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Mark Gregush

This is all I have right now. The car is under wraps and switch installed.

Mark Gregush

What brand? What you are describing is not a Model T horn. Model T horns used an electromagnet that pull the diaphragm back and forth. Please read my first post, there are different adjustments to make it work/sound depending on what brand it is. I did not say it was not a motor driven horn.

Mark Gregush

I made something like this for my rocky Mtn but with a few changes could work. Instead of the 26/27 brake arms I just used flat plate for the cross bar; http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/402037.html?1384711491 You could mount pulleys with a cover over them so the cable would stay in place ...

Mark Gregush

Or just keep it simple and use cables like the ends of the levers on the brakes would be setup for. Look at Sunday swap meet on the classifieds page. The top item shown is the link between the cable pulley and transmission pedal.

Mark Gregush

What is missing is lack of information on WHAT kind of horn you are asking about. Model T's didn't use a motor driven horn. Different horns have different adjustments so need to know before making suggestions. Does it have an adjustment on the diaphragm or?

Mark Gregush

Looks a lot like the Clum in my 1920 Dodge, but the backing plate where the wires mount is missing in all the above photos.

Mark Gregush

And plate glass!! Couple of those cars looked new or were new before getting hit.

Mark Gregush

Thanks for posting the flyer.

Mark Gregush

The 1926/27 AC's, might have used rods. I do not recall ever seeing any original small drum AC brakes that were not cable. There were other brands that could have been rod activated. AC is not a type it is a brand, just like Rocky Mtn is not a type it is a brand.

Mark Gregush

If it is snake oil, it has been around for a while. Sometimes it is worth reading that catalogs to know what is out there.
https://www.modeltford.com/item/3340SP.aspx

Mark Gregush

Looks like a battery type buzz horn. When the magnet pulls the diaphragm down the points open. It may be missing gaskets that went on one or both sides of the diaphragm, putting it too close to the center part so it does not have room to move in and out. The diaphragm could be home made, which why i...

Mark Gregush

Mounts to engine side of the firewall;
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/50 ... 1226597205
With the floor boards out you might be able to reach under and hold the bolts.

Mark Gregush

Too be sure you know, the original AC setup was cable not rods.

Mark Gregush

Jim how about a link?

Mark Gregush

If you look close you can see the lip that may have gone down inside the cam nut. The part sure looks brass colored to me. Given the location it is being shown in, I will still discount it being the pin retaining cap or part of same. At some point the shield may have been installed wrong and the cen...

Mark Gregush

I am pretty sure the one with the newer body was a roadster/runabout with the delivery installed in place of the T-deck.

Mark Gregush

When I was making my adapter plate, I found a lot of the measurements were 1/32 too.

Mark Gregush

What I am seeing may have been a shim to move the rotor/brush out. There would not be any brass piece like that in that location. When the original felt seal was installed, there was a brass shield held in place by the timer, the shield center hole went around the large smooth part of the cam gear r...

Mark Gregush

If you are handy and inventive, you can make your own cable setup like the originals.

Mark Gregush

Yes as far as I know, but this is the forum support section for questions about issues or problems using it, not the general forum. You should post your question there. In the mean time, google or do a search of: mtfca; AC brakes

Mark Gregush

You don't say where you have checked, Snyder's and maybe others list them in the catalogs. I did not see them in Lang's. https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/Prod ... hByKeyword

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Wayne Sheldon wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:35 am
I was wondering if that was Becker's Holsman?

Yes it is.

Mark Gregush

Take your time and have fun! Besides all the other good advice about car condition, get to know the car and (this is a big one) if it still has the original 2 blade fan, get rid if it and get the new one they sell.

Mark Gregush

I have not done drums, but for flywheels I too use the knife edge like Allan. I took a paper cutter blade that I cut in half and mounted to a frame I can level.

Mark Gregush

Set up a USPS account and pay via Pay-Pal from there, you can do that. Then print the shipping label and other documents from there. I avoid using or pay Friends and Family using Pay-Pal, don't want to mess it up. I would rather pay the fees and do it right. Once you have your USPS account setup you...

Mark Gregush

Could be simple, the clamp is too loose that holds it in place, not enough tension. Could be bent or just too loose. Try that first. The brush is spring loaded so should float. Most people run without the plate behind it anyway.

Mark Gregush

Converting a T to electric has crossed my mind but more in the direction of gas electric. I would think of it more in the realm of a Detroit or Baker.

Mark Gregush

It is owned by a Becker family member.

Mark Gregush

Not sure about pre 1915, but 1915 up the burner would just slide in. When the font was attached to the lamp, there were spring fingers in the base of the lamp body that held it tight. if that is the style you are working with, there is a small cup inside the rim attached to the font, the burner sits...

Mark Gregush

I know of one Holsman in Oregon and have ridden in it, but do not know the history on it.

Mark Gregush

Whom ever get it, that is one cool looking setup!

Mark Gregush

See post on main forum.

Mark Gregush

Think it might be an AC brand cable.

Mark Gregush

Ah just the thing for your 70's Mod-Squad era car!

Mark Gregush

For rings try this;
http://www.ringspacers.com/

Mark Gregush

For the gals/ladies even living in the rural areas, some did try and keep up with latest trends, maybe a bit more on the conservative side. Then as now, changed often so might have followed the fall/winter Sears or Montgomery Wards catalog. The men/guys did too, but our styles didn't/don't change as...

Mark Gregush

On my 25 with original cast iron pistons; Replaced the valves and doubled up the top ring using the 1/8" rings as a stop gap. Needed to get it running as I was on a time crunch and didn't have any extra std 1/4 rings on hand. Well 1, 2 and 3 pistons anyway, I didn't have enough extra 1/8" rings to d...

Mark Gregush

They are not 1926/27, they are 1909 to 1925 for small drum rear end. 1926/27 DID not use an add on drum, they used the stock 1926/27 drums. These would not work on the big drum 1926/27 rear end.

Mark Gregush

I have been using the short aluminum pop rivets for some time to hold the insulators on. Then use 6-32 button head allan head to attach the brush holders. Sometimes have to grind the heads of them down to clear. I do not recall seeing a split rivet in this location, solid or hollow type.

Mark Gregush

Every so often I do an eBay search of Stevens tools, must have missed that one!

Mark Gregush

Wow on the bottom photo! Not what I would expect to see on brake lining. That takes semi-metalic to a new level. The lining I have worked with has a few strands woven in, but that stuff looks to be almost 50/50. My guess it was used in power transmission in an oil filled housing. (?)

Mark Gregush

Just before the tank, have to chuckle; all those high priced cars and the Model A is roped off!

Mark Gregush

What Chris suggest sounds good or if room on the firewall. Not everyone wants to take everything out of the trunk/boot every time to disconnect the battery and reach over and down into the abyss to do so.

Mark Gregush

Except for the diaphragm, the only other parts Lang's list are the bell and battery horn cover. https://www.modeltford.com/item/6432DIA.aspx

Mark Gregush

Put this in the I don't know but sounds good! :? Why no thick insulation around the inside; Could maybe have something to do with directing the transfer more to the post and not to the frame. Adding insulation under the coils might have been thought to be a barrier to the field build up in the frame...

Mark Gregush

Nice! While I was reading this I was wondering who came up with only 4 paddles, thinking it would throw things off, then Dan shows the above. (I am not talking about a balancing the flywheel)

Mark Gregush

Yes but not like you might be thinking. I just went down and looked at the 2 I have. When the pair of coils are assemble, there is a insulator placed under the bottom coil and one in between the two. Then each pair of coils are wrapped as unit, not individual coils, so the insulators are in the wrap...

Mark Gregush

Tom started this post..In the mean time, why not take the tank you have to a radiator shop and get it cleaned out. Might take care of the rust problem short term. If they get it clean enough, could seal coat it.

Mark Gregush

Can you post a photo of that piece of lining? While the lining I have seen has brass wires running thru it, they are not that prevalent to do that much damage. If there was a bad batch of woven lining, it would be something to watch out for. Might try a magnet and see if it would try and stick to th...

Mark Gregush

And don't forget the wood block.

Mark Gregush

Well there ya go! Try messaging him thru one of the picture post.

Mark Gregush

Install using a press and then mount to flywheel/crankshaft. If it is going on that hard, you might want to check for burrs on the shaft or it's cocked. It may have to come off a few times for checking between the clutch drum and brake drum for clearance and setup, after it is all put together and m...

Mark Gregush

Also, read up on staining oak/plywood. There may be some steps that need done before applying the stain so it does not get splotchy.

Mark Gregush

On a low radiator car, with the Chevrolet conversion, there is a mile of room. He must be running a much lower type radiator if there is not a lot or room.

Mark Gregush

It's a speedster, you can color it any way you like.

Fine by me.

Mark Gregush

It has been marked sold on the facebook page.

Mark Gregush

Suggestion re the hood rod; Install studs at firewall and radiator. Then weld on open ended slotted brackets at each end of the rod. Then all you would need to do is loosen 2 nuts and remove the rod. The rod being a little shorter then needed and one stud a little longer so length could be adjusted.

Mark Gregush

Good question. The brass wire should be soft enough to wear away quickly and not have grooved the drum, being softer then the steel drum. Even the Model A semi-hard woven lining has brass wire in it and there are guys still running the pressed steel drums. My suggestion for the getting lining with t...

Mark Gregush

Very cool! Rotated the photo

Mark Gregush

Years ago, I had a early Chevy overhead valve engine that had a tin valve cover with a 1/2"+ thick felt pad that you soaked in oil and laid directly on the rocker arms. You just poured oil on the pad as needed, the motion of the rockers kept themselves and the valves oiled. No gasket on the tin, it...

Mark Gregush

The Model A filter is not going to fit. Even if it did, the style shown , with the wire mesh would be ok, with paper not so good. The problem with filters that size on an A carb using the paper filter is they are too restrictive, not enough air so runs rich. If an air balance tube was in place on th...

Mark Gregush

Ok good to know that he is on the look out.

Mark Gregush

Ok I didn't look quite that bad after a 60 mile drive, but the wall and seat around me in my Huckster were starting to.

Mark Gregush

I just looked at the page, the only one I saw was Model A. The guy that ran the KRW page is selling off and down sizing to a smaller home that may or may not even have a shop. If I can find the video I will post a link. It was showing the pallets of stuff he has and was going to sell. So point is, m...

Mark Gregush

"but your bug will only improve with a little more patina." I am thinking that should be; but "you" and your bug....

Mark Gregush

McMaster Carr sell lining by the foot. Get the woven stuff with the brass wire. Look for the 3/16" thick stuff. My first choice would be the Stronghold. Check to see how worn the holes are and braze up with hard brass if real worn. You can google "mtfca Stronghold" and you should get some photos of ...

Mark Gregush

Gee Mark the left perch will go in the right and the right perch will go in the left can you figure that one out! The lower hole in the perch is for the Radis rod and i still have the one on the rod on the bottom . Installing dual Radis rods that's why the 2 hole perches one at the top for the spri...

Mark Gregush

I'm running a BB RAJO with a full length cover so I cut out a rather thick piece of cork material for a cover gasket to somewhat capture the oil mess - I manually oil the rockers & shafts with straight 30wt. prior to starting and I have a thick wool/cotton pad that I keep saturated to oil while run...

Mark Gregush

You live in Texas how often are you going to get caught in the rain? Ya I know it does rain in Texas, but don't over think it. Unless it gets really wet, wood is fine.

Mark Gregush

No you can not make a left work with a little grinding and welding! If someone was killed or badly hurt because of wrongly made part, esp something the had to do with steering or car was sold later with something like that, I would not want to be in your shoes. The angle of the axle is forged into t...

Mark Gregush

The no kick back one at the top; wouldn't it be kinda hard to get a kickback cranking on magneto!

Cool collections being posted.

Mark Gregush

How are the boars? What size are they? How did the car run before taking it down? Don't know who made them, but look to be somewhere between the cast iron and modern aluminum pistons weight wise. Cant tell from the photos, are the rings the larger 1/4" type or narrower? If narrower might want to mak...

Mark Gregush

More pictures please and what is it!

Mark Gregush

I kinda keep my eyes open for the later machined flywheels. Right now I only have one and it's spoken for, by me.

What I recall seeing, it was later closer to the end of production when Ford was starting to gear up for the Model A, but where I saw or read it do not recall.

Mark Gregush

Sometime during 1926 or 1927 the flywheels were fully machined, not just the areas were the parts went. I have read in the past that these were better balanced from the get go then the early style and did not require as much tweaking later. While I only used a knife edges to balance mine, this seeme...

Mark Gregush

I have ordered from them in the last 6 months and got fast service. Some of their prices may be on the high side, but they are a good company in my OP. As far as asking about a part, they could have been thinking you were looking at a current catalog or on line and were just checking to see if it wa...

Mark Gregush

Correct yes.

Mark Gregush

Damn the cost and time, some people like to do/try it them self.

Mark Gregush

Get ether the 1925 cut down T or 1920 Dodge touring ready in case we have tours this year!! The 1925 needs body wood(started cutting templates but band saw blade broke), engine overhaul, rear end checked out and upholstery. The Dodge needs upholstery, tires, 2 more disk wheels and hubs for rear, dif...

Mark Gregush

Good point about checking first to see if the 10th is connected! The installed terminal may just be filling the hole. You should be able to see the wire running up from the base in the slot if it is.

Mark Gregush

Scripps-Booth maybe?

Mark Gregush

Spring loaded valve stem seal. Enough pressure to keep seal in place but not enough to interfere with operation.

Mark Gregush

For cars; Coil boxes were the same from about 1919/20 till 1925 (ones without switch on them) 1917 to about 1919/20 with switch on front, the tenth terminal was the battery connection Wood and metal firewalls from 1917 up to the 1924/25 model would have all 10 holes so could be used as replacement o...

Mark Gregush

Mark, I think you hit it! There was a gasket between the ball cap and the rear ball connecting gizmo. Stands to reason it would create a super loose fit at that point. The ball appears to fit up well. Thanks a million! Bill Thank you! If I have it on hand, I would use the red grease. I think the ty...

Mark Gregush

You can get a shim for loose fitting balls. Did you by any chance have a gasket between the ball cap and 4th main? There should not be one there if you did. The only gasket in that area is the one between the 4th and back of hogs head. Also, how well does the output/tail shaft fit in the 4th and is ...

Mark Gregush

78298FB9-8D37-42FF-94DE-999A7C230CD1.jpeg I like them. Here they are on my speedster. I redrilled the disks to match the T hubs. The disks have a 3” hole through the center, so I made adapters that just slip on the hubs and have a shoulder to fit inside the disk center hole. The adapters are 3/4” t...

Mark Gregush

I like the brighter shades of red myself.

Mark Gregush

I made the spacers for mounting mine. About 7/8-1" thick. Re drilled the holes in the Chevrolet wheels to match the Ford hubs and used the flange plates along with Ford hub bolts. I haven't trimmed off the front ones and rears ended up just right with brake drums attached. Took a while to come up wi...

Mark Gregush

Post a photos with the nuts off standing on the threaded part side by side. Right now with nuts half on/off or on it is hard to tell.

Mark Gregush

The unknown car in the background of picture 6 is a Dodge Brothers.

Mark Gregush

You might post a link to the post to refresh our memory's.

Mark Gregush

Unless you have the longer one, nothing. The nuts go on and cotter pins are installed. If the nuts bottom out before going all the way up and there is a big gap between the top of the nuts and were the cotter pin goes in, then you might need spacer washers between the bottom of the nuts and spring c...

Mark Gregush

Unless the cam or shaft is really worn, you might want to pull the pins. In my OP, a little wear when just used as parking brakes with new bushings should be ok. If you want to cut them off, there should be room for a hack saw blade between the parts.

Mark Gregush

https://www.modeltford.com/item/18812.aspx
If you don't have them, the catalogs put out by suppliers are a wealth of information.

Mark Gregush

I was going to say Heinze too, but it does not have the little clicker on the adjustment and the plate does not cover the whole top, so might be earlier then 1911.
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/82 ... 1519919768

Mark Gregush

Out of all the cars and trucks maybe 2; My first, 1946 Dodge short wheel base 1 ton truck that I was the 2ed owner and 1962 VW 21 window with sunroof Microbus. All the others, glad I had the time with them and each had been an experience in their own way.

Mark Gregush

All that water soluble oil is going to coat the walls/inside of the radiator and cut down on thermal transfer. If you are trying to protect against rust and corrosion, go buy one of the product made for that. There are plenty to chose from on the shelf at most auto parts stores.

Mark Gregush

You might want to get in touch with RUSS FURSTNOW

Mark Gregush

It looks to me like the spark plug wires are going to a distributor cap but I can't imagine what a distributor would be running off of in that location. Rich Torpeed.jpg Could be one of those cog belt or chain drive distributors mounted on that side or a magneto. https://www.mtfca.com/phpBB3/viewto...

Mark Gregush

Wires are going over the engine down the other side, so no 26/27 coil box. If you look real close, you can see the number pad just behind the timing gear casting. They could have taken clearer photos and used the enlargement feature, gee would have cost them a few more cents!

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