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by Rob
Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:48 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: THE HORSE IS DOOMED
Replies: 9
Views: 660

Re: THE HORSE IS DOOMED

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by Rob
Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: K N T
Replies: 8
Views: 791

Re: K N T

Great pics. Thank you for posting.
by Rob
Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Happy Birthday Mr. Dean William Yoder :)
Replies: 5
Views: 417

Re: FJ - Happy Birthday Mr. Dean William Yoder :)

Happy Birthday Dean. You’re the best, enjoy!
by Rob
Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: World War 1 Model Ts
Replies: 26
Views: 1518

Re: World War 1 Model Ts

Looks like 15 were built for testing (Ford 3 ton tank), with one making it to France for testing:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_3-Ton_M1918
by Rob
Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:52 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: World War 1 Model Ts
Replies: 26
Views: 1518

Re: World War 1 Model Ts

Ford built and tested WW 1 era light tanks, consisting of two T motors. I saw one survivor at the Fort Knox KY museum years ago. I don’t recall if any made it to Europe during the war. Click on the link to see testing footage: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0su1d3ad8qskznr/1917%20Military%20Ford%20Tanks....
by Rob
Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:33 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Research Has It’s Rewards
Replies: 6
Views: 581

Re: FJ - Research Has It’s Rewards

Jim, I believe this is the same Model K Carl Binner (RIP) TX, owned at one point. The smaller wheels with aftermarket demountable rims lead me to that conclusion. Mr. Binner bought the car in about 1955: E54179A0-67D3-4F3D-A0A8-4170B3B54E87.jpeg If these are the same Model K, the car was originally ...
by Rob
Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Research Has It’s Rewards
Replies: 6
Views: 581

Re: FJ - Research Has It’s Rewards

I think the placard needs updating. For one thing, 23 K’s remain (which btw is a good survival percentage for 1906-08 cars), 6 being roadsters. Secondly, of those remaining, 5 are in running condition and another is driveable, but in a museum. Thirdly........ https://www.dropbox.com/s/bw0qgxw3dprl9j...
by Rob
Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: WWI tanks
Replies: 5
Views: 823

Re: WWI tanks

Surviving Ford film link:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/NARAprodstorag ... 585a-d.mp4

Screenshot of tanks being tested:
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Also on the film clip:
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by Rob
Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old Ford (K) in scenic downtown Lincoln NE
Replies: 3
Views: 601

Re: Old Ford (K) in scenic downtown Lincoln NE

Bob, Yes, rides are always available. Give me a little advance notice and I may have it closer to Omaha. Julie’s parents live on a lake between Omaha and Lincoln, just off I-80. We often take it there during the summer. Both hips are doing great. Passed ten years this summer with the new knees. Hope...
by Rob
Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:44 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old Ford (K) in scenic downtown Lincoln NE
Replies: 3
Views: 601

Old Ford (K) in scenic downtown Lincoln NE

Beautiful weather yesterday, so we took the K out to a few local watering holes.

Dropbox link (1:22 mins):
https://www.dropbox.com/s/j2i51c7e5fvsk ... K.mp4?dl=0

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by Rob
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:40 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Henry Ford and the six cylinder, part 2
Replies: 4
Views: 474

Re: Henry Ford and the six cylinder, part 2

Thanks guys. I’m learning that it’s almost impossible to cover everything in a slideshow presentation that one is able with print. A good portion of the video covers Ford’s win and world record setting performance in the 24 hour race held at Detroit on June 21-22, 1907. Unfortunately, I don’t believ...
by Rob
Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:29 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Henry Ford and the six cylinder, part 2
Replies: 4
Views: 474

Henry Ford and the six cylinder, part 2

According to Rob. 8-) This is the second in what has become a three part slideshow of Henry Ford and the development of the six cylinder racer and Model K. The slideshow is about 30 minutes with 5 minutes of discussion after. Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/q7etmbwc5i96w01/Henry%20Ford%20and%20the%2...
by Rob
Wed Oct 07, 2020 11:11 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Closing In On The Mystery Of The 1904 Ford Model B Designer(s)
Replies: 23
Views: 1289

Re: FJ - Closing In On The Mystery Of The 1904 Ford Model B Designer(s)

Jim, My limited review of history reveals one thing, individuals sometimes aggrandize their contributions, or involvement. I don’t know if Oliver Barthel was so integrally involved in Henry Fords amazing early successes with both racers and automobiles. I do believe Henry Ford had an incredible abil...
by Rob
Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford Model K, according to Rob
Replies: 9
Views: 1080

Re: Ford Model K, according to Rob

Thanks guys. I hope to put on part two this week.
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by Rob
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:06 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Closing In On The Mystery Of The 1904 Ford Model B Designer(s)
Replies: 23
Views: 1289

Re: FJ - Closing In On The Mystery Of The 1904 Ford Model B Designer(s)

Oliver Barthel was brought in to address issues with the six cylinder racer motor that is the prototype for the Model K. The Model B evolved from a prototype air cooled four cylinder model Ford originally intended to bring out. There was a lot going g on in the design room in 1904, air cooled four c...
by Rob
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford Model K, according to Rob
Replies: 9
Views: 1080

Ford Model K, according to Rob

I presented this to our early Ford and Friends group. If you watch I hope you enjoy:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xgklxefmnvp0d ... 1.mp4?dl=0
by Rob
Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Took the old Ford to the winery Saturday night. Then lit the lamps and drove home.
Replies: 12
Views: 903

Re: Took the old Ford to the winery Saturday night. Then lit the lamps and drove home.

Thanks guys. Marty, I trimmed them straight across a day or two ago. They are old wicks but were saturated and seem to do a good job.
by Rob
Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Has anyone seen this type of “Ford” logo key before?
Replies: 2
Views: 482

Has anyone seen this type of “Ford” logo key before?

Interesting key on ebay, with #92 on it. Has anyone seen anything similar before?
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by Rob
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:16 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Took the old Ford to the winery Saturday night. Then lit the lamps and drove home.
Replies: 12
Views: 903

Re: Took the old Ford to the winery Saturday night. Then lit the lamps and drove home.

Thanks guys. Dave, that guy from Kansas ruined that brewery..... :lol: Speaking of an over 21 version. We went out yesterday afternoon and found the back deck of a 1907 Ford serves very well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1c5ravrqixlkwy8/End%20of%20the%20LIne%20.mp4?dl=0 8557DC00-8DF8-401F-B697-FE086D5A...
by Rob
Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:38 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Took the old Ford to the winery Saturday night. Then lit the lamps and drove home.
Replies: 12
Views: 903

Took the old Ford to the winery Saturday night. Then lit the lamps and drove home.

First evening we’ve had the lights lit. The winery was a good place to socially distance and enjoy a beautiful late summer evening. The last song we stayed for was “Ghost Riders in the Sky.” Thought that was a fitting theme for a gaslight drive. Dropbox link, just over 4 minutes: https://www.dropbox...
by Rob
Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:32 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: RIP. Charlie Shaver. Forum Member
Replies: 33
Views: 2765

Re: RIP. Charlie Shaver. Forum Member

Sad to hear. Charlie had incredible knowledge about T’s and several makes of cars. I always paid attention to what he wrote when identifying an unknown part or car. Rest In Peace.
by Rob
Fri Aug 07, 2020 5:34 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: More from the “Almost Tour” in Minnesota
Replies: 4
Views: 719

Re: More from the “Almost Tour” in Minnesota

Thanks guys. It’s great to see old friends again.
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by Rob
Fri Aug 07, 2020 10:34 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: More from the “Almost Tour” in Minnesota
Replies: 4
Views: 719

More from the “Almost Tour” in Minnesota

We’ve lost one car, but added several. Today (Friday) I believe we’re at 12 cars. Maybe 14 for tomorrow’s big run to Buffalo and back. We’ll be in New London at the American Legion later today if the rain lets up. Our Model T representation is up to four, 1914, 15 and 16, with a brass speedster join...
by Rob
Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:06 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: The “almost” tour
Replies: 13
Views: 1591

Re: The “almost” tour

Day three of the “half assed tour.” Tomorrow, on to Spicer and New London:”
by Rob
Sun Aug 02, 2020 11:17 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: The “almost” tour
Replies: 13
Views: 1591

Re: The “almost” tour

Michael, could we look Into it next year?
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by Rob
Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:59 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: The “almost” tour
Replies: 13
Views: 1591

The “almost” tour

A group of us decided to socially distance, and conduct as near a normal a tour as possible. We’re in Paynesville MN for a few days, replicating our Early Ford and Friends tours of the past. Tuesday it’s on to Spicer and a taste of what the New London to New Brighton offered in the past, with a few ...
by Rob
Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:59 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Alexander Y. Malcomson Erased From Ford Motor Company History
Replies: 8
Views: 1391

Re: FJ - Alexander Y. Malcomson Erased From Ford Motor Company History

Joseph,
That is an interesting read! I wonder if the family has any photos and/or documents from that period (1903-1910).

Bud,
Just dropped off a few things at the shop where the racer is. It’s almost together and ready for a test drive. Hopefully within a week or two. Hope all is well there.
by Rob
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:35 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Part 2, Ford v. Ferrari, MTT, July/August issue
Replies: 4
Views: 582

Part 2, Ford v. Ferrari, MTT, July/August issue

Natalie Weaver did a wonderful job editing and helping me put the second part of the story together. Part 1 covered the beginning of Ford’s racing program in 1910, when HF told lead engineer Joe Galamb he wanted a racer that would beat the fastest racer in the world at that time, the Blitzen Benz. P...
by Rob
Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Alexander Y. Malcomson Erased From Ford Motor Company History
Replies: 8
Views: 1391

Re: FJ - Alexander Y. Malcomson Erased From Ford Motor Company History

Wayne, Thank you, as always. Hope your summer is going well. I looked at a few saved files on Malcomson, and his fortunes take a tragic, almost tortured turn toward the end of his life. He and HF career and life paths definitely move in different directions following his sale of Ford stock in the su...
by Rob
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: FJ - Alexander Y. Malcomson Erased From Ford Motor Company History
Replies: 8
Views: 1391

Re: FJ - Alexander Y. Malcomson Erased From Ford Motor Company History

Models B and K are “near and dear” to my heart as an early Ford enthusiast. Personally (as many on this forum may recall), I’m not a believer in many “histories” regarding the two models, and Henry Ford’s relationship with them. I appreciate Jim’s interest in the Model B (as well as Kim’s work with ...
by Rob
Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old Time Speedster
Replies: 15
Views: 1675

Re: Old Time Speedster

Harold, thanks. Editor Natalie chose those pics, published courtesy of The Henry Ford. I’ve seen the racer up close, and it is a piece of art! Light, efficiently built, and big block Chebby sized motor. It beat the fastest racer in the world head to head. Wish it were on display at THF.
by Rob
Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:07 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old Time Speedster
Replies: 15
Views: 1675

Re: Old Time Speedster

Wayne,
It’s almost back together. Hopefully in the next week or two. It looks good, and hopefully will be better than ever. Thank you for asking. We had our second article in the other club magazine on the Ford specials, and I’ll post it at the end of the month. Hope all is well there,
Rob
by Rob
Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Old Time Speedster
Replies: 15
Views: 1675

Re: Old Time Speedster

Wayne, thank you for posting, and I don’t wish to contradict....... However, while researching other early Ford accessories (even after market accessories were advertised for the Ford Model B were marketed in 1906 and 07), it seems this style shocks were available for Fords, as well as other small c...
by Rob
Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:52 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1916 Coupelet Restoration
Replies: 14
Views: 1904

Re: 1916 Coupelet Restoration

Looks great Russ. Thank you for sharing, and please keep us posted as it comes together.
by Rob
Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: My 88th birthday June 21
Replies: 25
Views: 1894

Re: My 88th birthday June 21

Happy belated birthday Darel.
by Rob
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: K.D. driving one of the rarest Ford’s on the planet, 1905 Model B.
Replies: 9
Views: 1614

Re: K.D. driving one of the rarest Ford’s on the planet, 1905 Model B.

Kim, Thank you for sharing this journey with us. A few facts and figures to add. 500 Model B were produced, selling for $2,000. A few things to consider about the Model B. In 1904 and 05 when the B was designed and primarily sold, if a carmaker produced and sold over 100 cars per year, they were usu...
by Rob
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: K.D. driving one of the rarest Ford’s on the planet, 1905 Model B.
Replies: 9
Views: 1614

K.D. driving one of the rarest Ford’s on the planet, 1905 Model B.

Kim sent this video of his successful test drive of this early production (#51) Model B. Click on the link below to view his drive:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ffohhcozh9v64 ... B.MOV?dl=0

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by Rob
Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Trent Boggess Early Ford Database presentation
Replies: 5
Views: 935

Trent Boggess Early Ford Database presentation

Trent Boggess, college professor and early Ford historian, presented a discussion about his early Ford database. Trent located, and painstakingly tabulated the remaining Ford Motor Company production/shipping ledgers for early Ford cars, 1903 - 1909. Click on the link below to hear his explanation o...
by Rob
Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:22 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer
Replies: 17
Views: 2340

Re: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer

Gil, nice try.......... 8-) Susanne, the dual spark was with the motor/project. It’s similar to the one on the 410 cubic inch Ford Special racer at THF. I don’t know if it was with the motor originally, or found and added to the project at some point in time. Bud, the motor was balanced by Fawcett r...
by Rob
Mon Jun 08, 2020 6:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer
Replies: 17
Views: 2340

Re: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer

Stopped in today to check on a few things. Pics include the 09 style waterpump, magneto drive with dual spark Bosch mag and deflector shield over auxiliary exhaust ports:
by Rob
Sun Jun 07, 2020 9:09 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer
Replies: 17
Views: 2340

Re: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer

Thanks guys. Yes, Dave, amazing shop. I think I overheated the motor last summer, and there was scoring on the pistons and cylinder walls. Fortunately we were able to hone the cylinders, but needed new pistons. When Tony got into the motor, the crankshaft also didn’t turn well (videos below) and was...
by Rob
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:27 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer
Replies: 17
Views: 2340

About to be on the road again - 1910 Ford racer

Our 300 cu in motor is almost finished. Tony Schafers, lead instructor at our local college took on the motor after some damage last summer. This is how it looks now. Awaiting the headgasket, then back together and into the car. We’ve had tremendous support with this project, from Fawcett Restoratio...
by Rob
Sat May 30, 2020 3:20 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Model T Times article, “Before Ford vs. Ferrari”
Replies: 7
Views: 1115

Model T Times article, “Before Ford vs. Ferrari”

Natalie Weaver, editor and photographer for the Model T Times, helped me put the following article together, and it ran in last months T Times issue. This article is part one of two covering Henry Ford’s last, and arguably best pre world one racing efforts. In a nutshell, Henry Ford approached his l...
by Rob
Sat May 30, 2020 12:39 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.
Replies: 16
Views: 2362

Re: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.

Bob,
I think he put that in to see if you were paying attention. You get a gold star. 8-)

Trent had this slideshow prepared, and it is obviously a typo. I suspect he’ll read this and see it.
by Rob
Sat May 30, 2020 10:31 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.
Replies: 16
Views: 2362

1907 - 1909 Ford Model T prototype, courtesy of Trent B.

Last Thursday Trent Boggess presented his research into the first Model T, or T prototype, including the two lever, three pedal car. That’s right, two lever, three pedal. Trent has graciously allowed us to post his presentation. While the entire recording lasts two hours, the first hour consists pri...
by Rob
Sat May 30, 2020 10:19 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: For the Experts - Ford History
Replies: 7
Views: 1322

Re: For the Experts - Ford History

George, Darel and Bud, Trent Boggess put together a presentation on the first Model T, including prototypes. He delivered to a small group of us over Zoom a few days ago, and has given permission to post it, so this is a timely thread. I’ll start a new thread with his presentation. Better get some p...
by Rob
Fri May 29, 2020 9:40 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: For the Experts - Ford History
Replies: 7
Views: 1322

Re: For the Experts - Ford History

One last thing: 18844AA2-43B5-4812-8A28-686C547D2918.jpeg Landaulet, Ford, Model NRS style waterpump, with Model T style shoulders and tank on the radiator. Right hand drive, and it doesn’t look like it has the large T style transmission. I think it also has NRS style high low lever on the right of ...
by Rob
Fri May 29, 2020 9:35 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: For the Experts - Ford History
Replies: 7
Views: 1322

Re: For the Experts - Ford History

Things I know and think I know. This October 1907 Motor World article describes the early Model T prototype in some detail. One interesting sentence in the article (bottom of second paragraph, first page) reads “an advance view of them was afforded a Motor World man by Mr. Ford himself.” In other wo...
by Rob
Tue May 26, 2020 12:05 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford history questions
Replies: 60
Views: 6241

Re: Ford history questions

Greg,
I’m referring to Ford’s first magneto and dual ignition system, standard to the Ford six (Model K).
by Rob
Tue May 26, 2020 11:08 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford history questions
Replies: 60
Views: 6241

Re: Ford history questions

Lots of good comments and information in this thread. Thank you all for posting. A few points (take them for what they are worth..... 8-) ) Ed Huff collaborated with Henry Ford to design one of the most unique ignition/magneto systems ever invented. In fact, the likes of it wouldn’t be seen again on...
by Rob
Sun May 17, 2020 2:18 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Thursday’s Piquette presentation, Early Ford and Friends
Replies: 6
Views: 979

Re: Thursday’s Piquette presentation, Early Ford and Friends

John, we hope to make it down under in the next few years.
by Rob
Sun May 17, 2020 1:37 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Thursday’s Piquette presentation, Early Ford and Friends
Replies: 6
Views: 979

Re: Thursday’s Piquette presentation, Early Ford and Friends

John, so good to hear from you. I hope to see you again in your homeland or here. It was a good gathering, and Steve is a great ambassador for Piquette. Take care old friend.
by Rob
Sat May 16, 2020 11:10 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Model T’s in the movies.
Replies: 20
Views: 1779

Re: Model T’s in the movies.

It’s pre-T, but a beautiful 1908 Model S Roadster appears in the opening scene of “Meet Me In St. Louis,” staring Judy Garland in the early 40’s. Never mind the movie was set in 1903 and 1904 leading up to the 1904 Worlds Fair: https://youtu.be/70T47mC-jxY 62CC9772-ED68-447D-9129-F4BB7640604D.jpeg
by Rob
Sat May 16, 2020 9:56 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Thursday’s Piquette presentation, Early Ford and Friends
Replies: 6
Views: 979

Thursday’s Piquette presentation, Early Ford and Friends

Many thanks to Steve Shotwell, President of the Piquette BOD, along with several other Piquette friends and board members for this virtual description of future developments at FMC Piquette Avenue Plant. Steve enthusiastically agreed to give a virtual talk to our early Ford and Friends Thursday afte...
by Rob
Tue May 05, 2020 9:41 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.
Replies: 16
Views: 2123

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Thanks John. Hope the “other” pics don’t detract. With that said, I think the first pic in your last post may include a Model K roadster: 1903B2CB-9BDF-43AA-833A-E14916B0015E.jpeg I flipped a pic of our K because it was the closest angle compared with the car to the left in the photo you posted: B4A...
by Rob
Mon May 04, 2020 7:33 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.
Replies: 16
Views: 2123

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Dan, Cecil Church (RIP) cloned an S/T touring years ago (about 1976). I believe it was on the cover of the Ford Times (could be wrong). I saw the car a few years ago, and it is a beautiful recreation. Ford Motor Company audit records indicate Ford produced three Model T and two Laund (laundelet/town...
by Rob
Sun May 03, 2020 9:49 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.
Replies: 16
Views: 2123

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Wayne, that’s not the half of it......... 8-) In early 1904 Ford shows a Ford coupe, along with his first four cylinder production car, air cooled (that didn’t make it to regular production): D8198FBB-2E0B-47F0-8CEF-D54607460BC0.jpeg And in August 1904, the “Physicians Ford;” 5C57903A-7158-40F0-94B1...
by Rob
Sun May 03, 2020 8:37 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.
Replies: 16
Views: 2123

Re: Ford Model K - Christian F. Weeber, Jr.

Wayne, not to hijack this Weeber thread, but some of the Ford coupe pics from previous articles. First, a 1907 Coupe version, appearing on a Model N chassis (step plate, not Model R running board), with both bodies included for $850: 4FB1FD3C-3908-4D4D-A7F3-B9D442DFF4CF.jpeg Early 1908 Coupe ad, on ...
by Rob
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:26 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 8,000 miles in 1907.
Replies: 3
Views: 737

Re: 8,000 miles in 1907.

Thanks Wayne. Gil, to further put the costs into context, a dollar in 1907 was about the equivalent of about $25 today. That makes the average cost to own the Ford N would equal about $13,700 per year. Not bad, but still significant.

The times were changing.................
by Rob
Sun Apr 26, 2020 10:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 8,000 miles in 1907.
Replies: 3
Views: 737

8,000 miles in 1907.

I find it interesting how many miles early automobile owners drove. This Ford advertisement appeared in a Scranton newspaper in early 1907, and makes the argument that a Ford Model N will save both time and money for distance traveled. One of the many points include using an average of 8,000 miles i...
by Rob
Fri Apr 24, 2020 9:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Thanks guys. Wayne, I agree, cars must have been a game changer. The world was changing rapidly, with phones, well run railroads, an infant road system and conveniences like electricity and gas available in many cities. However, it’s good to remember, more than half the population lived in rural are...
by Rob
Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:05 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Thanks Mark, looks like quite an impressive car. Too bad it appears to be in a permanent mausoleum, but good it’s able to be “viewed.” The Jones returned from their early 1911 five month tour of the Holy Land and Europe. They took an automobile and chauffeur with them, motoring through Europe. Unfor...
by Rob
Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:59 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Mark, if you’d like, please post a photo of the Lozier at your office building. They must be an incredibly rare car. Thanks for posting. 1910 comes and goes. First with a “trip around the world:” 39B86F11-3E76-4331-ADB1-48D72CAB3DDB.jpeg And we learn of two more Jones auto acquisitions: F45934CB-A07...
by Rob
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: I'm back on the road.
Replies: 10
Views: 1491

Re: I'm back on the road.

Welcome back from knee replacement. I’m on year 10 of both. I’ve never regretted having it done (ok, maybe since about week four or five). :shock:
by Rob
Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:24 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Tim Wrenn's 1913 Touring Wins Gilmore Award
Replies: 15
Views: 1564

Re: Tim Wrenn's 1913 Touring Wins Gilmore Award

TIM, that’s great! Outstanding car!
by Rob
Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:46 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Wayne, thank you for the good info on Mobile and early steam cars. And I agree, early motorists often took on long journeys, sometimes covering one up to two hundred miles in a day. The Jones continue to enjoy their automobiles through 1908, touring eastern states and attending the Vanderbilt Cup Ra...
by Rob
Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:30 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Perry, I have to try to interject a little suspense....... :roll: As it turns out, the Franklin doesn’t last long. In fact, less than two months: F200D87C-E715-4FB6-BFDD-D7447F436EEF.jpeg Time to own a “real six cylinder car:” BC087DA0-84E4-48DD-8EB7-C0F147E849E4.jpeg Almost from the start, our Ford...
by Rob
Mon Apr 20, 2020 2:16 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Before 1906 ends, and into 1907, one more automobile for the Jones, an imported C.G.V: E3E29662-5505-40F9-9305-5B2D962DB24E.jpeg E4C7F81A-6E38-473C-BF0A-A8BB6624A17B.jpeg Meanwhile, the Scranton Ford dealer Conrad Bros. places one of the largest orders for Fords for 1907, 50 Model N and 10 Model K: ...
by Rob
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

The Jones son, Harry and his wife visit the summer home, driving his “big Pierce touring car,” of course: 465BE7F6-99A7-4373-AAE8-25370AE7323E.jpeg During the fall of 1906, the Jones embark on a tour to Maine and the New England, driving their Pierce Arrow: DC7F1523-4B99-4F39-A990-3187C6106F0C.jpeg ...
by Rob
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

1906 is another big year of motoring for the Jones. We learn Cyrus has purchased a Pierce, and is in the market for a limousine: BC7EC06A-0232-4BA5-ABD5-E3D36683DD34.jpeg Within a week, the paper reports the Jones have found their limo, a 45 hp Pierce Arrow: F25ADEE5-C570-42BA-BB89-46DCFFA5F6E6.jpeg...
by Rob
Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:31 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Re: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

In 1902, the Jones have purchased a Winton: 71B33A8E-C60B-4BFA-9086-24226A5B9EC8.jpeg And by early 1903, they add another Winton: 234D6E1C-AAB8-46A7-B997-3C21F68F3653.jpeg D71AAAD9-7494-4405-BAA1-AD72609E08EC.jpeg In 1905, C. D. Jones has added a $6,000 Mercedes to his stable. In todays dollars, thi...
by Rob
Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:15 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.
Replies: 16
Views: 2199

Next time someone says you have too many cars, point them to this thread.

Cyrus D. Jones was one of the wealthiest citizens of Scranton PA at the turn of the last century. 06A1A7B2-C9E8-4F5B-A854-ABF5534E21A6.jpeg Jones along with his brother started the Grand Union Tea Company, that would expand with stores and sales throughout the country: 028630A6-7F5F-48B7-85F1-468B87...
by Rob
Sat Apr 18, 2020 9:51 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: The oldest Ford speedster?
Replies: 5
Views: 930

Re: The oldest Ford speedster?

This is my candidate for “first Ford speedster.” Heyward Shannon, a young Princeton graduate, bought one of the first Model K Fords in 1906. This photo shows he and his wife and friends driving one of the first Model K. The “humpback” radiator give it away as one of the first dozen or so Model K sol...
by Rob
Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: The oldest Ford speedster?
Replies: 5
Views: 930

Re: The oldest Ford speedster?

Tim, good photo, and choice. One might call Sweepstakes, 999/Arrow and this racer the first Ford speedsters. If the “first” designation goes to a production Ford converted to sport/racing configuration, I have another to offer. It’ll take a bit to find the file (that’s on another ipad charging as we...
by Rob
Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:54 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: The oldest Ford speedster?
Replies: 5
Views: 930

The oldest Ford speedster?

Thanks to contributions from Mark Herdman, Bob Trevan and Andrew Brand, John Williams and others from “down under,” we keep piecing together more information about this New Zealand Ford Six (Model K) converted to a speedster. First, Andrew just sent this photo of the New Zealand speedster: ED794A33-...
by Rob
Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:09 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: 2016, the return from Lansing to Dearborn.
Replies: 1
Views: 472

2016, the return from Lansing to Dearborn.

The conditions were dreadful, and the two largest and most powerful cars headed back to Dearborn from Lansing early. We had to stop to light the lamps. The late Tim Kelly, wife Joan along with Kim and Dave Shadduck made the trip in our Ford Ks. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mosxiowgsgz9uqu/Video%20Sep%2...
by Rob
Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:03 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Sometime in late 1909 or early 1910, Henry Ford wanted one more shot!
Replies: 1
Views: 698

Sometime in late 1909 or early 1910, Henry Ford wanted one more shot!

Before the Model T, Henry Ford built, and drove the fastest racer in the world. Let that sink in a little. By 1910, he was building more autos than any manufacturer in the world. And he wanted one more shot. He wanted his Model T to beat the fastest car the world had ever known. And this racer would...
by Rob
Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:36 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: More cabin fever. Four Model K break into line at pass in review.
Replies: 7
Views: 1111

More cabin fever. Four Model K break into line at pass in review.

A sight not often seen. Four Ford Model K break into pass in review at Old Car Festival.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hm1rct3cdzulk ... M.mov?dl=0

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by Rob
Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Henry Ford as we’ve seldom seen him
Replies: 11
Views: 1674

Re: Henry Ford as we’ve seldom seen him

Richard, the prototype tractor HF is operating used a 1905 Ford Model B motor, Model K radiator and front axle. I believe the photo was taken at Ford’s farm, and two Model K can be seen partially tucked into the open front shed in the background.

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by Rob
Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Henry Ford as we’ve seldom seen him
Replies: 11
Views: 1674

Re: Henry Ford as we’ve seldom seen him

Thanks Kim. It’s amazing that Henry Ford kept one of his prototype tractors. Hard to believe he was experimenting with tractor/farm implements at the same time he was ramping up to become the largest auto maker in the world with introduction of the K/N/R/S and designing the Model T. He certainly did...
by Rob
Sun Apr 05, 2020 10:44 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Henry Ford as we’ve seldom seen him
Replies: 11
Views: 1674

Henry Ford as we’ve seldom seen him

From Ford News clips. This is one of many FMC production films at the National Archives. Ford began filming news shorts that were distributed to theaters around the country, beginning in 1915. Henry Ford cutting down a tree, playing with grandchild(?), plowing with tractor, and arriving at a steam e...
by Rob
Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:39 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cabin fever is setting in. The Good, Bad and Ugly-early Fords in PA two years ago
Replies: 5
Views: 900

Re: Cabin fever is setting in. The Good, Bad and Ugly-early Fords in PA two years ago

Nice to hear from all of you. I first met Tim at the Early Ford Tour at Paynesville MN, preceding the New London to New Brighton tour years ago. He had his Model K and offered me a ride. Within seconds we were effortlessly cruising down the highway at 55 mph, and I said “I thought these cars weren’t...
by Rob
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cabin fever is setting in. The Good, Bad and Ugly-early Fords in PA two years ago
Replies: 5
Views: 900

Re: Cabin fever is setting in. The Good, Bad and Ugly-early Fords in PA two years ago

Wayne, Thank you. Tim was passionate about the cars, their history, and the many friends he had in the hobby. He was especially kind with youngsters, and a great ambassador for our cars with young people. I posted this video in the summer of 2018. I’m slowly rolling through old video and posting the...
by Rob
Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:13 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Cabin fever is setting in. The Good, Bad and Ugly-early Fords in PA two years ago
Replies: 5
Views: 900

Cabin fever is setting in. The Good, Bad and Ugly-early Fords in PA two years ago

To my good friend the late Tim Kelly. Three Model K, an 09 T, 08 Silver Ghost, lot’s of great cars and incredible tour: Click on the link to see the dropbox video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rdm9z8gegemc81v/Video%20May%2028%2C%209%2013%2023%20PM.mov?dl=0 8CAE0D60-D27C-4D5D-88FD-238115B3D5A4.jpeg B0E7...
by Rob
Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:19 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: N/R/S race cars?
Replies: 7
Views: 1310

Re: N/R/S race cars?

Another.......... 1908 Ford Model S Roadster stripped of fenders and hood: 34AC7927-30B9-4DBB-BCEA-9F8801984C0C.jpeg 63575830-B7AC-4297-8994-E8ECE78F7F93.jpeg Full article: 30BB7663-9544-4225-B4EF-08F2D02C48C8.jpeg On the same page, the Ford dealer was quick to advertise: C24F0C4B-CFC6-42FD-AF83-DE6...
by Rob
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:36 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Not a Chebby
Replies: 1
Views: 486

Not a Chebby

I’ve played this before, but we’re home “sheltering in place” with two octogenarians and one teenager, so time for distractions.... The 300 cubic inch racer to Chebby music last summer. Click on the link to see the video on Dropbox. If you watch it, just imagine a motor almost the size of a Chebby s...
by Rob
Sat Apr 04, 2020 10:18 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Baseball and a Model N
Replies: 7
Views: 1093

Re: Baseball and a Model N

Thank you for posting, great pic. The photo says 1906, and the N looks to me like an earlier (06) model, with higher “shoulders” radiator and bale (bail?) handled sidelamps. If it is an 06, it’s one of only 1200 made, as Ford wasn’t able to get their N’s to market until July, with the model and fisc...
by Rob
Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:45 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer
Replies: 23
Views: 2212

Re: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer

Tim, yes, I believe that’s the 228 motor mentioned. I hope someday someone finds more drawings, to better differentiate the racers. Scott, I had not thought of the the “pipe” idea from the drawing. I believed all along that it’s either the faceplate, as tim point to above (red arrow), or the facepla...
by Rob
Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:29 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer
Replies: 23
Views: 2212

Re: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer

Jerry, “ In other words, it's a trim piece and nothing "structural".” Obviously it’s not structural. Also, it’s not sealing or containing liquid. I think it’s a faceplate/flange for either the exhaust pipe, which must exit the “dashtank””,” or part of the top of the dashtank. What I know is this is ...
by Rob
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:15 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: N/R/S race cars?
Replies: 7
Views: 1310

Re: N/R/S race cars?

Leo, Abraham Lincoln would have been 98 years old at the time these Ford’s ran in the 24-hour race. I’m often surprised to find civil war veterans of both sides driving our early Fords and other pre-war cars. It puts things in perspective and demonstrates the ties our cars and we have with events th...
by Rob
Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:45 am
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer
Replies: 23
Views: 2212

Re: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer

Thanks again for all the educated guesses and ideas. The few things I know, and think I know........... It appears only the M-III had the “dashtank.” I’m still suspicious as to why this opening used wood screws, and only 4 at that, to attach it to whatever material the structure was made of. There a...
by Rob
Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:53 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer
Replies: 23
Views: 2212

Re: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer

I don’t know. I wish there was more information, but there isn’t. As a result, we are speculating. I’m only able to go with what little I know. This doesn’t appear to be a viable “nozzle” point. It is listed as M-III, a specific application. That’s why I posted it. Thanks for all your ideas, Rob
by Rob
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:58 pm
Forum: General Discussion Forum (started 2019)
Topic: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer
Replies: 23
Views: 2212

Re: Need help reading part drawing on a Ford racer

Thanks guys. On these drawing, no signature, date or title blocks. The only identifier is the “M” and Roman numeral identifier. Having the advantage of seeing all that exist in a box at Benson Library, I know the “M-III” is the 300 cubic engine racer. You all have have great information and ideas. I...