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by Trentb
Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Ford history questions
Replies: 41
Views: 1363

Re: Ford history questions

1908 was the first year Model Ts were produced without a driver side door.

A more useful question is what was the first year in which Model Ts came with driver side doors. The answer to that is the 1911 enclosed runabout, aka torpedo.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Thu Oct 10, 2019 1:22 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1909 frame evolution and build sheets
Replies: 26
Views: 1484

Re: 1909 frame evolution and build sheets

The fish plate frames were used on the first 2500 cars. They were required because the frame steel used was only 1/8” steel (the same as used on Model NRS frames). After the first 2500 cars the frames were built using a thicker grade of steel. Most early frames (am tempted to say all, but don’t have...
by Trentb
Mon Oct 07, 2019 12:19 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: ”Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.”
Replies: 21
Views: 1008

Re: ”Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black.”

Just to be clear, the quote “ The customer can have any color he wants so long as it is black.” is from the book “My Life and Work” by Henry Ford with Samuel Crowther. Please take note of Mr. Crowther’s role in this book. In 1922 Mr. Crowther approached the Ford Motor Company about writing a book wi...
by Trentb
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Trying to reach Trent Boggess
Replies: 1
Views: 225

Re: Trying to reach Trent Boggess

Hi Fred,

Nothing has come through from you, but I will check the university spam filter when I go in tomorrow.

Cheers,

Trent
by Trentb
Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:40 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Early 12 front axle
Replies: 9
Views: 636

Re: Early 12 front axle

Model T front axles were made by several metal forging companies in addition to the Ford Motor Company. Almost invariably, the forgings included the trademark of the forging company. The major metal forging companies who made front axles included Transue Williams, Cleveland Hardware, Herbrand, and F...
by Trentb
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:04 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Trent Boggess are you out there.
Replies: 1
Views: 435

Re: Trent Boggess are you out there.

Responded by email.

Trent
by Trentb
Tue May 21, 2019 2:21 pm
Forum: OT - Off topic
Topic: Delivered pre-T project today.
Replies: 15
Views: 1374

Re: Delivered pre-T project today.

My understanding is there are 7 surviving Model B Fords, one of which was a car without engine and transmission.

Total production of Model B Cars was about 500 units.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Mon May 13, 2019 9:12 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?
Replies: 6
Views: 1091

Re: 1908 Detroit, Ford runabout?

1908 Model S Runabout.

Possibly a very early Model T on the left.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Crankshaft grinding
Replies: 23
Views: 2859

Re: Crankshaft grinding

Yes, it is very important that Model T crankshafts be indexed off the crankshaft flange when regrinding! Actually, a Model T crankshafts were originally ground between centers. This made the three main bearings on the crankshaft perfectly aligned. But after 90+ years, the rear main bearings have bee...
by Trentb
Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:55 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Replacing a Valve
Replies: 10
Views: 1259

Re: Replacing a Valve

From your description of the problem, my money is on the valves being original two piece cast iron valves. After 100 years, there is just so much hard work these valves can stand befor the head, or parts of the head, break off. Before removing the cylinder head, follow the advice of Ruxstel24 above ...
by Trentb
Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:10 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Can anyone tell what type of band material this is?
Replies: 9
Views: 1264

Re: Can anyone tell what type of band material this is?

From your photo, my best guess is that is made out of treated asbestos. One manufacturer of this type of band material was Raybestos. If indeed the material is woven asbestos, then you should handle them with extreme caution. Even better, buy some new modern bands that are made of a material which i...
by Trentb
Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:23 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!
Replies: 29
Views: 2487

Re: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!

Bill, I suspect that the internal dimensions of you 6 rivet housing have changed over the years. The reason I suspect this is because the differential does not turn freely until after you have shaved down one of the thrust washers to .170 from it original thickness of about .205”. Also keep in mind ...
by Trentb
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:54 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!
Replies: 29
Views: 2487

Re: Zero Ring and Pinion clearance - HELP!

One thing to keep in mind when fitting the ring and pinion clearance is that when you take off material from one side of the differential shims and washers you need to add material to the other side. Assuming that you have zero ring and pinion clearance to begin with, when you use thinner washers (b...
by Trentb
Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:48 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: OT - Old Photo - Pre T - Ford Endures - Home of Superman
Replies: 5
Views: 816

Re: OT - Old Photo - Pre T - Ford Endures - Home of Superman

This is most likely a 1907 Model N, although it could be a 1906. One feature of note is the radiator cap. This is what is some times referred to as the light bulb radiator cap because the cap actually screwed into the radiator neck, not on top of it as in the later design. The threads on this cap re...
by Trentb
Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:23 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: A new 1914
Replies: 13
Views: 1868

Re: A new 1914

I think this photo was taken in Highland Park at the corner of Woodward and Manchester. This would have been at the southwest corner of Ford’s Highland Park plant. Part of the foundation of the “Administrative Building” is visible to the right. The real give away here is the street car in the backgr...
by Trentb
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:44 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Body and Serial Number Data Collection Input Wanted
Replies: 14
Views: 1318

Re: Body and Serial Number Data Collection Input Wanted

Hi Hap, I seem to recall that all bodies delivered to Ford before 1914 arrived from the manufacturer painted and trimmed (with floorboards). Beginning in 1914 with the completion of the the four big (!) 6 story buildings (Designated W, X, Y and Z) Ford began receiving bodies in the “white”, that is ...
by Trentb
Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:25 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Model T Chassis or Frame Number
Replies: 15
Views: 1288

Re: Model T Chassis or Frame Number

I once had the opportunity to inspect the frame number on a 1927 touring. The first two digits were 1 and 5, followed by 6 zeros. We were checking to see if the frame number and engine number matched. 🙂

(They did.)

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:13 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: OT - Old Photo - Pre T Ford...Possibly Model S
Replies: 9
Views: 975

Re: OT - Old Photo - Pre T Ford...Possibly Model S

It’s an N. The first give away is the fenders. The plow share fenders were only used on the Model N. Since it does not have running boards, a step plate is used instead (barely visible behind the end of the fron fender). Second are the bail sidelights. These disappeared in 1907-08 for the Model N. M...
by Trentb
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:43 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Early Beaudette Body Numbers
Replies: 24
Views: 1682

Re: Early Beaudette Body Numbers

John Reagan is the most knowledgeable person I know of on the Beaudette Body Co. of Pontiac, MI. John has never indicated to me if any of the business records, including sales to FMC, have survived. My knowledge of body numbers comes from some work I did reviewing several thousand of the photographe...
by Trentb
Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Fred Houston
Replies: 32
Views: 3022

Re: Fred Houston

We are diminished.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:52 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Can you ID this part?
Replies: 15
Views: 1560

Re: Can you ID this part?

It looks like the remains of a shim used on the front radius rod ball socket to take up slack resulting from excessive wear of the ball and socket. There was also a smaller version used in the drag link ball sockets.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess
by Trentb
Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Shipping crate specification verification
Replies: 8
Views: 1281

Re: Shipping crate specification verification

You might want to check out this article from a past issue of the Vintage Ford: “The Use of Scrap in the Production of New Model T Parts,” The Vintage Ford, vol. 35 no. 1 (January-February 2000) pp. 26-29. There were two main reasons that Ford decided to specify the sizes of the shipping crates for ...
by Trentb
Sat Jan 26, 2019 12:03 pm
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: KR Wilson what is it tool
Replies: 5
Views: 959

Re: KR Wilson what is it tool

This KRW tool might be referred to as “The Mother of all front spring perch pullers”. It was a late addition to the Wilson Model T line appearing after the 1926 catalog went to print. It does appear in a 1930 tool catalog that I have a photo copy of. The screw goes on the threaded end of a Model T s...
by Trentb
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:01 am
Forum: 2019 General Discussion Forum
Topic: Two piece valves
Replies: 14
Views: 1525

Re: Two piece valves

Late 26-27 engines that were intended for use in TT truck chassis used 1-piece all steel valves.

Respectfully submitted,

Trent Boggess