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Would suppose black, can't tell for sure on the real 15th million, shown below, the upper outlet seems as cast, but was likely painted black, same with the lower inlet and the metal pipe, as those parts were added to the block last.

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The 15th million today, but the car has had repaint and the engine parts maybe...

You said it Don, the Model T is a magical thing. I have noticed for years that most folks you encounter while you are driving in a Model T have a smile on their face. There are always a few soreheads of course but most are charmed seeing a Model T putter down the road.

With the top down & a cowboy hat to shade the head life just seems more...

Yup, I plan on waiting until I have assembled the set to make the carrier. Have seen an enclosed Bear Brand running board box for the cans. When we can finally get back to Hershey it will be a hunt for me to find the other cans, or keep my eye out on eBay and the forum.

How can I make an inexpensive manifold oven?

Easy and efficient double wrap

Rest assured, Steve, I am not about to buy it!

I’m in love with the gal and her “bug”. Thanks for posting the pics, Tom!

Heat the sleeve, it will expand and while it is hot, turn it, then oil it when it cools some.

I too have been inspired by you Ed. After watching your interview with Jim, I couldn't resist posting you and your car in the 100 mph car post. Thank you for what you do and someday soon I hope to tour with you. I am the guy that purchased the brass Maxwell steering wheel spider at Bakersfield from you.

Thank you for your reply. Further searching confirmed thread size as 11/16 X 16 TPI.

Here are photos of the Frame and Engine Serial Numbers next to one another. It appears the 1 and 0 are of the same font of the small frame number stamp.

So this car could have been assembled post Model T production after May 1928, or more likely, it is really a 1926 Touring (without frame serial number) that was stamped with a replacement engine...

These last two give a little perspective to the Model T's we own.

The first is an 1898 De-Dion Bouton, which was started up and driven around today. Interesting to think this was built just two years after Henry Ford's Quadricyle, and a good ten years before the T:

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The second is a 1923 Mercer series 6. This car was built while...

The Chinese government is looking for defectors.

The first photo convinced me the area had been ground down to a thinner level.

Most blocks I have ever seen have the water inlet and serial number area ground to the same level.

I always suspected that was here the molten iron was poured in the mold and it had to be cut and polished after the block cooled.

Awesome Hank! Splendide!

Kewl photo.
I suppose Washington State could have used a TT instead so that things did not have to get tied down or tangled but figured that this method was quicker.

Awesome, always enjoy your posts, wish you were closer. Stay safe, Joe

On any thread about Front brakes on a there's always lots of comments about how the front axle will fold under or how the thin sheet metal pan will get bent.. There are a few of us that have T's with brakes on all four wheels. Ralph Ricks RIP aka RDR probably drove more miles with his T with front and rear brakes made from Metro hydraulics. He did...

Tom R, I had noticed the pith helmet, but missed the bare feet! I suspect India is very likely. The face of the man and maybe turban look Indian to me. Some very nice fellows from India work at a local gasoline station. I enjoy chatting with them. The turban if that is what it is doesn't show well, and certain areas in Africa are also known for...

Dan, here your filllister heads are called cheese head, which is descriptive of a maturing round of cheese. If we went to a descriptive name for your non-oval heads, they could be called cupcake heads, rounded on top, tapered underneath. :D

Allan from down under.

I remember reading in a forum post a few years back that the metal body tags were Baudette bodies... The FIshers (and Ford) built bodies were stamped into the wood to the right of the floorboards. There were instructions when ordering body parts the dealers had to include body nimbers because of the differences between manufacturers...

The one in AU is the same.
Will not hold stiff at 4 ft.
Droops at approx 1 ft extended.
Hope this helps.
Michael A

Between the horribly slow service of the US Postal Service and the possibility of fake money orders from all sources, selling/buying via check or money order has gone the way of the Dodo Bird.

PayPal is the best way to receive payment and FedEx Ground and/or UPS are the best way to send or receive anything of even minimal value. It is virtually...

Just got off the phone to Susie Ersland, yes the swap is on!

And she said I could post this info: .... that at this moment they are printing the 2021 windchill stickers.

If you were paid registered for 2020 that was cancelled, you will get your 2021 stickers in the mail by next week! Told her our weather today is sunny and 80 degrees, she...

How are you connecting the batteries? Series? Should have 36 volts. Are you sure the batteries are good? I use a DC welder when I do this. Dan

Yes, connected in series..I did check them individually and connected. Ended up with 42 volts at the end. I always have good batteries on hand..Thanks..I have a MIG welder, but that is it.

Rich
I would guess the two outer carriage bolts would be 1 1/2 or 2 inches long to get through the pillar where the center two are maybe 3/4 inch long or so.

I had fits replacing the window channels on my 27 Tudor several years ago using the vendor kits. The kits include a foam strip for the top. My car had the same channel as the sides on the top. The car was originally restored in the early 70's. The safety glass used was just too thick to slide easily in the supplied channel. So, did some Google...

While driving the route back then there was a section of the poured concrete roadway where someone had driven into the still wet concrete, then backed out. The tire tracks were still there. nice tire print. Looked to be 30x3 1/2 size.

All brass or brass plated.

Paul,

Thanks for the post. Let's build a snowmobile for the Mile High Club. I used to have modern snowmobiles. I'd love to show up in Grand Lake, CO with a Model T snowmobile. Yellowstone would also be a blast in the Winter.

I'll check the mag post this weekend. I'm sure gas isn't the problem since I only run ethanol-free gas and drain it after a month or so and the popping and hot running came on fresh out of the pump ethanol-free gas. As soon as my carb gasket set comes in, I'll get the carb back together and give it a shot. I'm pretty confident the way-retarded...

They are rare, his last two!

One other caution: Don't keep a coil buzzing for very long without a cooling-off time. Just to pick a number, I'd say 5 seconds ON, then 15 seconds or more OFF.

Right or wrong I got it done 😁
1/8 inch pop rivets with washers on the backside

I had no idea that those battery boxes or lids existed until now. Mine didn't come with one for a 1922 body. I just put a piece of plywood down cut to fit according to a plan someone on the forum gave me and dropped the battery in.

Here is the battery box and lid in my 23 runabout. One before the body was installed and also with the body...

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I just ran the No. 9 brass wood screws into the dash to hold the horn. It was hard going in dry, I had forgotten the old wisdom. Oh well, next time!

Thanks all for the tips. Like Stan’s tip on keeping it the carrier so it stays cool.
Tom

I may have too many pets peeves , my wifey says. This is at the top of my list. I have been on the receiving end of this type of hack repair on two vehicles I’ve purchased over the years. Both extremely costly to me, and both times were known by the seller but neglected to be mentioned. Epoxy IS NOT a miracle substance, but merely a bandaid. Now I...

Well, that didn't take long ! Thanks, sleuths ! 👍

Hey, if he wants to give me 75+ large, maybe more, we can talk. :D

Might be a good time to mention what to do with the strap when the top is up. Some old time Model T owners showed me how to wrap it so it doesn't flop in the wind. I added a hair scrunchy to help hold it in place. You stuff the end of the strap thru the opposite end of the buckle and wrap it tightly.

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Here is adv. for that style stop lamp for the '24-'27 tail lamp/license bracket assembly.

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Thanks for all the comments. Yesterday wasn’t the coldest I’ve driven this car, but it’s getting down there.

David: my touring is kept in an unheated stall sharing a wall with the workshop. Air temperature in there was -7* C yesterday and while it started OK there was some reluctance.

Paul: yes, cardboard. It would be fun to find a ratty...

Congrats to whomever bought this T with one bid unanswered.

Allan that's a great idea! Can you post a picture or two of how it looks in the end?

Sorry I overlooked this post and forgot to thank Ron for his reply.

Rocky Mountain uses 3/16 . If you have the pulley, that should give you a pretty good indication.

The lens exchange is very simple if you have an original lamp I opened the flap of the lens on the inside about half way around, it is not soldered this makes it loose and easy to remove. Went back in the same way ,use smooth pliers to flatten the lip and it was again solid with no movement of the lens.

Thanks for all the inputs and advice. I should get it done today.

Thank you Chris, you are appreciated.

Car #2 looks the best. Edison took pictures of their cars when they were newly acquired or shortly after it appears. BF64C662-67C5-4665-B330-80F76BF5F808.jpeg

If the caps are drilled for dippers, then I would say yes to the grooves. If not, the oil will run in from the top and sides of the rod. I have dippers in all of mine, and have not tried running rods without them. I think, perhaps, the babbit would last longer without the grooves, however, with the dippers, you wouldn't get as much oil in. So I...

It would be nice if we could get Speedway Motors in Nebraska to order a batch with the correct inlets and outlets. They sell a lot of t bucket parts and have a Speedster reunion at the museum every other year. I also need to recommend you all go visit the museum. It is huge and awesome.

Wonder how many would be a minimum order and how many of us...

PRICELESS !!!

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Rich,
This is great news. Early May works well for me. And, I like the way you're packaging the event. See you there.
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Sorry that happened, however, you were fortunate it happened so close to home. It would have been a real problem if it had happened on a long tour. Hopefully you can get it back to running order soon and into it's new home.
Norm

Great Points everyone, Thanks for all your help! it looks like I need to put more thought into it before I start.

My carburetor connection was leaking too so I used the fuel proof grease on those connections. Dry carburetor now!

Rachel 👋

These two vehicles sold out of Iowa.

Same buyer.

The truck was for sale for a long time
and was discounted from the original
asking price.

I transported them both in one load to
the Bend, Oregon area a few months ago
for a repeat customer.

As Brett stated above - the market is
limited - if you are in Washington
state you best bet...

I got mine today.

Hi All

Here is some additional information on the differences between hinges.

I believe it goes something like, left '15 to sometime in '16. Middle sometime in '16 to '17. And on the right, '18 to '19 Canada, later in the US.

If you look close, the one on the left has a raised ridge between the indents and the middle one doesn't.

Drive Safe...

And it was a Centerdoor if I remember correctly !

My 22 came with a low head and a 3-1 rear axle when I got it. It goes faster on level and downhill, however, need to use Ruckstell more often on hills or even starting out on a slight hill. The car has a low radiator and still doesn't overheat.
Norm

Not that I know of BUT Mike at Classtique will install your upholstery on your springs - or at least he did for a friend of mine.

Takes guts to open J.C.Flood Plumbing Co. That whecker is a peach.

Rich
As you increase HP you increase bearing load!
Adjusting T bearings is a fact of life with a splash engine. Lack of full flow filtration contributes. Consider that in the ‘30’s the V8 didn’t have shims. Eventually oil filters were added.
So much more HP from a stock oiled T I would expect to do more bottom end “maintenance”!

In my opinion the wood strips do not add that much rigidity to the seat backs. When I rebuilt my '17 Touring I used a combination of aluminum channel and reinforcing panels to give the seat backs more strength. It is indeed a problem that needs to be addressed. In my front seat back there were cracks extending from some of the screw holes on the...

Gonna buy me a Model T Ford. Absolutely the best Model T song I've heard. On Youtube go to T Model T Movie 2017. It's a video about a tour in Australia. Well worth watching. The song starts at minute 15. Bob

Kind of reminiscent of the Delco starter-generator used on teens & 20's Buicks, at least in purpose. Dodges too I guess. Very clever!!

Sorry about that I am not familiar with right hand drive cars.
Norm

Rich, very nice. We are hoping to go to Moab area soon. So much to see and do in the area. Maybe we will take the T.

Think this is other side of that Kingston, at GA swap meet today.

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And a barn fresh ‘23 , owner asking $4000, complete less top and rims/tires.

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Mason, I think your the same person that I took a ride with you and your father down state to look at a Model T. You never returned my original 192? copy of Model T accessories catalog I loaned you. Can you please put it into a mailer and send it back. Thank you.

Expand the photo and note remnants of heavy canvas tacked to the upper wood rail, those pieces were looped around the spring frame.

Adjust the loop length to hang spring in position, do the seat base first so the backrest spring and backrest upholstery clears the seat so it can be removed.

TO D Stout,

Belated as best but THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE !!!!!!!!! Your generation of hero's were disrespected and horribly treated upon their return. We all owe them a huge salute. These young men met the call of their country and did it with honor and sacrifice. The next time you see a veteran say thank for your service .
That is the best...

If I was rebuilding an older engine it would have the 1/4 field coil with a ring geared flywheel in it, no one will know and some day we are all going to get old and hand cranking an old car or hitting a starter switch is the choice you may take some day of driving which car, I have seen it happen many times and the non starter car will set!

Put blocks on the pedals, and she'll be good to go!!! (Dont ask how I know... --grins--)

Just want to say a big THANKS to Gene Carrothers,Tony Bowker,and Les Schubert for all there help, Gene and I talked well over an hour earlier today and sent detailed pictures of Ralph Ricks excellent job and I'll probably end up with some spare parts.
Now I can hopefully get this thing together before the heat and humidity hits !

Thanks. That's cool.
John

Thanks Frank. I didn't know there were multiple types.

Is there an easy method to remove the switch lever? If I could remove that and clean the bottom contact and the switch lever itself, that would solve my issue and I could move on with the project.

I don't know of anyway to remove the switch lever other than to take the main contact apart...

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OK, Lee is awake now. He told me to pass on that his 09 was Number 452 and it had the original red lining inside the top.

And, he wanted me to say hello to you Pete and that he hopes to see you on the Malibu Renegade Wildcat T Tour March 12-16th. And, share stories about your father and your uncle. Original Smith has all those tour details. I...

My dad was a refinery still man for forty years, for Shell, Pathfinder, and Union Oil. They called the shifts days , 4 to 12 , and graveyards . His schedule was days for two weeks, 4 to 12 for two weeks, and graveyards for two weeks, in constant rotation. It was true shift work, and he did not enjoy it. He would have received more from Social...

You're doing the reverse of what the factory did (installing the engine in a chassis without a body), and that makes it pretty simple. Removing/Installing an engine in a Model T with a mounted body is a hassle.

As was mentioned above, drain the oil or it will run out the back of the transmission when you tilt the engine and undo the radius rods...