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When was the first electric Klaxon horn introduced. What year would it have been an accessory?

Is there anyone who now has parts or repairs Ford battery horns? I recently purchased a good horn that needs some parts and will need to be rebuilt.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Tom

Building an engine with an external mag and I have found some competing info on the forum concerning slingers. What do you think?

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I’m not sure if this has been posted here but this is a very impressive working 1:18 scale model of a T Model Ford.
This is on Facebook:

23 Roadster..Starter drive ate my mag coil. A recent purchase that ran and drove, but not on mag. Not a big issue, until I replaced some gaskets for leakage. When I removed the oil pan inspection cover, I noticed a pile of copper around the starter area. I assume starter was replaced without removing the starter drive first. So, I figured better...

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I am just reinstalling my steering column after repairing the loose rivet situation at the top. Guess I wasn't paying attention when I removed the column. There are 2 different length bolts that are used to attach the mounting flange on the column to the lower flange on the frame. I don't see any real reason for this. Did somebody just use a wrong...

Looks like a good driver Torpedo. Not all correct, but the starting price seems fair.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks for removing the rear hub from a wood spoke wheel with out damaging the spokes? We have centered the wheel on a piece of 6 1/2 ID tubing in a hydraulic press and applied 10 tons of pressure to the hub with no success. It acts like the front plate is frozen to the hub.
Any suggestions would be greatly...

Would love to have some of your best digital photos of Mr. Jay Klehfoth to include in the Vintage Ford . Gotta send him off in style. Please email them to me at VFeditorMTFCA@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance for your help!

Mike Bender puts the transmission together on the engine his videos. He installs the clutch basket by tapping it down on the shaft. I Have 2 good hubs and the larger bore has .0005 interference fit. I tried installing the hub on the shaft by itself on the bench and it took considerable pounding to put it on half way.
I am concerned that it will...

Does anyone know how to get the movement out of this case? My guess is that the pot metal knurled ring unscrews from the plated brass cylinder. I took this inner cylinder (and movement) out of the outer can by removing the three small screws at the rear of the clock, but I had no luck removing the pot metal ring from the inner cylinder. I’m afraid...

I have what I believe to be a coil box and coils that came off a 1903-1909 Model T. I would like to sell it to someone who collects these things. Contact me if you interested. By the way I have no idea of its value It’s a Splitdorf.
Al Spencer. karollee@sbcglobal.net

I snapped this last week quickly while sitting at a light. Working in butler Pennsylvania. I will try and get a better shot and maybe stop by if I have some time
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Well the speedster project is running again. Im going to try and post a link to a video on Facebook. This may be a wasted effort :)

post update:
OK, It appears to have loaded the video, but I have no sound when I click on the link, but my wife's cell phone does ??? If for some reason others do not have sound, All I can say is this thing does not...

<25 Coup rebuild progressing slowly.
Have a folding support arm for the deck lid , took a guess at where it should be located and got it wrong.
Would any one have a photo of where the support arm is located in the trunk to hold the lid up please.
This is the support arm and where i put wrongly put it.
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Not a whole lot of information on these. Here is what I have observed. It is possible several different manufactures could have been making these for Ford at the same time. The most obvious thing is the size of the Ford script, which from my observations remained the same through 1916 and possibly 1917. The F is much taller than later versions....

I just heard on NPR Henry instuited the 5.00 work day.

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These pistons came out of motor that was rebuilt in the 60’s. No identifying makes other than “184” on the inside lip. Has strange relief around the wrist pins. Should I reuse them?
Tom

Any Forum members living in Califunny, know if a business called Restoration Supply is still in business and is reputable? I haven't ordered from them in decades, but had an old catalog. I texted them or emailed (I don't remember which) about a part. I got a short text back saying they still sold it. No price or any other information given. Makes...

On one of the FB Model T pages I mentioned that the green and blue cars were so dark that in the shade they looked black. Then somebody said, Red too. I doubt that, but I wonder if the fire engine red we see on 1909 cars today is close to the real deal. Are any of the surviving 1909-1910 red cars still wearing their original paint (varnish)?...

I called in to a favourite junk shop on my way home from a weekend celebration of a mate's 80th birthday and our own 52nd wedding anniversary, and happened upon some interesting tools. I'd love to post photos but my new phone does not let this techniphobe do this. Anyway, I came home with a Walden Worcester tool number 111, which is a 1/2 drive...

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I’m looking at a chassis that has an engine in it that supposedly was bored .030 over. It was rebuilt 30 years ago and never ran. Supposedly can’t be turned by hand, but says this....
Quote;
“ The guy I bought it from turned it over with a screw driver with the starter pulled.”

Thoughts?

and how often? Thanks. Bob

The day after Christmas as I climbed up I-17
out of the Verde Valley towards Flagstaff
I noticed my rear trailer wheel smoking
on the driver side of my tandem axle trailer ⚠️

My trailer wheel is too young to smoke 🚭

I found a trailer parts store to open in
Flagstaff and paid the expected markup
for a new drum and hub - brake backing plate...

Tore an engine down and found this on the intake valves between the intake and block. The only thing I could figure out was that it was to keep the valve open longer. Probably a gimmick that didn't work.
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I just spotted it on craigslist.

Happy New Year! What are y'all planning to do on your Model Ts in this new year? I am planning to reupholster and paint mine!

When I pulled my engine, I found that the u-joint was pretty well emptied out of grease. That was after maybe 200 miles of driving. It had escaped from the ball shaped driveline connection and made a real mess. Has anyone found a way to better contain this stuff in operation? I am using the pastey, fibrous type grease here.

Cheers, Bill

A group of us (4 T's) are planning on going to the 2021 National Tour in Spokane (our first National Tour) and the driving the back roads in Western Montana for a couple of weeks. Any info or help about where to go and what to see would be greatly appreciate. We like to drive on dirt, gravel or less, the further away from civilization the better....

This may bend the originalists out of shape, but I got tired of spilling gas everywhere when I tried to fill the tank in the 1922 couple from a gas can on the side of the road. I converted our coupe to 12 volts with a 12 v alternator and starter, (from Snyders). The last time I had the tank out, I mounted a 12 volt fuel pump under the gas tank,...

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Hello fellow large trailer pullers,

Yesterday I purchased a 1999 8'x20' Pace aluminum enclosed auto-hauler. My 2019 Chevrolet tow vehicle has the factory tow package with tow mode and a 7 prong plug. The trailer's plug matches the Chevy's, and its running lights, break lights, turn signals, and flashers all activate as they should. This is easy...

I seem to be missing some spacers on this late motor mount bolt between the spring retainer and the nut. For comparison on my 1922 Touring parts salad there is a big biscuit washer on the front bolt, the back bolt has a mish mash of two nuts. What spacers/washers is supposed to go on this motor mount? If it is the big biscuit washers where can I...

Kim Dobbins just does not age 😉

Join me in wishing him a Happy Birthday 🎁 🎉🎈🍾

FJ

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I would like for all of you to tell me which car has the shade of red that you think looks best on a 09 Ford. I’m working with pictures I found on the internet, so I have no control over quality of the photo, but I tried to find ones that showed some difference in shade. So if you would count down from the top and note your choice it would be...

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What Edison spark plug (number) works in a Model T? I have heard that number 14 is the correct number. Are there other numbers that work? Jim Patrick

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Hi, These are the original rear spring pack brackets and parts but the lower retainer which is original does not seem to reach slightly. See red circle. I tried a c-clamp to compress it a bit so that I can get it on but it isn't going all the way. The other side is fine. Any suggestions on how to compress it a bit to get it back on?

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Original Smith, and T Masters like him, are good for our hobby and good for our Club.

It's my experience that, more often than not, home garage mechanics who have accumulated decades, (in this case 60+ years), of Tin Lizzy maintenance knowledge are not willing to tinker on cars along side the generations now coming up in our hobby. However,...

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Steve Lang was right.

The final outcome of the problem posted below was that the previous speedometer cable key sheared off in the swivel when the speedometer head imploded and seized with 35 mph of force. This is why the beautiful new $225.00 reproduction cable with brass ended casing, that Lang's sold me, would not insert more than 3/8 . This...

I just saw a Ford commercial stating that one does not become a 117 year old auto manufacturing company without being open to change and pledging to manufacture electric cars. Regarding the feasibility of the nation changing over to electric cars, environmentalists and New Green Dealers always stress the necessity of this, so as to eliminate the...

Looking for ideas on how to mount 21 inch Chevy wheels for a speedster project...

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20201228_195356.jpg 20201228_195446.jpg I have two sets of the reprinted Ford Service Bulletins that the MTFCI reprinted at one time. These are on fine quality glossy paper; not on a CD and both have the hard cover binder that came with them. These cover only the years 1919, 1920, 1921, and 1922, only, although I have a complete set that I could...

There is this 26 roadster pickup in a garage. It was last run in 1971 and has sat buried in a garages for the last 50 years. the problem is, it has sat in my garages. It started out when I was 15 with a stuck motor, a frame and 2 axles and evolved into a roadster pickup by finding parts and assembly. Then I got married and there it sits.
Now the...

Does anybody have any pictures of a completely disassembled Hogs Heads (and I mean the Model T Parts, not some bloody pigs head), that is without pedals and or any of the other parts on or in it? Any and all of them I'd like to have pictures of and what I need is front, right side, rear and underneath and the years they came from. I'm especially...

I'm in the process of removing the magnets from a T flywheel and want to use the spools as oil slingers and as well, I need something to hold the ring gear to the flwheel. The brass bolts are 14-24, and I'm thinking of stacking two spools together (two high) 90 deg apart on the flywheel. Are the original brass bolts strong enough to handle the job...

Has anyone had experience with this tire? I need 4 tires and the price of these is really low. Sometimes low price means other things are low about the product.

I am looking for the following VF issues:

Volume:17 Issues 4,5,6
Volume:18 Issues 1 thru 6
Volume:19 Issues 1 thru 6
Volume:23 Issue 6
Volume:29 Issue 6
Volume:35 Issues 1 thru 6
Volume:37 Issue 6

Does any one have extras?

Thank you,

Scott

Hi there,
I have a technical question about the starter.
What is the power of the starter (in KW) and what is the power consumption (peak and nominal current).
I am the President of the Ford Model T Club of Germany and a member really wants to know this.
Thank you in advance for the information and a good year 2021 with many fun trips to all...

From our shop to yours. Happy New Year, and confident of better days ahead. Tim & Connie 1B415264-61A1-44E2-8594-C8DC3EC9B746.jpeg

Questions for the historians out there: I am detailing my freshly rebuilt engine and transmission prior to installing it back in the chassis of my 1911 touring T. All those shiny nuts and bolts are going to corrode unless they are protected somehow. I remember reading that during assembly on the line someone would brush paint such areas. Did they...

I am using a Z head on my engine. Would it by risky to to lift it with a spark plug eye bolt? I am thinking out would not be a good idea.

John

I am interested in starting a new, or reviving an old, chapter in Louisiana.

I’m having trouble finding out who to contact and how to proceed.

Any suggestions?

Rich showed a picture of the brakes that he fitted to a Buick. This design applies the force with floating linkage and anchoring at the point of application(top of the shoes). Hydraulic brakes were designed with this feature, except for the last few years of the drum brakes when the anchoring was moved from the top to the bottom of the shoes. This...

Wishing everyone a very HAPPY NEW YEAR and may all your Model T wishes come true in 2021

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Happy motoring into the new year model t drivers. Take a look at this video my friend made this summer of my 14 buzzing up and down his driveway. Boy does that T sound sexy.

Happy Motoring,
Seamus

Here is nice night drive around Lake Miola in Kansas. It is not at midnight, but 10:00 PM is close enough for me. It is 27 degrees and just ahead of a snow and ice storm later tonight. Nothing like bringing in 2021 while driving a Model T. Happy New Year!
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Hello all,

I was recently given a nice, wooden steering wheel for my 1915. The wheel that is currently on the car is one of the black Fordite ones from a later car. The Fordite wheel spider has one key slot, and the earlier wheel has two slots. The end of the column seems to have slots for two keys, with only one being used to secure the Fordite...

Hi To my knowledge 1926-27 rear brake levers are unique and are not reproduced. The cams are reproduced. I am cannibalizing 2 rear brake levers from old differential halves. Is there an easy way to remove these? The pictured cam is frozen. There is very little space between the lever and the housing to cut it with a grinder without possibly...

In regards to the brass fuel shut off valves that the parts suppliers sell that are attached at the carburetor, I have installed several on my T and after a year or so they become harder to turn on and off until they get stuck. Is there a way to lubricate the valve to restore it to working order? Right now I have to crawl under my car to turn the...

New Years T candy.

No gatherings outside our bubbles here in Alberta, but it was a lovely night for a post-midnight putter over to the sister-in-law's place to deliver a birthday present. My beloved is a New Year's baby and her sister was born exactly one year later. The weather was just below freezing at -4°C with almost zero wind and the roads nearly empty. What a...

I am interested to know if anyone has experience with the Stromberg M1 carburetor?
The reason I ask this is that I am working on a car that takes a Zenith T4X carburetor. It is a brass carburetor. Well, not ever working on this carb, I took it apart and quickly found out the air tube is made of pot metal. Further inspection showed that the pot...

Just bought a 25 coupe with the top light of the windshield that opens. The dividing seal is not too good and would like to replace it. The seal on the sides is just about gone. If someone has a coupe that they can view these seals, I would like a sketch of a cross section so I can look for replacement seals. Thanks Dick C.

Although I've never seen one, nor have I heard that these existed, my guess is that when in current production, there was a drawing of a finished engine block with all the machined areas' dimensions.

Does anyone know what the when new, finished, and ready for assembly did the block's intake and exshaust ports dimensions were?

Also, has anyone...

I guess maybe due to COVID, I've had just a bit too much time, sitting around contemplating things, some of which really don't really matter. (....altho' it does sometimes lead to confusion.) However, in this regard, I can't help but notice that not only on the forum, but even in well known and respected Model T books, magazine articles, manuals,...

Anyone know Stan Howe shipping address.
PM if you know it

Found this in a collection of coils. Can anyone tell me what type it is?

Other than stopping evaporation would there be any benefit to pressurizing a T radiator?

What can I tell by the color of these valves? The cylinders look/feel great.

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You start one project then find two more which need to be done. This is a case of I don’t know what I don’t know.

The advance lever, though the commuter rod, has to send the timer through a certain range of motion in order to generate a spark in the cylinder at a certain amount of degrees before or after TDC. I would believe this range begins...

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Hello fellow Model T-ers,

I just had my radiator repaired and flushed. I'm starting anew. I ordered a quart of water-soluble oil from Amazon. Can any of you tell me how much of it I need to put in my refreshed Model T radiator along with the garden hose water?

Thank you in advance.
Steven

You gotta love 'em, those rattling T's. But one day, using gasoline will no longer be cheap enough; electric cars are taking over! While I doubt gasoline will completely cease production anytime soon, Model T's might one day face the wrath of electric cars. However, I am sure that the far future generation might be interested in using Model T's...

I dropped off two wheels about Nov 19. They are now done and will be shipped soon. Very good turnaround. Metal felloes so he just put in new spokes. $160/wheel.

Evening all,

Been going through stuff for my various projects that have been on the backburner a few years. I have a cast-iron Warford 920-2 in the barn for a speedster project. In doing a bit more research, it seems I'm lacking the front coupler ball/ U Joint housing that connects the front of the warford to the back of the T trans.

How hard...

Julie gave me two new art wall hangings for Christmas. Framed photos of Henry Ford driving his six cylinder racer in 1906, and of the Ford Special racer sent to France, placing 2nd in Europe’s most prestigious hill climb.

Both were cover photos from the French magazine “The Great Outdoor Life:”

I am the luckiest....

How is this for chassis top coat? This will be a white speedster. Rust-oleum Farm and Implement $18 a quart at Tractor Supply was recommended by a friend who paints autos for chassis. Says it can be sprayed, brushed, rolled here

Greetings Model T Friends,

Due to the COVID virus, the Model T Ford Winter Clinic scheduled for Saturday, January 23, 2021, at McPherson College, in McPherson, Kansas, has been CANCELED.

This has been a very popular event in the center of the United States which has been going on for many years. It draws people from far and wide to hear...

I bought a new hot air pipe from Lang’s for my 26 Fordor and can’t seem to make it fit. Looks like I will need to modify it to make it work. Fits “OK” with the exhaust/intake manifold clamp on #4 removed but can’t get it to fit otherwise.

The hot air pipe on my 26 TT is a somewhat different design.

Anyone else ever have this problem?

Sad to say that Rich Wolfe, whom I posted about a few days ago, has passed away, at about 4 a.m. today. RIP Rich.

I think I’ve solve my problem that is a terrible supply of 20” TT wheel parts. When I got my 27 TT the rear wheels were in terrible shape. Namely the rims. I’m pretty sure you could read the news paper through most of the rust holes. So I thought I’d just get a better set. Now I’m positive that rims in good shape are made of unobtanium. I found a...