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Thanks. Someone closed it in with galvanized sheet metal. Can’t get a wrench on the top of the sediment bulb so will need to use a pipe wrench.

If that be the case, there would be no issue with getting the correct parts & putting it together now to be more like a '14 should be. My concern was that something in the later motor/transmission might interfere and that the later parts were added by necessity.

Paul

Very good. Great advice all. Thanks !! As I’m driving this particular T for the first time in years, let me remind everyone to retighten rear axle nuts before adding tour mileage.

And check every few hundred miles until the wheels take a set.

Cast type ends; There is a taper to the ridge the outer shell fits onto. When the muffler is assembled and through bolt is pulled up, the ends of the outer tube get slightly flared to seal. The minimum OD on the cast ends is about 5 at the end and approx 5-3/16 at the bottom, so ID on the 5 pipe would be too small.

Car ?? The car, guys ?? Looks early, maybe 1910 ?
Carbide lamps converted to electric, what else ??

(some of those quail have very long ears and fur)

Original fishing kayak! -- IV

Thanks John! I succeeded then! It really was a great afternoon. Helps having a great running car to go along with a great bunch of guys. We're gonna do a nice tour along the Sandusky River this Sunday to a restaurant and such. Hate to see the season winding down.

The toe-in was off just a smidgen before the axle straightening by eyeball/straightedge. After straightening it was off about a 1/2” , which would be expected. So then I brought it to where it should be. Been great since.
When building a car, it’s a lot easier to straighten a naked axle first, fer sure!

As the AACA event is on near and around the Hershey entertainment centre. I wonder if this statement from Hershey (Hershey Entertainment & Resorts Company) applies:

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Not to mention.., Mr Biden is pushing a real good one.., lowering the inheritance tax from $650,000.00 down to $450,000.00. He is stating there are not enough wealthy to tax. These are combined gross assets.., so now they are reassessing properties, cars, etc. Estate planning has never been more important
Starting to sound like a real good deal to...

Thanks for input and comments.
It's a stock timer and I know that they need TLC.
Carburator is NOT a Holley NH or other standard but a Toquet aftermarket carburator which generally works fine. However I think it leaks a little and will take it apart and clean and check.
Thanks!

Rob

your 26-27 is a different deal regarding mounting. Though Ignacio has a late frame, he is fitting a custom body and has aprons punched to fit over the mounting brackets...being late, and stock, yours is different...

To answer the question on the windshield.
There was an after market kit that allowed you to pull the bottom of the windshield back, allowing the air to cool your feet.
There is a '14 Canadian T that comes to the MTFCI tours with this feature.

While this question should be on the General Forum, I will post this;

This section is for help with the site, not car questions. I will tag one of the moderators to move it there.

I blew mine off in the Quick-Chek Parking lot. One of the gas jockeys thought a bomb had gone off. I'm sure he needed a new pair of shorts after that one.

I will let you know, It was cheap so I bought it.

Thanks for the info. Been a while since playing with an engine without hydraulic lifters. Will order up a set along with the other needs. Trying to keep it as original as possible within reason. Don't want to end up with a modern engine in a T block. Staying with cast pistons, original crank and stock ignition. Any thoughts on wooden bands in the...

Creative ! (But ugly IMHO)

Pistons should be checked for clearance along the whole bore. Measuring bore taper would be good if possible. .004 piston clearance is about right. I prefer a bit loose. Can use a feeler gauge. First choice of the problem.
Wrisrt pins should easily finger push in. A burr in the rod clamp can cause pin distortion. After tightening the pinch,...

Model A Tillotson, while be a pretty good running carb on a Model A, are notoriously plagued with leaking along the float bowl seam. They are made of some kind of pot metal that warps over time and it seems that no matter how much you tighten the screws or replace gaskets some will weep as they age. New in box examples seem to work great for a few...

See the latest update on Hay Wagon to Speedster Project I built a mounting bracket out of angle iron.

BUMP BUMP BUMP!!!!!!!

Same as always, copied from their frequently asked questions section. Bottom line says it all. Jim

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Look into the Ford 351 Windsor valves, or +.100” length Chebby valves. They are the right length, and come in several head diameters. Seems to me there is 1.500”, 1.600”, and 1.720” options. All are 11/32” stem

Got a bag of chebby s10 valves(Supposedly) @ a swap meet. they fit well. There are application manuals for such things.
A friendly...

Found a little info on Buckeye jack manufacturing. Founded in 1904 in Louisville OH. Moved to Alliance OH in early 1910. Struggled through the depression, closed in 1934. This may help to date the early jacks with Louisville on them.

Russ

Thanks for that clarification,missed that and should have remembered seeing those dual cylinder pumps with show car displays.
Here is a nice one.

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As noted, the pump hose should be red rubber......

Yep, seems I mentioned taking the hood to the paint shop for computer matching, despite a bevvy of typos!

Yes, an exhaust manifold gasket gland worked its way down the exhaust pipe. It was about 1” from the end where it meets the muffler.

Looks like both beads @ the same time. Right on. The V notches are fine for your metal stems. A bit light if using the rubber stem. Looks good.
The more you do, the easier they get.

It does get easier! Ha.. dad and I did these in about 3 hours. Fresh pliable rubber helps too, as does a work surface at hip height. No bending over. Although my...

The worn lug hole is in the lug nearest to the valve stem hole. It is slightly elongated, towards the valve. This allows the rim to e fitted Valve stem first, then lowered down, keeping the rim at an angle to the wheel, and when lowered, it can be pushed back over the felloe, the oblong lug hole allowing the lug to pass over the mounting bolt....

I don't think your engine is BACKFIRING it is most likely firing forward and the explosion is in the muffler. You most likely have an erratic ignition problem and the unburnt fuel is igniting in the muffler.

Or is it backfiring through the carburetor?

My sentiments exactly John. Continuous glands cut from a piece of exhaust pipe will cure that.

Allan from down under.

You say that you turned the clutch forks in I think that is the not correct they should be turned out so that they clear the pressure plate, you should be able to wiggle the forks when in top gear.

I would worry about boiler condition and owner/operator knowledge about it. A friend who was a state of Indiana boiler inspector said he wouldn't go near one that was operating for that reason. He said there are no inspections done on those boilers, and many had not had tubes replaced in years if ever. Even when they were new, boiler explosions...

Wouldn't be a show without a take apart T. these guys some how got this T running in minutes. Strange it's taken me 2 years.
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I was on the way to our 4th of July parade when a coil failed (100 year old poor solder joint.) Pulled a spare from under the seat and was on my way. I keep two spares in the car....one for me, one in case someone else needs one... I bought my spares from Ron Patterson.

Hi Bryan,

Yes, you live in Florida and have no snow, but Florida has beaches with SAND. Just remove the skis and you have a Sandmobile.

Quitcherbitchen and open your wallet. ;)

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Quitcherbitchen

❤️ It Bill 👍

FJ

Thanks for the update!

Glad to hear he made it home safely!

Arnie

August 1, 1919, to July 30, 1920, is listed as the fiscal year of that time.

You need to ask your question on the general forum. This section is not for car questions.

No offense intended, but this is why you find the problem before you start throwing parts at it.

Thanks Bob, it’s something to consider. Aug 30th is what it comes out to. I actually have 2 engines that I was going to use as alternates.
One is an April 1920 and the other is a Dec 1920 (1921 model year).
The engine in the car now is a 1924. It runs great but has a whole bunch of jb cold weld under the front cylinders on the drivers side where...

Glad to hear it Steve.

What Brand/model distributor is it? A period correct distributor such as the American Bosch 600 is documented on running on one buzz coil and magneto. Not sure of the other popular ones of the time. The instructions for the Bosch 600 do say not to use the Bosch Coil and run on magneto. As stated above changing the ignition system to use a...

Visual comparison.

Measured the old spring is thinner and shorter than the repop.

Hi! I got the complete pkg with hubs and drums. But thanks for the Craigslist tip!

George,, I'm pretty sure the 90 degree headlight socket was only 15, but I also seem.to recall others saw them on a 16. Probly one of Henry's left-overs.

Well, Paul, the only real trick is to anneal the rivets. Once that's done, you won't believe how easy it is.

Well the photo didn't work!

I have a set or 2. I was told they were air compressor rods to use a T piston in an A crank & possibly cheby conversion. They are not as wide as an A, as I recall. May not require the pan dimpling an A rod needs.

Chev. used 6 bolt hubs thru 1948. Theese hubs are the same as on my two wheel car trailor.

Thanks GG,
The price was right for the pulls! It just cost me some washers and time to cut and pean over the valve steam:
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Matt

If you are looking for upholstery material, you can purchase a la carte from Mike Francis at Classtique. You don't have to buy a kit.

We live in the Twin Cities so it's not a problem for us to drive to Lindstrom, MN to buy from him so we save on shipping.

Nice job Shawn.! :D You should be grinning from ear to ear.

Allan from down under.

My understanding is the '26-7 models were supplied with a brass key, as opposed to the nickel keys used earlier.

I agree completely. The quality has been and will be first rate. I feel very lucky to be able to work with Gary on this project.

Thank you for the information!
Matt😊

On my '14, since the rivets were sound and there were no housing cracks, I left them alone and just mig'd over the inside of them. It's been almost 20 years and still no leaks from any of the rivets. There were other areas that required sealing during the restoration but that's a story for another time.

Thanks Hank! Yes, that helps! I look forward to installing it! Verne

Thank you Frank. That information is very helpful.

Clutch discs hanging up on drum lugs?

This is it! While I wish it was as easier fix, I suppose at least it is fixable. Ernie says in hind sight those lugs were somewhat chewed up but he thought they were good enough to work. Clearly not. He took the clutch fingers clear out so all we had was low, and the car runs with no issues. So that is...

I personally appreciate this new information on these scarce wheels - parentage & availability.
Was not aware of the electric car wheel option of a non demountable.
They have been a wonder. I chose these for my 14 as a safety improvement over wood fellows & not wanting to go to wires.
They look really good to me.

Thanks Dan, looks like I have 2

Engine tongs was a find. Hard to come by. I looked for many years before I found mine. Dan

Your switch looks like this one with the clips...even though the one below it is a 26-27 switch, all plate switches work exactly the same and are wired the same too (with the exception of that green ground wire, that's not really on any of them).

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Sometimes your magneto doesn't work because you...

Thanks. What speed do you drive your car at in overdrive?

Speed depends on road conditions. I don't use it to go faster unless on very good surface with plenty of sight distance. Mostly use is to lower RPM for any given speed. My car does cruise well at about 40 mph on a good road (clocked by another car) whether in overdrive or not. I don't...

I made some prototype mounts out of a 12x2. It looks good, the sediment bulb valve works. I may remake them in hardwood. I sank some 6 inch long decking screws through the base on either side to make the mounts split resistant. John Tannehill suggested bicycle inner tubes to protect the straps and the tank from the wood. We will see...

Makes me happy to see you using it it Bob. Letting others enjoy it and putting smiles on faces I'm sure.
Tom

The original two blade model A fan is hollow, and internal corrosion can be undetectable, and look perfectly fine, until they aren’t. All the originals are well beyond their life expectancy, and should be replaced. That is, if you value your sheet metal, radiator and/ or skull. The new ones are very nicely made, solid aluminum, powder coated. Wish...

will have my babbitting tools and re-babbitted ballcaps and several sets of re-babbitted rods , a 26/27 coupe body and frame at this meet ... have spoken to several other local T guys that will be there also ... usually a good meet with a fair amount of model T and model A parts ... now days there is more later items and garage sale stuff , but...

Any news where Steve is now? Did he make it to George in lake ozark?

Dan it would be great to see photos of your pickup and the details you mention.
Hopefully I can get photos of this box this weekend if the weather cooperates and post them up here.

Period Parts books, rear axle 31-1/16 . A wide track front axle would put the front wheel about 1/2 it's tyre width out side a standard fender.

Motor Age for 1922 presented an article that included passenger car serial number from 1913 to 1920, cars from the ACE to the Winther. The purpose of the article was assist insurance companies in the recovery of stolen cars and a discussion for standard numbering of automobile motor and chassis numbers.

It was in 1916 that the SAE engine division...

The fender itself may be slightly warped to one side. I had a good pair I had bought for my 21 Touring and after painting them before final assembly I noticed the right one slightly warped. I slightly bent it downward and it’s pretty close now. I should have caught it early before painting. I guess I should have looked closely first.

My, non professional, machining experience would lead me to a relatively simple broaching process.
The broach would need a fair amount of relief behind the cutting edges.
The OD on the part body would be much heavier to prevent splitting during the cutting press & OD thinned last.
Am I in the ball park? I am also interested in exactly how you...

It is on! You do have to back out the U brackets all the way to get them on. Getting the cotters off, backing the U's off and putting them back on was work but the cool factor of the tire carrier is off the charts. Lang's is out of the lower stud so I am using a rim bolt temporarily.

Bob, I sent you a PM, Art

If need be I can get to him, 3 hr drive not problem. But what to bring?

I forgot to mention that this is the same switch and housing used on early US cars that had the switch mounted on top of the steering column. The only difference on our cars is the tabs on the side of the housing are not bent out to take the mounting screws. They fit over the side of the steering wheel nut and the mounting screws screw into the...

I’ve always had great service from Snyder’s also but FedEx dropped the ball on a order this last week. Kept my Snyder’s package for 5 days just 20 miles from my house. Everyday their site said on the truck for delivery and every night I get the “Delivery Exeption”. Of course I get no refund for my 2 day delivery charge…. :(

Now THAT is one extra nice T. My hat is off to you Bill for a job well done. The color needs some direct sun to make it show better but I like it.

In the first picture I get a strange feeling like maybe you should check that rear wheel. I just can't put my finger on it but feel something is missing......Call it ESP or something. :lol: Glad it...

Another possibility to where it might go - but unlikely. What do you know about your engine?

I agree with Pep. I made a tool to remove the drive shaft bushing from a MTFCA or Fordfix - looks functionally the same to pass around the rivets on the ball cap end. The description: length and a threaded pipe cap end would also follow as something to pound on

Not a piece of a radiator.

You will have to stand Andy

No chair 🪑

FJ

The Model A had a butt ground lifter but it also had an oil hole picking lubrication up from the lifter galley directing oil directly on the lobe. Adjustables do not have that design so they must lubricate the lobe through a radiused lifter.

Should be able to break the sound barrier now !

Yep. 0 to 28 MPH in 3.6 Minuets!

Would anyone know what publication this image came from? I used to know, but unfortunately I cannot remember where it came from. And if anyone has one, I would love to see some photos of #14, Baby Carrier.

That cartoon is from a 1925 issue of Science and Invention , of satire on the many accessories made for the Ford.

As for a baby carrier,...