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I discovered when I removed my timing cover that the engine in my ’26 has a fiber timing gear. While its teeth show little wear, I really don’t want to use it since I have a generator. I have seen enough ugly photos in past threads of destroyed fiber gears. At least my crankshaft gear looks new. I would like to read your opinions on the gears that...

Just finished the rearend on my 4- dr. Put the 4 to 1 gears in and it made a big difference. I put the z head on last year so this should make a whole better performance in the hills. When the rain is over I will go for a drive in the hills. You all have a good day. Clyde.

I have an old aftermarket Flivver brand water pump. Does anyone know what the original color was for this brand of water pump? The pump I have has remnants of green paint like Model A engine green, but it may not be the original color. Thanks for your help. Richard

Congrats to Tim Wrenn for 3rd place Pre-1920 in the Gilmore Museum's Virtual Car Show!

You can click on the Award Winners or see the entrants by year categories in the black banner at the top.

Round 2 Overflow Parking is now open for People's Choice Awards
To vote, hover over the photo and click on the heart.

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Is it possible to buy wood plans made by him? I understand he passed away, but thought I read that his family was still selling his plans.

Among the many pieces and parts that came with my wife's '27, was a set of what looks like new body blocks.
Does anyone have some pictures of what body blocks go where?
The hood does not quite line up and the front of the body needs to come up every so slight.
I don't see any adjustment. Am I missing something?
I will get a picture of the body...

Some nice detail photos on the Missouri DOT flickr site.

Previously, a forum member in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area named a radiator shop that could and would install a modern flat tube core in a T radiator. I know a shop in the Houston area that can do it, but now I live in San Antonio, so a shop recommendation in San Antonio, Austin, or even Dallas/Ft. Worth would be appreciated.

Hi,

I opened the transmission last week-end on my 1913-14 car... And I found something I never saw before but hearing about it in couple post on MTFCA forum.
Is it a Jack Rabbit Clutch disc set? Also discs suposed to be placed alternately with 9 original clutch large discs as I know. But on my transmission they are not be placed alternately...

I have decided to use kevlar linings. Is this band too pitted to use. I was originally going to polish it.

John

I'm in the process of restoring a 1926 Coupe and all the top (roof) wood is missing. I'm wondering if anyone has a drawing showing the layout and dimensions. Any help would be appreciated.

What size bolt is used to hold the hogshead onto the engine pan? I think it's a 3/8-24 but not sure how long they are supposed to be - thanks!

I've had both front tires off and back on the wheels on the front of our '21Touring at least once each, maybe twice on one. I found that Go-Jo hand cleaner worked very well for mounting lube. I'm now dealing with at least one rear, maybe both. I wonder if the hand cleaner would work too well on rear wheels/tires causing the tires to possibly slip...

I have a cylinder head I removed from a '23 engine a while back - don't have the car anymore, so don't have the serial #. Wondering who, when, why was it cast without the beloved Ford script on top? Love that big Ford script bling looking at you when you open the hood! Any ideas??

So in Ron’s drawing below, C= some value between .025-.040? Just pick one?

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My Ranch Car, which is mainly used for off-roading here in the woods of South Jersey, has standard gearing in the rear. I’d like to gear it down some and don’t have another Ruckstell on hand that I can throw in there. How do you achieve a 4:1 ratio and does anyone have have a set to sell me?

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I bought a parking brake lever extender from Tim Morsher recently and just wanted to tell the forum how satisfied I am with it. The device is a duplicate of one made back in the day so it is a good fit for a Model T. It makes it very easy to engage and disengage high gear as well as to apply the parking brake. I don't find it interfering with my...

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Got the new Snyders 2020 the other day and noticed the 21 American classic radials available, wondering if any one here is currently running them on their T. If you are how were they to get on your rim and the overall ride quality, @ some point I have to remove the Sears Allstates :lol:

Any input would be great.

it pays ,when you get a chance to do some rummageing , to look in every nook where there might be something put there to keep it safe, well i got a chance to go through a old shed in RI, found lots of goodies,and tucked up over head wrap'd. in a folder was a book and pictures, one of witch is this 1915 ford, they are 8x10 others are a race down...

I purchased some parts for my T and have a few parts left over including these brackets. Trying to identify them any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Anyone else have a problem with tbay today going from one page to the next page of Model T items. I get to the bottom of the page, 50 items and there are no pages to go to next.

What are the the differences between 26 and 27

I’m loving the new coloured photo and index this morning.
What a great improvement! Thanks to all responsible 😀👍
Alan in Western Australia

still learning ,i heard long ago if you lived in hilly country, the dealer would put lower gearing in the rear end, just one of those thing ive wonder'd about over the years, how many gear sets available for the t, i know my 21 likes to scamper down the road at 30 mph, and it takes a good hill to have to shift.

After installing my engine with repairs completed I discovered a good size oil leak from the area of the Bendix cover. I looked around and found the old gasket in my discard pile... I couldn't have installed the cover without a gasket, could I? with a quick glance I could confirm that I used a new gasket from my gasket set purchase.

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Been a long time since I took it apart, rough times this winter, but back at it ! ;)

Took the u-joint off and slid the shaft out, cut the pinion sleeve off and ready for the modern bearings.

Basically ready for the gear to finish up the driveshaft assembly.
Time for some cleanup and see if I have some brake linings.

Look at the Announcements and I give you a link to a very helpful YouTube video.
Announcements live at the very top of the forum.
Get used to looking there when you visit the Forums, as Announcements live there until admins take them down.

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ok, I've watched literally DOZENs of YouTube videos on how to set this up. Most are way too complicated.

But... I got lucky - this one is about the best there is. It's clear, concise and she explains everything Sloooowly and clearly. It assumes you're on a PC running Windows. It would be about the same install process on a Mac, even easier,...

Hi There guys . can I have some help I have a 1925 ford model t with a van body on it , I have a model NH Carb fitted to the model t van , it seams to be a bit slow and down on power .. can I ask what is the best cab to fit to the engine . I have a Kingston model L ,,,,and I have stromberg also I have a Holley . I'm looking for info witch is the...

A good spring cleaning/reorganizing for my garage is way overdue. I need to make a place for everything and put everything in it's place. I've had a spare flywheel and magneto for quite some time,as well as a transmission shaft. I think the smart thing to do would be to build a HCCT. I've looked at a few pics and picked out a couple that I really...

After 13 months of work, I finished the frame up restoration on our 1915 runabout today! I can't say that I did it all myself. Mike Bender rebuilt the engine and rear axle, Stutzman did the wheels, and Erik Larson rebuilt the coils and Classtique made the upholstery and top kit. It was a fun project and I learned a lot of new skills. I am also...

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Does anyone know the background to Model T engines with no Ford script? I have two of these, one has a 1917 casting date , the other is 1919 with a Canada serial number. These were in Canadian made cars sold in New Zealand.

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We are very pleased to announce the launch of our fresh, updated MTFCA and Museum website. This has been on our 'wish list' for several years. It's exciting to see it come online Saturday, April 18 at approximately 9:00 am EST!

Thanks go to the MTFCA Board Directors, who approved the website project. Tony...

Gentlemen,

Recent events created a lot of extra time at home and served as an impetus to finally get the 13T assembled and running. A lot of progress has been made finding parts in boxes and, piece by piece, getting the 13T together. Shame it has taken so long but it is getting close to the finish line.

I’ve begun reviewing old forum threads to...

New to the forum but have been reading it since acquiring a 26 runabout last summer (2019). First thing I did when I got it home was drain the oil. A brass screw head came out with the oil. Not knowing anything yet, I assumed it was just a piece left over from previous repairs. Went about getting it up and running and drove it around a bit. One...

I am having what I believe is excessive forward and backward rocking, when I use the transmission brake. The harder the stop, the worse the rocking. Initially I thought this might be transmission issues, as I had just' rebuilt the rear end and drive tube. After thinking it through, and manually rocking the car back and forth with the transmission...

Thanks to contributions from Mark Herdman, Bob Trevan and Andrew Brand, John Williams and others from “down under,” we keep piecing together more information about this New Zealand Ford Six (Model K) converted to a speedster. First, Andrew just sent this photo of the New Zealand speedster:

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Prior to...

After much consideration, we have decided to cancel Homecoming at the Model T Museum scheduled for June 6.

This is certainly a disappointment as we had great speakers and demonstrations lined up, swap meet, car show, and many fun, new activities. However, we believe it is the wise thing to do at this time. Without knowing how things will unfold...

How do you remove steering case brass rivets?

I drilled out the quadrant rivets but when I tried to bang out the brass case rivets they did not budge. And I am afraid of ruining it.

I want to replace the steel levers with brass levers.

Thank you for your help!

Do one of you know , where I can buy the triple Gear bushings # 3314- 1/2 BQ Best Quality .
At most of the venders they are on backorder .
Thanks for your answer .
Toon

My '27 touring has a board under the rear seat. It not attached, just inserted into both sides.
It was taken out about a year ago to give way for a little more storage. To my best conclusion this board is not really needed.
Like everything else on the T. Henry put it there for a reason. It might not be apparent at first. But there always seems to...

A few months ago I was in Colorado and bought some powdered hand cleaner in a little local mercantile store in La Veta. Turns out the stuff is the best cleaner I’ve ever used, puts a serious scrub on the kind of 100 year old grime we frequently get from our hobby! I apologize if this type of post is verboten here, and I have no stake in the...

Hello all
Does someone know what this is, a frend of my found it in the ground in a field here in holland some time ago
It is from lead
Greets Bert

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I have a 1927 t fordor i know carper is correct but this car will be a driver so I would rather use mats I know they show none are made and was wondering if anyone had any ideas that could possibly work.

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I do not think we need them anymore. Thank you.

I determined that my original cast aluminum magnet spools were damaged by my last effort at leveling (that means I was over zealous with my hammer after the last engine rebuild). I am now setting up my magnets on my flywheel and am trying an alternate method.

I do not have a KW magnet setting tool. Erik kindly offered the loan of his tool. That...

I bought this kit about 3 years ago and am just getting around to installing. When trying to install the contact screw for the Battery and mag connection I realized that the contact screw heads were to big to fit in the recess on the back panel. The screws for the 8 other contacts work fine. I might be doing something wrong. I am installing this...

My name is Mike, and sometime in my misspent youth, probably in the '70's, I was walking around Hershey and noticed an unrestored Model T for sale. Now, maybe it was because I have a picture of my grandmother at age 12 driving a Model T around her parents' farm in Indiana, before drivers licenses existed. Maybe it was because that same...

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Edsel sure made things simple. Here is a KR Wilson HCCT , model A Ford style. I think I bought this off the for-sale page here, and think it’s pretty neat. I will try it out soon. If anyone knows what the leads look like, I’d love to see them. 110BB382-C847-4C2E-95D9-854FB5191E06.jpeg D96E28B0-AEF3-4013-9075-D5A1F0810DAD.jpeg...

I found this in my oli screen...scary...any thoughts? thanks rl DSCN2616.JPG DSCN2615.JPG

Can someone give me the eye to eye dimension for a 21 front spring? Mine seems to have sagged some.

Here in Suffolk County, New York, the hottest hot-spot for the Covid-19 virus in the United States, I and most of my neighbors under the protective custody of voluntary house-arrest are just about climbing the draperies out of an odd combination of boredom and anxiety—two paradoxical emotions which now seem to be close companions. Having exhausted...

I had a flat on the rear of our '21 Touring yesterday just as I got home with it. The rear tubes have rubber stems in them and the one that failed was because the stem broke off at the base. I removed the tube and put in a metal(brass) stem, like I have done earlier on both fronts. I used a bridge washer and it seems to be too much . The tire...

The latest sets of KW points I have received have excessive cushion spring gap, some as much as .0020 inch. Although I can manage to tune my coils correctly using my ECCT there is still a concern that erratic cushion spring bounce or flutter can occur. Apparently there was an article in the Jan - Feb 2018 issue of the Vintage Ford Magazine written...

From what I've read the correct speedometer head for my July '13 Touring would be a Stewart and Clark Model C.
Is the head marked Model C anywhere?

I've seen a number of the earlier Model 26 heads but have not seen a Model C up close.

Thank you,

Gene

Herewith is the version 2.3 of the Bolt chart updated 7 August 2023 . Hope it is of use and interest.

I have attached updates of 3 files:

1) EXCEL spreadsheet with the updated chart (first sheet) AND the original inputs (following sheets). The updated chart is the more accurate.

2) PDF Sorted by Part Number then 'Assembly Area'

3) PDF Sorted...

I'm trying to locate a guy who had a restoration shop in Albany, Texas up until about 5 years ago when he retired. He moved to Abilene, just a few blocks away from me and stopped by one day when he saw a T sticking out of my garage. We had a good visit but I can't for the life of me remember his name. Anyone have a clue? I want to get back in...

Hello,
Anyone have a lead on a rear seat frame assembly for an 18 touring (metal)?

Thank you
Kory

i need to know the drive shaft length for a cast iron warford it measures 16 inches long. thankes for the help. chris

Anyone in the Hill Country (I’m in Comfort-40 miles W of SA on IH10, and I’ll drive a couple hours!) have a KR Wilson magneto and flywheel gap gauge I can borrow for a couple days? I’ll come to you, and deliver it back in a day or two! Just finished recharging magnets, measuring spools and making sure magnets are N-S around the ring and I’d like...

Ford Used the Ford Vaporizer (AKA Holley Vaporizer) starting in late 1925 for some Model T cars and 1917 for Fordson tractors. By late 1926 they used them on all model T cars.

I have four of these carburetors plus more parts. I found that of four vaporizers two had the pictured hole and two did not. I know what this hole does but suspect you may...

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Im installing the radiator on the speedster project. It seems with my fan and other things a 27 inch belt is almost too shrot and a 28 inch fan belt is almost too long. The 27 inch will allow the fan to turn but the blades only clear the lower hose by about 1/8 inch. The 28 inch belt allows plenty of room for the fan but the belt just barely rubs...

I have a 26 coupe and want to adj the bands. A while ago 4-6 months a fellow told how measure the band adj by using the cams on the outside of the hogshead. Does anyone remember that thread? If so could you please let me know where to find it. Thanks

I need to make a trip for brother in law to Kansas city area and back to Tiffin Ohio with empty goose neck trailer in a couple days so if any one needs a something throwed on be glad to help out. 419-618-1025 Joe

A sheet of ply, old parts and 'enforced isolation' and the result is:

Now, how many parts can you name and date and give part numbers for and factory numbers? Some really easy and some, to be fair, unless you see the detail will be hard. As a hint, only the coils are the same, and 2 others are variants of the same part.

(These are mainly if not...

Im trying to post a video of the first engine start of the speedster project. Its a short video as I have no radiator on the car yet. After this video I even hand cranked the engine a couple times. The engine has a Rajo 4 valve setup, a Bosch front plate distributor setup, a cast iron dual exhaust feeding a Taylor loudspeaker muffler There is a...

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I am sorting boxes of T nuts and bolts. There are LOTS of different sizes and types. I did not really appreciate the differences until I have been sorting. Engine, trans, axle, diff, starter, gen, - the list continues - all tossed in boxes as cars were dismantled.

Some...

Our annual Model T & A swap meet for Saturday April 18, Kenyon, Mn.has been postponed due to the virus. It will be held at a later date. Thanks, Bob Peterson.

At one time, the transmission simulator on this site showed how the T transmission worked internally with various combinations of pedals engaged. I have not been able to get it to work now. Is it still supported?

It may be something simple but I have not been successful. I remember the site being very informative.

Thanks.

I have a new brake drum. The step between the drum and the drive plate is about .015”. I am concerned that this might wear or shred the lining. I was going to use NOS Scandinavian linings,but am having trouble finding them in good condition. My next choice is Kevlar, but I have read that they do not like to run on a brake drum with a step.
The...

Came accross these today. When they were given to me 60 years ago they were NOS. I put them in a box with other stuff in 1985.

Hey guys. So I've started assembling a 27 roadster gowjob/speedster. The T motor is just about squared away. I'm looking at setting up steering soon. Pop has a couple T columns, but also some A columns. I'm playing with the idea of a 30s Ford steering column to give a less sensitive steering for speedster speeds. Can one use an A column? I believe...

I want thank Beth and Mike Vaughn for their book review of Me & The Model T in this issue of the Vintage Ford. I just received my copy from Amazon today. 20200414_181526.jpg

I can not find any maple or ash lumber within 60 miles of home. All we have is pine or red oak. Any suggestions of what else I might use.

How much front end toe in should there be on a 27 with wire wheels?

I am guessing the strap goes over the tank and through the bracket holes on a 1912 Torpedo roadster.

The strap does not fit over the tank. I believe by the worn threads that the straps are original. The tank might be a repo.

The one picture shows the strap lifted high over the tank. The other picture shows the end about an inch off the deck....

At Piquette and then Highland Park, of course, but what about the branch assembly plants? Did some of them (or all of them) make their own engines? The serial number records refer to blocks of numbers being sent to Manchester, Cork, and Long Island, so I gather those plants made engines. Did any of the others? I know that Ford Canada made engines...

I need to make a pair of wooden hood shelves for a '16 but I don't know the dimensions. Can someone help me out? Thanks.

I have four rebuilt U&J carbs to test run and am looking for advice on the initial adjustment setting. I've heard everything from 3/4 turns to 3 full turns.Can anyone who has run these carbs narrow down these numbers? Thanks : Bruce

I cannot find info on this. I believe I’ve seen both styles of early horn buttons. 1916-17 ? How about some expert advice? ECCC22A3-15EB-47D8-9A88-8DB6453E7457.jpeg

All:

I've created a Youtube channel for the Midwest Chapter of the MTFCI for the uploading of old home movies taken by chapter members. The first batch of videos is now complete and includes one short reel of a 1955 parade, and several club events form 1960, including the annual International tour.

You can find the videos at the following link....

This looks to be a 1923 to 1925 one man roadster top. I will be posting it for sale but I don’t want to ID it wrong. Looks like it has only had one top on it.

I am wanting to make a set of gage rods for checking the alignment of the front axle to the spindle and perch bores. I am thinking, make a set of cones to fit 1/2 ground rod into the perch bores. Then on the spindle bores 1/2 ground rod slipping through the top hole and machining a step, or taper to fit into the threaded hole on the bottom. How...

I know the black cars officially started with the 1917 Model year but I wonder, were any 1916 model year cars built with the '17 style radiator and hood instead of brass? I know that items from earlier production often appear on later cars (being used up) but did it ever go the other way?

First, allow me to say how proud I am that my eldest son has caught the bug and has bought his first T! He's 20 and saved up the money to purchase this original finish, original interior 1926 Tudor form an elderly gent here in Michigan. Unfortunately, the old fellow had someone remove the mag coil and installed a VW distributor. Now my son is...

For those from Pennsylvania or who collect Pennsylvania Vehicle Registration Plates, or who want to use a period registration plate, this may be of interest.

I often see publications such as the Antique Automobile Magazine of the Model T Ford Forum carrying letters from those wishing to find a long lost family automobile. Or those who have...

I m thinking about doing a run of these?
NO I don’t have a cost yet!!
If you have any interest let me know

You experienced guys might know this already.

It is very frustrating sand blasting in a booth that is very foggy, even with two lights in the upper rear corner. Today an idea came to me to blast with one hand and hold a flashlight on the metal with the other hand. And what a great difference that made.

I still have to look through the beveled...

Back on the Forum of 2018, there was a topic titled Depression era T things
What have you got that's odd and useful even today??
Stay in safe and healthy!!