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There has been alot of great information given. Thanks for taking the time to post!

I ran an OF on my 23 runabout for a year and the only problem I had was the counterweighted needle that rides on the top of the brass float would get stuck on occasion and caused the fuel to dump on occasion. The top of the brass float had some dings in it. Couldn’t find a better float and I installed a U&J ... been that way ever since.

Didn’t no that about the magnet bolts and whether to wire them or not. I had to think twice about it after seeing this post. The last T I restored was my 21 Touring. I found a correct engine for that year at Chickasha and rebuilt it. It had the magneto bolt wires on and I rewired them after the transmission rebuild.
I have transmissions with...

Thank you, Keith, I appreciate the reply! I kinda thought the shield had to attach to the floorboard as there is no where else it could possibly go, since the four screw holes are at the bottom. Makes sense now that I see what it's supposed to look like!

In actuality there’s 2 styles of this bracket in the last 2 years of T production. The rarest only fits the 4 door and chassis. The other style fits all the other body styles of 26-27. Just a tidbit I’ve learned from this Forum

If the engine is hard to turn over in neutral, I would suspect a problem with the clutch. If you put the parking lever in the neutral position, and push the car it should roll with some effort but the engine not turn. Likewise when you turn the crank, the engine should turn but the car would not roll.

The other possible and more likely cause...

Tim,
I'm a high school principal.
My students are always checking my spelling.
lol

What may discharge your magnets is if DC current from the battery is allowed to flow into the field coil. Whether the engine is running or not. This can be caused by a wiring fault, improperly connected wiring, poorly insulated wire harness ends touching each other on the ignition switch, or something as simple as removing the ignition switch back...

LOL .... Steve, we used a version of that joke in our medicine show years ago. We did a rain making routine and show a ground up pill in the air to salt the sky. I used a civil war era 58 cal Springfield rifle and as I showed it to the audience I said it was the very same weapon used by John Wilkes Booth when he murdered President Lincoln ... but...

Good write up Ron. I always enjoy your comments.

Back in the late 1970's I bought 2 Model T's from a man down south, one was accenterdoor that I had to install the transmission cover on it ( what a job ) no room in them, it was sold to a movie company and the man said it would be in a Hallmark movie named Sarah
I looked for years and never fount the movie so I figured out it was never made, last...

Saturday morning? I think I can make that Jim. Looking foreard to it.

Joe Bell in Ohio

Interesting read.

Here is a 'tidied up' version:

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We will have to run over and see it Saturday!

GOOD ONE Scott! LOL!

I believe there is a hidden retaining set screw, look for some gasket sealer hiding it. It slides out thru the front. Hope this Helps.

Hank

If you look at a removable band you will see that the end of the band is clipped into the ear which in turn makes it the same as a riveted ear.

I'm sure the metal stem tubes from Blockley are excellent. But I have been buying Hartford tubes, cutting off the rubber stems, and installing my own metal stems. So far they have presented no problems. I intend for my next tyres to be Blockleys, but I will keep the Hartford tubes in them.

Thanks Hank. PM me with the details. Cost, shipping, etc.

That spare tire has a bad hernia! Needs a very large boot inside and a roll of duct tape on the outside for a truss. Then the tire will be good as new. Drive slowly however as it might be out of balance after the surgery. :lol:
Norm

RustyFords - I did the same, and I would do it again. I also agree with John Warren. When I changed the pulley, I found a bad crack in the fan. Lang's had a new fan that is a perfect repro of the original.

Randall: Let us know when you get paid! If it were me I'd drop them.

Bill: Re-read Allan's post, tapered rollers require cone shape races to roll true. Cylindrical rollers against flat races have to 'skid' as others have noted. It's bronze for me. Drive careful everyone. jb

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Good innocent fun!

Thanks RV, that is just what I was looking for. I should have clarified that my car is a September 1916 build with oval sockets.
I'll have to throw a tape measure on the existing loops and see how close they come. I'm using bows that Jonathan made and they are top quality.

I look forward to installing the straps you sold me and finally getting...

Ron it seams to tighten up and the engine slowdown until it dies Have you confirmed the engine is 'tight'? Immediately after it stalls can you still turn it over with the crank? IMHO, this sounds like fuel starvation, whatever the cause, good luck on the repair, hope it's simple. jb

I think Steve is correct; they were the first style used with the new wider-pole double oval stack field coil in September of '14. The typical '14 used the fixed, small round pole double stacked style field coil. The magnets used with it had very long, arc-shaped clamps to try to overcome the notorious dead spots so common with that style field...

Thanks Joshua and George.

I'm formulating a plan based on what yall have shown and described. This is all going to be covered up, so I'm thinking a hybrid approach might be best.

Thanks Guys! I hope the Museum is getting some traffic through there. There is so much to see.
Rich

The heads are 3/8 and shaft is 1/2 . I think I found mine at a local Tandy Leather store. Im not sure what they are called, but the double ended rivits are set with just a hammer and backing block. It is a two person job.

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Finally pictures uploaded.
Here is my caps slightly different to the ones Kevin provided. Maybe mine have been remade.
Michael A

I think of Wile E. Coyote every time I see an “X” on the floor in a store or bank. I can’t help looking up for the anvil!

Erik, don’t be prejudiced against ACME. My ACME is the best bicycle I’ve ever had! (Way better than the 1895 Rudge!)
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Yes, you can graft a piece too!

Hank

It's great that there are T guys close together who like to actually drive their cars. There are probably at least a dozen Model T's in my county, and mine are the only ones I ever see being driven.

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Cast iron pistons, two piece valves and insulation off of the field coils. I would have replaced the field coil when I was in there this Spring except the mag is working so good. The Coupe makes me appreciate how good my other Ts run. It's also an experiment in what we can get away with. :D

Just my opinion... Starting out on a drive it seems like you have no problem with your bands applying as you adjusted... As the engine warms up, metal will expand a bit possibly causing the effect of loosening up your band contact on the drum...????

Bingo the U-joint did not fit on the end of the longer shaft from an unknown source at all. It fit perfectly on the shorter one from a known source.

Ignacio, The shorter trusted one looks more correct. Check your U joint on the shafts to see if the U joint pin hole matches up. I think the longer shaft will stick out into the joint area of the...

Dave and Keith are right on target with their suggestion of short 200 to 400 mile trips to work the bugs out. Fortunately you live in an area with lots of secondary and tertiary roads. Expeditions of less than coast-to-coast proportions are good too. Even if I'm still driving a T at 100, there are more of those than I'm likely to get around to. I...

Find a housing that was made for the early spool. I've been lucky to have been able to find them.

Sorry been busy with young men in the shop!

The dams should be to a height on each side of the rod throw per cylinder to the bottom of crankshaft rod surface area plus 3/16 . Ensure they continue at the proper radius but not to obstruct the return flow pattern in the horseshoes. You can make them removable from the inspection plate,( ie, attaches...

I also have a wooden body depot hack. Here's an idea that worked out pretty well for me:

Having retired after 34 years in law enforcement, I worked all but the last few years in plain clothes. For that reason, I still had, and used, what they used to call a fanny pack type of black leather holster which looked like any other fanny pack (always...

This morning Susan & Mark hosted members of the Albuquerque MTFCA Chapter for a visit
with The Friendship Ford.

I was doing really good with my diet ... 👍

Until this morning that is ...., 🙄

Homemade Coffee Cake and preserves
Proved to be my downfall .... ❤️

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FJ

I built a T engine with a really high performance A cam and the T springs float at about 4300 rpm!! So a useful built in rev limiter on a flathead T engine

It turns out that I am wrong. there is a hole in the correct place. I think that there are two holes for some reason. All is well. J.R.

Ole Doc's car has been done for 10 years now and they still look like where just done, He does not store it in the driest places either, so that sort of made a believer to me, they said for how much gold is used in plating it was not much more money, so I was told?

Hi Kim, email sent! Thanks!

From Lang's:
The answer our technical staff have produced is as follows.

The roller is fixed and slides in the window channel.

Just like a house being tented to fumigate for termites, you can get a roll of visqueen (sheet plastic) and tent your car with it, being sure to seal it around the base then pump in a powerful insecticide. ...or call a fumigator to pump in same type of gas they use for killing termites. That stuff will kill everything under the tent. If your...

If purchase a new tag they always come with steel drive screws and they look funny. Chaffin’s has the brass ones you can purchase separately.
I’ve only tried to save the tag if it says Model F because the reproduce the other 2 styles. The straight through tags for the ones that have them are slightly different so you might save those.
Once I pry...

Your paper exhaust manifold gasket is leaking. Use the correct copper ring & gland style.

Yep.

Pulled them off and there was a big tear on two of the ports. :evil:

Went back to the old ones and all is well.

Thanks!

Great! Happy to help!

Harold, thanks. Editor Natalie chose those pics, published courtesy of The Henry Ford. I’ve seen the racer up close, and it is a piece of art! Light, efficiently built, and big block Chebby sized motor. It beat the fastest racer in the world head to head. Wish it were on display at THF.

If at all possible don’t throw them away. What’s welded on can be taken off easy enough and they can be cleaned up OK. Lots of old parts have been saved and cleaned up. I try to save what can repaired and used again. If the parts are to rusted up and it’s just a part of something they are to far gone.

I have four that I got from Model T Haven, but I haven't checked them to see if they are any good.

Just like when helping folks troubleshoot problems with their car over the internet, it really helps to know what we're working with, here.

It sounds like you are using a computer to view the forum. Is it a Windows computer? If so, are you using Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, Edge, or some other browser to view the forum?

I use Firefox, and...

Is this correctly setup? If not, can someone please post a pic of this same area so I can ensure I have the correct support for the radiator when it comes time to mount it?

I look forward to when Model T events start back up so I can attend to see other Ts in person and learn that way.

Thank you for your time,
Darin

Don't pop it into high. I assume when you say that, you're essentially letting the pedal snap back. That's never good! You don't need to feather it, but let it come back in a moderately rapid, but controlled manner, with your foot regulating the rate at which you engage high. The important thing is to get good at matching the engine speed to the...

That's great Jeff. Beautiful car. Enjoy.

Dubuque IA is about 1hr from me. I did find a better picture of the truck on the Internet, apparently the one you found is a copy of another. Did internet search and found that there was Molo Redi Mix co then Molo Co is still in business but is a petroleum products distributor (. Molo Redi-Mix was purchased by Bard Material ((563) 582-1208) in...

Larry, your switch looks great as does the rest of the box.
Great job!

I know yours is a preservation car. They're often harder to fix than one you could simply repair and repaint.

Yeah, Brett.... there’s my friend Paul Mikeska in Denver. If he doesn’t have one, he’ll know of one you might borrow. You can search his contact info on this Forum or just start a thread titled ‘Hey Paul Mikeska !!’

Rich, how is the early TT coming along? Dave

I use a dab of silicone sealant on the hose connections. It fills any imperfections and will let the hoses pop right off as they don't stick to it. Works for me. :) Dave

If springs don't seat in the crossmember correctly, I wouldn't grind the springs to fit. That's just asking for a broken spring later on down the road. Find out what the issue is with the croomember, and fix that! JMHO Dave

Have found out that it’s the Michigan building opened in 1926.
The address will sound familiar being 220 Bagley Avenue. Henry & Clara’s Home
and where the Quadricycle and Kitchen Bench Engine were built.
It really is the home of the Ford Motor Car!
Cheers Alan in Western Australia

Thanks and glad to hear that Richard! When I looked at the original pictures of the damage I thought maybe just maybe the hit was outside the frame enough that it might have been okay. I have seen quite a few decent looking model Ts found to have bad frames over the years. If it all lines up okay, measures okay, then runs and drives like it...

After posting a few want adds and buying some not so good rims, I am having 5 new ones made by Stephen Hood in New Zealand. They should be ready in about 1 more week.

Just fyi. I've been running Champion X plugs in my B Rajo for 52 years. On the road and on the race track. FU 4 magneto. Always set them at 0.25 and I've been totally satisfied with the performance.

Ed aka #4

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i have been using the black ring as per the previous post for years and not had a bit of trouble with my Holley G. I was unaware of the screws loosening and haven't had that problem yet. However, that makes me think to buy new brass screws from the bolt depot and replace the original screws.

Hello Mark:
Good point...Apologies, I did not lay out my entire rebuild process here, but interior coating of the housing center sections is part and parcel to this. The parts were rushed together to get the car on the road, especially the qualification of this rear end. I use a standard gas tank sealer product which I believe is a urethane base....

I believe some of the earlier cars used a rivet.

Darin,

It's very kind of you to offer your help, thank you - very much.

I've responded to your email (where's the thumbs up emoticon! 8-)

Cheers, Luke.

The planning group has carefully considered our options and conflicts and decided the 2021 Michigan Jamboree will be held August 25th thru 28th in Bad Axe, Michigan. Mark your calendars!

I'll post again when I learn when registrations and motel and camping reservations will be accepted.

I thought the four valve Rajo Model A was designed specifically to fit a standard firewall. The Four valve A will give you a much power as you need, they are plenty fast from my experience. JMHO

So after another full long day .... 💪

It was time to say Goodbye 👋

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The 1904 Ford Model B 51-52 was loaded .... 🧐

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Thank You Kim 🙏

FJ

Well said Hank!!!! Dallas, you need to start hunting ducks and geese back here. It's much warmer then than it is during coyote season. :lol: I still have a lot of stuff that I just know you need. ;) ;) Dave

Mine rears back like that too but that's the way they are. It makes more sense on a Touring which curves back a bunch while yours angles forward.

Thanks so much Dan. Perfect. Got it test mounted today but it doesn't look right to me. What do you think?

This internal cable was used on Warner speedometers prior to Stewart and Warner merging. I hope this helps, Russ Furstnow

Susanne - I have several original gas gauges in cars and I've replace the original cork floats with the Model A gas gauge modern material float - they work perfect BUT I only run clear gas in my T's !

And to rank that top pick, I'd say be a tie with the ECCT system of tuning ignition coils. Those that have used either of these items have been vocally pleased with the results.....

Seeing all the differences in how far the screws are, you really need to start with a good base line and go from there. Sure it may take a few tries to get a good clutch, but you will end up with an evenly adjust set of fingers and even pressure on the clutch ring. Because of the single slot, they will not be exactly 13/16 to start but close.

Found the crack. Welded and dressed a bit. Tightly installed new rivets. Good as new now.

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Yes! Three episodes are available! I'll watch three in a few minutes.
A little silly but simply good natured!
Thanks Robert. :)

Thanks for all the info everyone.