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However - I've seen flywheels with no drilling but which where not balanced to the precision we can do today. One explanation can be that the magnets most likely was not put back in the same order.

Regarding timing: Remember that when running on magneto, the ignition point is NOT set by the timer but by the magnets and coilring. They produce 16 potential sparks per revolution and the timer selects which of the 16 points are actually used. At least it is so for most timers. The ones like the Ed...

FWIW - I do not think Ford balanced the flywheel until relatively late in the era. The first T flywheel I did was a 1927 engine which had some drillings (I have had all the magnets off and not marked them to put them back the same places). The one on the pictures above is from a march 1925 with no d...

Arrived here in Denmark, Europe yesterday.

Maybe it's time to make the Danish Model T club a chapter of this club as well.....
I'll read the Manual.

Which made me think - does this club have a set of bylaws? If yes, where do I find them?
Edit: In above manual!

A wheel is a wheel and I have now balanced 3 flywheels in a regular wheel balancing machine with succes. Here is the latest. 2020-08-05 13.15.27.jpg alignment controlled: 2020-08-05 13.44.31.jpg Of course the scale is not correct and you must remember when it says to add 5 grammes you should REMOVE ...

: Merry Christmas from Denmark

MKossor wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:04 pm
An interesting benefit of operating on Magneto is the magneto voltage increases as engine RPM increases so the coil dwell time to fire spark decreases (Advances spark) as the engine RPM increases.

...and I wonder if Henry and Edison was aware of that positive side effect?

Thank you! Very thorough answer worth waiting for! Now the design team (that's also me) will go in action!

Today’s store brand oil from WalMart, Auto-Zone , the dollar store and etc is a vast improvement from what was available in the 20’s and 30’s. 10w-30 works fine in Texas. 10w-30 is basicly a SAE 10 oil with additives that make it act as a SAE 30 oil at 100 C, so kold it's even thinner than the mono...

Apologies if proof for what SAE quality was intended by Ford back in the the day have been brought here before - given that SAE system for specifying was first established in the early 1930's (as far as I have been able to Google), but I hve just found what I will call a smoking gun! A booklet from ...

Hi, I'm considering to 3D print a parabolic mirrors for my newly acuired J&B 66 headlamps, but I could use some dimensions of the original glass mirrors. Outer diameter Height of mirror when placed face down on a flat surface. A picture (or drawing) of how the mirror is mounted in the back of the he...

Darin Hull wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:06 pm
Mark, is overcharging the battery a concern with a diode?

Yes. You still have to choose a charging level with the 3rd brush.

Dan McEachern wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:38 am
As long as you never break an axle!

Put modern axles in that they have better resistance towards fatigue.

That diagram was nice!

Thank you all.

Hi,
I received my headligths from Ross Benedict and they look great.

During assembly of the burner, I am in doubt what is the correct position of the "Y":

I believe "A" is the right?

Thanks! It hot pipe is also modified for adaption I can see and that was what confused me with the one I have.

Years back, when I had rebuild the engine in my 1922 Fordor it was so tight, that we decided to pull it. We managed to get it up from the basement and on the road and away we drove. Fairly quickly it fired right up, and then I signalled to the driver in the pulling vehicle just to realise that I had...

I have bought a new repro hot air pipe of the 19 - 23 type but I have issues fitting it on the engine.

Can any kind soul with such version mounted on the car? Particular how it fit with the bolt that holds the clamp to hold the manifold.

Thanks in advance!

HalSched wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:50 pm
Do both...Glue and Screw

Not a good idea. The glue will still risk to break the wood as the body is ment to flex with the frame.

We also used to have various local clubs in Denmark. A nationwide, F.D.M., was formed also in 1909 and it still exist. It did have badges, but today the most sought relique is there radiator ornaments, which came in several sizes for motorcycles over Model Ts to Auburn, Lincolns and Rolls-Royces. FD...

;-) I tried to search here in this forum, but not in the old ones and found nothing. That lead me to speculate if you where member here. I just shows one have to be very ceareful when using Google or other seach mechanisms. They will go on this car: 2020-06-22 19.51.36.jpg The "66" lamps you see are...

Thanks guys. I was dealing with him about a pair of "66" headlamps for my 1914 Model T and with shipping and all the pricetag ends up in 900+ USD, so I asume it's OK that I do a little background check. The chat I had gave an impression of Ross that fits what you write above. And Ross, if you see th...

A guy called Ross Benedict have had ads in several groups on facebook for restored/rebuild B&J 66 headlamps for for example 1914 Model T.
The price is as it is, but before I deal with this guy I just want to do a sanity check on how he is do deal with - if anybody knows him.

Thanks in advance.

I know many of you see "organisations" as derived from communism :-) but that is exactly why we have FIVA - the international organisations of ancient vehicle clubs. They are not that strong in the US, but in Europe they have a lobbyist running at the ailes of Bruzelles making sure that the EU does ...

I am researching how a particular part evolved over the years. Doing that in the encyclopedia browsing through the years means that you have to go back to the menu in order to go to the next year. It would be nice if the top of the page when watchine for example year "1917" have an left arrow with y...

I 2016 I signed 2 of my Ts in to a tour and invited my kids to drive with me. There was just the aber dabei that one of them would have to drive the one of them. Cecilie grap the thrown glove and put 400 km (250 mi.) on her T milage that weekend after a weeks practice each evening up to the tour. VT...

Steve,
there is a guy here in Denmark that make them, but.....

What19.000 for a 1914 is maybe a pricetag that will limit the interest to those really in for an all original.
I paid 22.000 for my 1914 back in november 19 and that is an fairly original but restored 20 years ago I think.

Is the clutch the original steel plates only or a modern? I think modern.
Are you sure the band don't slip when in low?

Hi Chris,

Danish tested and it looks good.

I know there are folks from Sweden as well, but most Scandinavian have no big issues (unless they are over 60 - 70

) with reading english.

I've announced the initiative in the Danish Model T clubs Facebook group.

OK - I also put the question up on Facebook and got the reply: Most likely 23" for a 14, but best would be to take a string around the pulleys and meassure.

My ventilator belt broke. Apparently it's not a straight forward task to order a new, as they come in many lengths. What would be a proper length for a 1914 Model T? They come from 23" to 36".

I've recently bought a 1914 Model T touring, and I have just driven it a little bit (preparing it for MOT so no licenseplates yet). When starting it cold, I turn up the mixture 1/4 turn, pull 2 times with choke, switch on the battery, in which case it actually normally tries a free start (!), and th...

I missed the webinar, but have seen the recording at Youtube! Great idea and surely something that can be used.

I missed this, but that is a very good idea eventually to make some webinars as we from abroad may not be able to come to Chickasha nor Hersey evey year to say hello to fellow members of MTFCA.
I'll take a look on the Youtube dump of the session.

I have a question that the early Ford guys or brass guys may know the answer for. I have searched the old forums and I can see that the question have been raised before but never really answered: Why do brass era taillight have this blue/green lens towards left? In UK with RHD the glasses are mirror...

Guys, do not underestimate this and do NOT compare with H1N1. Given that most around here is in the danger zone for having to be hospitalized and even in the ICU we should all take our precautions and stop social contact. Stans idea going back to the shop is a good idea :-) It's not that people will...

In modern times these reflectors are rather atrractive as they allows you to make your headlight more compliant with current regulations.

Only for you guys in the US. In EU we wait until March 29. Working in a company (IBM) where we do have meeting with collegues in the US, making that work will be a bigger challenge for some weeks.

Ordered together with some club clothing.

Have ordered diverse items for my newly acquired 1914 touring in order to pass inspection. In Denmark we must have flashers and stoplight, so I am preparing to extend the wiring for that. In the meantime, I managed to get the sidelamps fixed with new wigs and fresh kerosene and here is the test: 202...

Make sure the bands are actually round so that all the movement goes to press towards the drum, and not make it fit the drum. If not round it will also drag somewhat. I used a roller to make it true round.

Now the question was about 12 Volt and Steves setup is for 6 Volt and the lamp is for 6 Volt as well. Have anyone adapted this very simple setup for 12 Volt? The lamp need to be another, but have anyone found which?

So Master Jelff - I have now uploaded a couple of oictures of my 3 Model T's.

Have I passed?

Hm - it could look like one should start saving up money for a visit to this years OCF.....

If you are not member of the AACA but knows one who are, now is the time to ask to borrow the latest issue of Antique Automobile club magasine. Rob have written an articly about his red Ford Model K and Model K in general. No big surpises if you have followed his work over the years digging in the a...

Riveted the driveshaft to the brakedrum for my 1921 Pick-up (with 1926/27 gear) and made it run square. 2020-02-16 17.27.00.jpg Heating the rivets. 2019-12-27 15.04.02.jpg Hammering the rivet.... 2020-02-16 16.11.02.jpg Checking for trueness - we used a "clock" to measure - then the drum was slightl...

I wish I could be there, but I have obligations with an exhibition we have here in Denmark that weekend.

DHort wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:56 pm
Are you putting the Fordor out to pasture?

No David! I now have 3 T's and it stay that way for a while.

Thats some cranking device you've got there!

Maybe it's my bad eyes, but it looks to me in Steve's video that the pin is loose in the flywheel and is moving with the triple gear when Steve wiggles it. :? That is exactly the issue! The pin is loose in the flywheel. @Steve, it looks like a new flywheel! It may retire for use in a HCCT though. (...

The old software made issues for the hosting company when the Forum became to big. Hence it's splitting up per year. The current Forum software is one of te mainstream forum software that do not have that issue, so I asume it just continue. That will also make searching and picking up old threads ea...

Brass is for decorative purposes, bronce are also for bearing purposes.

HA! You have just found the danish manufacturer/dealers nameplate! I havn't noticed that before! Løwener_Skilt.jpg No numbers or identification. I've tried to find the logo: W. Løwener_Logo.jpg The figure in the middle is a lion in front of what probably back then was their main product - a lathe. T...

Nobody else that want to chime in?

2010 Pizza party aftermath:

Aiiiii - you really drop salt in the wound that I'm not able to join you since I'm engaged in a major car show in Denmark that weekend.
@Steve, are those pictures from 2010? I was there in 2010 and took pictures (too?):

FWIW - my danish HCCT do not have any numbers or any markings at all, neither brassplates or holes after such.

Frontview:

Detail view of instrument face (all danish text - made by/delivered by HM = Helweg Mikkelsen, a major danish instrument/gauge maker.

I would realy love to come back one last time to join the Chickasha swap meet (was there in 2010), but unfortunately we have the major classic carshow in Denmark that weekend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXMGAnyYoog

Good point, Dan.

Hi, disassembling my broke transmission I discovered that the rivets in the brakedrum was loose. So I got a friend of mine experienced with both hot and cold rivetting as well as general machining to help me. I'm pretty satisfied with the result... 2019-12-27 17.09.23.jpg (Yes, I know I have work to...

Holyday greetings from Denmark:

Next year I'll have to do a new picture as this little beauty will be added to the flock:

Greetings from Denmark!

All, thanks for all the good advice. I have a buddy who are familiar with rivetting - hot and cold and we will obviously go with cold. Oversize rivets are ordered and picked up tomorrow together with new bushings for various shafts. J & M - I do not have access to Magnaflux, but will clean up the dr...

Thanks Wayne, after I made my post, I googled and found this old thread.

Hi, my 1921 Pick-ups gearbox have "collapsed" by most likely use of incorrect material for the triple gear bushings, so that it have had severe wear resulting in broken teeth and then total failure when the broken teeth ended up in the mesh. I have obtained another good set of drums and triplegears ...

Hi, on my 1922 Model T a previous owner have exchanged the original all-steel starting crank with the older one with a nice aluminium handle. It's much better to use for hand cranking, so I want one for my 1921 Model T as well - if I can find one to a decent price. model-t-start-crank-1913.jpg And d...

The recommended way, where you first mount the rivets at the upper end and have a bulge at the bottom that you straighten out once the rivets are in place, will ensure that the band sits tight to the band. I can fear you dont get that with the shown method. I also takes my bands through a pair of ro...

We expect some snow Saturday.

Hi, Take a look at this short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFvdphz9utc (Im speaking danish, but I say it's bad that the rivets are loose) Can I save this by trying to heat the rivets individually (somehow) and hammer them so when they cool it will be tight again? Or what does one do? (Apar...

That transmission is not a 1912 transmission, but a 1926-1927.

More news stories, but basicly no news: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10270793/ ... ash-lorry/

After the troubles with the Selden patent, Henry Ford saw (others) patents as a way to put roadblocks for his enterprise. Hydrailic brakes was patended in 1922 +/- and lasts 17 year so that is why hydrailic brakes first arrived in 1939. And regarding the trembler coils - why change something that wo...

I will not see the car until Christmas, but I've seen reports that the car runs fine. I have no reasons to doubt that, I just want to learn why someone in the past have swapped the "original" Holley with this.

Stan, I just bought a 1914 Touring with that type of carburator. Do you have any knowledge of it's qualities? Why was it popular of the day? Ecconomic? Easy starting?

OK, maybe I should have Googled before I asked

https://modeltfordfix.com/forum/viewtop ... t=10#p1571

Can anyone shed some light on what carburator this is? It is sitting on a 1914 Touring that I have bought

This is now bound for Denmark - don't ask how I know.....

Depending on my financial situation, my ability to get cheap tickets and accomodation etc. I might just show up again. I was there in 2010 and loved the event.
Might even try to persuade some of these danish T'ers to join me.

He have posted in the new forum, so he's not lost in transition

Latest entry October 3rd (as of today)

memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=60

Yeah, maybe. For now I'm considering Chikascha 2020 to say proper good bye. I was there in 2010. It's not just a few cents to go to the US from Denmark, so travels must be planned carefully.

What is "over the top"?

Susan, please pass my regards from Denmark to the folks. I know that at least 2 from last year is in Hershey now, namely Steve Jelf and Seamus Michael Hnat. I'm not in Hershey this year, though I know at least 20 - 30 danes are wandering around the ailes this year too (several was in Carisle last we...

Nice car! No acetylen generator?

Do you have any idea what performance the engine have in horsepowers?

You have to be careful here! First I can only recommend you US guys to support FIFA, the international organisation for clubs for historic vehicles. In Europe they have managed to be accepted by the EU legislation bodies and we have so far managed reasonable conditions in Europe. In the individual c...

Hm - maybe OCF is where the US trip should go in 2020? Now it seems all the chaps shows up there these days.....
(Enjoyed meeting folks at Hershey last year at the Forum get together)

Well, to some extend its the same story as with driving and owning our cars. If you are not inclusive, you may scare those that might be interested in taking over the business over time.
For Model T there is a market of say 150.000 world wide. That should be interesting enough.

Of my two model T's, the pick-up truck is the one to experiment with as it does not have much history before 1963, where it was build out of a frontend of a 1919 non-starter touring and a 1921 rolling chassis. On both my T's I have Holley NH carburators and they are generally working OK. However, ev...

Rebuild the coilbox for my Pick-up with Fun Projects plastic inserts. 2019-08-10 17.26.58.jpg Porcelain tubes cleaned with dishwashing soap and a brush. 2019-08-10 17.26.40.jpg All bolt soldered to the bronze springs. 2019-08-10 17.26.26.jpg Terminals soldered to the leads 2019-08-10 17.35.13.jpg Le...

I've rebuild my coilbox and now I've found out that along the way I have lost 2 of the nuts used for mounting the cables. You can see they are missing on this picture and which it is:

What size are they? As it seems you can only buy complete sets at the vendors.

Denmark:
Ford T Klubben, Danmark - http://www.modelt.dk/ - have just had their 40 years aniversary (but it's roots go back to the 1950's)

Sweden:
Svenska T-Ford klubben - http://stfk.se/ - since 1955

The UK manufactured Model T's from 1925 and onwards where 3" lower than the US siblings. That was obtained by geometry in the frontaxle and also in the frame. US adopted some, but not all of these changes in the 26-27 improved Ford. There is a book published by the UK Model T Register that tells the...

Tuckett Brothers in England would be a good starting point for parts. www.modeltford.co.uk I believe " https://www.veterandele.dk " in Denmark may be even better as they are closer (and who knows how cumbersome dealing with UK may be if Brexit? Even though Norway is not in EU they are very closely ...

As being in the business, I understand all the grief.

Good job, Jeff!

That the cooling system in Model T is inadequate is rubish in my opinion. I've just bought a brand new Brassworks flattube radiator and had a faily good test of it this friday. Had driven maybe 35 - 40 miles in 25 C so the car was operative hot. Approached the city of Roskilde which gave me 15 minut...

The lower one still has the outer race of the bearing in the hub. Hence the difference.

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