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Those are for holding the springs into place. They go into corresponding holes in the seat frame.

Thanks Ken. My seat platform doesn’t have holes so I just took the legs off. I suspected that but without clear evidence I chose not to drill my restored seat platform. Next time I’ll do it right.

Thanks for all the responses, great video btw.

These vehicles are in Canada? Wonder if the auction is in US or Canadian dollars? Or that would work on bidding?

I think that guy owes me money. What's his name?

Paul, my Sampsons are not what I consider badly cracked and the rubber is still plyable supple.

Ed aka #4

Your tires have truly earned the name Samson.

Paul

It is most certainly a 1906 production Model N:
- buggy rail for the top fastens to tabs that come Thru the seat all the same height around the back of the body.
- clearly has the smaller 28x3 wheels rather than the 30x3 of the R.
- bail handle sidelites and horn on the steering column are consistent with N production only.
- buggy type step plate...

Here are a couple of more shots with a tape measure that might show the holes from engine side. In the 2ed shot you can see the slot that matches the angle of the adjusting rod.

Congratulations AJ!

Mike Francis
Classtique Upholstery

I own one of Ernie's upholstery jobs and my vote for aesthetics and authenticity would be Mark & Sherry Cameron. Sherry has sewn several Stynoski interiors and tops over the years. Below is Sherry's Roadster.

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Justin, just snug was apparently too snug if you tightened things. It is better to err on the not snug side, than to have the wheel binding, even a little bit. When you grip the wheel top and bottom, and wriggle it, you should feel just a smidgeon of play. It is hardly noticeable to the eye, but it can be felt.If it is still there when you have...

That lower leg possibly being a modified running board support bracket from a 20s frame.

Allan from down under.

Removing and reinstalling my 1915 engine didn't require any changes to the brackets or the firewall. You simply remove the four front body bolts, loosen the rear two, and set the front of the body up on 2 x 4 blocks.

I never seriously considered installing an electric starter, but my deteriorating physical condition hints that I should at least...

A propane torch may not be quite hot enough. But the flip side is that it likely cannot be too hot. Several people I have known did use propane torches for annealing brass. I have always used oxy-acetylene.
Bending cast brass is tricky. Too cold or not annealed, and it may quickly snap into two pieces. Too hot and it may quickly snap into two...

Thanks drew for the information

Bryant

To further Mark's comments, the hood would almost certainly have been black, like the rest of the chassis, leaving blue only on the body and turtledeck. This black hood, color body style was established among many car makers in the 1915 era for all body styles.

Ford adopted all black for open cars in 1915, so restricting the blue for closed car...

The larger Ace Hardware stores have a decent selection of hinges.
And no they aren’t exact reproductions but you might find some that are pretty close and alter or rebend them to look like the deck hinges.
There are several T parts that aren’t being reproduced and the deck hinges are not either.

Those 26-7 bolts superseded an earlier type with a slotted head, meaning a screwdriver was used to tension them. These later ones are far more satisfactory. At least, that's what I have found on our Canadian sourced cars.

Allan from down under.

It is better to have a smidgeon of play in the bearings rather than have them binding, even a little bit.

When setting the clearance I drive a wooden wedge between the axle and the spindle body to take any play in the spindle bushes out of the equation.
Then screw the bearing in until there is no play when you rock the wheel on the spindle,...

John K's reference to beryllium rang the bell. It is used in making beryllium steel, a strong, springy material.

Allan from down under.

Craig you’ve got a mighty big postal box ha, I’m going to give you a call on your adjustment of the seal. Take care my friend. Best John

2nd picture is great.

Here's an extra bracket I have - it's the thinner style.

Dan - Larry Smith could answer your question.

About 100 miles today and zero issues.

It was a buyers meet. Lots of good, uncommon parts/accessories. Cheap.
There was a real nice 17 touring with demountables for $8k
What floored me was an older restoration, 26 roadster. Very presentable driver, nice paint on wood wheels & extra set of wires, hubs, new tubes & tires asking $5.500. Surprised the hot rod guys didnt grab it either. It...

I used to be a regular contributor to the Vontage Ford but I stopped sending articles when the now editor (and the MTFCA board) insisted on me signing a release agreement giving the article over to the MTFCA for them to control.
I wrote it, I gave it to the club and the members, they get to read it and pass the information onto their chapter...

i don't know what style, but i gave the owner a link to this thread to comment. he may have to create a login

What makes your spring wrong? Number of leafs? Different arches? Wrong assembled height?

A rear spring in which all the leaf arches follow one another can simply be re-set to get the correct ride height if that is a problem. We have a master spring worker who waves his magic over whatever we take to him. The only problem is one must arrive at 6...

Thank you. That is what I heard. The one I have was registered to him last in 2008. I also found a picture of him driving it in front of the Model T Museum. Just seeing if I could get a background on this particular one.

Adam

The easiest and perhaps less costly, but surely the safest way to convert would be to sell the car with the small drums and buy a 26 or 27 with wire wheels. Problem solved! 8-)
Norm

You're funny George! Many times when the family came together they were shown with their cars. Just as with their house. Remember that it took a roll of film which had to be developed, so they would not go around snapping pictures and sending to friends immediately. They had to make negatives, and then print. Make additional prints to send by...

The only way to be sure which coil is going to which cylinder is to check the actual wire at the coil and again at the timer, you may have to peel back the loom a little to see the color of the wire due to dirt and fading. Regardless of what the wiring diagrams show, there is no telling what previous owners may have done over the years.

I don't know what to use, but I know what NOT to use. Don't use Armor-All on leather!

My T is a 1927, and all of the fender brace bolts use square nuts with no cotter pins. It is often wrongly assumed that 1926-7 are all the same. They are not. 1926 does not have a headlight bar, 1927 does.

Steve that’s a great point often overlooked. I’m not saying I’ve done this but a similar situation was happening on a friends T. His temporary solution was to loosen the rear axle to drop the driveshaft/tube out to inspect. He found 4th main was still decent, he used his shop light to look inside the tail shaft, after spraying brake cleaner in it...

Thanks John,
Now that I have a lathe with a large enough spindle hole I do stretch axles when they are out. I'm hoping that will not be needed as I'm just
adding the brakes back in when I install a set of wheels I re-spoked.
Craig.

Thank you Allan for the clarification.

Easy to remember, the ring gap goes with in line with the wrist pin then the next 180 with the pin and again another 180 for the oil, never have the gaps on the thrust sides of pistons.

Ben thank you so much for taking the point on this ambassadorship for fellow T folks!!!!

Mark has it right. Hugh and the other moderators do a pretty good job of keeping political stuff off the Model T pages. Personal, non-group pages are another story. There you will find all sorts of political content. Some of it is funny and clever, some of it is misinformation spread by folks who are good people but have no grasp of reality, and...

With modern fuels, I don't use a hot air pipe, but this filter from Lang's Works well and the filter part is washable and can be replaced. Some heat may be transferred from the hogs head, but probably not enough to make any difference.

Hi Randahl,
Great idea, I looked at that but don’t think it will work out for a low radiator application. Glad it worked out for you.
Craig.

July 17 is a long way from April !!
Allan from down under.

Photo #9 is flipped horizontally. The photographer developed it on paper with the negative reversed. Then someone wrote on it.
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As advised, shims should not be used between the ring gear and the carrier. It is better to use a shim behind one of the side thrust plates to shift the diff centre within the housing.
As advised, a 3:1 gearset will severely effect the braking and accelerating ability of all but the lightest of vehicles. A compromise option is the 39 tooth ring...

The better variety of these shock absorbers has an arm on BOTH sides of the spring.The load on that single arm variety is not applied evenly, and they will wear accordingly. They were a popular accessory offered by Duncan and Fraser in Adelaide here in South Australia, so I rebuilt the ones on my roadster, with bronze bushes and oilers. They are...

I too installed the disk brakes on my 26 Touring. Since I had that nifty switch that clamps on the frame (see above post) I decided to keep it and run the pressure switch in parallel. That way, if one of the switches fails, the other will still activate the light.....or if I lose pressure and push the pedal further to activate the original brake,...

Great picture

#3 looks to be the aftermath of quite a storm

converse sneakers my choice

the two bumper emblems I had looked original and they where painted back ground.

Thanks Jeff - impressive :-)

Vaseline was certainly around during the Model T era. Haven't I seen I seen a published recommendation to use it on a T? Ford? Fahnestock? Gasoline Alley?

Might be able to make them on a three D printer.

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Fascinating! I learned something new today, thank you! :)

THANKS for the insight ! MUCH appreciated ! and what I was thinking

Here’s a FP switch new that has not been installed
The switch is a 60 amp push button w/hex mounting nut and a rubber bulb seal ring.

Before I found this one I contacted Bird Haven several times, they had everything except the 60 amp push button switch. Supply issues….

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Chad - PM sent. Thanks, MikeG

How about your hand brake cross shaft? Maybe it needs a little oil.

Yep. I give it some oil from time to time as well. Thanks for the heads up everyone. I think since the last time I oiled that area I have noticed the squeal being gone and the lever and etc. moves much more freely.

I painted my entire engine with POR15 gloss black. It's tough as nails. Still looks great 7 years later. Just be careful not to get it on stuff you care about, it has incredible adhesion. And clean everything really well. I usef 2 cans of carb cleaner on the motor after I got it clean. Nothing like carb cleaner to eliminate oil (and everything...

Carrie and Jim... Do what you want but setting valves by piston position will equal out and give better engine performance no matter if it's a new cam or old cam. Good luck on what you choose.

Thank you for the quick help. That's exactly what I saw once and it helps me. I am very happy for the help and the contributions here in the forum.

Greetings from Switzerland

So if the plate has 3 holes in a triangle around the shaft hole then the steering wheel came with the Bauer Bakelite horn button if it does not have those 3 holes you could use an accessory nut horn button.

Thanks for finding adds of them back in the day!!

My car has been sitting for several days. I went out just now and tried to crank start it on magneto. Temperature about 84F, car in good condition, 10W30 synthetic oil, ECCT adjusted coils, WalMart gasoline. After turning the key to magneto, I set the spark just over 1/4 of the way down and the throttle about 1/3 of the way down carb adjustment 1...

Robert - I used one piece of lacing on my ‘26. As John mentioned above, I centered it under the clip, worked down each side, trimmed and tucked each end inside the shell. This is how I found the old one. Whether this is correct way or not, it seemed to work. My hood is far from a precision fit on my T, but the radiator, shell and hood are some of...

Good to hear and thanks for reporting back! Too often advice is given out and we never hear how things turn out.

couple more photos.

Shape helps ID too
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This chart identifies tool part numbers and the size of the bolts' head/nut
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A true resurrection! Congrats and welcome back!

So I’ve perused the catalog and the only definitive Fun Projects part I’ve found is the polymer plastic coil box rebuild kit and possibly a voltage regulator and brass magneto post.

Catalog says all are in stock.

The brake light kit is not mentioned.

The parts are not identified as to who originally produced them, but the mag post photo image...

Jack

I hope your car runs OK now that I see you are down to three coils. Hopefully that key works great now that the coil is kaput.

That photo does look like the one I used to have, but can no longer find.

I do not know where I got it or the other one similar that shows a side view that I can't find either.

Head gasket on backwards will cause two front cylinders to run cooler and back two to run hotter. Have seen it a few times.

I agree with you, this forum is full of nice people.

If anything, the comparisons show there is little difference, except where the dash to ---- is measured. Then the installation of the in-cowl gas tank and subsequent longer cowl reduce those measurements. These should have no real effect on the room for the driver.

That said, when I built my 1917 shooting brake, I was starting from scratch, so I...

Hard to be sure. But it appears to have the 1913 and earlier rear cross member.

Someone with the proper skills and programs could improve that image a lot. I used to have good programs and could do it myself. We paid good money for those programs being told that for the rest of our lives we would be able to manage, catalog, store, AND CLEAN UP...

Clastiques has a material that is almost a match for original, I used it on my 26 and will use it on my 12.

Didnt 25 roadster ONLY have a narrow tool tray behind the fuel tank?
The door hinges are 25.
Carb mixture/choke linkage could be correct for an early 25.
Later used the 26 style combination choke & mixture set up.

I went with Allan's method. Drilled two small holes thru the brass script, put the threaded rod thru with the cap nuts. Only difference is I added a washer under the cap nuts on the inside of the radiator to protect the fins. It's been 20 years and no problems.

23-25 are the same. 23 is the first year for the one man top. (US production)
The windshield/stands are slanted back. The top clamps to the top of these W/S stands.
26-7 irons have a curve to the body attaching pivot point.
All 3 bows are wood between the formed sheet metal side bows.
Your top will look like the 25 barn find

External braking will be substantially reduced when water, grease, mud, bugs, etc get on the linings. About all you can do is keep the brakes as clean and as dry as conditions will allow. Lightly dragging wet brakes for a few hundred feet before going down a steep grade can help dry them out. It's important to keep all brakes in top condition and...

Mark's extension will have the carb set waay further back than needed for the throttle arm to clear the manifold. The much bigger internal bore is also unwanted in this application. The suggested thick alloy plate and a gasket each side of it is all that is needed, plus a couple of longer bolts!

Allan from down under.

Wonderful old photos, thanks again for sharing.

The first picture really caught my attention, all the bling, little kids sitting on front bumper, maybe a rainy day, and somber faces. In July of 1918 WWI and the pandemic had to be on everyone's mind even during that celebration, the picture conveys a lot of emotion.

If any car people read this,...

It really distills down to this. It is a parking brake. To use it in an emergency dis-engages much better braking systems provided by the engine and the transmission.

Allan from down under.

Last photo. The corn is as high as an elephant's eye (1955 Oh What a Beautiful Morning from the musical Oklahoma!
The T appears to be an early 1917 with the tombstone rear light (window) in the top. Photo dated June 1917.

The fourth photo is interesting. I wonder what they are all doing? Ten cars, a few people walking around including a mom and...

Thanks Mark. It looks kinda short for a flywheel but maybe thats just the angle of the photos. The seller doesnt give any specs.