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Many emailed me regards to how I straightened the frame on my T with the body in place a year back. As you can see, it is no different with the body on than with out the body. I merely used a 4” x 6” x 12’ wood beam instead of the metal beam shown here. Look at how and where the beam is strapped on to the frame and the Jack is slid to where the...

Is there another page with the R and the D?

I watched a video recently in which the owner of a 1910 Pierce was asked how fast it would go. His reply: 45 or more, but I only have brakes for 32. 'nuff said!

The crutches/doctor pic ...... why do the tires look clean and dry ?

Something does not add up .... 🤔

Summer is over for me. Spent a day bringing in wood from the
woodlot for the shop stove. The last cord or so, I leave on the truck
and just park it there in the shop as a ready source. This winter the
engine will come out for a freshening, so it was just time to wrap
up the fun and games and get down to business. When spring comes
around, I...

I got a set of these from Lang's last winter. I have not installed them yet.

Paul

Micaela
Welcome aboard.
If you would like to learn more about different sociocultural Model T contexts go to a resource very near to you; The Bruce McCalley Memorial Library and Research Center at MTFCA HQ in Richmond Indiana.
Forty years ago I set out to collect every known Ford related book I could find (I had to forego periodicals or be...

I know i have too but I ran across a part Langs sells for the straight thru float, a hinge. I wasn't aware of a difference. Part number 6201NHS, kinda pricey too.

Thanks a million!

I agree with Scott Conger. My '27 has a 50-50 mixture of antifreeze and water. Cooling is not an issue, in fact it wouldn't bother me if it ran 10 degrees warmer. If a antifreeze/water mixture (as opposed to straight water) will make the difference between running at a proper temperature and overheating, your cooling system (or perhaps fuel/air...

You can obtain dimensional drawings of the ignition coil from the Benson Ford Research Center in Dearborn.
Ford made Trembler coil boxes were made of Hard Maple.

To my knowledge TT front wheels are the same as the car, so a 21 inch rim would be a 4.40/4.50-21 tire. Yes, a wider tire can be installed on the rim if you can find them. I just put a set of USA made Firestones on my model T, they are big...wider and taller. They are marked 4.40/4.50-21, but they must be 4.75-21 or bigger, so if you are unable to...

Still have a working mag. I'll see if I can get a look at the magnets thru the hogshead cover.

Oddball carbs, auxiliary transmissions and T accessories wanted! I'll be there!

I can't help with hub caps but I can bring a Model T into the conversation. During the magical time I was building my Speedster (1966 or so) our friend John would stop by in his Crosley Super Sport to check the progress. It was an enchanting time for him too as he only drove it a few years. It was a 1951 or 52 I believe. I could ride with him and...

yup........

Steve Jelf, I was told just yesterday that it’s free to enter New Jersey but it costs you to leave. :lol:

Thank you for the lead on the old adds .Still looking for any information or copies of an original owner/ operator manual or whatever have you on this style transmission, thank you

The Ted Ashman layout(vintage ford) on aux transmissions was all I found for reference. If you find something new, I would be interested. As it is, I have enough pix...

Tom, if Zinc will work, there is a small place up by me I can put you in touch with. He likes small jobs , is cheap and does a nice job. He has a tumbler plater for small nuts and bolts, too. The big cad platers nearby are too busy to consider small jobs. You have my email

Steven, put a piece of paper towel between the clamp and the body being glued. If the glue uses out it won’t glue the clamp to the body. Just my .02 cents.
Frank

I use wax paper rather than paper towels. It makes cleanup easier in my opinion.

Frank,

At that point...switch failed.

Mag post to terminal strip screw (+)
Terminal strip screw to switch mag screw (+)
Switch out to coil box (-)
Turn switch to BAT, switch out to coil box terminal (+)

So...that ledge to switch contcacts...

1922 or so Packard possibly.

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In addition to the 2 seals on each side, I add another seal, which is altered, outboard of the inner bearing sleeve. The seal modification involves a notch cut into the OD of the seal. The notch is oriented so that is in the bottom position. This seal serves as a labyrinth. The notch allows any oil that gets past this seal to flow back to the...

Dan that would be awesome. Thanks

Hi OliyBill, I figured out why you were having problems and they have been corrected. Please let me know if you have any problems or questions. You can call me directly at Five Six 3.387.373 six. Dave

Good 1 Jim.
Ron has done 2 sets of coils for me and they have been trouble free.

If they steer using the rear single runner the vehicle would have had a tendency to swap ends if you oversteer, much like a taildragger airplane. Altogether not the greatest design.

I'll take another whack at this dead horse. :)

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The arrow points to the part that goes toward the rear of the car.

Langs was out pre-Hershey, (just out of stock, it happens) so I was able to purchase some from the Model T and A parts vendor in the Red Field adjacent to the stadium grandstands. Can not remember whom they are, but had them along to the show that week.

That would be Mader’s They are in Virginia. They have no website and only do two events a...

My observation has been that a person with physical challenges who really wants to do something, will usually find a way to do it. A very good friend of mine contracted Polio in the pre-Salk vaccine days of the mid-50s. He has used crutches braces on his legs all of his adult life. When he passed his driver's test he was restricted to an automatic...

Will the solid matter from port-a-potties work as filler.., it is practice! Asking for a friend. Mask are extra or free as you go into Walmart.., shop frequent and save.

I have to say I would have concerns with that much lacquer thinner. That stuff is very flammable. Just a good shop vac with a brush attachment & maybe followed by some compressed air works fine.

thanks for all the help. I tried most of the methods suggested and the winner was the razor blade between the bolt and case. It got it moving just enough to get a drywall spatula in there and then it worked its way out.

I also have both meters except both are KR Wilson. Never knew exactly how they worked.

I use a KC Warford in my 1914 Touring and I use the support listed in Lang’s catalog. It’s a little expensive and I’m sure I could make something similar but I needed it in a hurry. While there is no requirement to provide support at the end of the Warford, I was concerned that the mass hanging at the back of the tranny was just too much. No sums,...

Only in the USA do we park cars worth tens of thousands of dollars out in the weather and fill our garages up with worthless junk. :roll:

Measure the voltage at the cutout battery terminal with the engine not running.

Start the engine and measure the voltage with a fast idle.

You should see about 1.5 volts increase, depending on how fully charged the battery is or how high the generator output voltage is.

If the voltage is the same or less, the cutout or generator may be...

I paid 11 for my 1920 and this one is in better shape then mine, so you can use that as a starting point. The 1923 is worth more than my 1920. Also depends on how well she runs and if you know if the rear axle has been updated.

Adore all the roads seen here.

Went on a tour yesterday, some of the rout was on a highway with a 65MPH speed limit so the tour speed was between 35 & 45 MPH with a Temp. of close to 100* by the end of the tour. The first thing I noticed was my motometer no longer works. Engine never got up to 200* by the gauge it was nice to know under those conditions. Steve would like to...

I thought we had to be full into winter before we start suffering from cabin fever and begin seeing images of Henry Ford appearing in our coffee, on our toast, and peeking out of our whisky glasses? :D

Frank,
I'm a little curious about how the runner (body to frame bracket) is attached to the floor. From the other picture it looks like there is an angle cut

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In the next couple of days I will take this one apart and take a look keeping in mind what you have written. It would be nice to save this unit. My wife thinks it is very special because it is made by “Tiffany”. Lol. I don’t have the nerve to tell her it’s probably not the company she thinks it is.

It is not the same Tiffany as in jewelry (...

Thank you very much for the reply and the photo.
Tom

Aftermarket...used for any number of updraft carbs where interference with a generator is not an issue. The bottom one is commonly found with Meyer updraft carbs.

If you ever sell them, I'd be interested.

The original pricing is listed for every Moreland year in the Encyclopedia .

I've been passing on all your tricks to my 16 year old.

Small change.....

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Since you'll be replacing the rod bolt and nut anyway, why not use a nut splitter to remove the nut?

Wish I could have gone.

Thanks Terry, I've got them installed. Written instructions are great (sometimes), but in this case I felt that the two washers behind the brake bracket was the right way to go on the big drum installation, it created a small amount of clearance between the brake casting and the radius rod bracket. Thanks for the offer.

One on eBay claimed to be 1939 REO - needs verification they say RIO
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Since the seller is off on the spelling of REO, I'll bet he's off on the 1939 year, also. By 1939, REO was making big six cylinder engines in quantities more so than small four cylinder engines. REO four cylinder hey days were in the teens and twenties. Although I...

Hi Michael 👋

Looks Good !

FJ

I have a 1915 and a 1926 and both have Ruckstels. I was very confused on how to shift until a member told me remember that ruckstell is just a two speed rear end and has nothing to do with the transmission I clunk it into Ruckstell at a slow speed while the engine is under load and shift out of ruckstell when the engine is not. Make your shifts...

Well, I’ve taken pictures and am ready to list. While I didn’t receive the answers I needed to ensure my description is correct, I’m going to describe it the best I can on what I think I know. It will show up tonight on ebay at 10:00pm EST. If you view it, and see anything that is incorrect, please let me know on this thread and I will change...

Pat: Likely loose bearing on gear end of shaft. I replaced both brgs with sealed units and used green penetrating loctite on the gear end brg/shaft. I like the notion of sealed brg on gear end to keep oil out of gen housing, tho I still used the oil slinger ring. best, jb

Unhappily the seller decided shipping would be too difficult, but we’re still looking for a transmission so this information may yet be useful. Thanks everyone!

The tie rod can be turned over to raise the draglink.
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I answered my own question. Checked for previous posts and found where the late, Great Uncle Stan Howe stated they were good carbs . All I can do is try both the M-1 and the Model B Zenith and see which one that I like, better.

Although I have a restored vaporizer setup for my 27 coupe which I can use to put back stock, I also have a stock...

From extensive Wikipedia article on rectifiers: When two different metals are suspended in an electrolyte solution, direct current flowing one way through the solution sees less resistance than in the other direction. Electrolytic rectifiers most commonly used an aluminum anode and a lead or steel cathode, suspended in a solution of triammonium...

Rata Road
Glad you found the wobble issue! I’ll bet that has happened over the years when shimming the spokes. Probably in the T era and driving on dirt and rutty roads people weren’t worried about any wobble but on smooth roads and a keen eye you could see it. Good luck.

Shawn,
You don't need glass tape for bobbin plate repairs, I have repaired many > 30 volt AC Model T bobbin plates and rewound and taped thousands of >240 volt AC coils using linen tape. The important item is the insulating varnish used to secure the coils from vibrating. Where are you in VIC ? Send it over the boarder and I will fix it for you...

I also have one with the round plates, later ones were oval. Originally these tools were all copper plated (and probably laquered). I have seen instructions for this type of tool going back to 1928 (if I remember right) but illustrations showed the later oval plates, so I believe these with the round plates to be T era.

Ultra black's 95% of the time. 5% hi tack for hogs head gaskets to pan. (gaskets wont slip during maneuvering)
Have not used #2.

Remember that Ford's Model T production fell off mainly due to war time material's priorities making for shortages for car production. There was labor shortages due to the flu,
and war, but the material shortages was the major problem. A look at the 1919 production going back up while the flu continued will show this.

Beautiful original pump, Dave! A & L makes the hoses that appear to be cloth wrapped and suit the high points model A guys. Also, the little hose clamps. Any good model A supply house should have them as they don’t sell retail any longer. OR, an old piece of red acetylene hose would look fine. I don’t know why people want red hose, I doubt they...

I am keenly interested in your project and hope that the testing goes well.

Shouldn't this be posted in the Classified or Services Section?

I started this thread in response to a hauling request
posted in this forum:

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FJ

Well then, I suppose you could have posted your answer there. But then, I'm not the moderator, so...

Shawn,

Great photos. Thanks for sharing them.

Have a great day,

Dom

Thank you for your time and all the drawings. My other model T has a fuse at the starter switch but this one is a little bit confusing since it uses the solenoid. The car does have a main disconnect back at the battery but I was more concerned about something catching on fire while the battery was energizing everything.

Parts arrived yesterday.

Fine to deal with them.

Thanks all
Andre
Belgium

I haven't tried it, but I've heard of using a 26-27 block and hogshead (they bolt together).

I believe stainless steel requires silver soldering. The higher temperatures required for silver soldering are very difficult to control when using wire mesh. Brass mesh and soft solder are far easier to work with. Getting the brass mesh to hold the shape you require is made a lot easier if you cut the mesh on the flat and solder the edges. Then...

Coker shows their radial to be 31.7 overall diameter.

A stock T engine does not need a high zinc oil to protect the cam/lifters. The low speeds, low spring pressure, light valve train, low lift, and mild cam profile make it un-necessary. It won't hurt anything, but it's not needed, any more than high octane gasoline. A quality non-detergent oil with no additives at all is sufficient, if you change it...

Great pictures, Thanks for posting

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Not a good photo but this badge says State Auto Insurance Assn

Here in Texas when trying to acquire a title with or without a bill sale you have to go to the DMV and have it inspected. I had to do this 3 times with old cars without a clear title or no title at all. It’s required for them to check the vehicle I’d number and see if it’s stolen. I came out OK but finally had to use a bonded title service to get...

HIMICO made their own pan, and its clear the one in the eBay photo isn't for car use, no wishbone setup. So stationary use would be my guess.

HIMICO pan:

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Thank you for the replies. I have a Magneto Meter and I can check that out when I get my hands on it. If the Magneto is missing its a nuisance but I can deal with that. Hoping that someone just thought a “modern improvement” was in order on this one. Or the Magneto needs to be “recharged”.

The brackets you show are for the rear seat .
The brackets for the front seat are a simple L version & do not have the zig zag on the lower leg .

Greg: Plastic cased coils and wood cased 'ford' coils function alike. On magneto, both types fire during rising or falling portions of the AC voltage wave form. The magnets are 'timed', that is positioned on the flywheel to give 'optimal' but discreet firing times. Ron Patterson has written several articles on this subject, this one addresses your...

Thanks Tim, that's encouraging to hear. It may be some time before I can get the tank installed & the car back on the road. I have a foot injury that the Doc feels needs a special shoe to aid healing that has me hobbling around with no driving. Model T work is limited to topside work for a bit. Fall is here now & its perfect touring weather if I...

The indentations are there to make the thickness of the magnets consistent. When metal or any malleable material is bent the material at the outer radius is pulled in tension. At the inner radius it is in compression. The material flows as the molecular bonds are broken and reestablished. The thickness of the magnet at the outside radius will...

Thats encouraging news. Hope that we are successful. I think there is some need for them. Don