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AndyClary wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:04 pm
Little far from California.

But way, way closer for us in St. Louis. Looking forward to it.

I say this respectfully, albeit frankly. One option you missed is refraining from posting this kind of stuff on a Model T forum. Yes, before there was an Off Topic section, people here complained about off-topic posts in the other sections. The solution was to create an Off-Topic section. Now peopl...

I once commented that I could so something with my Model T that Henry Ford couldn't do with his. I put $45 worth of gas in it.

When you remember daily life 70 years ago, and features of that life that are unknown to younger folks, it reminds you that we now live in a different world. As usual, Steve has hit the nail on the head. I can remember when young adults held doors open for old people, gestured for them to go first,...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6vp-YgkIg

Tell Steve to click his heels together three times and say, "There's no place like home." That should do it.

Happy New Year.

I have never been in your part of the world, so cannot comment on the terrain, but if you have hills, the car will go up hills better the way Henry built it. Norm, I lived in the Netherlands for 9-1/2 years. The highest point in the entire country is 1,056 feet above sea level. Hills aren't really ...

Jones in Aiken SC wrote: ↑
Tue Oct 29, 2024 12:19 pm
And thank you, Steve, for the proper use of "you're welcome" versus the oft seen "your welcome."

Agreed, but even the incorrect "your welcome" is better than the frequently-heard "No praahblem."

"My grandfather had a car exactly like that, except it was green and it was a Plymouth."

Joe you gave a scare when I saw that post. Wish you had said needed Rich’s number. I was worried we lost another one. I have said that here frequently. Posting a name with no explanation immediately suggests another death. I'll say it again (for all the good it will do!), make the subject line "Ric...

... We went to School House Falls in the Ozark National Forest on the old CCC Wilderness Trail west of where we live. Did a little hiking, some Dutch Oven campfire cooking, cooked on our 1926 Montgomery Wards gasoline stove, and had about as much fun as two old dinosaurs can. :) In the mid-1930s, m...

This whole discussion started me thinking about Stan. What an amazingly versatile guy he was! Here's another side of him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT6vp-YgkIg

Many years ago, Stan Howe posted the following on this forum: STEWARDSHIP “On a serious note, we are all just stewards of these cars. Somebody owned them before we did, somebody will own them after we are gone. The money that we pay for them or the money that we take for them is just a way to determ...

"...an overbite tour to Fulton MO..."
Well, grit your teeth and get going!

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:11 pm
.... The bridge was dedicated on July 4, 1874 and opened to railway traffic the same day. By the time construction of the bridge started the gauge horse was already out of the barn.

If I had any idea where she was these days, I'd let her know.......

A girl I knew in a suburb of St. Louis once told me that she had done a history paper about the Eads Bridge in high school. She said that it was because of the bridge that the railroad gauge east and west of the Mississippi is the same. Don't know if it's true, but makes a nice bit of Eads Bridge tr...

... What I learned in German has on occasion helped me to read Dutch! My wife and I spoke mostly Dutch with each other during the forty years of our marriage, and our daughter ended up speaking it very well for someone who learned it in a suburb of St. Louis. She took German in high school and some...

Kaiser wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:55 am
.... So what will it be....

Dutch, of course.

My grandparents (married in 1908, died in 1960) owned six cars in their lives, a 1915 Dodge, a 1928 Dodge, a 1936 Dodge, a 1941 Dodge, a 1950 Dodge and a 1956 Chrysler. I think it's safe to say they would approve your buying the Dodge.

In St. Louis, the old Ford assembly plant was converted to lofts.

https://www.paric.com/project/west-end-lofts/

For years, I had known Stan from the forum but had never met him in person. In 2018 Jane and I were on a road trip out west and it took us close enough to Helena that I contacted Stan and arranged to see him. He gave us a tour of the area and then we went to have a meal at The Dam Bar. (Cute name. I...

Many years ago, Stan Howe posted an item on this forum on stewardship. At that time, I only knew Stan from having seen his forum posts. I was the editor of the St. Louis club's newsletter (I said it was many years ago) and I emailed him to ask if I could use it. He graciously replied that I could us...

Susanne wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:24 am
....because they've been Model T people all their 22 year lives...

Gee, Susanne, that means I was 60 when they were born.

Because I made my living for about 25 years translating Dutch documents into English, I am fairly good (not perfect, but fairly good) at recognizing English written by a non-native speaker. It may look okay, but it doesn't quite feel okay. I have forwarded a lot of them (with all headers) to the fra...

People complain about the USPS, but who else lets you send a letter from New York to California for just a penny day?

John kuehn wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:12 am
The Title of the post needs to be clearer to get more responses.

Absolutely. I looked at the post out of idle curiosity, but if even I were the world's expert on Model T trucks, I'd probably have skipped it.

Peculiar thread, not a peep from Mr. Martin, hope he's doing well. Much earlier in the thread, this appeared: "(just FYI to those that don't already know, he can ONLY be contacted by phone - does not have email)" If "not a peep" refers to not getting an email from Mr. Martin, that might explain it....

Yes. Reading posts like that one make my day.

Hated to miss it. Looks like the weather was perfect.

It's the one parade I hate to miss. Did anyone take any pictures?

The MTFCA Chapter Coordinator is Kathy Tagert, kltagert@cox.net. She can probably tell you what the next steps are in forming a new chapter.

South park zephyr wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:46 pm
It was pointed out that they all came over to see our cars as we were gathering....

But, as I recall, none of us went over to see their cars. Just sayin'.

I concur with Scott's description. My T wasn't running so Jane and I joined the tour by tagging along behind in a modern car. For several the tour provided validation of the Model T phrase "seven-gallon hill." In my case, I learned that a 2011 FWD Taurus is not a good tow vehicle going uphill on a g...

I too (1) have wondered what the reasoning is for making me vote for someone I perhaps know and also at random for someone I don't know, and (2) have never seen an explanation of the reasoning behind it. I have occasionally seen people ask why, but have never seen an answer. Kind of like the old sto...

Well the last Saturn was produced in 2010 so unless it’s a collector car the insurance policy may not be adequate to cover the circumstances.... As far as I know, the value of the Saturn doesn't affect the amount of liability insurance the Saturn owner carries. It's the amount of insurance coverage...

I remember one kinda weird thing when I had mine done. They were done two weeks apart, which meant I had some time where one eye had been done and the other not yet. I discovered I could look at a wall, for example, and alternate closing my eyes. The wall became brighter and a different shade with t...

Might as well get on the bandwagon. This is a picture of me and my late wife Anja at the Model T Centennial in Richmond in 2008.

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Yes I do know that there are posts about losing a member and it doesn’t bother me about knowing about it. I may have misstated my point. It also doesn't bother me to know about losing a member, but I don't like seeing the name of someone I know, thinking it's bad news, and finding out that he has, ...

What’s the deal about posting somebody’s name with out explanation? Name Ken Burns Explanation Documentary film maker It has frequently been a way of announcing the death of a forum member. If I see a subject line which reads "John Kuehn," with no further reason for the post, then I am always afrai...

Another "Oh damn, he must have died" subject line. Please, people, don't just post names as subjects without some further explanation. Please?

A man goes to the doctor and says, "Doc, whenever I try to sing a song, it comes out different. Today it was 'The Green, Green Grass Of Home.' Yesterday it was, 'Delilah.' Last week it was 'What's New Pussycat?' What's wrong with me?" The Doctor says, "Sounds like Tom Jones Syndrome to me." The man ...

Your Edison story remind me of something. Some years ago, I had the occasion to meet and spend time with a member of the Osage Nation Congress who was visiting St. Louis. He said that he and his wife had Osage friends and the whole group would sometimes go out to dinner. He said that when the hostes...

It was one of the longest-lived threads on the forum, and I can't understand why the whole thread would disappear because of one or even a few posts. Oh, well.....

I always used to check (and sometimes contribute to) "the "Humor to Brighten Your Day" thread. Suddenly it was gone and I can't even find old ones.

As I have commented from time to time before, please make the subject line more than just a name by itself, e.g "Ron Patterson Great Guy" or "Another Good Experience with Ron Patterson." In view of the average age of Model T people, seeing a name by itself can initially be worrisome.

ironhorse wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 3:47 pm
I have a gmail account that I created just for t-bay.

I also have a gmail account. I consider it the equivalent of a spare tire in the trunk. I only use it when I need it, but it's good to know that I have it.

Allan wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 04, 2023 8:20 pm
For such a short trip I would not fold it. Just drive a route which will allow you to travel at normal T speeds.

First thing that occurred to me as well. It would take longer to fold and unfold it than it will to drive 10-12 miles.

Some 20 plus years ago, my 1927 was used in (I'm sorry I can't recall the name) movie that was filmed in St Louis and I was paid as a driver. I don't recall the dollar amount, but I do remember the car made more money than I did. Are you talking about the NBC mini-series "A Will of Their Own"? It w...

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Sun May 14, 2023 11:29 pm
You mean dad. The current George is the son.

Of course. Gee, I must be older than George Sr. was 20 years ago!

2003 was the 100th anniversary of Ford Motor Company and to celebrate the centennial, Ford organized a huge celebration in Dearborn. A group of seven Model T owners from the St. Louis Chapter of the MTFCA decided to drive to Dearborn to join the celebration. We met at a major shopping center and set...

Mopar_man wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:25 pm
Thanks so much. She turns a wrench as well.

You have posted photos of your daughter here on the forum in the past, but I think this may be the first one where she isn't under the hood with a wrench in her hand.

When we lose a member, please post the member’s name in the title. And the other side of that coin is this. If you're just wondering how to contact someone or how someone is doing, say so in the title. I hate seeing names of people as stand-alone thread subjects, assuming it's bad news, and then fi...

Wow, this thread takes me back. This was part of the obituary in our club newsletter in May 2002: "It is with deep regret that we report the passing of Harold Bowden, a fixture in the Model T Ford Club of Greater Saint Louis and also in the Model T world for at least three decades. It has been said ...

George House wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:03 am
How about Mike Walker, our Forum Friend in Little Rock ?

Mike is in Arkansas, but not in Little Rock. Not sure. Fayetteville perhaps?

I never met Tony in person, but it's pretty much impossible to be a member of the Model T community and not know who he was.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1611

RIP, Tony.

I went to a conference in Florida one summer. A native Floridian explained to me, "In Florida, we don't measure humidity in percentage, we measure it in gallons per acre."

5 WoodenWheels wrote: ↑
Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:46 am
... Of course I’ll do anything to avoid breaking a mirror or walking under a ladder or letting a black cat cross my path....

I had a boss once who said, "I suppose you're one of those people who think it's bad luck to be superstitious."

Sometime in 2002 at a Model T event here in St. Louis, Sam Atkinson commented, "Next year is the Ford Centennial. Wouldn't it be neat to drive to Dearborn for that?" That was enough. In June 2003, seven Ts left St. Louis on their way to the Centennial. All seven made it and six made the trip back. (...

My guess is that this is the man you're looking for. Name is right and Watersmeet is right.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153 ... ter-behlow

I recall reading a story quite a while ago about an Army post where there was a lot of friction between the GIs and the local population. Those were the days when the soldiers were paid in cash, and the commandant of the fort told the paymaster to pay everyone in two-dollar bills for a couple of mon...

The challenge I remember when I was a kid was to look out the rear window, read the Burma Shave signs in reverse, and then reconstruct the rhyme. Of all the rhymes I read through the years, the only one I remember is: She put a bullet Through his hat, But he's had closer Shaves than that. Burma Shave

Mopar_man wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:11 pm
.... and got a few extra parts so Angie could lead how to Sweat a pipe. I told her all good Italians need to know how.

Funny, I've heard lots of stereotypes of various nationalities, but I don't recall anything about Italians and soldering....

Funny, I started reading the thread and was startled to find that I was reading a post from myself that I didn't remember posting. Went back and looked at the dates and realized that I was reading a discussion from two years ago. Read through all the old ones and finally came to the very recent ones...

ABoer wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 20, 2022 4:13 am
I do it the cheap way before a tour.

Zegt de zuinige Nederlander...
Says the frugal Dutchman...

Ours here in San Jose CA. is also on Friday, Veterans Day, as it should be. I understand the sentiment, but the parade in St. Louis is always the Saturday before the 11th. The reasoning, I am sure, is that more people can (and therefore will) go downtown to watch a parade on a Saturday than can (or...

Rich P. Bingham wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:20 pm
How long is a rope ?

That brought an unexpected memory. Having heard something similar, I once asked my grandfather, "How long is a piece of string?" His answer was, "How Long is a Chinaman." (Probably politically incorrect these days, but on the other hand, isn't everything?

)

I have rarely found any particular advantage to being shorter than many other men (I'm 5'7"), but I fit very comfortably in my Model T.

Parade in downtown St. Louis.

Me with my daughter Liz before the parade.

Along the parade route.

Spectators.

Instead of just photos from our parade in St. Louis, I figured I'd start a thread an d anyone can add to it. We had our parade in St. Louis this morning. Chilly and very windy, but dry.

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:41 pm

16 Cindy Adkinson

Slight misspelling. It's Cindy Atkinson.

tdump wrote: ↑
Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:31 pm
If it offends anyone, erase it.

My problem is that I am offended by people who are easily offended for no good reason. Haven't figured out yet how to erase them.

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:52 pm

.... They make a chair that sells for less than half the price, but it makes a much less compact package, three feet long.

I think I out-frugalled you on this one. Since I have a touring and only take the chair to local car shows, I bought the cheap one.

DHort wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 21, 2022 1:42 am
...Make sure you state you are in Indiana, PA. Always hard to help when someone does not state where they
are from.

It's even more complicated when you're in a place called "Indiana, Pennsylvania."

Wayne Sheldon wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 17, 2022 4:38 am
... I really like the famous Cronkite closing.

Bit of trivia to start your day. According to Google, "Cronkite" is originally a Dutch name. It comes from the old Dutch "krankheyt" (or modern German "krankheit") meaning "sickness" or "disease.")

...AND just give them the basic info and not a long story about your car. It will only complicate things! What John said is absolutely correct. I went with a friend to the DMV once. My friend is friendly, chatty and likes to be helpful. He kept yammering on with all kinds of unnecessary (but in his...

Jim, my thought exactly..... but it does seem somewhat out of character for Steve.

jiminbartow wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:56 am
Driving a Model T creates a very unique experience that can only be derived from the act of driving it.

When I first got into the hobby, someone said to me, "Driving a Model T is the most fun you can have with clothes on." Seemed about right....

vbergman wrote: ↑
Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:09 pm
... I was not expecting this kind of response within minutes of posting.

Is this your first time posting a question about Model Ts on the Model T Forum?

Steve Jelf wrote: ↑
Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:25 pm

The Model T pastime may indeed fade eventually, but I don't expect that in my lifetime.

.... Says the 80-year-old from Kansas!

JohnM wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:40 pm
Just a little water running across the basement floor to the drain for me....

Where in the area are you? I'm in Ballwin and we had heavy rain but no flooding near me. I did see that the area of Rock Hill where the Trainwreck is flooded again, but that's par for the course.

Gee, Darel, Korea? I thought you drove a Model T ambulance in WWI.

More seriously, the St. Louis club has had an annual Overnight Tour since 1992. (They have all been planned and organized by our tour chairman, Sam Atkinson, and he has been on every one up to this year, when a last-minute positive Covid test sidelined him. Very frustrating.) I am no expert but have...

Darin Hull wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 17, 2022 6:39 pm
... Our goal is a small and simple tour to get our feet wet...

You mean like this?

Kentucky Fall Foliage Tour in 2006.

It was a cough that carried him off.
It was a coffin they carried him off in.

A guy with the name "Versteeg" from Michigan? Wow! Go figure!

When I first got into the Model T hobby, I read or heard somewhere, "Driving a Model T is most fun you can have with clothes on." That seems to have summed it up.

Wayne Sheldon wrote: ↑
Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:30 am
I think you could get me into lederhosen before you could a kilt! I do love the bagpipes, but the kilt doesn't interest me.

Oh I dunno. This was five years ago at the St. Louis Scottish Games. (Me, my son-in-law and my grandtwins.)

Now back to our Model T programming....

ABoer wrote: ↑
Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:54 pm
Ik denk dat het iets te maken heeft met Mieren .

Klopt.

... at the time gave an argument that it was improper to call them 'Depot Hacks', but rather 'Hacks for Depots'. Does anyone remember this article or what his reasoning was? Sounds like nitpicking. I'd be interested in seeing it. (Steve, there are several Dutch terms equivalent to "nitpicking." On...

The link that didn't work for me is double-underlined on my screen and the more recent one (which does work) is single-underlined. Don't know why they're like that, but that is clearly the reason.

"The requested page could not be found."

Is part of the link missing?

KLTagert wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 09, 2022 11:39 pm
...from 0530 until after 1600...

You can take the girl out of the military, but you can't take the military out of the girl.

But it’s amazing to read that so many Americans offer support or hospitality or give helpful advises. Bernd, my theory is that we are closer in time to when the people settling the country began to move west, and depended on their neighbors or even strangers for help, and sometimes even their lives...

Mine arrived in a suburb of St. Louis yesterday, May 31st.Have read most of the articles, so now will start waiting for the next one. Perhaps I'll re-read a few of the articles to pass the time.

By all means post your route and your progress. If they know where you are going to be, I'm sure that people along your route will be happy to see you.

It looks like you are going too far north for me.

JTT3 wrote: ↑
Fri May 20, 2022 8:50 pm
... Larry & my father were stationed at the same SAC base in Nebraska.

Offutt? I was at Little Rock.

Condolences to the family.

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I have always thought the name alone was reason enough to use it."Marvel Mystery Oil." What's not to like about that?

I like it! I had a similar thought about 25 years ago....

TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:53 pm
2 CV or T? I'd choose both.

I've had both, and I agree. This was my 2CV. I took the picture in 1968, and I think the car was a 1960. Simple and basic, just like a Model T.

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