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Hi Dan McEachern have questions about oil pan were can i buy one pm you a couple of times

What happens when she comes unraveled?

Chris, if you can't find what you want locally, I have really nice originals, sandblasted and electro zinc plated, ready to go. I an get a postage quote if that helps.

Allan from down under.

On my 2021 to-do list, is to make a table/stand for the beautiful 1940's era vintage Craftsman drill press (that my dad passed on to me), out of the spare 1925 T frame that's laying on my back acre. At first glance the frame looks ok, but a closer inspection reveals that it was horribly hacked at some point in its lifetime.

I was going to scrap...

Here is what I started with and how it turned out 13 years later.

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Mine started out worse than that. Took me 13 years also.

The '17 and '18 Sedans had side lamps, looks good on them too!

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I have occasionally received the dreaded yellow triangle. It has always been because of size, although the images were no larger than others that I post. In those cases I have shrunk copies of them minimally, still much larger than enough to fill the screen, and they have posted with no further trouble. Note I said copy . I always keep the...

I have to agree, the Cobalt bits that have come on the market in recent years are the cat's pyamas, they stay much sharper for longer than other materials.
Of course you get what you pay for, some really cheap cobalt bits are the same crap as the so called Titanium bits, just cheap a** metal with a fancy color coating...
But a good quality Cobalt...

Thanks Rob, i was experiencing some withdrawal symptoms recently but just in time you provided some new racer info :D
Vroom vroom

I think between Dan Treace and James Patrick the first photo has been solved.
Jim noted the shape of the hood, the louvers and the stubby radiator neck.
All shown in Dan's photo's of the Ames, Ames made a 4 door sedan, so probably also a two door sedan.
An Ames guy hopefully has an ad or front photo of one and can share with us.

The 1912 Coupe...

Not so much next project as previous project... I had a rusted out running board apron that I patched in Summer. IMG_1227.JPG IMG_1240.JPG IMG_1276.JPG IMG_1279.JPG IMG_1820.JPEG
I enjoy the metal working part of it way more than the filler and paint part. Luckily the picture doesn't show the sanding marks. It's a 20 foot paint job.

A few years ago at the Chickasha swap meet, not the prewar one, there was a Model T Centerdoor a guy was selling that he claimed it one time belong to Henry Ford. He had the serial number check and it suppose to match the one Henry owned. He had one of the Grandson signed one of the spiders on the steering wheel. On the cover of Bruce McCalley's...

Dave, thanks. Not sure what you were trying to write, but remember this is a family friendly site.... :)

Disteel have 3 lugs - those are Michelin - they have 4 and the tube stem is inboard - I have a set.

I run 600W in mine, mostly because I have a 5 gallon pail of it, but 120 gear lube would work also. Fill it to about 1/2 below the fill hole on the side of the trans.

I didn't think about this, but it's true, the stator coils on an early 09 would be 1/2 wide, where the later ones would be 9/16 ... a pre-2500 T would definitely be within that 1/2 coil width era.

We keep losing our legends... Bob, you will be missed by a LOT of us. And when you see my dad up there, tell him I love him, and thanks. ;-)

BTW - I still have the Pierce tail light. It is a dear treasure to me, and plan on using it on the speedster project.

We'll miss you for a long time, sir!

second serie photos.

Andre
Belgium

I'm OK with their tread... it's a composite of what was available of the finest 3000 mile tires ... If I can get an honest good 30x3 akin to the NZ (and earlier) Non-Skids (which I have run to the cords) I will be more than thrilled. Hope they run well on dirt gravel roads...

Anyway, I saw that and I am almost drooling on my keyboard. :D

Sintered bronze is a fickle mistress... it's a wonderful material until it work hardens, then it's an if and when proposition - I have some machinery that dates back to the late 1800s that is as amazing as when it was machined, running bronze castings and bushings... I also have some WW2 era stuff that, similarly, you would think is 21st century....

Yesterday 12/12, Ignacio Valdes started a post entitled Drilling Steel? . Ignacio eventually solved his problem of difficulty in drilling steel, apparently by purchase of what was obviously a very high quality set of Milwaukee drill bits. Within that same post, Stan Howe posted what i consider some very valuable information concerning a brand of...

Jerry, I did say that the crankshaft diameter at the pulley was the same for all years. I did not consider the early waterpump cars. The pulley at the fan belt information was given for general information to all readers, some of who are new to the Model T. Sometimes things get lost in word of mouth over the years.

I very much enjoyed your slide show and narration. That was an era that encouraged boys to be adventurous. A perfect example!

Auto livery meant that the dealer had vehicles for rent or for hire.

Thanks Gary

Thank you Dan, I check my plans and it is the same. That is the only piece that came from another touring body that I can reuse if needed. :)

Here is a link to VowellArt for drawings for Model TT rear ends.

Thanks for the info. Mine is free. There does appear to be a spring. I’ll try to attach a photo of the spring. I’m missing the roller. I do have one on the other side and maybe I can make a pattern.

This is fun to see. I don't remember hearing of Bruce Greene before. We have an Artist named Gary Carter who lives near Yellowstone Park. He does some wonderful things with Old West themes and sometimes old cars. Their devotion to images like the ones Remington and Russell created is delightful.
They are clever fellows to make careers of something...

Just safety wired bolts, no nuts.

Frank, it has inner tube padding. I think the firewall is only 45-50 years old, so it is solid. :)

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The bottom part of the T is there, but faint.
The engine assembly date is Wednesday, August 29, 1917. The car was shipped ten days later. It was made almost a month after Mister Schlitt ordered it. We would call it a 1918 model.

Love the single-seaters. Thanks for the pictures.

Done plenty both lhd and rhd.

Never a problem with steering column and firewall in place.

But being an aussie we always try to do things without removing stuff that doesnt have to be removed.

Getting it running and getting it ready for road use are two entirely different things. The latter of course will involve getting it running, but so much more is needed than just starting the car to see if it runs.
It may run if you add fluids, oil, water and fuel. With a battery hooked up, you can hand crank it to see if the coils buzz, and then...

Achieving precise handbrake adjustment in combination with the clutch and low gear settings can be a real challenge.
Having one piece brake rods adds to the frustration and I’ve often considered adding a flexible cable or similar at one end of the brake rods.
I have cured all of this by using the Clevis Pin that has a sliding element built into...

Chris, That is great.
We will have to get him on one of our tours this summer.
He can team up with Roy Gale and his Model T from Medicine Hat. Roy turned 100 this year.
Harry

An 8th leaf and a proper castle nut will take car of at least 3/8 of that extra thread. Then check for the split pin holes. Or, find a correct replacement.

Allan from down under.

Army 15, Navy 0. :D

I don't need a mandate. I am keeping a low profile until I get my shots. Being in the geriatric target group I'm taking no chances. That doesn't mean I can't isolate myself in a Model T. :)

It's looking happy! Thanks!

I have safety hubs and sure stop disc brakes on my 1917 Touring. The combination goes together very well and is recommended by a friend who is a highly reputable classic car restorer to all his Model T customers. He did my install and also installed new axles (which are 1/16th of an inch longer) as both originals had significant scoring. I am very...

Use a plane and depth check to see if the housing is bent. If it not, race the outer sections of the housing tube with a straight edge, mark, heat and bend back. Never seen a Ruxstell casting bend that much the radius rods could not take up.

All the Best,

Hank

What Jerry said. Most of the places I've been, E-10 is the least expensive. Some people tell horror stories about bad experiences with it, but I use it in everything I drive (1915, 1923, 1945, 1951, 1973, 2008), and have no trouble* with it. I drive often enough that it doesn't sit for ages. I once tried super-cheap E-85 and got such lousy mileage...

Ditto
Great story!

I sent a message to the seller noting that the lens was for a Model A and that Synders has the following for sale. :P

Frank B, The words we use for numbers date back at least as far as the Roman Empire .....
Latin was widely taught in higher education (even most high schools) from centuries back until less than one century ago. Most people with higher education around 1900 had at least a basic understanding of Latin ....

Just for the record I was making a...

Great! Happy Holidays.

What it is supposed to look like when polished

Two pieces of sage advice given. Install the frame first to be sure it fits. Cut a masonite template to fit the frame. That way you know it will fit your application.
With body parts, timber kits etc. all need work to get them to fit. They are not precision engineered articles, so the work must be done to make them fit each application.

Allan...

Karl, I would not wait until you have the problem fixed before meeting with the Spokane club. Get in first and you will find help with any problems you may encounter.
Allan from down under.

Joe,
I used the Sure Stop system. The components are of the highest quality and go together well. Unlike mechanical brakes you don't have to periodically adjust them. They also include a reliable brake light switch activated by hydraulic pressure. Under routine driving only a slight pedal pressure is needed to stop. If you stomp the pedal you can...

Parts book shows in 1912 the list of parts for the first 2500, the magneto is not listed, but,
In 1911 with the recommendation of substituting magneto of later design, coil and fly wheel for cars up to 20500.
I did read at some time that the magneto was up graded because those tin ones would flex to much.

Hello,
I believe I know this car, the owners and about the accident. If I remember correctly this accident happened close to fifteen years ago.
First the husband, wife and their dog all survived. If I remember correctly the husband was thrown from the car with steering wheel still in his hands and I believe suffered shoulder injuries. The wife...

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thank you very much for your help!

Was this style side curtain an option? Not all '26-7 touring cars have this do they. George

Great thanks Dan

Okay. I'll bite.

thank you all for your informative replies. Of the 6 TT frames I have recently checked, 3 of them have the e-brake shaft still installed with the top of the neutral shoe 3 from the edge of the shaft. These look to be original fitment as the bolts holding it together still have the split pins installed albeit very rusty. the other frames do not...

I agree with Rich that this must have been a flawed casting from the get-go as the difference in condition between the sides is quite extreme. I will look into replacing it, thanks. I tried to re-lap it about 6 months ago and it seems like it didn't last very long.

John,
Of course you can ask questions like this! You will find lots of info on the forum.

Lots of great photos of Model T ambulances here:

David O'Neal's build:

Gustaf Bryngelson build (he made two):

Other discussions with nice photos:

and:

There are a number of different types of ambulances that were made. Early on ambulances were...

There is a Z tool for the camshaft nut. I have an early version, T2333. Like the flywheel wrench, it has a real dogleg offset, which causes both tools to crank off the nut well before they are properly tight. This damages the nut and the wrench.
On the camshaft nut I keep the wrench in place by slipping a big washer over the neck on the nut, a...

Leather strips harden and shrink over time. Cotton webbing will not, but the ends will fray. Modern synthetics will e easy to seal on the end with heat to stop the fraying, but finding an acceptable colour webbing may be a challenge. You have choices.

Allan from down under.

If the car is inside, out of the wind and weather, I'd just use some old sheets. They'll keep the dust off while allowing the car to breathe. a cover designed to protect a car outside would be overkill.

I like the sheets idea, they breathe. another option just light weight plastic drop cloth (easy on off- get a new one when dirty). But I...

Thanks , Mark,Jay, Dan,Jim, & Frank for all the information and help. I do not think I will ever use the key cutter. Is there any interest in this?
Dan Hatch and Chris B. I could have set it on this one for display😏 5E034752-C115-4F11-A407-070D3C46F12D.jpeg and used that table for my fat pine kindling. 81B57A77-85F1-4E8F-AA6A-8C25E5CADE69.jpeg 😆

THANKS SINCERELY TO ALL THE FOLKS WHO REPLIED TO THIS AD. I DECIDED I WILL NOT BE NEEDING AN APPRAISER AT THIS TIME.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS, STAY WELL, PAUL

Do they still have their V8 Model T engine?

Didn’t see it, but didn’t know it exists

And to complicate what has been said above, some new is inferior to new old stock, and other new parts are better. Example, SKAT crankshafts. However, some parts which show when you look at the car are not the same, such as Champion spark plugs. The older ones could actually be disassembled for cleaning where the newer ones must either be...

it ratchets it in one direction and prevents it from spinning in the other.

I have a couple in my box of miscellaneous plugs, but I haven't tried them in a car.

Not sure who it is in the photograph, but it was likely taken up in one of the the “coal region” towns of central Pennsylvania where part of my family is from.

It was cheap entertainment for someone I’m sure!

As always thanks for the advice.

If not out of round and a crack test, that crank would polish up just fine for service again.

I agree. Probably looks better than the cranks in my cars right now, (and a bunch of others too).

Bob was a most unusual fellow. He'd been suffering from metastatic cancer for years. Despite that, he hosted a great one-and two-cylinder tour fromm Chatauqua, NY, a few years back. He and Jill took their topless 1908 Buick to the Lansing-Dearborn run and the Old Car Festival at least twice - and, when I say took, I mean they drove it to and home...

Ed,

Congratulations! It looks really great. And it is an encouragement to many of us to get our project finished or maybe going again.

Respectfully submitted,

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As Steven pointed out, a new Ruckstell fiber thrust washer is inexpensive and can easily be sanded to the needed thickness where the differential neither wiggles side to side nor locks up when the casing bolts are drawn down. I secured my fiber washer on a workbench, as shown, making sure the screws were below the washer surface. Then hand sanded...

I know Blue Lake is a long ways from Los Angeles, but I'm here to help with pictures and data. I built my p/u from original parts, so I was able to become knowledgeable on just about everything. The project took seven years, and no two parts came from the same car. My pickup box was a rust free original too, but had been converted into a trailer...

Using calipers for such measurements is not usual practice. To accurately measure both pistons and cylinder bores, you need internal and external micrometers. There is no way a bore can be measured with calipers, other than at the deck.

Allan from down under.

They do kind of grow on you, don't they? I enjoy going on Model T trips.

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OK Thanx for that I'm in the North Island (waikato) was hoping to find some one locally, I'll keep surching, Ill contact the nz model t club they must have a hcct or no where one is.

Thanks guys, I knew it bolted to the frame, I just needed to know if it was to the outside or the inside and now I know. Pictures worked great. Tim in Omaha

Keith

There are cotters in the end of the engine pan bolts on the early T's. Don't know the date they were eliminated, but likely in '12?

Here is an award winning early T, you can even see the reflection of that cotter in the gleam of the shiny Ford black finish :lol:

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And Allan, yes me too, I...

Bruce is correct. The 26-7 wide brake drum transmission will fit as long as you use the original narrow band. It has the advantage of being one uninterrupted surface on which the band runs, rather than the worn two piece surface of the narrow brake drum with the outer diameter of the driven plate as part of the braking surface. These two...

You HAVE to bake out the oil- all of it and it does take patience. Back in the days of vapor degreasers and trichlor, it was much easier, as those do a pretty good job of pulling any oil out. Also, the newer tig machines with adjustable duty cycles help a lot as you can set the duty cycle to clean the weld area. Older machines with a set 50-50...