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After taking apart the engine in my 27, I noticed the valve springs didn't all look the same. I lined them up, by length, but put the longest next to the shortest.

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There's about half an inch difference, the longest is about three inches, shortest about two and a half.

Just for fun, I measured the installed height, looks...

I'll put a copy of this on the OT page, but that doesn't seem to be read as much.... I need to find people interested in, or involved with, Buick and Star vehicles. These are probably from the 30's. I'm in the southern CA area. If you know someone involved with these cars please ask them to contact me.

Visiting Baker City, OR and this photo was on the wall in a store.
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I wanted to introduce myself being new to the forum although a long-time reader. I have a 1927 coupe I'm almost finished restoring and will be looking for a 26/27 roadster restoration project in the future. Glad to be on the forum.

One of the services that has been impacted by the coronavirus situation is international mail delivery.

For our members outside of the U.S., it's possible that you have not yet received the March-April issue of the Vintage Ford. If you think it's possible your membership has lapsed, please send an email to: admin@mtfca.com and we will check your...

Does any one have any experience with reproduction 21 split rims? How well are they made? Are there more than one manufacture? Or, are all of the venders selling the same rim? How do they compare to original rims in in form and design?

I am interested in acquiring a High Compression head and the Z head by Steven Zajicek has been recommended. I'd like to hear from folks that have personal experience using one before I purchase. Have also heard the Prus head is an alternate choice, but again would like to hear from people that have used either head. Like to know the good, the bad...

I put this in a closet in the garage when we moved into this house 30 years ago and forgot about it. What kind of chemical mixture did it use?

How do I find info on window shade repairs? (Like for the rear window shade assembly on 1927 Coupes?) When I try and search, the one and only hit I get is on color shading in art paintings of the Model T.
Is there a section of forums reserved for repair topics or something similar?
When I try and search the earlier forums, all I get is a computer...

Can anyone please tell me how the tire attaches to the bolts in the running board or to the one on the cab side
I haven’t been able to see how others are done
Any ideas appreciated
Thanks
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I'm ready to put the panels on my doors and interior and have a question. I have the Classtique kit and the kick panels forward of the right front door and on the foward part of the driver's side panel have a sewn edging on them unlike the door panels. I know I'm supposed to finish the edges of the doors with a simple welt and painted round headed...

Secondary to door I’d is this cowl section someone tried to make into a truck. I believe a 27: frame numbers are 27, and if cowl is original to frame, I’m not sure. The cowl door does have a stop that holds it open half-way open. This would make it a Fordor, correct?
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Since finishing the restoration of our 15 runabout in April, I've been driving it and our 21 touring enough to start noticing differences in how they both ride. Obviously the touring has a heavier body, so I expected the lighter runabout to have a stiffer ride. You can definitely feel bumps more with the runabout, but the touring also has Hassler...

Found in a box of wheel lugs. What's it for? Has some numbers (lower photo on left side) 218725
Thanks Frank

Is American Vintage Rims still in operation? I tried calling the number and sent an email over a week ago. Does anyone know?

This hubcap has me puzzled. Pre-T probably. First 1500 maybe. Can anyone help me identify this? 32A6553D-F121-412B-91AD-B3DA34CBAEBD.jpeg DD1F88F8-C826-4B1C-9A5E-9019A6811F1E.jpeg BE4D3423-AC5D-4D33-9682-D92DFE2CC9F4.jpeg 656AD76A-D6F3-4909-8BF8-A86D66DB23AC.jpeg

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I took these lights off my car to return it to original. They’re marked Gray & Davis made in Boston. The forks measure 7.5” center to center and are double bulb. I also have the high/ low beam switch. Anyone know anything about them? I’ve not found any similar.

Thanks

Jeff

Just read the thread about problems with old gas. I'm concerned about that, and I have a question:

If I drain the old gas out of my T's tank, into, say, a 5-gallon gas can, what do you suggest I do with it?

Let's assume it is old enough, and has gone bad enough, that it won't work in my modern car, either. So dumping it into the new car isn't a...

I was prepping my 1979 Ford 4 X 4 for shipping to the UK as our youngest is going to use it on their farm, hauling animals to shows, etc. This truck has been restored, parked in the barn, started on occasions, etc. After starting it up getting ready to move it, all hell breaks loose with antifreeze hitting the windshield. Antifreeze just going...

I have an early 15 Roadster with gas lights, but it's missing all the piping between the lights and the carbide generator. Can anyone tell me how the gas line is routed from the generator to the head lights? All I have is new red rubber tubing and the short gas pipe section mounted across the bottom of the radiator, like on the 14 Ts? Where is the...

How tight should the screws be tightened?
Thanks for a quick information to everyone.

Anton

Found on he 'net. One photo in Flinder's Lane Melbourne. The car on the left has a Red Cross windscreen label, and further back up the street are similar T's that could be part of a small fleet owned by the Red Cross. I believe they had offices nearby.

Dandenong was a very outer suburb- about 20 miles from the center of the City. It is now...

I am looking for a carburetor to be used on my fronty head. I have tried all kinds but still have not found one that is right

Hello! This is my first post on this forum. Last year, we purchased a property that came with a Model T Tudor Sedan. The last registration sticker is from 1963, and it has clearly been parked for a long time but is in really solid condition. The engine is still free and has compression. According to the registration we found, it is a 1926. I was...

Today five of us from our local club got together Vagabond style for a little picnic, social distance of course, to just enjoy camaraderie and plan this Sundays picnic and tour. The Pres was the chef! We will start here again at noon and tour the afternoon from there. Great weather forecast so should be a great day. Today I used the Fordor, Sunday...

So the story goes in 1927 15 million Model Ts were produced. and production stopped. There were still Model Ts in service. How many? Well, for 1929 there was a an article stating that 8,000,000 were still running. Any disagreements?
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This is what I think of when someone says they have a barn find. There are two Model T's in building. It was a fun day last summer digging out both cars. It was the most mouse, bird and pack rat poop I have seen in years. Ton of parts, I number of which I still need to pick up. The car was disassembled in 1960 or 61. Most of the parts are there....

My son was driving from Houston to Colorado yesterday and spotted this nifty pair in Amarillo.

I have all my kids trained to report any/all Model A or T sightings to me without delay ;)

The A sort of has that Shay look to it.
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I know that maybe you think this should be in the Off Topic section but folks, here is the man that corrupted me real good, My Dear ole Dad!

A Golden Eagle is one whom has been retired from the United States Military for 50 years and still living (1 June 1970). There are all three in my house, Dad 50-Golden, My Bride (Patty) 25-Silver, Myself...

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Feel free to contact us if you have questions. Look forward to seeing folks soon!

Susan, Noah, Justin, Diana and Stella
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I was surprised to find this message under the gasket.

8 36. PATE AUTO SERVICE WATSEKA ILL.

John

Hi,

Thanks to the previous replies to a separate post about my loud puffing exhaust, I've tried to short out the spark plugs one by one (still waiting to get the compression tester). I've taken a short video showing what happens and hope someone can help me diagnose what the problem is at this point and what next steps I should take even before...

How is the best way to set the float valve on a Holley 4550? It runs well, just leaks. Suggestions are appreciated. Thank you!

It was the final few days of my 7th grade year. Everyone was studying, I being one of the few to study my hardest in the library. Then from out of the blue, my best (and only) friend comes up from behind me with one of his characteristic squeals and a slap on my back. He has what he likes to call a slow brain which gives him a speech impediment...

Hoping someone has a overhead head gasket (that would fit an 8 valve head such as a Fronty or Rajo). I am hoping you can measure the bore size and thickness for me. It really would help if you have a used gasket as it's already squished, but I've got a good idea of what the difference would be if you only have a new one.

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I image this is no news to many of you more experienced gear heads, but I found this interesting. My dad had pulled two hubs off 800 series ~1954 tractor yeas ago and when I was discussing the price of Model T wire wheel hubs he pulled these out.
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I ended up getting model T hubs and you can see the offset...

hey everyone!

i have a 24 touring i bought back in January, that came with side curtains. the rear curtains are fitted on and are nice and tight, but the 2 front ones don't have any way to connect and i don't know how to fasten them on. i have the connectors, and everything, but i'm only 13 and don't have any experience on things like that. here...

Are the 2 axle differential housings interchangeable or are they specific to each side

Anyone have some good recommendations about how to get to forum posts (hopefully with pics) regarding putting in the fixed windows on a closed car? (Specifically a 1927 Coupe) I have found PILES of stuff on putting in the door glass, so no problem there. But when I search for the rear window or side window fixed glass installation, I'm not getting...

Last Thursday Trent Boggess presented his research into the first Model T, or T prototype, including the two lever, three pedal car. That’s right, two lever, three pedal. Trent has graciously allowed us to post his presentation. While the entire recording lasts two hours, the first hour consists primarily of Trent’s presentation about the first...

The T that I bought came to me with a 8 volt battery. The car sat for approximately 10 years. During the start up to getting it back to a safe drivable T again. I want to convert it back to a 6v system. I have a John Regan 8 volt voltage regulator # 5055R-8V It does have a letter A on the bottom. In the instructions states it can be used for 6 or...

Livingston County Daily Press and Argus, Howell, Michigan. Armstrong and Barron, Agents were dealers in International Harvester farming equipment.

Announcing the Model T Ford was available for sale a week earlier, March/April 1908.

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Looking thru some old timers I noticed the Anderson Timer has a smaller diameter circle for the contacts. What does the roller assembly look like that attached to the cam compared to other roller assemblies?

Gentlemen,

Good news is the 13T actually ran today for the first time in over 10 years. Engine ran for about five seconds before sputtering out but that was great progress for the last few days of work. To hear the coils buzzing and hear the familiar sounds of the T’s engine, albeit brief, was like being transported back in time as a young in’...

Can a T block be safely bored to .080 over or should it be sonic tested to make sure it has enough meat left to ensure it won't present a problem later on. The block presently has an A crank with 292 Y Block .060 pistons. I searched the internet and found that .080 oversize pistons are hard to find. Any suggestions on pistons to use.

Just curious. Question says it all.

My May job was rejuvenating the gas tank and TT was out of commission for a few weeks. Got it back together and my wife suggested a drive which am always happy to oblige. We had been working hard at cleaning up our grove. TT started off normal then after a few hundred yards the engine stopped like it was turned off. It started again but was...

Hi all ;
I have seen in Vintage Ford # 2 page 41 , an article in # 14 .
About Sperry's Felloe oilers .
Mike Vaughn told me it is for condition wood felloe's and spoke tenons to avoid shrinkage .
Do one of you have experience with that ??

Thanks for your reaction .

Toon

So, I'm tardy getting my 1922 Touring started after the winter. Got it started today, but the exhaust is puffing very loudly - almost too loud for me to hear how well (or not) the engine is running.

I'm a novice here.... Is this common after sitting idle for some months? How might I diagnose the problem? I let it run and accelerated it for a...

Natalie Weaver, editor and photographer for the Model T Times, helped me put the following article together, and it ran in last months T Times issue. This article is part one of two covering Henry Ford’s last, and arguably best pre world one racing efforts.

In a nutshell, Henry Ford approached his lead designer (and key Model T developer) Joe...

Hello. I recently replaced my Transmission bands and I am not happy with the oil leaks now. I own two model ts and I am very aware about them marking their spot. My question is--Should I use the side gaskets with ultra black gasket maker or just the ultra black alone? I plan on using the front felt seal and the rear round gasket. my main leaks...

tore into the engine in my '23 center door yesterday and today, and was disappointed to find the condition of the seats, valves and guides.

The valves are already second oversize , which is advertised as .342 . In measuring the non-wearing areas above and below the guide contact area, my valves were .3400 to .3404 .

the guides measured .3437 to...

I currently have a chrome clamp on mirror for my 23 roadster, but it constantly scratches up the windshield post. I thought about getting one that screwed to the post but I'm afraid if it's bumped, it'll damage the post. I guess I could live with the clamp mirror but I can't stomach the chrome and they don't seem to make a black one. Is there a...

Seeking some input on the wire metal clips that you attach to the door and side panels to secure to body. Is it recommended to lubricate them for installation into the body metal? The clips came with the interior kit and I have not had much luck on insertion in to the body metal. I have achieved a nice blood blister under my thumb nail though. I'm...

Hard to imagine that Robert Weighton was alive when the first Model Ts were hitting the streets...

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Hi friends! My father and I are getting ready to replace the gas tank on my 1922 Center Door. I have a decent amount of experience working with modern automobiles, and have learned the hard way enough times that it's better to just follow the directions in the repair manual to a T than to freelance. That said, I've found the amount of technical...

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So the audit indicates that by Sep 31, 1908, lists three Model T's were sold.

In July 1908, a new timer for a Model T as well as N and R was available too.

from Detroit Free Press page 21 (23 July 1908)

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Found online. Any theories or explanations?

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Just checking if anyone has purchased a 1913/1914 Mr Roadsrer windshield that Speedway Motors sells? Their add says it's an exact reproduction, is it really? The windshield frame with the channel isn't that much more than just the channel.... especially if the channel already has the bends in it. It's supposed to be made in the U.S.

After watching the video of Trent Bogess that Rob was kind enough to share and reading Carl Pate's book this week I was thinking of a display I would love to see. The development of the Ford engine up to the Model T. If we could see a Model A 8hp, Model A 10hp, Model C, etc engines and the improvements Henry made to finally come up with the Model...

I got a set of 28-29 original wire wheels and i got new hub caps , and i cannot seem to be able to put them on ,i have vent the clips on the edge but no go, any sugestion ???

thank you Lorenzo

New today on The History Guy channel on Youtube:

The other day I was disassembling a 11 7 19 Model T motor when I recognized the block/crankcase bolts were cotter pinned but the trans cover/crankcase bolts/nuts were fastened with lock washers. This made sense I thought because the engineers determined the hogsheads had to be removed on occasion to change bands. This begs the question: were the...

I recently picked up a couple of Model TTs, which I knew nothing about other than they were cool. Needless to say, I started reading the forums and eventually got hooked up with a local board member who had a couple of Model Ts and a TT. I'm not going to name him, but he knows who he is and he can come forward if he wants. Anyhow, he's been a huge...

It has been a few years since I was on the forum, a move to Alaska and having a son at the age of 5o kind of put me on the side track. Nice to be back working on my 1926 skiff speedster.

I have a chance to but a Rajo model B head (figure 2). My brother found it laying in someone's yard of all things and the guy (who hates Fords) gave it to him....

I would like some opinions on what make of 30 X 3 1/2 black wall tires to buy for my 1921 T coupe. I will probably need 1 or 2 tires to replace the ones that have cracks in the side walls. Thanks Scott

I purchased a complete wood kit for my 1914 touring, and I don't really know where to start. Are there any good references, books or web sites, that might illustrate the procedure for completely re-wooding a body?

I'm trying to get a hold of one of the officers of the send text Model T Club in Austin I would appreciate it if any of their members would notify their officers to give me a call please my name is Wayne Mims I'm a member of the Southern Nevada Model T Ford club and the and the Model T Ford Club of America been so for many many years I live here...

My cheap old speedster project so far. Someone in Tennessee has been prodding me with a long stick and giving me these goofy ideas.
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Found this on youtube
check it out, Bob

I have a set of 30 x 3 1/3 tires on my '23 touring. They aren't new, but decent enough drivers with minimal checking, etc. Do any of the commercial tire 'dressing' or 'shine' chemical provide any real protection? Help to preserve the tires? Or is it all Voodoo ?? Thnx, d

I found in my stash,2 26-7 fuel tanks. 1 is kinda crappy inside,the other clean as a pin inside but it has a couple rust spots from the outside in that I would need to weld up. I am going to try to send my little camera on a wire down in it this weekend and make sure it is as nice inside out of sight as it is in sight.
IF it needs cleaning and...

My car had an after market switch cut into the firewall. Someone cut a 2” x 2” hole out of the firewall completely removing the original hole. I’ve plugged the big hole but now need to bore the correct hole for the original switch.

Can someone tell me what size hole to cut and it’s location?

Thanks

Jeff

We have decided to pull the plug on the Jamboree this year since eight people where making it happen but we are not a club. We all belong to different clubs but it would not be sanctioned from MTFCA or MTFCI if any restriction are on in the state of Ohio. June , July will be to late to make arrangements. We thought about just having a driving tour...

Just found this old advertising piece and thought it was too neat not to share.

I have a few gas gauge sticks and a couple petcock wrenches, but never seen something that combines the two!

Does anyone know if a 1925 Roadster Top will fit a 1926 Roadster? I am looking at a 1925 top but I have a 1926

Well, I'm finished with what I can do here at home on my project; now I await delivery of my repaired touring body by Ray Wells with a brand new leather interior by Ernie Romano. I sure can't wait to start the assembly!

Today is my youngest grand daughters birthday. I had many chores to get done today as she had a small party last weekend. So I went about getting things done and had a meeting after noon with a customer. My grand daughter called from dads phone and wanted me to take them for icecream in the big green truck for her birthday. I told here I hadn't...

I was checking the water in my 6 volt battery. I placed one of the screw-off caps somewhere and for the life of me can’t find it after searching, searching, and more searching. So, now I’m tired of looking and just want to buy a new cap. My local auto store looked strangely at me and even questioned putting water in a battery - geez!

I looked...

I am missing the bolt that holds the Gas Tank Overflow Pipe in place. It is the straight bolt that is part of the 2921 set in Lang's catalog. It is located in a place that is awkward to get at to gauge the diameter and TPI. It looks like a bolt with the head cut off and inserted backwards would work. You can't see it without standing on your...

Our '21 Touring will be 99 years old tomorrow, the 28th. I hope the weather will be nice so we can go for a drive. :D

Just pondering the imponderable. Think of it ! Over fifteen million Model Ts rolling through almost one hundred and twelve years of history to date. Does anyone dare to estimate the number of miles they have traveled ? (So far ! We ain’t done yet !)

Even at the conservative annual average (20,000 miles) a person who has been driving for fifty...

Today the San Duego club had a Social Distancing Tour from the city out to Campo, a distance of about 45 miles each way. Along the way we climbed to about 4000 feet just outside Pine Valley. We had ten Model Ts on the run and one Hudson.
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In Campo the choice was a Subway sandwich or Mexican take out. All...

I had a dream last night that I was driving my 15 runabout on a trip and parts started falling off.
I have so far just driven it around the block which is about a mile.
The dream ended when I realized that I had left my phone at home and woke up in a panic.
I am going to have to bite the bullet and drive it over the hill to Tucson.

I am trying to remove the rear wheels on my 1921 T coupe. One of the previous owners was a tool & die machinist. He was always trying to improve the way that parts fit. He had machined the tapered part of the axle & the inside part of the hub, they fit like a glove now. I have tried using my wheel puller with no success. Does anyone have any...

I drilled out the rivets of a 1912 steering gear box and now the hole is too big for the new rivets.

Is buying brazing rods is the answer to filling in the whole with brass and then re-drilling or simply put the small diameter rivet in and fill around it?

Never did this before. Will a home propane torch be hot enough to melt the brass and fill...

Yep just a book i enjoy from time to time but i enjoy Rob s post about early racing more!! :D Bud.

Are 13-14-15 Roadster Top Irons the same? Thanks Dan

For those few folks who didn't get one the first time around but may still want one: the mat manufacturer has just told me that we can get a total of 3 or 4 more good mats at the most from our mold. If additional pours beyond that number are attempted there will be quality issues. So here is the absolutely final call. As soon as we get those 3 or...