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Here is some Minnesota local history concerning production of Model T’s and the glass needed for the cars. Picture shows loading of new cars on a barge in the Mississippi River at St. Paul in 1925.

Rummaging today for another project and I came across this original model t ford gas line. It is seamed brass tubing, hot tin dipped. NOT PLATED ! For anyone that cares, I think this could be easily replicated starting with copper/nickel brake line stock now available. ( Cu/Ni brake line) D0FE9B0C-D7BD-4A34-9A13-58BB9845037D.jpeg

I was looking at Detroit and the Dodge factory. That factory was made for them to make Dodges from what I could tell. If the Dodge Brothers were making parts for Henry to build the Model A, Model B, etc., were they building them in numerous small buildings all over town?

There is an auction on February 12th, 2021 at 11:15 am.

It will be at 17080 SW Purity Springs Rd

I’ve seen video of the property. There are at least 6 unrestored but needing restoration Model T Fords there: several tourings, a TT truck, a couple of coupes, a couple of sedans, sheet metal, wooden body parts, rims, tires, etc.

Here’s a link:

Hi all,
Looking at my Holley NH that I'm restoring, I noticed that the 2 drilled passages at the throttle plate are both showing while the throttle is closed (see pic). Is this normal? Should they both be exposed when the throttle is closed or should the throttle cover the inner one? Thanks.
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There are questions about how to navigate the photo gallery but I can't even find a photo gallery. I used to like the gallery in the old forum, but can't even find that. The home page has changed so I can't find anything except this new forum. Do we have a gallery showing pictures of the various year cars? Often people post questions about what...

My 1921 came to me without any hubcaps. During shopping on eBay I see differences in hub caps. Which design is correct for a 1921 with Non Demountable wheels?

I just saw these on Youtube and thought I would post them here. The camera work is absolutely horrible but it does show a huge lot of rusty and rotting piles of Model T and Model A stuff (and later 30's Fords). I have included a link to 2 different videos and a link to the upcoming auction.

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T Coupe is from October 1926 and this is the rear piece of wood on top which I was going to duplicate and replace but then I got to thinking that it does not look like anything else I have seen online. The first photo is the wood on the top layer, removed. The second is the remnants of a wide piece. So, is this correct or has someone monkeyed with...

I started a blog website showing the restoration of my 1922 or 23 Center Door Sedan.

It is a work in progress, and all of the posts are today even though some of the work was done over 8 months ago.

Check it out.

I added a update to the thread below. on Friday Jan 15th

This project is going to drive me nuts. I have not started the car in over a week. Everything was OK last time I ran the engine. I thought I would start the engine for another heat cycle while I was testing all the wiring I just installed.

After the engine ran less than a minute It warmed...

I want to flush my engine block water jackets free of rust and I was wondering what is the cheapest stuff to use. I am debating about evaporust, because of the price.

I just bought a model T and not sure what year it is or body style.
I think it is a 1915. I have more pictures I can send you if anyone can help me with this.
Thanks

You'd think ideally that 0 ohms would be the ideal amount. In my coil box, there are certain things that I, can not for the life of me, get below 0.3 ohms.

I've soldered the posts to the cleaned up bronze contacts, and before and after soldering, 0.3 ohms was the lowest I could get between both contact and screw, and even contact and nuts. I even...

I am trying to repair a few NH carburetors.
As they were very rusty, I soak them for 24 hours in a rust remover.
After having cleaned up everything some threads are wide and need a repair.
The thread size I am looking for are:
The thread of the spray needle;
The thread of the float valve;
The thread of the drain valve in the carburetor housing;...

Many many years ago, before Covid, before the new forum, before insanity, some one posted a picture of Dad’s Puzzler from a Ford, Lincoln, Fordson dealer in Hornet NY. I made a few of the puzzles for friends. I need to make another, which is easy, but don’t have a good copy of the original picture. I can try to click, copy edit what I have but it...

Thank you to all who have contributed to my addiction! I was able to find another two keyboards that I didn’t know existed. That now leads me to another question. Other than these, what other keyboards were made? Surely someone has something different hanging on their wall. At this point I’m just genuinely curious. I’m still always looking to...

I hope Mr. McKrill is demonstrating that the rear seat problems of the 1913 touring car have been solved !! Magic Valley area, Idaho. I'll see if I can find more on McKrill, Ford agent.

Pratt Lampert Cherry Bark stain was discontinued 2 years ago. I just found out when I went to purchase some for my latest project. This is the closest color to the original used on early Ford firewalls.
I know of at least 4 Stynoski winning cars that used this stain.

I live in the sticks and a local hardware store has 4 quarts left. They had 5 :D...

Are 26/27 wood spoke wheels or any others a smaller diameter than the 19/25 wheels? I have wheels from a 22 touring with demountable rims that measure approx 23 inches in diameter (without the rims) and a set offered for I saw for sale measures approx 21 inches in diameter. Thanks, Art

I have a want ad for a speedster gas tank on the classifieds that hasn’t gotten any responses. I have a gas tank that has been sealed with sealant and now a baffle has come loose and is scraping off the sealant which clogs the gas line. It also has a fill neck that does not seal well to the cap. My question for the forum is: Can a gas tank be...

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Who is it that repairs amp meters for HCCT?
If you do not want to post here, email me at address in pictures.
Thanks Dan
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Hi, I have superficial voids on a few spokes on different wheels. I am planning to fill them with this Bondo for wood product for 'hard to stick surfaces' I already bought. Good? Hey the label says 'Professional' that means it has to be. :D Any reviews or suggestions welcome.

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When the 1914 came to me, the headlights had been converted to electric bulbs. About 15 years ago I had de-converted a friend's car from bulbs back to gas and I wanted to do it now on this car.

After removal of the bulbs and wires and replacing it with burners and gas pipe and hose, it was pretty much just a matter or putting the calcium carbide...

I'm trying to contact mr. Bell, I've been unable to contact him through email.

Came across a guy who appears to be harvesting old car photos off the internet. He had some interesting Model T photos, so I will share them with you. 7D4A2F85-0DA9-476B-80C2-24527419B6D5.jpeg 28BB33D7-0871-411D-B06A-3892A67F8F00.jpeg 921F7C73-8620-48BF-808E-30EA2E7832E3.jpeg 64DF2611-4D33-45D0-850D-39ADE18EA8E9.jpeg

The white one has Ford script the other does not. I am not sure where I obtained either one of these. They are slightly different sizes. I wonder where it came from?

I just got off the phone with Dennis and he said it’s full steam ahead with the Luray, VA swap meet for 2021. I’ve never been before but seeing as how Marietta got cancelled, we may have to drive over and check it out. He promised we would not be disappointed. And reviewing the previous photos, I’d say he’s right!!!

I congratulate members/vendors who make new stuff to fill a need we all have for our restorations. However, modern manufacturing methods make really sharp, accurate products which are like peas in a pod, whereas most original parts are more individual, largely as a result of the different methods used to manufacture them.
Dan Hatch has machined...

Does anyone have a solution to leaky radiator hose connections? I’ve tightened the clamps but still leaks.

Seems like a non setting sealant might be in order?

One of my front fender hangers is bent. I put a big pipe wrench and extended it with a pipe for more leverage. That straightened it a bit but it still remains somewhat bent. Is there a better way? -- IV

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I'm planning to tow my '22 Center Door from its current storage unit in central NJ to my house in Virginia. Under normal conditions, the drive is roughly 200 miles of mostly I-95. I'm fairly experienced with hauling trailers and driving very large vehicles, but have never towed anything as delicate as a Model T before. I don't have...

On January 12th, 1904, Henry Ford became the first American driver driving a racer made in the U.S. to set the world mile speed record. He also became the first man to drive a mile under 40 seconds. He did it after rebuilding his 1902 built racer (some dispute whether it was 999 or Arrow) that had been wrecked in in 1903 at the Wisconsin State...

Does anyone here know what the Ford Service Station Starter/Generator test stand is?
I am looking for a manual for it. Will post a picture tomorrow. Thanks, Dan.

From an email we received couple days ago.
Hope things get better.

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The ice was melting.

Wonder what it is like to drive a Model K on the ice?

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Does anyone have a contact or source for someone who re-builds or restores horns. Would like to get mine working again, any input would be great.

The brass flat rivets that hold the insulators to the brush plate holder, where would I find them, I've checked most vendors and they don't list them.

Hey all,
I am looking to buy the hub thread chaser.
Number by Lang is 2815T, by Snyders T-2815-T.
Does any one out there know where I can buy one , on both places it is backorder and no date to be available again.

Thanks
Andre
Belgium

Here in the deep South, it rarely snows. The last time was about 12 years ago. We woke up this morning, to a white blanket, so I got the Coupe out, and we drove to the city park, and took some photos. It was still coming down, at 8:30 am when I took these. Screenshot_2021-01-11_13-21-30.png

This is my first post and want to share this successful re-purposing of a 1921 Model T Engine & Cylinder Head. I have a 1921 T Touring and bought these before Thanksgiving not completely knowing how I wanted to display them in our home. Also, want to thank some of the people who’ve helped fuel my curiosity and passion of studying early Ford...

Need some help with a screw set for a 26/7 touring. I bought a pack of interior trim screws at Carlisle a while back and I'm trying to figure out where they go. As far as I can tell the 7 circled in blue are for the dashboard to the cow. The ones circled in orange were ordered from Lang's and Are for the switch plate. I'm thinking that the ones in...

What is the width of a 1922 coupe body at the belt line side to side?

Looking for information on these spark plugs
they look to be 2 pc. plugs, with only T marking on them, Bob

I'm getting a pair of brake drums ready for installation on rebuilt wheels. I'm painting this outside but I'm not sure what to do with the inside (the surface which the brake pads rub on.) These surfaces are primed but one of the drums accumulated some moisture and has some minor surface rust. I'm afraid that the primer on them and any paint I...

I drove to Ohio in November to see the Klepingers and to visit Stutzmans. I dropped off 2 wheels and had a short visit
with Arlin, Noah's son. They are the only 2 that work there. I asked him to please mail the wheels back to me. I had
already taken them apart and cleaned them. I gave him 2 of my old spokes so he knew what size to make. I was...

I see two different replacement battery horn buttons on vendor websites (not talking about the earlier headlight switch version). Why did the button shape change in 1926? Are the housings different?

I've never been to Hershey. I guess I first started to hear about it in the 1970's.
This was found on youtube:

See the tank at about 5:12or so in the video.

Is there any difference in flywheels, from 1919 thru 1926.
Thanks in advance

I'm putting a top on a 1916. It had the original top on it. When I removed the original there was no evidence of a front windshield flap. When I installed tops on other two man types I used the 23-25. type flap because they were just drivers and that type is better. Questions are: Did they all have front flaps?
What does it tack to? Looking at the...

Thank you all for your great input on my original post! However, based on the advice given, am I to understand that this counterweighted crank cannot be successfully balanced statically? If so, why?

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Anyone have any handy tips on the Vaporizer Carb Choke assembly?
There is a spring under the lever cap, which I can see only can fit one way. What I need to know is the orientation of the tab lever on the inner end of the choke shaft. It is held in place with a pin, but what is the orientation of it supposed to be, relative to the orientation of...

So I was fortunate enough to walk this out the front door of someones Ebay store without anyone stopping me (labeled as a Stevens Mystery Tool). Overall, in excellent condition, not beaten up or damaged in any way, just the normal problem that I have always had when it comes to finding/buying tools like this over the last 60 years, something...

Since the Speedster project is now running, Its time to think about driving it.

I have been oiling the push rod guides and the valve stems with my little pump oiler. But it is a real mess each time. I know that this thing is going to be an oily beast but I hope to keep it to a minimum. The Rajo 4 valve has a valve cover but it is almost useless....

In ignorance I used zinc ammonium chloride as a flux when soldering mag coils. Subsequently I learned that it will corrode copper, so I need to get rid of any that may still be present ( I've been searching the internet to find what will neutralize the stuff, and not having much luck. It doesn't help that I never even took high school chemistry. I...

So my son today told me that I owed him 0.60 cents for fixing the windshield hinge, as per the Ford Schedule Of Repair Charges. When I went to look it up (I want to be sure that I am throwing the right number of pennies at him when he is not looking), I saw something that caught my eye that I wanted to ask here on the Forum. On page 7, under the...

The MTFCA Annual Meeting scheduled for February 26th-27th has been cancelled. The Annual Meeting has been moved to Thursday July 8th, 2021 as part of the upcoming National Tour in Spokane Washington. The Greater St. Louis Chapter, who was scheduled to sponsor the annual meeting, has agreed to host the 2022 Annual Meeting.

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The later mag rings have insulators like this under the coils. The only double stack mag ring I've inspected is the one I'm rebuilding, and it was done before, maybe fifty or sixty years ago. It didn't have them. Should I use these? What are they supposed to do? The coils are already insulated with tape and varnish, so why...

So, I believe my 23 has been upgraded with a newer tranny. It has the large brake drum, and the hogshead has the screw in mag post. However, it still has the small pedals. Looking at the hogshead, it appears that the mag post area has been welded. Would it have been common to replace the boss of the mag plug, or is the welded boss just the way the...

I have to repaint the bottoms of the fender on my 15 touring car. I was wonder what other folks have done, not looking for a show car finish. I drive a lot of dirt and gravel roads here in Vt.
Thanks
Fitz

Does anyone know anything about these Pistons. I also have a set of cross section rods that came with them.
You can see in the first & second photo were they were electrically welded the skirts together.

Next spring I am planning to install hydraulic rear brakes (please no debates here). I'd like to buy a brake pedal to have the tab welded on and keep my original pedal intact. I'm looking at this one. The shaft is shot but does the cam look worn to you? This will fit my 26 Touring, right?
Thanks,
Mike

Hi all
I have two different brands of accessory brakes was wondering if anyone is familiar with either of these sets and/or has any info or literature on either of these. They both anchor at the rear similar to original rocky mountains so I'm thinking that they should work similar to original rockies. Of course they would need to be cleaned up...

For years the Horseless Carriage Club of Southern California has had the Holiday Motor Excursion. You probably have guessed we couldn't have it for the first time in 60 years, because of the virus. So, some of our members decided to do the Rose Parade route down Colorado Blvd. on New Years morning anyway. There was just our group, plus several non...

I'll be listing a number of Model T parts for sale in the next few weeks. I want to buy an out of the ordinary brass era car. Any of these parts offered for sale, could be given at no cost, for a lead resulting in the purchase of car as described. I have quite a large collection of T parts and goodies. If you are looking for items not listed,...

I tried to go to the Rottlieb website and It says the website can't be found, is it a temporary outage, or did they take it down for good?

Purchase 3/4 oak finished on both sides plywood to make firewall for my speedster build. Think I would stain with cherry and then a good coat of varnish. Does that sound appropriate? If not please give me some advise. Thank you, Don Hanson

About a year ago I found and was able to purchase a Stevens Front Axle re-facer in its original box. In all my years of messing with Ts it is the only one I have ever seen.

I needed to change the front axle of the Speedster project to a dip style axle because the standard Ford axle would hit the hand crank. While the dip axle I have is in...

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I have access to a bunch of these bars of Babbitt, wondering if it is any good. Opinions?
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When was the first electric Klaxon horn introduced. What year would it have been an accessory?

Is there anyone who now has parts or repairs Ford battery horns? I recently purchased a good horn that needs some parts and will need to be rebuilt.
Any assistance would be appreciated.
Tom

Building an engine with an external mag and I have found some competing info on the forum concerning slingers. What do you think?

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I’m not sure if this has been posted here but this is a very impressive working 1:18 scale model of a T Model Ford.
This is on Facebook:

23 Roadster..Starter drive ate my mag coil. A recent purchase that ran and drove, but not on mag. Not a big issue, until I replaced some gaskets for leakage. When I removed the oil pan inspection cover, I noticed a pile of copper around the starter area. I assume starter was replaced without removing the starter drive first. So, I figured better...

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I am just reinstalling my steering column after repairing the loose rivet situation at the top. Guess I wasn't paying attention when I removed the column. There are 2 different length bolts that are used to attach the mounting flange on the column to the lower flange on the frame. I don't see any real reason for this. Did somebody just use a wrong...

Looks like a good driver Torpedo. Not all correct, but the starting price seems fair.

Does anyone have any tips or tricks for removing the rear hub from a wood spoke wheel with out damaging the spokes? We have centered the wheel on a piece of 6 1/2 ID tubing in a hydraulic press and applied 10 tons of pressure to the hub with no success. It acts like the front plate is frozen to the hub.
Any suggestions would be greatly...

Would love to have some of your best digital photos of Mr. Jay Klehfoth to include in the Vintage Ford . Gotta send him off in style. Please email them to me at VFeditorMTFCA@yahoo.com. Thanks in advance for your help!

Mike Bender puts the transmission together on the engine his videos. He installs the clutch basket by tapping it down on the shaft. I Have 2 good hubs and the larger bore has .0005 interference fit. I tried installing the hub on the shaft by itself on the bench and it took considerable pounding to put it on half way.
I am concerned that it will...

Does anyone know how to get the movement out of this case? My guess is that the pot metal knurled ring unscrews from the plated brass cylinder. I took this inner cylinder (and movement) out of the outer can by removing the three small screws at the rear of the clock, but I had no luck removing the pot metal ring from the inner cylinder. I’m afraid...

I have what I believe to be a coil box and coils that came off a 1903-1909 Model T. I would like to sell it to someone who collects these things. Contact me if you interested. By the way I have no idea of its value It’s a Splitdorf.
Al Spencer. karollee@sbcglobal.net

I snapped this last week quickly while sitting at a light. Working in butler Pennsylvania. I will try and get a better shot and maybe stop by if I have some time
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Well the speedster project is running again. Im going to try and post a link to a video on Facebook. This may be a wasted effort :)

post update:
OK, It appears to have loaded the video, but I have no sound when I click on the link, but my wife's cell phone does ??? If for some reason others do not have sound, All I can say is this thing does not...