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Mark Osterman

True, thought none of the buildings in that
picture exist today. Replaced by the Orpheum .. United Artists theaters and more modern apartments. We are at the Magic Theater in Hollywood tonight.

Mark Osterman

Are these spring loaded balls an indexing system to hold the needle in place during adjustment?

Mark Osterman

We are at the Hoxton Hotel on Broadway. The garage is around 1030 on the same side of the street. There is a 1930s Packard parked in that garage. Can’t talk to much about the Discovery project. It a pilot program on historic photographic forensics and France and I are the historic process specialists.

Mark Osterman

Yes, I’m the short one. How often can I say that?

Mark Osterman

My wife and I are in Los Angeles to film an episode for the Discovery Channel tomorrow. Came upon this mural in a parking garage a block from our hotel.

Mark Osterman

Need a good solid, dent & tear free passenger side front fender for a low hood car ... so without the lip on the front for the apron. Please email me at mosterman@eastman.org

Mark Osterman

I once drove a 1933 Plymouth PC as regular transportation. It had a straight 6 with hydraulic brakes and a free wheeling transmission. There was a knob on the dash you pulled to get it into free wheeling and pushed for normal.

Mark Osterman

These guys were in their late teens or early twenties ... so they were in their fearless years.

Mark Osterman

The size of this image is actually 2 mm x 2 1/2 mm. Pretty small. And it one of the largest ones we make.

Mark Osterman

Now’s the time to put your candidate on your model T. Here it is for the primary of 1924 or the election of 1928! All years model T are eligible since people drove them for years.

It’s not perfect but original paint. $ 125 including post in the US.

Mark Osterman

Ira’s notes on the back of the prints.

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Several years ago I was given the negatives and prints of these images that were taken by Ira Current when he and a friend took a road trip in 1924. Current was a photo emulsion engineer for the Ansco company .. later GAF. No matter how I tried to add them the order changed, but the one of him and h...

Mark Osterman

Would buy them in a second if they fit the standard side light fitting like this.

Mark Osterman

Still looking if anyone has one to spare.

Mark Osterman

I posted these pictures of the same type a week ago.

Mark Osterman

When you install a lining that is cut in half, do you rivet the two ends first and then push the bulge down in the center to make them tight against the band as you would with traditional band lining?

Mark Osterman

Would there be less chance for chattering by doing this?

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Thanks Tim!

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Maybe someone on this list interested in these. I’m prepping for a workshop in making micro-photographs next week. These were popular from 1851-1890s. They are made by using a microscope as a camera to hold a microscope slide sensitized with silver iodized collodion.

Mark Osterman

Ed .... I really appreciate that ... yes. Please send me some pictures if you can. Mosterman@eastman.org

This is what it looks like. Passengers side.

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Methinks they just hide the water that slips past them.

Mark Osterman

Ok guys. So, it appears that I’m missing one of these. Anyone have one to spare that is as crappy as mine?

Mark Osterman

Still looking for a good used front passenger side fender for a ‘23 car. Not looking for show quality, just solid, no tears or pitting with a little original paint to match the rest of my car. Can pay $400 plus post to Rochester, NY

Mark Osterman

Dave,

Is Butlers Music still in Ottawa Ks? Back when I went to school at the Kansas City Art Institute I worked for Butler doing engraved mother of pearl inlay work on musical instruments.

Mark Osterman

Am thinking about rebuilding the top on my ‘23 runabout. I have these pieces that were used to finish the ends of hidem welt. The top one was near the arm rest. Thinking one in the middle is model A rather than T. The bottom one was on the top trim.

Mark Osterman

What a wonderful find. How did it survive well meaning restoration all these years?

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Hey Marv,

I'm pretty sure mine is made before 26-27 as it has the typical earlier cup shape. I’ve just never seen one with the script on the stamping and the lens.

Mark Osterman

How about taking a picture straight on.

Mark Osterman

Welcome to T ownership. I also suggest draining a little petrol from both the sediment bulb and the carburetor but place a sheet of white paper in the bottom of the pan into which you drain these. It will make it easier to see if there is debris.

Mark Osterman

I actually make real celluloid (nitrocellulose) as part of my day job, so will make a piece then. Here is the red lens for the light.

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I have this Ford / Brown electric tail light. What years were these used. I don’t have the curved clear lens. Was it a flexible celluloid?

Mark Osterman

I check them every time I go on the forum.

Mark Osterman

Wish we had one of these to wash off road salt in the winter and tighten loose spokes in the summer. Sorry for the low resolution file. Maybe someone has a better version to share.

Mark Osterman

That was my post. I didn’t want the cookie cutter seats currently available so found this seat assembly at Hershey. From ... who knows .. a 1905 something or other. I found a leather sofa on the curb on trash day and took a knife and field stripped it of all the useful leather I could. Figuring out ...

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Still looking

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It would be a pretty long drive for me at a time of the year when there could be a snow storm.

Mark Osterman

Need a good solid front passengers side
fender for my ‘23.

Mark Osterman

Are T parts common there?

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Looks like this

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I need a good solid passenger side front fender for a 1923 car. This is the type with no lip on the front.

Mosterman@eastman.org

Mark Osterman

Funny, when I posted on my personal face book page that I installed LED light bulbs in my 23 T runabout I got all sorts of pushback that I ruined the authenticity of my car. I returned that it also had new tires and I had to replace the plate glass with safety glass on the windshield. 😀 Still most o...

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This is how far I got today. Yes, it’s difficult now that it’s colder out. I discovered that even though I carefully centered the upholstery onto the top and bottom tacking strips, the seams are not symmetrical on the ends where they come to the curve. Got the passenger side to work but there is too...

Mark Osterman

Anyone have a very good front fender they are willing to sell? Mine is too weak to last much much longer.

Mark Osterman

Made some headway with the seat upholstery today. Had a few things to fix once I got in there. Installed the new back springs, covered them with canvas and cotton wadding and started to tack the cover material along the bottom tack strip. Seems impossible to get my pneumatic tacking gun in there. Gu...

Mark Osterman

Eric, I never noticed it until the other day when the light “raked” across it just right.

John, Some have though maybe a badge as in an auto club.

Mark Osterman

You mean like this? Now what’s the hole on the right side for?

Mark Osterman

I’ve been working with Mike to establish a more effective set of instructions. Here is a sketch I made of how the original seat back upholstery was installed in my era T.

Mark Osterman

So glad you and your family are safe!

Mark Osterman

I’m curious if these filters impart a slight choking effect on the carburetors. No matter how free flowing the air is, it’s not the same as no filter. Anyone do a test to inspect the plugs with and without the filter? Or is the needle adjustment changed a little to compensate for a slightly richer m...

Mark Osterman

I can’t imagine driving a model T with anything in my lap.

Mark Osterman

There is no real interpretation of the installation. The cut and cord sewn edges of the cover determine the fit. The only thing that is not very trim is the excess canvas on the inside that is just pushed into the spring area where in the originals the burlap was trimmed much closer to the edges of ...

Mark Osterman

I did the hog rings and canvas spring cover because that is how Mike at Classtique suggests installing their upholstery. The edges of the canvas are covered with cotton batting and then the cover assembly. So ... did the best I could with the most recommended supplier on this forum. Yes, it doesn’t ...

Mark Osterman

How cold is it when you are starting and what weight oil is in your crankcase?

Mark Osterman

Funny, I posted this here on the Forum and on the Model T Facebook group. Got nothing here ... but many comments on the FB group about why this blue cloth might be in the seat springs. One concept was that a rodent brought it there.

Mark Osterman

The passenger side front fender for the runabout is to fragile on the running board end to fix. I really need a very good (not dented or pitted) but not show quality replacement. Anyone out there that can help?

Please email me at mosterman@eastman.org

Mark Osterman

I removed the upholstery from the ‘23 runabout this evening. Throughout the removal I documented everything that would help me in the re-upholstering. Interestingly I found this blue cloth tied in a place that could only be reached during the original assembly of the car. The other thing I noticed w...

Mark Osterman

I assume this is the reason why Classtique suggests using hog ring affixed canvas as the barrier between the cotton and springs. This is my original seat and you can see where the burlap worked its way through the coils. The stretched canvas would prevent this from happening over time.

Mark Osterman

Thanks Doug, Yes the canvas (what Mike called “canvas burlap” for some reason) is there to prevent the cotton batting from falling apart and through the springs. The canvas is more effective than burlap. That canvas and the hog rings come with the kit. The stretched and secured canvas is then covere...

Mark Osterman

The next step is the back and sides of the seat. I’ll be reaching out for help on that too. The people at Classtique are really great, but their installation instructions and videos really need to be revamped. I teach workshops in complex techniques of making photosensitive materials for photography...

Mark Osterman

Finally got the seat cushion springs covered with the Classtique upholstery. i think it would have been easier with a second pair of hands. As it was it was a little like changing bands. I found that I had to loosen the 2x4s and reposition the cushion a few times in order to get the crimping tool in...

Mark Osterman

Funny, of all the model T’s I’ve seen over the years I don’t recall seeing that stamping. I guess they are mostly as faint as the one on my car and not like that one Steve posted.

Mark Osterman

What the heck is happening there? Was the frame cut to lower it for a speedster? So that was stamped in the center.

Mark Osterman

Funny, I never saw this on the front crossmember of my ‘23 runabout until yesterday when the light happened to rake across it in a parking lot. Any ideas of when this stamping was common on frames.

Mark Osterman

LOL .. ok so I welded up some channel locks to make the same tool used by Mike at Classtique. I made the 2x4 clamps and found a table to compress the springs. Before I drill the holes in the table I tried to find where I can put those 2x4s and still get those cannel locks in to do the crimping. Does...

Mark Osterman

I’ve used one for installing band linings for years.

Mark Osterman

Hey Wayne, Thanks for this in depth description. I am using a Classtique seat upholstery kit sewn for new springs fitted with the channel system. I heard from Mike and he sent me a picture of the off set channel lock type pliers he uses that have a small flat bar welded to the moving jaw, so looks l...

Mark Osterman

Thanks Don. So you tap in the channel with the hammer to close the channel? Do you have to bak it with something for that? Could you please post a picture of your installation.

Mark Osterman

No, the original type installation is not with hog rings it is with a metal channel around the base of the seat frame. The upholstery is pushed into the groove and then the surrounding channel is crimped. I did look at the sheet metal seam tool at Harbor Freight but it seems to wide to fit. So peopl...

Mark Osterman

Have watched the video by Classtique several times and can’t make out the tool they are using to crimp the channel for securing the seat cushion upholstery. Anyone have a picture? Is it just vise grips?

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Does Classtique use the correct size and spacing for their 1923 tops. Will be buying one this Spring ...

Mark Osterman

Used to be nice in the old forum format to have a decent size image of our cars in the personal information section. On the other hand it’s so much easier to post pictures in our posts now.

Mark Osterman

I drive my runabout all year round. I don’t mind the cold but I hate the salt. A model T is not so good in snow or ice without chains. So I only drive it before we have snow in the beginning of the winter season or on occasion after snow has melted and rain has washed the streets enough that the sal...

Mark Osterman

You sure you mean 1923?

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Maybe someone has an extra they are not using.

Mark Osterman

I need a solid (not bent or pitted) front passenger side fender for my 1923 T. Not show car quality but nice. The one on my car was rusted very thin where it meets the running board and there is not enough metal to do a good job of welding there. Every time someone steps on the running board to clim...

Mark Osterman

Both gauges sold! Thanks MTFCA.

Mark Osterman

Bought these at Hershey only to find out they were about 1 1/2” too long to fit my oval gas tank. Cleaned the steel guides and they work great. The pot metal dials are solid and nice looking. These are ready to install. $50 each plus postage. Mosterman@eastman.org

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I did ask Mike at Classtique about the additional foam layer and he suggested it shouldn’t be used. I didn’t feel I needed it, been driving regularly for three years with the original seats and they weren’t particularly uncomfortable, so any new upholstery is bound to be even better.

Mark Osterman

I have a new set of springs and a Classtique seat upholstery kit for my 23 runabout. It’s been suggested that an inch of memory foam under the seat upholstery is a good idea. Anyone out there have a specific brand of memory foam material and a source for just enough to lay under the cushion upholste...

Mark Osterman

Picked up the seat upholstery from Mike at Classtique when I was at Hershey on Thursday. Anxious to install it.

Mark Osterman

Having the T parts spread out is kinda the whole point when it comes to picking up deals at Hershey. You can always find good parts at top dollar from people who specialize in T parts and that’s good when you really need them. But it’s the people that sell lots of parts from different makes ... the ...

Mark Osterman

Nice to run into Steve ... you were sitting on the blacktop sorting through a Klondike of old Ford wrenches when we met.

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Silly question but are you trying it with a coil in place? Also you may need to clean the needle indicator and the ring with scotchbrite.

Mark Osterman

Another goodie. For oiling the front spring.

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Spent all day yesterday there and came back this morning for one last look. This was a nice piece I found in good condition. Also got a nice low head and a new front spring.

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Well, I guess I should turn around and drive back to Rochester; Steve has snapped up all the deals.

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Looks like $269 is the base price plus a little more for a floor mat.

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I think the basic package 1923 runabout was the cheapest. Naturally ... my car.

Mark Osterman

I had one just like this on my old speedster. I bought it at Hershey back around 2003.

Mark Osterman

Actually Mike at Classtique gave me the option of either hog rings or channel mounting. Since this new spring have the aluminum channels I’ll be getting the kit for that application. I was worried because the bottom springs look like you could bend them in half. I guess once they lay in the steel se...

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I bought a new set of springs from Langs that seem to be made by Snyders. Have ordered the seat upholstery kit from Classtique. So here’s the thing. I’m looking at these new cushion springs that are made on an aluminum framework. They already look kinda twisted and bent right out of the box and they...

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Used to be that you could find interesting parts peeking out from the dirt the year after a wet Hershey show. People left all kinds of stuff in the deep mud when they got out of there.

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Yes Larry. I guess I didn’t describe it’s location and design very well when I asked you. Mike at Classtique was also scratching his head when I asked him too. I sent you these pictures the same time I posted them here.

Mark Osterman

No problem. I document everything photographically when I dismantle something. The combination of being both dyslexic and a little obsessive.

Mark Osterman

Getting ready to rebuild and reupholster the seats in my 1923 runabout. As I investigate and document the original seats I discovered these two sheet metal bands that are nailed from the bottom wood frame to an upper section. I presume this was to keep the padding from being in contact with the inte...

Mark Osterman

Found this Bosch type DU4 mod 2 magneto tonight in a barn scheduled for demolition soon. Is it the type for model T Ford?

Mark Osterman

Hopefully you’ll be driving it at 40 mph in not too much time. Welcome !

Mark Osterman

Very neat. Were the float chamber covers painted originally?

Mark Osterman

You mean she doesn’t mind the oil leaks?

Mark Osterman

Thanks so much! Those pictures are just what I need. I did speak to Mike at Classtique yesterday about the installation and picking up my seat kit at Hershey. Also spoke with him about how helpful it would be for them to create installation videos shot professionally without an audience so there is ...

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