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Kerry, soooo the -A maybe means American and the -C Canadian? Wouldn't be the first time such designations were used.

I would think the T museum would like to have those to put on display as that is a item alot of us have never saw before.

I wear size 13 Shoes and the spacing of Model T Pedals is a pain for me. I always drive barefoot (or just Socks)
And set my Reverse Pedal up to be as rearward as possible so it could be applied before my feet hit the other two pedals. The set up looks like photos you see from the time and I like this better than the reverse extension plate you can...

Until we compare parts lists we can still only speculate parts crossovers but I truly believe we're going to have a few pieces at least and we're slowly making headway in that department.
I've still to pull the trigger on an M series parts list or two to start comaprisons. Thanks to Tim M we have a parts list for the 3/4 OF. OF-1?
Ran to the shop:...

Yeah, Mark. It's apparently not so new! As for poor Momma Horse, I'm thinking she's worried about the glue factory in her future.

Steel firewalls for 1917 - 1923 was not something where people adapted a 1923 - 1925 steel firewall - it was a regular Ford sparepart! It COULD have been added later as the wooden firewalls broke down, but it's there in my original danish Ford Sparepart catalog of 1931 just 8 years after 1923. NO mention of using it in place of the wooden type,...

Hi Art,

Thanks for that second act, I’ll get around to doing clips latter in the week and follow your comments as yours looks clean and neat.

I have to think a bit about the clips as this one has a second harness set that rests aside the standard loom. (Made up a tar covered cloth loom for left/right/tail/brake/4way) with the terminal block on...

Always get great service from Dayton. Heck, they made 'em originally!

John, I can talk with some knowledge of the Ford Trico. I bought a pair that were NOS. One was for an open car , the other for a closed car. They came to me with some slight swelling and even some cratering in the delicate potmetal. I remember some cratering in the vacuum chamber which was really pissy to fix. The leather paddle needs to have a...

Here is your hardware.

Good post and pic above Rich! Too bad there's not MORE youth that enjoy the thrill of an OLD car! And I don't mean from the 50s & 60s either. I mean REAL old!! Like our T's. :)

John,
It was very nice for you to take the time to help that lady to celebrate her 100th birthday. Obviously the Model T played a big role in her early life, and I am sure that you giving her a ride released a flood of great memories.
Regards,
Mike

I believe that benzene, benzen, benzol, and similar words have been applied to gasoline. Naptha is similar to camp fuel or white gasoline and a Model T will run just fine on it. It is of low octane, and has a higher vapor pressure than good motor gasoline. Cold weather starting might require a richer mixture and more aggressive choking. Gasoline...

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Over all the other noise, never heard mine, even at idle.

Anytime one coil is operating continously regardless of timer position can be caused by several things as indicated in several responces to the original post. But I can tell you this, it can be very dangerous fire hazard and you had bettered get to the bottom of the cause immediately!
What hapens is shown in the attached photo and worse yet the...

For the 26-27 cars except the Fordor and the Chassis only. The letters identified the mfg of the bracket but don’t know that supplier to Ford.

As Tom said; K R Wilson was proud of their tools, so going with this was not made by them, they would have been marked as such. He didn't know, except might be bearing puller as suggested above.

Thanks for the great refresher....going to go check mine right away....

The appearance is the same as the front and center, only longer. I too have used flywheel bolts. There are no bolts anywhere with an 11/16 head anymore, any length!

This guy and his wife, or girl friend have been making a bundle off these Ford wrenches. One sold for over $100. They always have one listed, and they always bring top dollar. Marketing at its finest !

Found this picture and figured it needs to be on the off roading thread. Haha wow! 38754F84-22A6-45EF-89BC-34ED4F5774D9.jpeg made mention to being in Florida somewhere.

After a quick review, vanadium is not used in leaf springs, but manganese is as well as some trace elements such as silicon. Carbon content at 4 to maybe .8 percent.
More recent springs have some chrome and magnesium.

Art Mirtes

Thank you all for your responses. Those are brand new, never used plugs I bought from Snyder’s 10 years ago and recently sold on eBay. The buyer was very happy with them. Jim Patrick

Thanks guys! I sent an email to the carb shop.
Matt

Ya I saw those listing too! LOL! Guess by reading the description, money is going to charity. So I guess maybe they expect people to pay more? I think there is only one band in that package.

Of course time travel is here. These photos take me back in time almost every day.
What could be better than that?
Thanks
Rich

Prescott Arizona is halfway between Flagstaff and Phoenix. Frank

That Buzz Box will show you the coil is bad, if there is no spark at all.

It will not show you the random misfires, mostly caused by a bad capacitor.

So, it will fake a good coil for you, if nothing else.

The original capacitor is just about always bad and you can get sparks with it cut out of the circuit, but the points do not last very long....

Russ,

I'm so glad your wife's heart issue has improved! That is great to hear. And be sure not to try to have her do too much too quickly until she is fully recovered. If you have any questions -- have her ask her doctor.

I am so thankful we live when we do. A few years ago, I had a friend who passed out and they took him to the hospital. They...

They come from Fuel Tank and Radiator Servicein Queensland, Australia. Much cheaper direcr from them, especially if you ordet a few sets to spread the postage costs.
They can be chamfered to make them easier it to fit. They can be re-used.
Allan from down under.

Open the link to this OLD MOTOR article to see more about the Hamlin Front Drive Special

Does anyone have experience with using synthetic motor to lube the roller timer. Thought I would ask before trying.

Art Mirtes

Looks perfectly normal. I'd put 'em back and go for a drive!

The white spot is where the hot spark burns away the carbon. It's basically bare metal.

Might be that pair of rods could be used for this? Just guessing.

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They'd be too short for a T axle. Maybe for a Model A axle???

I always wanted to believe that is what these were/are for, but they are too short for both the Model T and A axle. The only point on a T axle that they might possibly fit is the upper hole on the...

In fact I run the larger size cups on the rear axle Hyatts to make greasing go quicker.

Bob

You can sell those by the pound! Golly boxes of 'em!

Here is a larger cap size for more grease, it has the 1/8 pipe thread of course. Put one on the steering column bushing too, can't have too much grease on the Ford :lol: Besides, with the larger cup...

The one in your first photo (right/passenger side) is in correctly, but is a Model A shackle, the photos belwo are of the replacement Model A shackles with the grease fitting:
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The shackle in the second photo (left/driver side) is in correctly and Model T, see the photo that Dan posted from the Service Manual.

Yup, thanks Dan. Hope you’re getting a cut.

Much better manual - and it lays flat when open !

I was almost 6 because I was born in February. It was just the first half of the first grade.
Norm

Thanks Steve for the procedure.

This does not address the topic, but I would like to share my experience with my original tires on my 1927 coupe. The coupe had not been run since 1960. Three of the tires never lost any pressure during those 60 years. The car was never on jacks.

The car was moved from one storage place to another over that period of time, in North Dakota,...

I will try from our Oct 1926 coupe. There is no interior yet.
There are different 26-27 rear and side constructions and I really need to see what style you have.
One of the best options will be to use a cardboard template by tracing the interior of the side windows.
Here are some examples that I found from unobtainium:
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Your radiator may fit the '26-'27, but it's non-Ford. The Ford '26-'27 radiator has soldered in clips on the lower tank for the passenger headlamp harness and generator wire.

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Brassworks authentic reproduction radiator

I have every intention of driving my ‘24 Touring car to OCF. If Steve Jelf can make it from Kansas, I should be able to pull it off from two counties (33 miles) away. :D

They work excellent Art, just use copper spray on both sides!

Hank

I'm tired of this imported junk.
By all reports I've seen, the Blockley tubes are very good. They will probably fit in those inferior Firestone tires. :D

He's coming out today to retrieve his other chassis I got running for him - I'll check on the brackets progress !

I have fixed this problem like several of the others by using a roll of veneer from Lowes that has heat activated glue on one side. Use an iron to apply the veneer and hold it to the fellow. The heat from the rim will set the glue when shrunk onto the fellow. Truing the rim and installing the rivets finish the job.

Sorry.., I was thinking you were requesting info on end thrust of the bronze bushing at the rear. I got your email Bruce and replied.

Hank

The New Version of the Encyclopedia under Alpha Section , P-R and click on Radiators , you will find the heading Evolution of Brass Radiators by Trent Boggess. In the 8th. paragraph down, starting as, In 1912 holes were added in the radiator for the gas lines . It continues on with dates. Larry, I hope this will answer your question.

If a Model T doesn't rattle, is it still a Model T? :lol:

... I suppose it will fit and work in all Model T’s?
1912-1927 timers are interchangeable.

The Model Ts in the Cobb Shinn cards at least resemble Model Ts. These cards as well as the last two styles are all drawn by the artist Witt . While there are three styles of his cards, all but one that I have that are postmarked are either 1917 or 1918, suggesting they were all drawn about the same time. For whatever the reason, the first series...

The muffler with the cast iron ends was mounted at both ends, so the tail pipe was a slip fit. When Ford went to the pressed steel ends, the muffler was only mounted at one end with a steel strap/hanger. With that original setup, the tail pipe went all the way through the muffler, making it a one-piece unit. When installing the modern pressed...

After pouring over images I found one from Bruce Brakke that shows the answer.
The other body mounts all have blocks of wood.
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The use of a spring, washer, and o-ring is shown on page 30 of the MTFCA Transmission booklet. That example is on the left side of the shaft but would work on the right side too. You would need to remove the clutch fork pins/rivet and repin. The Hogshead video that Mike Bender has on you tube shows another method of cutting a groove in the shaft...

...use a piece of neoprene gas line...
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Um Matt, all my drawings are here on the Forum under MTFCA.com/Resources/Drawings or from the forum page in Gallery/VowellArt and are free to all members to use or download. So, if you need to look for something for your car, there's a good chance you'll find it there...but I've still got a few other assemblies to go before I can finally get to...

Campbell

In my opinion, having a replacement engine in a '14 T diminishes it's value, so allow for that if negotiations ensue.

If it is a $2000 heap, then mox nix, but if $12,000, then it's a problem.

Well, that last one is not fair as they (AFAIK) have never been reproduced. The frustrating thing is when one supplier sells his business to someone else, and then they don't put it into production, or drop the quality. Can't fault the original producer, I am certain that he/she tried to find a reputable new owner. And then things change in ones...

Sorry Tim. There seems to be no way to send pictures in a private email message from the forum, so I will Include them here. Best Regards. Jim Patrick

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Steve

Here is John Regan’s article on hub cap changes.

Found an article in the Motor Age December 12, 1918, issue showing the shape of an earlier Green Ford head combustion chamber design.

And a better photo of the bottom end.

The same crankshaft in an earlier Green catalog below.

The different engine kits below.

Great photo from that time. The Tudor is pretty neatly accessorized too.

Twin tail lamps, and lamp on the passenger front fender, perhaps one on the other side too for turn signals?

And that hooked on trailer hitch, probably not used much as the rear bumper bars are still straight :)
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Turn signals? Must of had...

You might want to talk to local experts in your area before you travel. Tell them what you are interested in and have them go over the differences in the cars of your interest, most brass T guys that have been in the hobby for over 25 years have Bruces book, and other resources and can point out whats right or wrong.

Looks like mostly babbit damage. That's way better than steel on steel.

I recently opened up the throttle rod hole in a '27 block - there was actually an outline of the appropriate hole size cast into the valve side of the block - drilled a 5/8 hole and cleaned up the residual with a Dremel grinding wheel.

With any of the new replacement parts you will always get mixed responses. Just so you know. If it fits works good go for it.

Going to retouch on one point made in a post above;
Make sure any shells used, the mating surfaces, are not worn. The shells rely on the roughness of the split halves to lock them together. The lock C ring is there more as a helper for installing them, not to keep them from moving back and forth.

***back to the top please***

I could really use the short one for the Holly S for my ‘13 touring. Is it available?
Dan H

There are some in swap meet trailer. Will be at Luray if you are not coming to Chickasha. Dan

'26 Coupe:
I also use the key to lift it
And access the battery by removing the seat back.

I think I have two good ones, as well as a couple of 21 Model A ones. I'll be taking whatever I have to Chickasha, spaces FM-1 & 2.

I'll be there.

If I can help anybody while offsetting a bit of fuel cost, it's always a good thing.

Lots of great motels to stay at and lots of restaurants to eat at. Come early and set up Friday.
Support these folks as they are sponsoring the Ohio Jamboree here over Labor Day weekend. If you have never attended this event, I encourage to do both!

Thanks Steve!
I kinda figured that about the puc. I did try to compare the number with the competitions, but they were different so wanted to be sure.

Dan I noticed that, but we can be put on the email list for when they become available.

Thanks Mike for the meter and oscilloscope explanations. I hope that those who severely criticized me in December 2021 for suggesting that there are other means of properly setting coil have read this. There are other means just not as easy to use as the HCCT.

I am about ready to suggest a way to reduce oil leakage through the rear axle bearings....

have two works great

Here are some FAQs about BUDD Wheels
seems to be issues with large hubs and Mike Lebsack to which you were also asking back in time

Hub Q by Mike Lebsack
other

I like to give rides during the summer from our local museum. A three seat touring would be great for such things. If I ever came across such a car closer to home I'd be sorely tempted.

FWIW - we used to have a small company near use that produced stretch limos....unfortunately they sold out and moved about a decade ago. I bet they would have...

Attended for the first time last year. Something for everyone. A sand box and animals for grandchildren to a beer stand for us old gessers with a lot of nice cars and friendly people between. We are are thinking of going this year.

Art Mirtes

Google Mapped Mission Inn in Riverside CA and drove the streets. I referenced the top of the Inn from N,S E and W for possible matches. The Main St photo shoes a Church tower over the top. The Mission Ave/Orange Intersection looks like a good match. Lamp post angle is just to good to be true and now I think it isn't. The tops of the buildings...

Could be right... maybe a seat from a horse drawn buggy. I was thinking it was a cowl part. Thanks guys.
John

That's exactly what it is... a buggy seat. No could be about it. ;) :)