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Thanks for the pictures Bob

Hand shaping on upper rear corners

Thanks Allan. I have 12 matching lugs that are on the car but one rim is a Hayes with fixed lugs. The spare is a Kelsey rim and I want to start using it in place of the Hayes so I just need 4 more matching lugs. Hopefully the ones I have will match. If not there's always Hershey! My problem is that I can't access the car to make sure I have what I...

We converted the acetylene lights on our 1913 T to halogen a few years ago. Sockets and bulbs were purchased off of the internet at very reasonable prices. We removed the original burners and made socket holders on the lathe from brass. The socket is 3/4 of an inch in diameter and the socket holders are threaded on the bottom end and screw onto...

I checked the one I assumed was aluminium. If it is zinc, as some have suggested from documentation, it is not simply polished. It is nickel plated. That plating is pitted like plating on diecast door handles etc. Otherwise it is just like all the other Canadian hubcaps, including the random letter embossed under the Ford script.

Allan from down...

I began looking for the correct Maxwell Carb when Mr. James Maxwell of Wichita KS advised me the NH was designed for a 4 cylinder 20 HP engine and won’t work at all speeds on a 2 cylinder 12 HP engine. He was right! However, I don’t even know what a “factory air charge heater” is and am very satisfied with the original Maxwell Carb. I did remove...

Come on guys, it would be a fantastic setup for someone to impress your friends and have some more power. Frank

The Buick looks like a Model D45. These cars had a 115-inch wheelbase and were powered by a six-cylinder engine that displaced 225 cubic-inches and produced 45 horsepower.

Since you posted your mag ring it does look like the insulation is hard and brittle which means age and heat has caught up with it.
Sort of like a radiator question. Should I try to repair an original that ‘looks’ good or buy a new one and be satisfied for sure.
Replacing a radiator is easy compared to replacing a mag ring that didn’t last....

Most new top boots I've seen have no welt top or bottom. If you will kindly post a picture of what Mike makes for you, I'd like to see it. You may wish to supply Mike with the correct fasteners too, as the modern ones just don't look the same.

I've gotten most of the frame on now I notice there is about an1/8 gap between the top of the metal body and the underside of the frame I believe the rabbet was cut to deep. Is that going to cause a problem when I install the roof covering and the beading?

Has anyone tried using the thrust washer kit to take up the end play? I was thinking that might be a way to get rid of the excess play if the pin hole is worn in an egg shape.

Steve, the worst part about that is the crater looks like it would be a dodgy proposal to fit a replacement original metal stem. There's not a lot of rubber left to clamp on.
Allan from down under.

Hal is on the right track. If the bead he asks about is present, then it would be reasonable to think the whole rear end assembly is early TT in spite of the fact that it's a '26 truck. It's also possible that the bead is not present indicating a later Ford (right side) rear end but the Ruckstell (Hall-Scott) side is an early one added at some...

Wayne, I thought you had made a typo in infested and meant invested.
Allan from down under.

Coupe or roaster ive been on hunt for a year for roaster

I would not be surprised.
The plan is to replace the wood.

Bill, that original Ford puller has a 5-Z-1172 number on it, but it is hard to see.

GEE-WIZ JIM, how did you know that so quickly? (Personal joke, please ignore me)

That’s a normal looking “Pigs Head” to us Aussies!
Alan

Has anyone posted the amount of compression (measured in lbs) that the Z head produces or the amount of compression that the Prus head produces.? Just wondering.

Continuing the discussion on radiator aprons-------
The first aprons, T-3977, were on the 1924 and 1925 models when Ford added the skirt on the front of the fenders.
Then in 1925, Ford offered an accessory nickel plated apron, T-3977-B, to go along with nickel plated radiator shells and headlight rims to dress up the 1925 models.
The apron for the...

Someone mentioned earlier that their 13 did not have a bead at the bottom of the rear panel, I looked at my 13 Canadian touring with an all original Fischer body, and it sure does! It still has the factory leather, so it hasn't been changed. Maybe its a Canada thing?
Best
Jeff

Thanks for the replys George and RojaRacer. I had forgot about thread direction. I did have T Haven find a passenger side spindle, bearing and nut. Seems that this TT trucks rt spindle was replaced years ago with a 26-27 left side spindle(notice right hand threads). This explains why the threads are wore down.
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If it’s actually brass .. polish the brass first. Then make a paste of silver nitrate, calcium carbonate and either potassium cyanide or sodium thiosulfate. Rub this onto the brass and it will deposit pure silver.

I checked the adjusting bolt and it’s tight. So tomorrow’s job it’s off with the fan :D

As the second restorer, you should place your card with your name and the date in with it. A thrill for the next guy to restore it to find in a hundred years. ;)

I can't help thinking what a waste of an Indian motorcycle . But then that's what I think every time I see a cut down T, or tractor conversion, or speedster. ;)

If all were kept then they wouldn’t be special today.

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This one was free. It matches my Son's roadster and my Tudor perfectly.

I'd like to find one that looks just like that for my weathered 24. I see them like that on eBay but those folks must think they have something personally used by Abraham Lincoln based on the prices they're asking. I'm more interested in something that someone...

I needed to remove the motor some years back and had a heck of a time. After some four hours of struggle I called a friend of mine to get ideas as to why I cannot pull the motor from the frame. While we were talking as to did you disconnect this or that, a friend of his wisiting said out loud, “ did you disconnect the wishbone? “ . Frank

I had...

Great post, Thank you. I enjoyed it very much. He did a lot of work to that old rifle. I'm not sure if I would ever fire it though. I would guess that old barrel is very weak. Your right, That welding job was amazing. Way past what I could ever do.

I could use 2 working burners..Thanks for asking

That was great. Thanks for posting .

Excellent!

good for you

I wish parts could be purchased. The front assembly irons always rust through on the curve just before where the wood is inserted.

Philip, Did you ever get this info about your crank seal that you requested??

He Bob,
My experience with this is that the rocky mountain brakes nearly not working when you go backwards.
I tighten the drumbrake bit by bit so it was just function in reserve, not more.
If you brake in forwards drive and you can still feel the rocky mountain brakes all seem to be correct.
Any way thats the way I did it, but maybe there is...

I watched a YouTube video on brass plating with a wire brush wheel. Very interesting, if you heat to a few hundred degrees, then use a powered brass wire wheel it transfers a brass coating to the steel.
Since the original brass plating on the early Ford's was very thin, this might be a great solution to an authentic looking job without having to...

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This '26 Chevy truck looks similar but who knows?

Back to the Thursday evening cruise-in at Kings Park. We had beautiful weather this week; sunshine and moderate temperatures—and lots of spectators!
Here's another nice family who made donations to the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

John,

Sent you an email through the forum.

Adam

Duncan and Fraser cured this problem on all the bodies they built using a twist bar. This is a piece of 2' X 1/8 flat mild steel screwed to the inside of the wooden door framework. To pull the bottom of the door inwards, the front end of the bar was screwed down and the bar was twisted so that the top edge at the back end touched the timber, but...

Chris,
I could spend the next year searching for specific details on specific tools that were offered in 1913 or 1914. I could spend hours upon hours going through old forum posts (I have already spent several hours) and filtering through debates on correct tools or filtering through details on tools for later cars, or earlier cars. Or I can just...

Great pics and video, Steve! Glad that the runabout is running well and it looks like it had plenty of period company at the show. :)

Measurements, Bob

Responded by email.

Trent

You would have to put them on something like YouTube and post the link in your post.

Key detail is the raised ‘collar’ or rim around the backside of the hub. That provides locking system for the special Ford hub bolts. Also most have a small depression in the casting on the backside of the center with Ford script.

Agree that $1500-$2K would be reasonable. It's a restoration project. Aftermarket homeycomb radiator, spaghetti wiring job, rust thru at the bottom of the body (might be bad wood underneath that), missing top irons, etc. The tires could be worthless if old and dry-rotted. Terry

George

with atmospheric pressure at 14.7, a stock 4:1 compression engine will never attain 60 psi. Matthew is in North Carolina, and unless he's on the coast, atmospheric pressure will be slightly lower still, as elevation rises...

What a beautifully preserved car. Original paint is my weakness. There's something magical about it.

A very interesting and unbiased comparison on YouTube by Project Farm compares most of the popular penetrating oils. It is well worth the time spent to see exactly how well your preferred oil really works. Spoiler alert: Liquid Wrench wins by a nose.

I'm going to try the peppermint oil and see how it works.

Good Luck,
Terry

Diet was right. Giving the band adjustment a half a turn tighter solved the issue.

Thanks for the help everyone.

Kevin Pharis: My dearly departed Dad, John Matthiesen, would have liked your joke, he was in the US Navy and in the Pacific from 42-45 for most of the war, recalled during Korea and ran a Navy ordnance reconditioning shop in Japan and was a State Side instructor at Treasure Island during the early part of Nam. I think that it would be Port of the...

This isn't rocket science, with the drive assembly straight through, eg high gear, the clutch fingers should be just clear of the push ring. You should be able to wiggle the fingers.

Dan, How much can you remove from the head surface is the amount of material available, Measure the thickness of the casting at the water holes. Measure as many places as you can as I have seen core shift were one end of an original head was less than 3/16 at the back and the front was more than 5/16 . I routinely cut them to 1/8 wall thickness at...

My theory about the acetone is that acetone is a material that is a airomatic { might be the wrong word] such as pb blaster or other penetrants that have minty fumes. this carries into the rust and caries the oil with it. The best penetrating oil is pure peppermint oil Try it some time.

mine came today

nothing in my prior reply requires the adjustment or replacement of any part

Sorry Scott, I must not have fully understood your first reply. I had taken it to mean that my coils weren’t particularly well matched and that just one or two was firing way too early causing the knock. Before the knock started my engine was running quite well on mag...

And I have a bunch of TT lower steering column-to-frame brackets too... Let’s get the price war started !! 😜 😂

Southern tip of Indiana

Steve,
Any new photos are good. We will take re submissions that didn't make it into the calendar or new photos of cars that have been in the calendar. The photos are coming fast already I can tell it is going to be a tough competition!

Les,
Only with the young lady’s permission I sent you her phone number in an email..george

The bodies seem to have the same kind of opening side windows i.e. split horizontally with hinges on the outside as the one at Mount Pleasant.could well be from the same builder.
Here's that one:

this:

Dwight,

I have a real nice one I was going to use on my 26 but sold the car and no longer need it. $300 takes it and I am not that far from you.

574-seven two seven-O725
Bob

Les

Sent a PM

Can't answer about OCF - for Motor Muster, the military vehicle group I belong to is allowed to camp in our area down by the Cotswald Cottage. I don't remember seeing anyone camping elsewhere in the village except for some folks staying in RV's parked in the lot behind the Eagle Tavern where they park some of the trailers. I'd suggest you call or...

Try Smith and Jones. They have a kit advertised for your coupe

Chris

You know, I don't normally do this, but will this time. Black T's just haven't moved in price in years, and given the slow decline in the dollar, may actually be a bit cheaper than years ago. That said, I don't even see a scuff on the pedals, and I do see an excellent paint job, interior and top. The wheels look to be in very good shape. If the...

My Dec. 1921 touring I have had since the 1970s is all original and has holes in both running boards that look as if there were step plates at one time.
Thankfully they are not on the car as I find that Ts with shiny step plates draw my eye to the plates and not to the overall look of the car. I love unadorned and original cars.

Norman clearly has done this before. No car body is as rigid as we like to think it is, a little shimming is always required to get things to fit right. Some naturally fit better than others, and some require a ton of work. Read Norman’s post a few times and be patient

Wow, What a great adventure. Thanks for your story and pictures!! Don't stop there

I used to haul heavy equipment in and out of Stibnite. Not for the faint of heart!
Owner of the company rode in one time with the job sup.
sat on the floor of the pickup for a lot of the drive.
Couldn't stand looking out the windows!

Oh, that looks so wonderful! Good people enjoying fantastic automobiles.

I sent you a pm

Ford put a built-in governor in all their sidevalve engines in the design of the inlet & exhaust. If you have a stock engine it will run out of breath before it can hurt itself, unless you let it get out of control down a hill, as has already been said.

Will this help ID it? It's pretty hard to pull it out.

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The inductor is only in play if you want to test the output of a car magneto.
It is not used for the normal testing of ignition coils.

Thank you Tim for the information. I was curious as to where these were used. Like you said, it is wiser to rebuild the part instead of a patch.
Thanks again
Don

I would not seal it. We have gone through several best things since canned beer products that eventually turned out to be the worst things since sliced bread . I always use non-ethanol gas and make sure I have a full tank when I won't be using the car for several months. I have never had a rust/other matter problem in forty years. Just my .02.

The rear hubs are 16 TPI.

Yes, and if you don’t already have a set of these -

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- you ought to get a set.

They can clean up about any external thread from about 8-32 TPI. They work like a file using any remaining thread grooves for alignment. Just work your way around the hub til you get it cleaned...

Well it turned out to be a simple case of the tube caught in between the clincher rim and the tire.When inflated to the correct pressure,it blew the tube and a small amount of the tube was sticking out from under the tire. The rim is in great shape,no sharp edges, tire in fine shape,so it got a new tube and a FLAP. It did not have a flap and I...

Thanks for posting Dave. Great pics.