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by VowellArt
Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:47 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 213

Re: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***

Colin, you're right I forgot about that...Revision 1-B

1911-1912FuelTankAssemblyRev1-B.jpg
by VowellArt
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:38 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 213

Re: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***

The only other thing that I've got on this drawing that is not correct, is that in tank fuel filter 2903BSC...it doesn't fit this or the 1909 sediment bulb.
by VowellArt
Wed Dec 04, 2019 9:37 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 213

Re: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***

Yes, but this assembly is for the 1912 Torpedo whose sediment bulb doesn't look like any of my previous drawings...it is a slim looking carrot like sediment bulb and is directly over the driveshaft...all other cars had that non-hex "potato" looking sediment bulb in the same position. Then they went ...
by VowellArt
Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 213

Re: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***

I know it is a separate part, but it was called out as separate on the Sediment Bulb Assembly...

1911-1912SedimentBulbAssembly.jpg
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:09 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 213

***1911-1912 Fuel Tank Assembly***

I'm pretty sure this is the one for 1911-1912 and I'm sort of certain that all through 1911 and most of 1912 the sediment bulb was in the center of the tank over the driveshaft...I think it was later in 1912 that Ford went to the later style bulb with the built in shutoff valve on the side and moved...
by VowellArt
Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:05 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1910 Fuel Tank Assembly***
Replies: 1
Views: 123

***1909-1910 Fuel Tank Assembly***

I have no real idea when this one used, maybe somebody here knows...but I'm thinking that it was used sometime later in 1909, because the first 2500 cars had a different sediment bulb than this one...it I think was longer and more square looking and I think had it's own shutoff valve. 1909-1910FuelT...
by VowellArt
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:12 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Sediment Bulb Assembly***
Replies: 7
Views: 296

Re: ***1911-1912 Sediment Bulb Assembly***

Revision 1-D...it ocured to me that if the opening on the 1909-1910 was larger than I had originally thought, than maybe this one might just be also...it would figure that the more volume coming from the tank would apply enough pressure to force the fuel through the 1/4 inch valve and fuel line to t...
by VowellArt
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:02 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1909-1910 Fuel Tank Sediment Bulb (Threaded)
Replies: 7
Views: 352

Re: 1909-1910 Fuel Tank Sediment Bulb (Threaded)

Larry, you know I never got to see the top of that sediment bulb, all the pictures I've gotten were from the sides and bottom... Revision 1-A 1909-1910SedimentBulbAssembly.jpg The placement of the shutoff valve on the bottom makes more sense to me too (easier to get to), but I guess folks can put th...
by VowellArt
Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:14 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: License Plates
Replies: 8
Views: 859

Re: License Plates

I did!

LicensePlate.jpg
Made by genuine incarcerated felon's of the State in 1922!
by VowellArt
Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:55 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1909-1910 Fuel Tank Sediment Bulb (Threaded)
Replies: 7
Views: 352

1909-1910 Fuel Tank Sediment Bulb (Threaded)

This is the typical 1909-1910 threaded style you see in all the vendor catalogs, the soldered one looks a bit different in that it has a flange that looks sort of square I think, not sure really I only got a glimpse of one at the last HME (Holiday Motor Excursion) I was at. 1909-1910SedimentBulbAsse...
by VowellArt
Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:53 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1911-1912 Sediment Bulb Assembly***
Replies: 7
Views: 296

***1911-1912 Sediment Bulb Assembly***

Not sure what other 1911-1912 cars these went on but from what I've seen it was only the Torpedo and some other open cars. I toyed with the idea of calling it "the Carrot" but wasn't sure anybody else calls it that...all of us who drive the later cars with the larger 2909 sediment bulb just refer to...
by VowellArt
Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:17 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

Re: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

Mike, I can make the art for any gas stick if you've got one you want reproduced...but it will be just the art, you'll have to have a silk screener do the imprinting. Just give me a picture of the sample you want and I can do it for you....Let me know. ;)
by VowellArt
Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

Re: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

Latest revision...
by VowellArt
Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:55 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

Re: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

Matt, that looks like a TT chassis and it seems a bit too long too...gonna make a Fordor Sedan Pickup or something? Or a Fordor Stretch Limo? You'll have to change out that flat firewall for the Improved cars bulging one though and place the under the cowl top of the tank pad holders 2920 with their...
by VowellArt
Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:05 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

Re: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

Ok, made some adjustments, hope this explains things a bit better....if somebody has the measurements for the cowl tanks for both open cars and the closed cars (ie Tudors and Coupes) please let me know and I'll add that information to the notes on the drawing also. 1926-1927FuelTankAssembly-Cowl.jpg...
by VowellArt
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

Re: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

Dan, Hmmm, I guess once that card pad is in there where is it going to go, so it wouldn't need anything to hold it there. Didn't see those rivet holes in those mounting straps...how many of them are there 2 or 3? Kevin, I'll try and make some sort of notation and or comparison diagram concerning tho...
by VowellArt
Sun Nov 17, 2019 1:15 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

Re: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

Matt, I have measured the cowl sections between the cowl tank models and the Fordor and their the same width and height as well...the only difference I can see is that the firewall, the top pad holders that run across the top of the tank and have the eye hole in it for the bottom straps that actuall...
by VowellArt
Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:41 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***
Replies: 24
Views: 926

***1926-1927 Cowl Mounted Fuel Tank***

This is by far the hardest drawing I have yet to draw. The problem is that in other Model T's components were pretty much bolt on and them slap on the next assembly. Not so with 26-27 the "Improved Cars", some thing in them are integral to the construction of the car...like the fuel tank. It doesn't...
by VowellArt
Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

Re: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

The power company up here is the DWP, not Edison or PG&E (the DWP didn't shut down their grid) and that was a day ago when we had 60 - 70 mph winds up here, power round here fluctuates sometimes. The power that comes to this community is underground, but getting to this community it is above ground....
by VowellArt
Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:46 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

Re: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

Sorry for the delay, had a spot of fire out here in Commiefornia, I live in Sylmar and the freaking power keeps going on and off for some stupid reason...anyhoo, here is the change that Dan T. requested, actually I can't see why that would be there and to me it makes more sense on the other side, bu...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:19 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Do all 1920s model Ts have these?
Replies: 11
Views: 1189

Re: Do all 1920s model Ts have these?

Will, that's the same as in my early 22 touring also (they were really a 23's low cowl body and had the 2 man top like on all the earlier cars. of course that changed mid 22 to the1 man top), 21'a were totally different, but 22 -25 had that "S" shaped iron that screws to the bottom frame rails and g...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 11:02 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

Re: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

Allan, when we (my dad and I) had first put the car back together my dad didn't feel that the felt seal was such a good idea (as most engineers think when encountering old technology, in fact he "new and improved" everything on my car waaaay before it was fashionable to do so...which come to think a...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:32 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1920 Fuel Tank Assembly (Round)***
Replies: 2
Views: 195

Re: ***1913-1920 Fuel Tank Assembly (Round)***

As far as I know all fuel tanks have interior baffles, but since they don't show and are only on the inside, there isn't much I can do to show them in a drawing unless I make a cross section and the reason I don't is precisely because I don't know where those baffles are either, but I figure there a...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:03 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1913-1920 Fuel Tank Assembly (Round)***
Replies: 2
Views: 195

***1913-1920 Fuel Tank Assembly (Round)***

I'm also not quite sure if the Round tank has or does not have a cork cushion like my oval tank does. So if anybody knows for sure that there is such a thing or some type of material used between the tank and the mounting bands, please let me know and I'll add it to the drawing. Also if I've left of...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:51 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

Re: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

Ok, I added those Cotter Pins and the frame clip, even though I only show one, it should be understood that there are actually two of them, they hold the fuel line in two place.
1920-25-26-27FuelTankAssembly-1-B.jpg
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:31 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

Re: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

Scott, that makes sense that they're tinned brass, because as I said before, steel rusts and just because you're running fuel through it doesn't mean it wont rust either, run out of gas, or let the car set a bit and that pipe gets dry, condensation will form and that leads to rust. On my car, I use ...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 3:00 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

Re: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

Allan, My carriage bolts have no hole in them for a cotter pin at all, can't say this is true for all the other domestic's though, because Ford was cotter pin happy on this cars, somebody may have changed out the bolt for some reason at some point...what I do know is that there is enough tension on ...
by VowellArt
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:54 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***
Replies: 24
Views: 855

***1920-1925 Fuel Tank Assembly & 1926-1927 Fordoor Sedans***

1920-25-26-27FuelTankAssembly.jpg I'm not sure if people still do this or not, but back when I was first getting into the Model T (in the late 70's), vendors sold a cork band liner for the under the seat tanks...I bought mine from Snyder's. The purpose of it (at least so I was told) was to keep the...
by VowellArt
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:14 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Oil sight gauge issue
Replies: 27
Views: 1434

Re: Oil sight gauge issue

I also marked it off in quarts, so I would what I needed to add if it ever did get low again.
by VowellArt
Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:03 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1915 runabout: wrong door?
Replies: 27
Views: 1290

Re: 1915 runabout: wrong door?

Charley Shaver is correct, you have to fit doors, by bending the hinge...I had to do it to all 3 of my touring's doors, then you might want to put some sort of sound deadening material (like Jute) on the inside of the skin, makes the doors sound less "tinny" and more solid, like your Packard's. :)
by VowellArt
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:19 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Younger Members
Replies: 21
Views: 1454

Re: Younger Members

I get a lot of younger folks and some not so young ones too, just driving around the towns out here in the North Eastern end of the SFV. Sylmar, Santa Clarita, Tujunga, San Fernando, Mission Hills, etc...the thing is that these cars are not as prevalent as they once were, so they generate interest i...
by VowellArt
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:29 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***
Replies: 6
Views: 468

Re: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***

Ok, here is another revision 1-D...had to make a few changes because of some things Ron Patterson brought to my attention and my damned dyslexia (wish I had caught those numbers reversal before)... 1919-1927GeneratorAssmbly.jpg-Rev1-D.jpg Thanks for all the advice Ron, as always you've been a big he...
by VowellArt
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:42 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Here I go again .... to OCF
Replies: 244
Views: 42038

Re: Here I go again .... to OCF

For crying out loud Steve, go to Harbor Freight and buy their tube repair kit, it costs about 3 bucks, but then you have it if you ever need it again...
TireRepairKit.jpg
I got one in my parts stash under the rear seat. ;)
by VowellArt
Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:56 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***
Replies: 6
Views: 468

Re: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***

Tony, One thing more I forgot to change, the verbage...so here is Revision 1-C
1919-1927GeneratorAssmbly.jpg-Rev1-C.jpg
by VowellArt
Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***
Replies: 6
Views: 468

Re: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***

Revision 1-B...ok, so I'm not an electrical expert, I got everything all mixed up as to where those wires go, hopefully I got it right THIS time...hopefully, lol. 1919-1927GeneratorAssmbly.jpg-Rev1-B.jpg Lets see now, (A) goes to non-grounded large brush brush/holder, (B) goes to moveable brush/hold...
by VowellArt
Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:57 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***
Replies: 6
Views: 468

***1919-1927 Generator Assembly (4911, 5119)***

Ok, please look this over and let me know if you see anything wrong or not quite correct

1919-1927GeneratorAssmbly.jpg
by VowellArt
Sat Sep 07, 2019 3:19 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: New New York License Plates
Replies: 16
Views: 1006

Re: New New York License Plates

Try 40 Ford Steve on Ebay...that's where I got mine,

LicensePlate.jpg
both front and rear, DMV cleared.
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:45 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: What oil do you use for your Model T?
Replies: 23
Views: 1196

Re: What oil do you use for your Model T?

It's still to bloody thick in Moskva, just use 30W, it works best...so far, since you probably put yours to bed for the winter anyway, although you may want to add the additive ZZD-PLUS, https://www.modeltford.com/item/ZZDPLUS.aspx a zinc additive, seems modern oils don't have zinc in them anymore. ;)
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!
Replies: 12
Views: 432

Re: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!

You might want to go to your local hardware store and see if you can get a couple of rubber grommets for that hole, it helps keep the dirt out (bugs, dirt and dust can destroy your upholstery from the inside...also it is a good place to run extra wiring for the accessory tail lights you can hang off...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:58 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!
Replies: 12
Views: 432

Re: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!

That hole back there is where the top saddle iron screws into. It is just a straight piece of steel bar with threads on one end and there is a structural "S" piece inside that it screws into I used a pipe wrench to really tighten it, because it does work loose (remember the body flexes) if you don't...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 3:48 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1919-1927 Generator Parts Postions
Replies: 3
Views: 294

Re: 1919-1927 Generator Parts Postions

James, Thanks for the links, I guess I should've went looking for those myself, but I've never been good with any search on this forum. I wish I had that electrical book, because it has all sorts of other goodies in it too and talks in great length on how to rebuild the generator (something I'm doin...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:07 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: LED Headlights
Replies: 34
Views: 2756

Re: LED Headlights

Here's another vender who has these for Model A and Model T...they're a tad expensive, but they do work nice, fits right into the T headlight socket...they've also got some other rather interesting stuff as well.

http://www.logolites.com/
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!
Replies: 12
Views: 432

Re: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!

If you are referring to a 2 man tops rear saddle irons, they're not "L" shaped as in previous years, they are straight irons that thread into the side of the bodies quarter panel, right above where the rear fender iron screws in. If you're referring to the front iron that holds the front bow, that's...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:39 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!
Replies: 12
Views: 432

Re: 1922 touring top bracket confusion. Help!

Ummm which 22 are you talking about...an early 22 with the 2 man top or the later 22 with the 1 man top? And what are these "L" brackets for? My car is an early 22 with a 2 man top and doesn't have an "L" bracket for the top anywhere.
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:16 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

The back looks nice, but you should've pulled harder on the top deck sides, those aren't going to come out in the sun...the fabric doesn't shrink it expands, soooo, it going to get looser. I stretch and pulled my 3 times (first both ends, they both sides, then repeat) until I could bounce a quarter ...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:01 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1919-1927 Generator Parts Postions
Replies: 3
Views: 294

1919-1927 Generator Parts Postions

Ok, I'm looking for information as to where and how these bloody parts fit inside the 1919-1927 Generator. Small Felt Ring SmallBearingFeltWasher.jpg I know it goes either between the bearing and the housing or between the bearing and the armature and I think that the retainer plate (shown in the ne...
by VowellArt
Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:41 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Nothing other than took the coupe for a little drive at the ranch
Replies: 15
Views: 926

Re: Nothing other than took the coupe for a little drive at the ranch

Wooo, I love white walls on closed cars, makes em look snazzy...nice shade of grey too. Although looks like your coupe is trying awful hard to be an open car. Nice scenery too, but a wee bit too cold for the like o I...I'll keep my sight pon someplace a bit more South, like the Midwest. ;)
by VowellArt
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:05 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Foto of the Day
Replies: 289
Views: 19704

Re: Foto of the Day

Ah Steve, I don't agree with your composition rules...like all rules you can bend and even break them at times, I would've reworked you Moon photo so it fit my frame, sort of like this....

Steve.jpg
by VowellArt
Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1924 ? Motor
Replies: 15
Views: 891

Re: 1924 ? Motor

That is a 27's eccentric fan, 26 had the worm adjustment screw on the left side of the side engine, this one doesn't have that...but it does look like a 24, looks just like mine (in my 22 touring) although mine isn't so garishly painted or plated as this one is. Whoever thought this up should be sho...
by VowellArt
Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:45 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Keith, I notice it was on the upper passenger side of the engine, they probably put it up high figuring the oil wouldn't find it's way out...boy were they wrong!
by VowellArt
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:05 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Keith, you're probably right about that, but that isn't the only place where oil escaped from...the seal between the timing gear cover and the timer itself, was another problem. To make an oil tight seal with felt, you pretty much have to saturate it with grease, but eventually the heat from the eng...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Oil Fill Timer with Oil Cap...
1911-Late-1912-Early-Oil-Fill-Timer-Assembly.jpgRev1-A.jpg
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:53 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Ummm, Bob, what year is that timer, because that isn't the one in my drawing, that's a standard looking Anderson with a later model timing cover. The 1912 Timing cover that was used for the Oil Fill Timer here has no oil fill spout on the cover at all, the fill spout and the timer are the same unit,...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:41 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Now my one remaining question...does it have an oil cap?
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:20 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Ok how's this? 1911-Late-1912-Early-Oil-Fill-Timer-Assembly.jpg The spring strap will look a bit foreshortened because of the angle upon which it is drawn (take position of the bolt hole, add elevation of the divot on the timer housing and position when installed onto timing cover), which positions ...
by VowellArt
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:41 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

Thank you that is what I was wanting to know and was my original question.
by VowellArt
Sat Aug 10, 2019 10:10 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: RATTLE DRIVING ME CRAZY
Replies: 8
Views: 513

Re: RATTLE DRIVING ME CRAZY

Or, you could just throw up your hands ans confess it is a Model T after all, not a bloody Packard and all Model T's seem to rattle some, or squeak or make any one of a dozen noises I can think of...sometimes you've just got to let Lizzy be Lizzy (although I do routinely go around an tighten every n...
by VowellArt
Sat Aug 10, 2019 9:49 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Re: Question on Oil Fill Timers...

No, I'm talking about the 1912 Oil Fill Timer that was on Model T's from late in 1911 thru early 1912. It is a really bad design, which is probably why Ford dumped it after only 6 weeks of production and offered everybody who bought a car with this timer on it, to return to the dealer and he'd put a...
by VowellArt
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:26 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: What have you done to your T in August
Replies: 94
Views: 5205

Re: What have you done to your T in August

Took the Voltage Regulator off and put a Cut Out back on, reset my generator output to 5 amps and it seems to be running like a charm...bloody VR wasn't charging the battery at all. It did initially I think because I got it set up correctly, but then I didn't see any movement after I turned on and o...
by VowellArt
Sat Aug 10, 2019 7:22 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Question on Oil Fill Timers...
Replies: 21
Views: 1184

Question on Oil Fill Timers...

My question is in regards to the spring strap that holds the time housing to the engine. Where does that bolt go? If it goes to the front plate lower hole is there a lock nut at the base of the threads on the bolt? It seems to me for the spring strap to work it has to bear down onto the cover, yet n...
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***
Replies: 10
Views: 532

Re: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***

Thanks, I'll got look.
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:36 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***
Replies: 10
Views: 532

Re: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***

My source were the pictures and help given to me by Royce Peterson and he absolutely insists there is no felt behind this timer other than what is used to seal the camshaft...apparently these leaked a bit out the back and front too or at least more than the later years (other than that bloody "oil f...
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 01, 2019 1:42 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***
Replies: 10
Views: 532

Re: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***

From this angle you won't see anything that is on the backside of this timer, the only clue is that the hole for the camshaft is deeper than it should be given the depth of the housing. I know there is that small inner diameter on the rear of this housing, I also can't show how the housing is slight...
by VowellArt
Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:51 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***
Replies: 10
Views: 532

***1909 - 1911 2 Piece Timer Assembly***

Ok, this is the very first timer that Ford used on the Model T Fords, those known as the "first 2500"...it is probably a carry over from Model N, but was also used all through 1911 too. The interesting thing to note is that there was no bolt and strap that held this timer to the engine, the camshaft...
by VowellArt
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:58 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

So, even though the fan arm is used clear to 1916, it was not used with the bolt adjustment under the arm past 1911? In 1912, I think is when the steep side bolt was being used, that pushes against the tab on the bottom of the arm (sort of like the later styles) to adjust the tension on the belt. Be...
by VowellArt
Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:38 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

Ok, how about this one...I had to change the aspect of the arm, because it sat too low (I think I'll change all of them also, they all seem to be sitting too low and the bottom pin doesn't line up with the gap on the plate). Also made slight changes to the plate itself. 1911-1913FanAssembly1-B.jpg I...
by VowellArt
Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:53 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

Wish I had seen that second photo before I posted those last two...I kept trying to figure out which way that bolt went from and was told that the bolt had a shoulder on the end that pushed against the fan arm...the one your showing here is directly opposite of what I've been told...I don't think yo...
by VowellArt
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:31 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Regenerator carburetor
Replies: 2
Views: 406

Re: Regenerator carburetor

Just thought of something, if you're thinking of installing this carb on your 1914 it wont work. The Regenerator was made exclusively for the 26-27 cowl tank cars. The one you need is the Gasifier with the extension for the under the seat tanks. If you'll notice if you installed this Regenerator, th...
by VowellArt
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:12 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

And this one which is the 1911-1911 Oil Filler Timer (which will be a separate assembly).

1911E-1911MFanAssembly.jpg
by VowellArt
Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:10 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

Is this correct for the 1911-1913? 1911-1913FanAssembly.jpg because for a brief period in 1911 (6 weeks actually), they went with an oil filler on the timer itself, which proved to be a really bad idea and went right back to the previous idea with the stud/bolt and nut adjustment. In fact I think Fo...
by VowellArt
Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:37 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

Hmmm, ok it is 1909-1910...how about this?

1909-1910FanAssembly1-A.jpg
Would like to see a better picture of that timer. Because of the Mid 1911 to Late 1911, oil filler/timer, I might just have to do all the timers, at least on these early cars.
by VowellArt
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:53 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***!909-1911 Fan Assembly***

Scott, which year is it and the topic's title and I'll go look it up myself.
by VowellArt
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:07 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

Re: ***!909-1911 Fan Assembly***

I was under the impression that the lower end of the spring was held in place by a deep cup bored into that boss, so is there also a pin that fits into the ID of the spring as well inside that cup? Having never seen one of these before makes it a bit hard to fathom...and of course the next one is th...
by VowellArt
Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Regenerator carburetor
Replies: 2
Views: 406

Re: Regenerator carburetor

Does the manifold say "Regenerator" on it? If so it is made by Kingston, this may help KingstonRegenerator.jpg This is just the carburetor part with the manifold and vaporizer anvil. The air intake looks like this, KingstonBRegenerator.jpg Note that the carburetor is really part of the whole vaporiz...
by VowellArt
Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***
Replies: 29
Views: 1353

***1909-1911 Fan Assembly***

1909-1911FanAssembly.jpg The parts list called out the nut for bolt 3968 (as nut) and it is drilled for a cotter pin too, yet there is probably no reason for this nut in the first place, since there is no stress or rotation other than a slight pivot of the fan arm and it goes through the timing cov...
by VowellArt
Tue Jun 11, 2019 6:11 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 two-man top rear strap D ring cut off?
Replies: 8
Views: 817

Re: 1922 two-man top rear strap D ring cut off?

My 21 top done some 50 years ago has the footman loops on both top and bottom. Yes, but your touring is a 21, not a 22 and 22's body is a whole different animal (3 piece tub) from that of the previous cars (5 piece tubs)...he has no "L" bracket on which to hook that bloody "D" ring and trying to ge...
by VowellArt
Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:04 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: So tell me why I should buy a model T?
Replies: 61
Views: 4018

Re: So tell me why I should buy a model T?

NH and Holley NH are the same carburetor. Holley made several NH's models, a Side Drain, Center Drain, Straight through and the Holley Vaporizer which is really a Holley NH with a vaporizing unit on top. Some people swear by them, me I've never liked the Holley carb, I prefer my old Kingston L-4, to...
by VowellArt
Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:31 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: FYI. Interesting car ...
Replies: 14
Views: 1760

Re: FYI. Interesting car ...

A little OT but when I clicked on the link to the ad, I discovered that there were several "related cars" listed as well. One was a yellow sorta speedster. The ad said that it was in Portland CT. I think that's where Wayne Carini's "Chasing Classic Cars" F-40 Motorsports is located, and the buildin...
by VowellArt
Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:17 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: So tell me why I should buy a model T?
Replies: 61
Views: 4018

Re: So tell me why I should buy a model T?

I agree with what everybody here has said and with E.B.White as well. There is something very arcane about Model T the way she moves even when you explain the drive trains functions, it's lubricating system, cooling system and fuel system, leaves everyone you talk to mystified as to why this machine...
by VowellArt
Sat Jun 08, 2019 6:19 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: FYI. Interesting car ...
Replies: 14
Views: 1760

Re: FYI. Interesting car ...

This car isn't a 1909 anything and this guy actually thinks he can get 49 grand from anybody who knows Model T. But then he's offering it in Hemmings not on this forum, so maybe his chances are better than they would've been here. I could point out what is and what is not correct (as we all can) but...
by VowellArt
Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:11 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 two-man top rear strap D ring cut off?
Replies: 8
Views: 817

Re: 1922 two-man top rear strap D ring cut off?

Remember, if you're ever planning on re-doing your seats...do them FIRST! At least the rear one. Because once the tops up and done, you won't be able to install the rear seat back without taking the rear curtain and straps apart.
by VowellArt
Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:01 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922 two-man top rear strap D ring cut off?
Replies: 8
Views: 817

Re: 1922 two-man top rear strap D ring cut off?

The rear and front straps are never sold with any of the top kits, you're supposed to buy them before you start assembling your top and you buy them from Langs. They are a web belt strap, 1 inch wide and have friction buckles, similar to what you see on web belts for pants. One end nails to the outs...
by VowellArt
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:28 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: KampKar for sale One of two originals
Replies: 30
Views: 2679

Re: KampKar for sale One of two originals

There are 4 large cross spars, that bolt to the sides and about 4 thin cross spars that the top slants a nailed to. You can see the black bracket on the thin spars, but to know their size and dimensions I'd need to see them really up close. KampKar5.jpg This is a Soss Invisible Hinge, they're mostly...
by VowellArt
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: What did you do with your model T in June
Replies: 97
Views: 7079

Re: What did you do with your model T in June

Dusted it off, that's about all I can do what with the price of gas here in Commiefornia as of late...and it is going up another 12 cents next month too...I hate this state! I just can't get out of here too soon! :x
by VowellArt
Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:06 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: KampKar for sale One of two originals
Replies: 30
Views: 2679

Re: KampKar for sale One of two originals

Nice, really nice. Would really like to see the inside bracket for the cross spars though and examine the tent support poles (they're 3 pieces, with hinges on both ends of the middle piece, so they can fold, then you roll the tent up round them and stow it inside the body tied at the top), to see if...
by VowellArt
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:16 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 (Early) Water Pump and Drive Assemblies***
Replies: 0
Views: 265

***1909 (Early) Water Pump and Drive Assemblies***

Made a revision to the 1909 water pump drawing and also added the mounting of the water pump to the 1909 engine. This was a fun one and really out of what we all consider the norm for Model T, in that this engine block is really very different from any of ours and the head also (didn't draw the head...
by VowellArt
Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:07 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

Ignacio, you don't drill through the rivets on your bows, you feel for the old holes on the inside corners of your front and rear bow. You'll feel a slight depression as though there might be a hole there, push the tip of an ice pick or awl in and feel around for the holes, they're there (believe me...
by VowellArt
Thu Jun 06, 2019 10:50 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

Ignacio, You rear curtain and front straps should be woven web straps, not leather. The woven webs don't have buckles like leathers do, they've got slip buckles sort of like web belts for pants have and they're easier to adjust. I didn't bother to drill out the rivets on mine, I just cut the strap h...
by VowellArt
Mon May 27, 2019 6:04 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

Nolechico, If that is happening then you set your front bow too far out and maybe a bit to high from your windshield, try curling it down over the glass . My windbreaker is set just to the windshield, but it is sitting 2 inches below the top of the windshield frame also, so there has never been a pr...
by VowellArt
Mon May 27, 2019 5:42 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

I sure hope where you're at your having some really nice and hot weather or your garage temp is set to 100 or so...I set my top outside last summer in 104º weather. It was the only way to get that fabric to stretch as much as we stretched it to. We did and redid it 3 times all around the car, to whe...
by VowellArt
Mon May 27, 2019 4:38 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

One thing I recommend is to get a copy of Vince Inccino's video on installing a 2 man top. He was a retired NYC fireman that retired and was making tops. He passed away, but his video's are still around and probably somebody has a copy of it. Anyhoo, the reason is because he shows a way to take the ...
by VowellArt
Mon May 27, 2019 4:11 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

Something else to note...you always start with the rear curtain. Getting that correctly placed sets the dimensions for the rest of the top. RearCurtainIstalled2.jpg But sometimes, you just can't get those bloody wrinkles out...which happened to me. To get them out, all you have to do is loosen up on...
by VowellArt
Mon May 27, 2019 3:45 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1922-23 two man top.
Replies: 41
Views: 2498

Re: 1922-23 two man top.

Instead of using those solid steel rivets, I used Aluminum tubular rivets...I got them from Snyders. Langs sells a solid aluminum rivet that works just as well as any steel rivet and is just as easy to set as the tubular rivet I used them on a couple of my bows, didn't have enough tubular rivets, so...
by VowellArt
Mon May 20, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 (Early) Fan Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 1000

Re: ***1909 (Early) Fan Assembly***

Revision 1-C

1909EarlyFanAssembly1-C.jpg
by VowellArt
Sun May 19, 2019 2:55 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ***1909 (Early) Fan Assembly***
Replies: 9
Views: 1000

Re: ***1909 (Early) Fan Assembly***

Revision 1-B

1909EarlyFanAssembly1-B.jpg