RIP

Daisy Mae

The outer and inner axle rollers are just as worn out unfortunately.
Interesting how much difference between the left & right axle side though...
High & low for each roller
Right outer: .4975 - .4960
Right inner: .4975 - .4965
Left outer: .4960 - 4945
Left inner: .4960 - .4940

Daisy Mae

Timely topic.... as I'm in the process of rebuilding my '14 rear end.... curious about this topic too, particularly as to suggestions/ recommendations as to the different versions out there for a closed spool....

Daisy Mae

Ya, the rollers looked good, but trash so says the micrometer. Beyond that, the cage support pins are so wallowed out you can see the twist in the pic, but so ovaled out and thinned pins I'm surprised it was still intact. Looking to be all original never rebuilt, and showing it's age. Well, can't sa...

Daisy Mae

The DS rollers avg 0.553

Daisy Mae

Lots of bronze from the spider bushings glistening in the sludge! IMG_20250416_164909.jpg The one roller sleeve I pulled was cracked...not sure what would cause a sleeve to crack....excess heat?? Fnding lots of stress cracks in many components though.... I may have the outer shells professionally cl...

Daisy Mae

One axle I know for a fact is original.... IMG_20250416_135721.jpg The other axle has a stamping that's not quite clear... is it an H/R/B - C/G - S/8...????? Anyone know??? IMG_20250416_135714.jpg While I still had to press the axle gears off, they did show torsional wear given the keys and axle key...

Daisy Mae

Being an early style diff carrier, the halves were attached via stud/nut, not bolt. While the nuts were cottered (with bent wire), all 3 studs were loose allowing separation of the case. No doubt why Ford redesigned to bolts. I wondered why the nuts weren't wired together in series, but not sure the...

Daisy Mae

Still in the process of collecting parts... will be a total rebuild, new axle & drive shafts, gears, and all the fixin's...

But LOTS of cleanup to do that will keep me busy for a while....

Daisy Mae

The right side thrust bearing is a totally different design, appears to be steel, with a spiral lubrication channel. It too though has stress cracks... IMG_20250415_214816.jpg IMG_20250415_214825.jpg While the pins are intact (but worn), the steel washer locating holes are wallered out, so much so a...

Daisy Mae

Case split, of course the usual 110 yrs worth of sludge... IMG_20250415_213347.jpg The babbit thrust bearing was dissolved to sludge... obviously 100 yrs worth of water/acid doing their job... but... also had a big chunk broken and embedded in the sludge.... IMG_20250415_214045.jpg IMG_20250415_2140...

Daisy Mae

The spool unfortunately took a beating with all the flopping/banging around inside, as it has multiple cracks...

Daisy Mae

Pulled the driveshaft/torque tube.... The U-jount appears to actually be in pretty good shape, some wear, but no discernable slop, certainly not like what I pulled out of my TT...and no serious wear in the front bushing, at least not enough to reflect any wiggle/play in the driveshaft.... IMG_202504...

Daisy Mae

Continuing on with the restoration of the running gear, up next is the rear axle. Daisy has obviously seen a lot, had travelled across the US in '16, and must have been driven hard, as every time I dig into something she show's me she's hurtin all over. So, out she came... IMG_20250410_180305.jpg Sh...

Daisy Mae

Pulled the axle today. I don't even need to disassemble the thing to know the driveshaft thrust bearing is shot, simply looking at how chewed up the face of the 4th bearing is!!

Daisy Mae

I hadnt really wanted to take Daisy all the way down, but given the rebuild of the rear as well as the tranny, the tear down began yesterday. As good as the top side paint is on the fenders/running boards, the undersides however are pocked with lots of small rust bubbles. Given coastal salt air, tha...

Daisy Mae

John, ya I wondered about that too, or, given the pic was taken in front of a bank I considered the crash or other bank calamity.... but the death date being 22 predates both events...
Curious

Daisy Mae

What a curious sign about birth/death of the town....
Wonder about that story....

Daisy Mae

AAAAAAHHHHH...

That was like my TT!!
I miss it, but then don't miss it, just so slow, and was never able to install my Warford....

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