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Looking at Ford script hand oiler cans, how can on tell a T era can from a Model A era can? How can one tell an original T can from a reproduction T can, as I know they used to be reproduced (I have one)?

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This was brought up on the Forum, recently, by Brent Terry of Tennessee. He was trying to find one on short notice and contacted vendors (I don't know which ones) and all were out. My guess is that something has slowed production in England. If and when they are available again, expect a higher pric...

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It always amuses me how auctioneers and other uneducated people throw around the term, "Barn Find ", as vanderbrink did in the title of this auction. If all these items, or even just those on wheels that could roll, were found in a barn, that barn would have to be the size of an aircraft manufacturi...

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TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 12, 2025 11:03 am
12 volt battery, lights, and starter.

Good answer.

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I'm curious who Joe Morris is, since no one has answered you.

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David, email works for me. I sent you an email.

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Here are some links to previous discussions to add to some confusion Dave Sosnoski researching handles https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/380222.html?1376315418 Differences https://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/182212.html?1294896310 Regulator for 1926 to 1931 https://www.mtfca.com...

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Due to the unavailable reproductions of 26-27 enclosed car window crank handles, I, like everyone else, has had to resort to using the reproduction Model A handle that tightens with a set screw on the regulator shaft. I have seen window crank handle that reportedly are original Model T, but the hand...

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Brent, i don't have a brass car, now, but decades ago, had a 13. Finding a small acetylene tank to put inside a gutted carbide generator, might be tough, if not impossible. Since you don't have the Prest-o-lite tank and brackets, and since this setup is not going to be permanent, maybe you could get...

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David, I've got so many of the left side stands, license brackets and tail lights, I'd send you a set with you paying shipping, but my parts are in storage 280 miles away, round trip, and my wife got out of the hospital from being treated for high blood pressure and is on new medication and is very ...

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Ford did offer right side mounting brackets. Our Canadian cars all have them, along with the license plate bracket. I have a pair on my 27 LHD tudor now. Allan from down under. I stand corrected, Allan. I wasn't thinking about Canadian or exported cars because, more than likely, he doesn't have one...

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David, if the standard tail light is what you desire, and you already have the complete left side assembly (fender to license plate bracket, and license plate/tail light assembly), then all you need is the aftermarket right side, fender to light bracket and another light assembly. If a license plate...

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Tail light, or the accessory C.M Hall manufactured drum Stop light? If you're talking about the standard issue Tail light, they are plentiful but the license plate bracket is not removable from the mounting base for the light, and Ford never offered a fender to light stand for the right hand side be...

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Chris Haynes wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:51 pm
Howell's sold me a unusable piece of crap.

Howell's isn't the only one. Some members on this forum have done the same to me.

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Mike used to buy and part out a lot of Model T's, selling mostly on EBAY. I haven't seen him selling anything for a least a year, maybe more. I bought a lot of parts from him including a nice set of 26-27 front fenders, a set of 26-27 rear sedan fenders, a set of 26-27 coupe/roadster fenders, and a ...

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I'm sure its still the same company, just trying to change their image by changing their company name. I do know that they go by a different name on EBAY. I know their reputation has flaws, but say what you want; there aren't many (if any) companies making the products that they make, and if the own...

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Henry K. Lee wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:00 pm
Sent the memo to my cousin One Hung Low and he is on it! He says....,"Capitalist B@sT@rds want everything perfect".

Won Hung Low also said, " Not to mention your Supreme Leader is trying to screw us China men with high tariffs."

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I've got a new, never installed one that I bought from CHAFFINS. Paid $439.95 plus shipping for it. Will sell for same price, but the shipping is on your DIME.

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Someone needs to reproduce a TT enclosed cab W.S. frame. I know of a cab for sale that is rust free, but it is missing the frame, otherwise I'd buy it.

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TXGOAT2 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 19, 2025 4:53 pm
But.... are you in an EPA NAA?

Pat, Harris County does have stricter emissions standards, but I was just joking with Ignacio.

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Ignacio, haven't you read or heard, the state of Texas is dropping the requirements of annual state inspections so a PVC valve or a catalytic converter is no longer necessary

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Because the 26-27 fordor body was a hold over from previous years and the windshield frame is completely different, I would be skeptical that coupe and tudor bodies have the same windshield structure. I have a 27 coupe and a 26 fordor, but the fordor was restored when I acquired it.

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Mr. Larry Smith, didn't earn the nickname, "Original Smith", for 'grins'. He earned it because his restorations are correct as close to leaving the factory as possible. If he has a 1913 T or any pre-1919 T, you can bet it doesn't have a starter. For Larry to do so, would be a travesty and an abomina...

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Chris notified me that he had found a pair.

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Steve contact me ASAP if you still need a header flange for standard, non-OHV motor. Terry Woods

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Chris, Do you still need a pair of 26-27 hood shelves? I'm going to my parts storage, tomorrow and can bring a pair or two, back. Let me know, ASAP.

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I think it was right after the lunch hour.

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Anyone got a Kevin Prus aluminum head that they are not using? New or good used? Maybe you sold your car after buying the head, or went a different direction after buying. I could buy new direct from Kevin, but I thought I would do some "fishing" on the Forum, first.

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I saw the same article on Massachusetts. It stated that the bright pure white light that LED bulbs produce, tend to blind oncoming traffic, more that the 'yellow' light that halogen bulbs, produce. That was their reasoning. I may be mistaken, but I though the article mentioned it might become a fede...

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I can't get 'paint' on my computer to reduce the size. Post a cell contact number, spelling the numbers, out and I'll send it by text.

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I have an APCO that I'd sell.

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A long time club member from California, known for having a pretty good performing speedster, recommended Champion RN 10YC to RN 16YC plugs. He said use the coldest plug that won't foul. If you have a cylinder or cylinders that are letting oil past the rings, use the hottest plug. 10YC is the coldes...

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Another U.S. based supplier to try is Dixie Flag and Banner in San Antonio, Texas. I have no connection with them, nor have I ever knowingly used any of their products. They make all of their flags, in house, except for the small ones you are wanting. Their biggest U.S. flags will cover a football f...

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pdgriesse wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 06, 2025 9:28 am
Means Garage---Dunnegan. Mo. has them. 417-754-8627

Yeah, If Means doesn't have what you need, it probably isn't available. 417-754-8637

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This is another possibility:

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Forum Members, who was the manufacturer of the head shown in the above post that has: "VTH-1000-H and 20-27" beneath it? It doesn't appear to be a Reeder head. The combustion chamber is deeper. My Reeder head has a flat combustion chamber, much like a Prus head.

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Bill, Can you post an additional picture showing the combustion chambers?

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Ha, Ha, Dallas. Seriously, the roadster pickup is a black era T. The baby is a brass era T. Who was the other parent? it must have been a brass era T with stronger genes, or else one of your T's was having an "affair". and cheating on the other one.

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Another thing to consider when using a nylon gear is that most, of not all, nylon gears must use a thinner camshaft timing gear nut to avoid the nut shorting the timer from the timer roller touching it. I think both Lang's and Snyder's include this nut with their nylon gears.

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I have a Reeder low head. Its not for sale but I would trade even for a Reeder high head in equal, good usable condition. Any interest or takers?

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Put the Rux shifter on the left, next to the parking brake. The warford's stick can be bent for your maximum convince. I agree with John. Now that left handed Ruxtell shifters are on the market, it would eliminate one shifter stick from the middle that you have to maneuver around. Back when I had m...

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Will, Why not run the Warford and the Ruckstell? Depending on what you are going to use it for, having more gears can be a real advantage. I have 1 T with a Muncie and standard rear, 1 with just a Ruckstell and 1 with a KC Warford and Ruckstell, I love having both but if I could only have 1 it woul...

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As the above posted Layne instructions show and state, the drive shaft and tube must be shortened and rewelded to remove 12 inches, if I'm not mistaken, and the rear radius rods must be shortened and rewelded the appropriate, stated amount. I'm not sure if the Layne instructions specify that a cross...

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I don't know if you have only been looking locally, within 500 miles of your location, on Facebook, but in other parts of the U.S. I have seen some 'deals' on Model T's within the last year. I suspect you have been searching locally so that shipping wouldn't be an expense to add to the purchase of a...

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I'll admit Bill and Jim are very reputable and trusted shippers, but I have used two others, very successfully and a bit more economically. One was a company called California Jaguar. They primarily had trucks running between California and Florida, a southern route. They hauled a 26-27 pickup bed f...

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There surely is more than one DAVID HOWELL in the U.S., so this information is about as useful as finding a needle in a haystack. If my memory serves me correctly, there was a DAVID HOWELL associated with HOWELL'S SHEET METAL. The business started out in Houston, TX in the late 1960's, before moving...

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Yes, there was a speedometer drive offered under the brand name of NASH, NOT to be confused with NASH, the brand of automobile. The NASH speedometer drive added a gear inside the main drive of the transmission, and another gear held against it by the transmission inspection cover. They are probably ...

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RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Sat May 17, 2025 2:45 pm
The "Black Book" IS the Model T Bible !

Steve, are you referring to the "Ford Service" manual, which Ford sold in hardback form? It has been reprinted with a black cover, but in softback form. Back in the 1960's, when I bought my first softback, it had a green cover.

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I am new to the Model T community but not to early cars. I am in the process of reassembling my 1912 engine and looking for tips on reassembly for such info as torques, avoiding oil leaks etc. I can't find such info in the club restoration videos or the club utube channel. Am I missing something? I...

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Last night, I 'googled' "pin striping in my area". I came up with a company here in San Antonio whose artist does striping with paint, not vinyl tape, and air brush and has been doing it since 1994. He trained under a well known car stripper on the west coast. For $150.00, he will come to my locati...

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Shannon_in_Texas wrote: ↑
Wed May 14, 2025 3:58 pm
Stripper or striper? They're not the same, you know!

I didn't check the spelling, Shannon.

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Last night, I 'googled' "pin striping in my area". I came up with a company here in San Antonio whose artist does striping with paint, not vinyl tape, and air brush and has been doing it since 1994. He trained under a well known car stripper on the west coast. For $150.00, he will come to my locatio...

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Where you ya'll mount these? I see where Steve mounted his. I have one that doesn't mount on the firewall; it mounts to any head bolt that you want to secure it to. I haven't used it yet, but I have two concerns with mounting to the engine: #1 will the heat from the engine be detrimental to the oil...

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When people start discussing colors by name, I like to point out that a particular color may have several names. What Ford called Medium Cream may have been called something else by another company. Color matching can be done by spectrograph from a sample, without reference to any name. For that, t...

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Thanks, Dan, for posting the color chart. I'll order the paint from the supplier connected with the chart. I'll be having a professional do the striping. My hand isn't steady enough unless I used a tape template that pealed away where you wanted the strip to go,

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Yes, Mike, I have known for decades that One shot was a paint used by many painters and stripers. In fact, just before I posted on the Forum, I had "googled", One Shot. I didn't come up with a complete color chart, or list of colors, though. I wish that I could at least come up with a list of dealer...

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Can anyone refer me to a source for Medium Cream pin stripping paint, as used by Ford on 1926-27 enclosed cars?

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Since they have a CHINA connection, you may be waiting a while, not to mention a price increase due to tariff change. A Californian who posts on the Parts For Sale Forum has announced that he is making a counterbalanced T crankshaft. Check that forum for his latest post. I don't know if he has them ...

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This came with the brochure and installation instructions with my set, but I bought them several years, ago. Info, may or may not, be current: Rocky Mountain Brake Co., Inc. , 39810 Bella Vista Road , Temecula, CA. 92592. Mailing address: P.O. Box 890912 , Temecula, CA. 92589. E-mail: budwilliams@ r...

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How thick should flanges be for an exhaust header? : ^ ) Keith, if you are thinking of making a homemade header, yourself, I have a commercially made header flange that might save you some time. it is 1/4" thick if I remember. Contact me if you are interested. Keith can't use my header flange becau...

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KWTownsend wrote: ↑
Tue May 06, 2025 3:48 pm
How thick should flanges be for an exhaust header?

: ^ )

Keith, if you are thinking of making a homemade header, yourself, I have a commercially made header flange that might save you some time. it is 1/4" thick if I remember. Contact me if you are interested.

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Does he have a T, or does he just antique/junktique, a lot?

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Neat work Bryant. Your short length of pipe in the front cover allows it to mount exactly like Ford did it. You should use a heavy, slightly dished washer on the back end when assembling the muffler. This will spread the load over the whole inner "bump" on the end. To my eye the materials used in t...

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Not sure of the answer to your question. Are you selling or buying? I have a used, but cleaned, set I'll give away if taker pays shipping. They'll need bushing, though.

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It may not be the way FORD did it, originally, but you seemed to have made it work.

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Perhaps a dumb question, but I have two original aluminum Warfords and I can't remember seeing a vent on either one of them. Maybe I've over looked them. If the original Warfords didn't have them, why are they recommended, now?

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I would say an U&J, but they are hard to come by, as is the Winfield. Easier carbs to come buy, using an updraft manifold, are Stromberg OE-1 and Stromberg M-1 or M-2. The late STAN HOWE used to say that they would make a Model T, go "Like STINK" (meaning fast).

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Looks to be equivalent to Red Line’s Water Wetter, which I have used for a while and am happy. Note the part where it says “does not protect from freezing”, not a problem for me here in Califunny, but might be in other parts of the world https://www.lucasoil.com/pdf/03_ProblmSol_Super%20Coolant_PDS...

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Just a question, unless you cut the original pipe off how is the repro muffler going to work? It will stick out the back of you just put it on the end of the pipe. Or is the pipe already cut off? Get some of the correct ends for that pipe and it will look right. You are correct, Dan, That's why I s...

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My Lang's repro exhaust pipe fits perfectly. Lang's exhaust pipes are made for the replacement pressed steel end 'take-apart' muffler that clamps to the end of the exhaust pipe. To my knowledge, no one since Larry Smith, has mad the correct 26-27 exhaust pipe for the original style pressed end muff...

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RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Thu May 01, 2025 5:37 pm
A few years back, Larry "Original" Smith had some exact copy, mandrel bent pipes made up - they were perfect !!!

Yeah, Steve, I bought, and have, one of Larry's pipes. He doesn't reproduce anything unless he can do it right and "spot on".

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Fitting the pipe on the chassis it fits so close to perfect I don’t think the dent is anything more than a dent. I was just trying to use a part I had. I can most likely make my own pipe as I have a bender. But I will most likely use the pipe anyways because it’s still good. I will double check my ...

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You are correct I have a 26 The original pressed ends where still on it but I removed them to Inspect. They are to bad to re use. The new repo muffler I purchased comes apart and fits nicely on the pipe. Bryant As the new repro mufflers clamp on the existing exhaust pipe, I didn't think the repro f...

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Cooper! wow I see it. it was making me cross eyed. i wonder if there is a matching foot pedal for it. boy they don't make them like they used to. 100-year-old exhaust pipe and it's still good enough to use! needs a new muffler though. Got one of those off the classifieds the other day. its amazing ...

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Does anyone know, or heard if Stipe Machine, ever restarted Model T cam production?

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I use: Ford Model T vintage car and truck parts. True, it gets all the Junk Ads of parts that are later than a Model T and even parts that aren't even Ford, but it let's me see almost everything Model T so I miss very little, if any.

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My grandfather put together an engine with the goal to eliminate leaks. He cut groves for o-rings in the pedal shafts etc. Problem was it worked well but would cause the pedals to stick and he would have to oil them! Chad, I saw that remedy, mentioned decades ago, I think in "The Vintage Ford" maga...

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On a motor where authenticity is not a must, has anyone had success using nylon washers under the head of bolts and nuts?

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I agree with Mark. I don’t like 3:1 gears even in a speedster. Except for cruising it never seems to be the right gear. I do a lot of club tours and with the 3:1 you don’t want to get behind a poor running stocker going up a hill in low ruckstell listening to each coil buzz. Andy Andy, No.1- my car...

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Thanks, Model Woods….I will look on EBay Gary, that's where I saw them, last year, but I haven't seen them, again, in months. Somethings wrong when a guy who supposedly makes a product and then he doesn't keep advertising it. McMaster Carr sells s bolt with a washer made in, but they have 12 pointe...

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I hate to "steal" a forum thread, but last year, there was a individual in North Carolina, who advertised on EBAY, new head bolts that had a flange made in under the hex head (kind of like a built in washer under the hex head). I haven't seen him advertise in months. Did anyone buy any from him? Doe...

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Within the next few months, the standard T rear axle assembly under my 27 coupe, will be swapped out for a Ruckstell, The Ruckstell axle was bought from a club member and Forum user who told me he had it rebuilt to go under a speedster project, that didn't materialize. He claimed it had a 3 to 1 rat...

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Allan wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:33 am
Clutch fork shaft, engine side plates and pan inspection plate.

Allan from down under

You are correct, Allan. I did forget the clutch fork shaft, but I did mention the oil pan inspection cover.

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If you were going to try to make a stock T engine and transmission as leak proof as possible, what items would you attend to? I'll list some. If I miss any, add them. All oil pan bolts (engine and hogshead), Oil pan inspection cover bolts, Transmission pedal shafts, Camshaft front cover seal, Front ...

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Is everyone saying that you'll have to replace a New Day timer, every new day?

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I have a Datsun B-210 pump and adapter that I have never used. If I ever did, what would be wrong with using a pressure regulator on the output side. I bought one of those, too.

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I'm going to stay neutral and say, "Do Whatever Pleases You and Works Best For You". I've run 6 volt, 8 volt, and 12 volt. Not everybody's car's wiring system is brand new and not everyone wants to spend hours trying to diagnose and fix problems that a low 6 volt system can have.

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Expecting to do a transmission refresh, soon, I wanted to replace the original discs to get a "free" neutral, which I've never had. I decided on either Turbo 400 or a Jack Rabbit disk set. I checked Lang's online catalog and did not see the hub and disc set, so I sent them a message through their we...

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The part of the story that is missing above, is that the kids have been putting their money in a jar to help pay for the trip also. Not a lot in the big picture, but they were doing their part for the family only to find out they get zip for their efforts ............. Dan, the analogy to the kid's...

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“Love2Ts” has a very good point regarding our personal information, and security issues. Folks who have been burned by hackers are understandably gun-shy of being so easily exposed to crooks (world-wide) who seek to use technology to commit crimes. The easy transparency of this forum is likely the ...

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I know a member has asked the question, previously, (I just don't remember who it was) but WHY, the MTFCA? Why do hackers and people with ill intent, pick on the MTFCA website? It is the ONLY website on the internet that I have ever found to be attacked in such frequency.

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Henry K. Lee wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:22 pm
GET THEM WHILE THEY ARE AVAILABLE FOLKS!

Hank, I wish I had a restoreable U&J carb core. I'd buy one in a minute or less.

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Jim Eubanks wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 05, 2025 4:20 pm
Any idea why this forum is being targeted and not others?

I don't know, but maybe Dan McEachern had the best solution; Limit access to the website to users who are valid members of the MTFCA and MTFCI and require them to enter their membership number to gain access.

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RajoRacer wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 24, 2025 7:08 pm
Am I the only one getting greyer waiting on this site again ????

Yesterday was: Oh NO. Not Again. Today is OK, again.

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Jerry, Check EBAYMOTORS for a ball, too.That is where I found my replacement balls. The only original ball that I have, crumbled when I tried to remove it from the gear shift lever. It crumbled in fairly large pieces, so I was able to 'super glue' the pieces together like a jigsaw puzzle. It has cra...

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Any chance you might be going to your storage unit any time soon? I would be interested in knob and shifter. Let me know Thanks Jerry Jerry, I wish that I could say that I had a storage trip planned, but my health is declining and I have had two hospital trips in March with another on possible by t...

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Adam wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 02, 2025 1:00 pm
Verify before you buy to avoid disappointment…

Adam, You offer valuable advise to Jerry. I would hate to sell him any parts that he couldn't use.

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Adam wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:53 am
I think “Model 720” is an early one. Usually it says “Warren, PA” on it somewhere. Many of the early Warford parts are not interchangeable with later ones and vise-versa.

The two Warfords that I have are both late ones made in New York City, if I'm not mistaken.

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ewdysar wrote: ↑
Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:50 pm
Read the original post. He signed it "Abe Pro Full"

Eric

I missed that. I was responding to "Humble's" post.

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